Noise Gates vs Noise Reduction - Which is Better?

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  • čas přidán 23. 07. 2024
  • Noisy recordings can be very frustrating and often I see people reaching for a 'noise gate' plugin to fix this problem. Unfortunately, this doesn't often give the results you want.
    In this video, I hope to clear up some confusion about noise gates and noise reduction. It seems many people think that noise gates reduce the noise in recordings but this simply isn't the case. Learn how to reduce and remove noise to improve your recordings with this simple technique :)
    Noise Reduction video: • How to Remove Noise fr...
    The software I am using in this video is called Izotope RX 7, however this is purely to show the waveforms and background noise.
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  • @marsnwalker4271
    @marsnwalker4271 Před 4 lety +144

    I am not lying but I was suffering with noise when I recorded audio today for the first time and this man just made a tutorial at the perfect time. I cannot tell how thankful I am 🙏🙏

    • @laurabrown2899
      @laurabrown2899 Před 3 lety

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    • @theexile1155
      @theexile1155 Před 3 lety +1

      You were predestined to be different(Romans 8:29), he who has an ear to hear, let him hear(Mark 4:9).
      HALLELUYAH!(PRAISE YE YAH!)

    • @biggoals3410
      @biggoals3410 Před 3 lety

      God is good

    • @korexdeejay95
      @korexdeejay95 Před 2 lety +1

      i swear!!!!
      same here bro
      i was trying to download a free noise gate
      then this heavenly sent tutorial came up .....

  • @aloekim796
    @aloekim796 Před 4 lety +13

    Man, you are truly a king taking care of his people. I can't thank you enough for all of your work in these CZcams channel. Keep it up. Again, I'm truly truly truly grateful. Thanks

  • @AlecKinnear
    @AlecKinnear Před 3 lety +3

    Wow, an audio guy who actually mikes himself properly and then treats his own voice well before pressing publish. Brilliant - I've just come from two or three REALLY noisy tutorials about how to reduce noise. The explanation of noise gates is incredibly useful. Great for live, not much use in the studio. Thank you Michael.
    Uh-oh, clipping an distortion around 4:40.

  • @SteveWatsonMusic
    @SteveWatsonMusic Před 3 lety

    Extremely helpful and clear, Michael. Thank you for all of the insights you share on this channel!

  • @glennfordsolinap8606
    @glennfordsolinap8606 Před 4 lety

    yeeeeeeesssss, the thing I'm looking for the most, I've recently tried recording vocals and as i listen to it, im really hearing some sort of white noise and this just clarifies everything, thanks for this video, really appreciate it

  • @mugflub
    @mugflub Před 4 lety +4

    Your tutorials really are some of the best. Thanks so much! This really helps.

  • @cadbeatz7189
    @cadbeatz7189 Před 4 lety +24

    Every time I watch ur videos Michael, I'm lost, untill that "aha!" moment apears. Thanks for yet another super helpful video, i really appreciate your help! - I would love to see you doing a beat some time. Would be awesome with a "In The Mix, producing a beat" video. Wish you the best, stay at it buddy! 🙏😁

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  Před 4 lety +6

      Thank you. That "aha" moment is why I do this! Do let me know if you think anything could be improved or made more clear :)

  • @junejohnson8409
    @junejohnson8409 Před 4 lety +8

    I've also used noise gates occasionally for if I have a sample that's really transient heavy like a drum loop, but either has too much reverb or the wrong kind of reverb baked into the sample. I'll set the threshold just above the reverb tail and give it a pretty gentle release, usually works pretty well at removing or at least shortening reverb.

  • @kokkouu
    @kokkouu Před 4 lety

    Your videos are so simple and easy to understand love it.

  • @briancohen2555
    @briancohen2555 Před 3 lety +2

    Great explanation of noise gate vs noise reduction. Obviously, you're focusing on music production, where noise gating is used to eliminate mic bleed and feedback. However, the gate is also extremely useful for voice over and podcast when there are long pauses between dialogue, breaths, and other noises. For example, audio books require room tone ceiling at -62 db, which is pretty much dead silence (unless you've got your earphones/buds fully cranked up). Good time for the noise gate to cut out everything until it hears your desired RMS, which you've determined in Audition or another DAW.

