EQ or Compression First? Music Production Tutorial
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 21. 08. 2024
- EQ or compression first?
With the ability to use many plugins in whatever order we want, endless possibilities have been opened up! Unfortunately, this also causes some stress and worry that we are not using plugins in the right order. I think it's best to try and ask yourself what you want to achieve with the sound, what's the end goal? and then think about the best tools to get you there.
This is where I'm supposed to make an analogy about building a house and starting with the foundation first then the walls then the roof etc...but let's not waste any time :)
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This is where I'm supposed to make and analogy about building a house and starting with the foundation first then the walls then roof etc...but let's not waste any time :)
Another great video from you â€ïžđŻ
Great video great explanation âđđ
Great video if you havenât access to a compressor with side chain filter.
Thx FAMILY
Channel after channel of trying to learn this stuff. You are the only one that gives us a detailed WHY and not just a WHAT. I swear everyone elseâs content is just âdo this and youâll get thisâ and Iâd never really utilize it. Your channel is exactly what Iâve been looking for. Thank you so mucchhhhh
Best mastering chain:
1.soundgoodizer 2.soundgoodizer
3.soundgoodizer 4.soundgoodizer
Patcher with a LOT o' soundgoodizers
Sausage Fattener would like to have a word with you.
Exit Strategies Iâll let my right hand man, mixcentric, handle that
How about OTT? Ruins the sound pretty much the same way if you crank everything to much and remove midrange lol.
soundgoddizer overrated ott will win
3 years in. still just twisting knobs in compressors and hope for the best.
5 years and I do the exact same thing. Changing the knee knob like âooh what does this one doâ đ
@@chidzhustle3570 It's honestly the way to get the best results. Yes, there are some guidelines that may help you, but if it sounds proper, then who cares if you know what you've actually done with the knobs ;)
Get a drum track and run it into a compressor. Set threshold as high as possible, set ratio to max, set attack to minimum, set release to min, set make-up gain to 0. Start the drums rolling. Bring the threshold slowly all the way down and listen to what it does when it starts hitting the peaks and when it gets into the body of the sound. Leave the threshold low and slowly increase the attack. Listen how it lets more and more of the hits of the drums through. Dial back the attack and then slowly increase the release. Listen to how you can time it to the drum beat. Now experiment with less extreme settings.
The hope for the best part is so relatable đ
Mixing is and will always be your own taste bro
There are a lot of tutorials that explain the "basics". Then there are tutorials that explain really advanced concepts. This tutorial hits that hard-to-reach middle spot that most CZcams tutorial-makers dream of hitting. Great video
well said Nate, that made perfect sense to me.
Exactly
Stop on
That's it!
exactly
ive literally learned something from every video ive watched from you, what a lad.
Nice! Glad to be of help :)
me too, the man is a God send :)
I agree! Also I cancelled my netflix a little while back so now I guess I binge watch music production videos!!
Ahhh, Demon got me!
All Kinds you getting all kinds of gain
at this point you are probably tho only youtuber who i trust with teaching production. good techniques, very good teaching
check firewalk this guy is also a great producer
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@@libEluLLah Agreed. Simon Servida knows what he is talking about
Check busy works beats
He needs your trust thank you. đ
subtractive EQ+Compression+Additive EQ that is the best way working for me also for years
"As long as you got a vision in your head and you're following your ears, you'll be absolutely fine."
Really solid advice there and great video!
In 10 minutes you have taught me more about EQ and compression than most other videos over and hour long have done. Thanks so much.
Thank you, I'm so glad it helped. I might make a specific video about EQ and Compression
Really enjoyed this video. Very well thought out, and I love you visually demonstrated what you were doing with the NOVA to show the EQ/Compression effect.
This guys Chanel is the reason you donât need to go to university đđ
TBH
At some point, someone has to go to school for the real knowledge though. Not everyone can get a degree from CZcams.
You shouldn't limit your knowledge to just youtube
TheChosenOne Thatâs a very good point. I wasted at least 4 years watching people on CZcams who didnât really know what they were talking about and I developed those peoples bad habits. In the mix is definitely a good one to watch but I still recommend an actual good education over CZcams. Good info here but a lot of the time itâs bro science
@@matrixate I agree that a lot of what you're refering to as the "real knowledge" isn't totally accessible on CZcams, but that information IS out there on the internet if you know where to look.