  • @whogotdubs
    @whogotdubs Před 4 lety +122

    Do you have control over your eyebrows or do they just move completely on their own accord

    • @robiaharefin6876
      @robiaharefin6876 Před 4 lety +50

      Waay too much dynamics on those eyebrows. He needs some heavy compression on those buggers...

    • @wooof8575
      @wooof8575 Před 4 lety +13

      I think he's still a bit awkward talking alone to a camera.
      Which is why the rest of his face looks so static while his eyebrows are to honest not to move.
      I'm probably wrong tho.

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  Před 4 lety +42

      Honestly I have no control over them when I talk! I usually talk a lot with my hands and eyebrows, I've been told.

    • @cowlegoblonski
      @cowlegoblonski Před 4 lety +28

      @@inthemix use a sidechain

    • @elninoperdido6548
      @elninoperdido6548 Před 4 lety +7

      the eyebrows control him

  • @peteryorck330
    @peteryorck330 Před 4 lety +1

    I love your tutorials, thank you so much! I would love it, if you would make tutorial about how you can hear and solve the problem of sounds clashing with eachother.

  • @Astronomater
    @Astronomater Před 4 lety +6

    RX is a godsend for wintertime when you have to keep working despite having the heat run in the studio.

  • @caenen6869
    @caenen6869 Před 4 lety

    Very nicely and concisely explained! Thank you!

  • @xnervemusic
    @xnervemusic Před 4 lety +1

    I use to apply noise gates whenever I used to record vocals 😂 thanks Mike for clearing this out!

  • @droz65
    @droz65 Před 4 lety

    Outstanding tutorial!!!!
    Deserves waaay more than just one thumbs up!! 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽...
    Only question is would it be prudent and beneficial to apply the noise reduction AND noise gate in order to produce a pretty almost FLAWLESS recording??

  • @asidtone6465
    @asidtone6465 Před 3 lety +1

    This made so much sense. I thought I was using my noise gate wrong when really I just need a denoise plugin

  • @DanielleBaylor
    @DanielleBaylor Před 3 lety

    I learned noise reduction first. I just tried using noise gate (saw it in another video) and couldn't understand why there was so much static and noise doing my voice. Thanks for this explanation!

  • @mauroloureiro1781
    @mauroloureiro1781 Před 2 lety

    Simple and precise. Thanks

  • @briankingart
    @briankingart Před 4 lety

    Crystal clear! TYVM, Michael.

  • @Rome1212ec
    @Rome1212ec Před 4 lety

    Great video bro,love it. Great help.Honestly.

  • @kociogvint8574
    @kociogvint8574 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much for this video, really great explanation!!

  • @BengtSkogvall
    @BengtSkogvall Před 4 lety +2

    Very well explained! Perhaps you could compare different noise reduction software in another video?

  • @moulimarur
    @moulimarur Před 2 lety

    excellent explanations. thanks. i am so glad you clarified when to use noise gate: i mostly record my instruments in the large empty room i have as my studio (which is NOY soundproofed, and is on a street with quite a bit of traffic: in Indian cities, that is the case pretty much as EVERYwhere!), and i was wondering why i was hearing myself so loud in the room (on a tin whistle at 1:00 am!) but the recording was so low! the imac’s mic and my lavalier mics were giving completely different results. i think it was because of my use of Noise Gate with a high threshold: mistaking precisely what you pointed out: it listens, and cuts off everything below a Level, and Boosts everything ELSE, regardless of the frequencies! since i was playing very low decibel, and low pitched notes on a BFlat TinWhistle (which by itself is very ‘airy’ literally AND figuratively), and long extended notes to get Clarity in microtones between BFlat and C! i finally see how the same pitch when i sing, is so differently recorded by the mics, and treated by ‘noise’ reduction/gate software. i guess there is no substitute to getting the recording at the BEST volume possible in the room, at which there is the least room resonance (which as a Baritone i use a lot in live performances). thanks a ton. it would really help if you could have some cations/labels. especially when you are pointing out subtleties like below 50 and 50-100. unfortunately for me, most of my voice falls in that category upto about 1600. with sinuses and humidity, this range is so difficult to record with any level of fidelity…