Wow! Incredible value! Never thought about WHICH frequencys are triggering my compressor!
snap ;)
I subscribe to a lot of mixing channels, and I keep up with a lot of them rather densely, and I have to say - you're is easily the best in terms of useful information. I've been mixing and mastering now for about 15 years, and I learn from this channel rather frequently.
So compress everything equally and then use the Eq to pull up or down the frequencies you want to highlight....I knew I was on the right track... Good videođđŸ....
As others have commented, you have found a niche, exemplified by THIS video, where U show not only the why, the how and the what, but provide the âbecauseâ. At the root of this, your method of EQ/comp/EQ is really a subjective opinion, not that I disagree, but you had topped it off with the a healthy dose of âBecauseâ. You explained, and showed the facts in a pleasant, non-authoritarian manor.
Tho I already practice what you are teaching here regularly, I did it because my ears told me to and I understand how compression works. My point is, even tho none of this was new news for me, seeing the facts in your presentation has helped me visualize the processes in my head better than I already had.
Nice job mate & thank you!
Well put. Get out of my head! Cheers!
This is really helpful.. ive been doing EQ>Comp... now ill do EQ>Comp>EQ
I didnt know that a compression of the low end will make my highs reduced aswell!! This is a gamechanger! Thank you so much! đ
Seriously, I must give you mad props. Your videos are always to the point, there is a clear message, you use proper terms but often clarify them, you repeat the important stuff, you speak clearly in proper English, you show both yourself and the DAW and you don't just show how to do stuff, but also why. I've been using FL since version 6, but I was always too lazy to look for tutorials, mainly because I am impatient, but also because there is a lot of crap tutorials out there, and it's hard to look for new knowledge when you don't know what you are missing. I am clearly seeing now that watching any of your videos will not be a waste of time and I will always learn something, even though I'm experienced. Thanks for sharing!
Nice. Cheers!
That was about the best demostration of the effect of the EQ on the compressor input I've ever seen!
That said, that's where multiband compressors shine - or even better, the FIR compressor in the Reaper suite
You take care of each n every fine detail in mix... thanks for this.... nice topic to discuss
This dude is a life saver.
The most amazing thing is how well the original guitar track was played. That was flawless. Precise and crisp.
This is the first video I've found on here that hasn't confused the absolute shite out of me. Thank you! hit a major breakthrough in mixing my beats finally.
This guys mind and the way he articulates his thoughts and knowledge amazes me. Let alone how much he knows. Envy
This makes perfect sense, and I'll be experimenting with subtractive/compression/additive EQ on my mixes. Great tutorial. Thanks!
Your tutorials are excellent. You are a natural born teacher.
My goodness this is so helpful. Something I wouldn't normally think about
That part where you time yourself explaining EQ and compression is funny and enjoyable as an edit. I like how much care you put into these videos.
I better understand both compression and mixing as a whole after watching this
I've been using the TDR Nova for over 1 year. I always used the Threshold for specific frequencies but I didn't know it can actually compress ALLLLL frequencies at once! Damn! In Ableton, I always had the problem that I peaked in the final master chain from -1,0 dB to -0,9dB. With TDR I finally solved this problem. Thank you, Michael!!!
Surfer EQ is another gem đ
The best production channel on youtube
Understanding how my tools work to shape my sound is becoming more clear thanks to you.
Literally the best explanation of compression, and I speak as someone who studied sound engineering..FML
I must have watched about a million ( lol ) tutorials on compression and compressors over the years. This is one is absolutely essential in understanding why the compressor works the way it does. ....... PS. I was just about not going to watch it " Oh no , another Compression video" .............. haha, so glad I did.............. and as someone else said, I always learn something new and more importantly "useful" watching your CZcams videos. ..................... Thank you so much Mike for sharing this with us ! :)
hes videos are always worth it. imho he should go be a teacher at some producer school. none of the artists I know on youtube manage to teach good techniques so simply and fast.
Compression and EQing is a beautiful thing to do specially that I'm learning it better.
Gotta say huge thanks!! I've watched this a few times but never applied it, and WOW!! This actually works!!