    • @moulimarur
      @moulimarur Před 2 lety

      i can help you with captions, labels, markups etc. so that it is easy to follow you (in that small square, with your hands cut off!) and figuring out your accent!, AND looking at tiny golden yellow speckles of dust appear and disappear magically in the ‘nosiy’ color range. as a Visual Designer and Calligrapher, your audio explanations are EASIER to understand, and apply, when i Add COLOR to tour aural explanations. i think this might help a lot of people who find working with tiny buttons and switches on their DAW, when they should really do this in analog at Recording and PreProduction time. i found that using a pair of Lavaliers, AND a Shotgun simultaneously, with a bluetooth/wired headphones attached mic, gives such clear recordings at such low volumes (like softly exhaling through a Fipple flute or Recorder. or even a Chanter of the BagPipes… and certainly my diatonic Blues harps!

  • @james2touchmuminkohbeats.21

    Any thing i am searching for on CZcams your channel have. I enjoyed it see you in the next video for now God bless you ♥️

  • @InterestingThingsCx
    @InterestingThingsCx Před rokem

    Very good explained. Thanks 💚

  • @SOMEONEElSEMusic
    @SOMEONEElSEMusic Před 4 lety +1

    So much informational. Love your videos and following your tips for r while now.
    Love from Bangladesh

  • @fredhills127
    @fredhills127 Před 4 lety

    Great !!! I had this doubt exactly today, trying to use noise gato for reduce hiss ... your videos are great !!! (Fred, from Brazil)

  • @Barncore
    @Barncore Před 4 lety

    Ok, now i'm gonna have to get RX7. Aaaaaand subscribed

  • @user-lt2rw5nr9s
    @user-lt2rw5nr9s Před 4 lety +6

    I like using this vintage reverb and delay, but when nothing is playing there is noise. It's practically infinitely silent, but if you normalize audio that is quiet it can pick up or if you use a spectrum visualizer it shows up. I use a noise gate at the end of those chains, but even after it's still there. Is there a noise gate out there that will mute audio completely not just turn it down a lot?

  • @Miguelvillaloboss
    @Miguelvillaloboss Před rokem

    incredibly helpful, thank you!

  • @toodopegoldrope
    @toodopegoldrope Před 3 lety

    Excellent job. Thanks brotha

  • @haystixxbeats9225
    @haystixxbeats9225 Před 4 lety

    WOW this is really nice. Learnt a lot from this

  • @ArtisDefiniition
    @ArtisDefiniition Před 4 lety

    Thanks again for the info Michael.

  • @mohamedraafat9018
    @mohamedraafat9018 Před 4 lety +1

    Man you're helping me alot, thank you. 🖤

  • @TexpatOTG
    @TexpatOTG Před 4 lety

    I use de-noise feature in Audacity to reduce background noise in dialog here in Saigon .. I never tried a noise gate before and was curious about their function. Thanks for the information, am sure it applies to dialog as well as music. Cheers.

  • @eddienewsshow
    @eddienewsshow Před 4 lety

    Cheers Michael - Very helpful.

  • @ShivanshDev
    @ShivanshDev Před 4 lety

    short informative and a useful video!

  • @the_burden7150
    @the_burden7150 Před 3 lety

    Broooo your vids are perfect I got a way better Idea of what I need to be doing now
    Keep them Coming!!

  • @LuchitoCarrera
    @LuchitoCarrera Před 4 lety +22

    Literally JUST thinking about this as I was about to record. Amazing lol

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  Před 4 lety +6

      Luckily your guitar work far outshines the noise!

  • @torbjrnlund903
    @torbjrnlund903 Před 4 lety

    Good explaining, thanks a lot.

  • @GonzaloAntonicelli
    @GonzaloAntonicelli Před 3 lety

    Your videos are just great.

  • @emilywright9695
    @emilywright9695 Před 3 lety

    Excellent video, thank you so much!