Hello In The Mix! Just wanted to say that you are a great teacher. I wish I had teachers like you for every subject in school. You have the ability to compress everything just the right amount, so that it doesn't get boring. The quick explaining with the timer is something else, because it made me so focused on this subject. I usually get carried away when I need to learn something new and then I miss important parts. So thank you for doing what you do.
This is the best explanation of this concept on youtube
Finally a explanation with video to show why and how
So far, this channel has helped me a lot as I slowly teach myself about music production and how to use compression. I'm here because I know that compression cannot do it alone in the mix and I'm glad that I get to take away almost every information you have given us here about EQ. I adapt most of your practices on how to use them and I'm really happy to be here! Thank you very very much!
Beautiful explanation of how EQ and compression work together.
I find your videos amazing because when I watch one, a question is answered but along with that a new question arises and then of course you have a video for that question with an answer. I watch a lot of tutorials from a lot of different channels but you are certainly starting to rise above them all. Great content man!!
I have watched a lot of videos about Audio technique. This is the best explanation of EQ/Compression I have come across so far. This really got me thinking about Compression and EQ in a whole new way and my sound is better and CPU use is also lower. Thanks!!
Beautifully explained, esp. EQ --> Comp --> EQ.
I enjoyed this video more than all of the others that I have watched for the past six months. It illuminated the various points of compression and EQ And it cleared up the confusion that I have been experiencing due to the ineffectiveness of the other videos. Thank you very much I really enjoyed this. Luke
You are amazing brother .... Love from India đźđł
mic pre-->adda --> - comp, EQ, DeEsser maybe, chorus pitch etc (verbs delays on bus)
goal is to enter with the clearest signal,
then add some gain if necessary,
maybe gate or de esser, then a comp
then once the levels noiseless and crystal clear, you can boost them with a group, sidekick, bus or master sing a comp but the comp is before fx (pitch. or mod fx on channel is ok) but verbs and delays should be on a bus to balance the mix together.
I think this is the first time I watch a video without any dislikes!
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Hello Miavono (in the mix) I am a new sound recordist (dialogue & interview) in several documentary films in East Africa,
I'm so fond of your work in the sound professions with fl studio, because you do them very well in a very professional way
I would like to suggest that you help us subscribe to learn tutorials, just show us how you make your own tutorial and how you edit your own voice in your tutorial. I hope it will help me a lot is the others. personally I would be very proud to show you a piece of interviews that I would apply effects is advice you give us that will be useful
I do both, first eq to remove unwanted sounds. Then compressor, then eq for sound adjusting
I am really surprised how well you explained "all that". ⊠You really did manage to consolidate and reduce a "good chunk" of the recording/mixdown process . .. You have clarified, for me, much of the vague nuance that escapes most of us. Really great presentation.
Thank you for the kind words!
Explained Eq and Compression in 60 seconds...and it made sense lol
Youâre a legend in my book
I like the explaining using the term, 'energy', Well thought out!
As I learn more about DAW, everytime the doubt I have is different. Then I always come back to this channel to laern something new or make sure if I get it right. Great job!!
this channel is indispensable
Complex trechnical concepts made easy. Thank you for the detailed end easy to understand explanations.
I was always convinced I needed to use compression first, but I found that sometimes (mainly when things weren't really recorded properly) I couldn't get it it to work how I wanted it to: it would react to peaks in frequency ranges where I didn't want it to do so. Game changer when I started using eq first in these kinds of situations.
Don't stop..just love your tutorials..
What you feed the compression will drive it.
I think I like to use EQ control first to tame the low end.
Maybe some EQ after compressor to polish the highs and clarity
I've been watching you endlessly sir. You are such a help to the community. Thank you very much!!
You're doing a really great job! It was informative, well eloquently spoken and best of all you managed to make the video short! Anyone that produces music usually turn to a tutorial to get a quick instruction and patience is usually not a thing that said person have at his/hers disposal in that given moment.
Thanks, I was trying to realize how does it matter what's after and what's before, but now everything is clear :)
It depends! If you want to "make" the sound, use eq later, eventually.
But if u have to reduce peaks defenitly use eq first!.
Mostly i would just use ew first tbh.