  • @jassimkh6528
    @jassimkh6528 Před 3 lety

    Hi Michael, thank u for everything you do, do you have a video for voice over mixing?

  • @heinrichsmit2
    @heinrichsmit2 Před 4 lety

    Hey Michael, really important question, do you perhaps know if there's a way we can do a volume compensation for compressors in fl studio without having to do it manually ourselves by ear? I saw a video where it's built in with Abelton but couldn't find anything like it for FL on youtube

  • @lolaston6893
    @lolaston6893 Před 3 lety

    thank you so much for sharing all this knowledge! Which noise reduction plugin would you recommend? thank you so much I am looking for one rn!

  • @olijomusic2481
    @olijomusic2481 Před 4 lety +7

    You made this video just at the right moment. I just bought a sound card today so that I can use an electret condenser mic I made few years ago. It sounds pretty good but there's a little bit too much noise.

    • @inthemix
      @inthemix  Před 4 lety +3

      Nice! Glad I could help :)

    • @AyushKumar-ov9el
      @AyushKumar-ov9el Před 4 lety

      You MADE a mic?

    • @olijomusic2481
      @olijomusic2481 Před 4 lety +3

      @@AyushKumar-ov9el Yes. Of course I did not make the capsule but I made the circuit and the enclosure.

    • @AyushKumar-ov9el
      @AyushKumar-ov9el Před 4 lety

      @@olijomusic2481 do you have an Instagram?

    • @AyushKumar-ov9el
      @AyushKumar-ov9el Před 4 lety

      @@olijomusic2481 would love to talk about this!

  • @Stuup1dTheProducer
    @Stuup1dTheProducer Před 3 lety

    Wow great vid!

  • @gonmeitingthuilung5574

    Awesome !!!! I learn alot .

  • @BigSmoak
    @BigSmoak Před 4 lety

    great video bro well said

  • @ZlakEdoras
    @ZlakEdoras Před 4 lety +2

    You noise gated yourself at 5:52 XD
    Really helpful video though, never thought noise gate would be useful for live shows :D

  • @rathor904
    @rathor904 Před 4 lety

    Yay a new video!!!!!!

  • @mnash3
    @mnash3 Před 3 lety

    Coooool vid! Thanks for the education!

  • @starscream2092
    @starscream2092 Před 4 lety +1

    Hello, i watched your tutorials and i was wondering if you plan on doing some sort of Horror creepy animal effects

  • @Flicklix
    @Flicklix Před 4 lety

    You sir, are an audio god!

  • @seyvess
    @seyvess Před 4 lety

    Love your videos

  • @lastpro6244
    @lastpro6244 Před 4 lety +1

    I really love you man 😢💜

  • @DreamOnRecord25
    @DreamOnRecord25 Před 4 lety

    great tutorial, I really want to try your method, but I'm not Using FL Studio, I believe the Edison Plugin only works on FL.
    can you make noise reduction tutorial using RX izotope or other universal plugin? thank u

  • @WeggaBusiness
    @WeggaBusiness Před 4 lety +1

    Very Impressive 👍👍👍

  • @lee_the_underground_producer

    Hey micheal how could i use distortion on my bass while its sidechained with the Kick without the uneeded fuzzy sound ? Also without it clipping ? Also with using buses

  • @warrencantero
    @warrencantero Před 4 lety

    Hi Mike.. do you use a denoiser feature on FL studio or just 3rd party? if you do ..which is better? thanks for the awesome videos. cheers mate.

  • @ivanorokkhito9727
    @ivanorokkhito9727 Před 3 lety

    Very helpful.

  • @tunelow
    @tunelow Před rokem

    nice! quik and clear)

  • @antoniusguntoro2052
    @antoniusguntoro2052 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for this

  • @redoemusic
    @redoemusic Před 4 lety

    Very interesting things🤔🤔 ,thank you 🤗🤗

  • @eris6119
    @eris6119 Před 4 lety

    Is there a way to do in Ableton live what you did in fl studio? With the noise profile tool to remove noise, like in the other video? Or have I missed something obvious 😳 newbie here. Also love your tutorials thanks for making them!

  • @snacxzy
    @snacxzy Před 4 lety

    Hello, do you utilize the denoiser’s envelope? Or mostly just stick with the flat line?

  • @vitaliistep
    @vitaliistep Před 3 lety

    Thanks man!

  • @arabian_guitarist
    @arabian_guitarist Před rokem

    Thank you so much! 🌹🌹

  • @iam-music
    @iam-music Před rokem

    Appreciate your vids...been mixing for 40 years but everyday is an opportunity to learn...which leads to my question...when using eg RX for removal...have you ever done a phase check? Ie like when everyone uses hp filtering and it clouds the upper harmonic phasing but no one talks about it?
    Might be helpful, especially for newbs to show a little history of gates eg on a console etc and how even basic tools like a gate did wonders on even eg 70s records when they first really hit the ground in a big way

  • @misterkerr7129
    @misterkerr7129 Před 2 lety

    Simple terms, like it, some videos just make my mind go like mush lol, thanks

  • @devanshazad5525
    @devanshazad5525 Před 4 lety

    You always bring useful content. Why don't you get into production companies

  • @bigyetee2592
    @bigyetee2592 Před 4 lety

    Hey Michael, awesome videos you post, I've learnt sooooo much from your channel, been here since 100k subs. I've wanted to know, if I have a channel where I remake instrumentals from a song and title it with the song name, will it be flagged by CZcams?

  • @mshl114
    @mshl114 Před 4 lety

    Hey Michael,
    I live in an apartment. I don't have a separate room for me. So I have some room noise. I recorded a vocal and tried some mixing but the noise was still there . Would it be advisable to use a dynamic mic instead of a condenser mic?

  • @cbspydoge
    @cbspydoge Před 4 lety

    Hello, In the Mix!

  • @Msgbeatsx
    @Msgbeatsx Před 4 lety

    thank you so much

  • @dankaifilms3272
    @dankaifilms3272 Před 3 lety

    VEry clear. thanks

  • @YannBula
    @YannBula Před 4 lety

    you should make an online course, like PML. Thing is I didn't buy theirs becuase it was too simple and more for begginers. I think your audience is more intermediate, and your videos have helped me far more. I'd pay for that intermediate course!

  • @trapptunezz4512
    @trapptunezz4512 Před 2 lety

    What do you think about universal Audio API Channel strip gate can I use it for tracking and still get good in your face emotion in my vocals ?

  • @wisdompyt
    @wisdompyt Před 4 lety

    How can i do it in logic pro 9?I tried but i failed especially on vocals.I love your videos

  • @southvalleynews8759
    @southvalleynews8759 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for this info (:

  • @irpacynot
    @irpacynot Před rokem

    Great, simple video. Toward the end there you seem to indicate that the noise will exist during the recording process, regardless. So, you're saying that noise reduction is something to be processed after recording, or can it be done during the recording process?

  • @codeage1
    @codeage1 Před 4 lety

    More, great video

  • @BabblePitch
    @BabblePitch Před 4 lety

    you are really underrated

  • @RedState420Esq
    @RedState420Esq Před 3 lety

    Would you say the juice isn’t worth the squeeze using a gate to reduce breath sounds? For my podcast, I’ve been applying the default Audacity noise reduction prior to importing to Fairlight for edits and adjustments. Solo podcast SM58 to Zoom Podtrak P4

  • @craigdaubbeats-rapinstrume9185

    You can de-noise pretty easily in audacity. Not sure if there's a way to do it in Edison or not. I usually just drag the audio into audacity, do it there then bring it back to FL.

  • @lucygodfrey141
    @lucygodfrey141 Před rokem

    So very nice

  • @voiceovercity
    @voiceovercity Před rokem

    How do I choose Noise Gate threshold and level reduction numbers if I am not trying to get rid of any noise necessarily but to set volume levels more even and make my compression and limiter effect apply easier. I am hearing noise gate makes those two much more better.

  • @theogiannmusic
    @theogiannmusic Před 4 lety +1

    will there be any production breakdowns (like the ones for miavono) or production tutorials ?