The additive EQ after the compressor was like a mind blowing plot twist in a very much anticipated thriller movie
Best comment of the day right here :)
@@inthemix :D
Another technique that you can use TDR Nova for is dynamic equalization. Each band on this EQ can attenuate (or boost) its frequency range, based on the level of the signal within that range. So, it can be like a compressor and eq at the same time. So for example, if you didn't want to lose the low end on the guitars, you can set the low band to lower the signal level within its frequency range, but only when the signal is above the threshold. The other bands can be left alone/unaffected, if desired.
Yes absolutely. It's a good tip. I mention it in the video too :)
@@inthemix Yes, nice highlight of TDR, which is one of my favorites. Interesting that you used another EQ before TDR, and used TDR like a single, broad band compressor. I usually just roll off the low end with TDR itself, and use the multiple bands of TDR to catch peaks at different frequency ranges. But both ways will work: As usual, we use our ears to get the results we like!
Thanks for everything, you are one of the CZcamsrs who post actually legit stuff about music and help us understand this theory better!! Thanks a lot for everything!!
best tutorials on CZcams about these stuffs, what a guy
I learned how to use EQ and compression in 10 minutes more than 1 term in my class in audio production. Thank you so much. ;-;
Your a good teacher bro. Thanks.
Again, the best teacher Ive seen around
Thanks. Never thought about single frequencies triggering the compression. Awesome video. Thanks for teaching.
Thereâs a ton of great videos on audio engineering and these are definitely among them. Theyâve helped me a lot!
I can't thank you enough for all these valuable information. you are an angel for anyone who wants to learn sound engineering. Thanks for all your effort, much respect!
Yo been watching your vids for a minute and gotta say, you explain things in a way anyone can understand, thank you for taking the time to explain these concepts!
wow. best description of how to use EQ i've every heard. AWESOME man. keep it up my Scottish legend
One of the best teacher ever.
I love the way you say things. Very thoughtful and concise. keep up the great work!
Incredible that you're teaching this knowledge for free. Thanks!
Sir your all tutorials are valuable love from India
The compression helps to EQ
I didn't about this,
Im not used to use Compression,
Thanks man, it helps out a lot.
Thank you for this tutorial. I came to CZcams looking for an answer to a specific question I had, and you answered it perfectly.
If I could make one suggestion, I wouldâve loved to hear six or seven seconds of the original mix, and then six or seven seconds of your what it sounded like after you made those changes. Just to get a better understanding of the difference that you made. Thanks again.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! Itâs helping thousands of people (myself included) express themselves in their music. And with a more professional sound, their music gets all the more marketable. Thanks!
Finally something really useful and coherent. Great vid man! âđŒ
Thank you for making the TDR Nova GE a little bit more known. I really like it. It's a little bit my go-to plugin for almost everything despite its delay of a few milliseconds - in my case 4.2 ms. Unless of course, I want to colour the tone using some vintage style device. Thank you! I might have gone to using its multiband capabilities here. I really enjoy your videos.
Such a great tutorial! Youâre a really gifted educator - thanks for sharing your knowledge. This is my new favorite channel
This is amazing. Im not sure where you from but you really saved those trying to get a great mix. All your explanations are in depth and they are easy to understand. We appreciate you.
Hands down, the best FL tutor I've seen..
in some cases the *bass* of the guitar in a mix would not be listened in this case we don't need a to add bass with EQ, but there might be parts of a song where we need that low end and we could automate or sidechain to raise the bass. Really nice tutorial learned something!
You're absolutely right Boris, all depends on the context of the mix :)
Best way Iâve ever seen this put by far thank you
You're such a great educator. Your approach is simple and expressly detailed. Thank you!
Perfect yet again.đđŒ
This is probably the same question that brought multiband compression into the world haha.
Thanks man, that's very helpful for someone who's trying to understand the basics of music production! :) Cheers from Poland :)
This is FULL of information! Definitely going to have to watch this again soon just absorb all the learning.
Thank you so much for this! Iâve kind of had an awakening recently, noticing that some of my mixes sound too thin. And Iâm a fanatic when it comes to Hi-pas filtering, and sometimes I overdo it. This technique will definitely help! đđŒ
this is the best compression concept i have ever come across thank you
Your tutorials save a lot! Thx In The Mix!
Really enjoy your mellow approach to teaching :-D really gets your point across. Thank you!