    • @theogiannmusic
      @theogiannmusic Před 4 lety +1

      i still love these types of videos of course

  • @applecrazy1
    @applecrazy1 Před 3 lety

    does using somthing like a NS1 or Accusonus on a vocal track ruin the vocal? is it similir to your way??

  • @Xelfiy
    @Xelfiy Před 2 lety

    so is there an easier or faster way to do the noise reduction method. i have a lot of tracks id have to do this to each one 1 by 1?

  • @MichaelW.1980
    @MichaelW.1980 Před 3 lety

    Most people have a really noisy room. Especially streamers either don't bother doing exstensive sound treatments on their room, or they simply can't do that, because they don't have a spare room to use for it. The same is true for most podcasters. This is the first issue you have to think about if talking about why people prefer noise gates nowadays.
    The second one is sound compression. Before i can come to what i mean, take my use case as an example. I am a hobbyist streamer, streaming from my home office. Two of the walls are covered with DVD / Blu-Ray Shelves, full of them. We have two tower PCs running in here, not even especially loud ones, but definitely audible on the microphone. With my dynamic big diaphragm microphone with a cardioid pickup pattern and the noise sources in the dead zones of the pattern, at a talking distance of ~2 inches (~5 cm) i can manage one of the following: Either, i set the gain on the interface, so my voice at normal speaking is at -10dB. Or i set the gain to have a normal speaking level of -18dB and turn it up in post to have -10dB once more, but with a bigger headroom for my voice. What ever choise I make, i end up with a noise floor of -60dB.
    Sadly, this is pretty much an ideal case. Most people don't want to start using their microphones correctly - that is: They want the microphone as far away as they can dare. But going for my use case as an example: Only going for 10 cm (or 4 inches) distance for the microphone, I get a noise floor of -50 dB with traffic noise from the outside going up to -46 dB. If i go for a distance of 20 cm to the microphone, the noise floor is elevated to a horrible -40dB And by experience of trying to help other streamers with their microphone sound, i know, this is a realistic use case. (not for me, but for enough other streamers)
    If I try to reduce noise that high, any free noise reduction VST plugin will brutally murder my voice. Which is to be expected, the way noise reduction works. And knowing the issues i have running noise reduction plugins in general inside of OBS or the Equalizer APO, I know, it is far from guaranteed, professionally usable plugins would even work in there. Also, they tend to add a significant ammount of delay to the sound, which is a major pain, if you want to monitor all of your streams sounds at the same time. You will probably end up getting stalled by the combined delay of all audio buffers in place, even if you find a noise reduction plugin, that gives you decent results under the circumstances explained.
    So why do you actually hear claims about noise gates being the better solution everywhere? Because most people end up using gates, as noise reduction software just doesn't give you acceptable results, quality-wise, unless you pay for something decent, and because of the software those plugins would be expected wo work with.

  • @musicislife704
    @musicislife704 Před 4 lety

    Familiar with serato sampler? How do i get fl to record notes and add midi to channel rack??

  • @1998Cebola
    @1998Cebola Před 3 lety

    Noise gates are also an exceptional creative tool, both as a "radnomiser" or to puropsefully create a sucking effect in the groove

  • @stephenpadley6684
    @stephenpadley6684 Před rokem

    Hi, I'm radioham listening to noisy signals coming in, can I use a rowing noise gate inline with my external speaker to cut out the noise on my radio.

  • @kcwonder
    @kcwonder Před 4 lety +1

    Bro this is PERFECT!! I've recently been uploading clips using noise gates instead of reduction. I'll be sure to use noise reduction from now on!!

  • @HoangLong-zc3ig
    @HoangLong-zc3ig Před 4 lety

    Thank you😍

  • @octavemusic6890
    @octavemusic6890 Před 4 lety

    Hi how to select right Plugins Or vst for producing music

  • @scpk2246
    @scpk2246 Před 3 lety

    Please make a tutorial on IZOTOPE RX noise removal - thanks

  • @IsaBellaschmusic
    @IsaBellaschmusic Před 4 lety

    You look like twilight omg thankyou, great tutorial 🤙