Black Dinner: The Betrayal that Inspired the Red Wedding
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- A lot of Game of Thrones history is inspired by real history. The Red Wedding was inspired by the Black Dinner, a bloody event in Scotland's history. George RR Martin saw the death of Robb Stark as the natural outcome from the death of Ned Stark. Mayhaps revenge is in store for the Boltons and Freys, and Jon Snow, Arya Stark, and others can serve justice in The Winds of Winter.
Other elements of ASOIAF lore are also lifted from real life, such as The Wall (Hadrian's Wall), Aegon the Conqueror (William the Conqueror), and the Dance of the Dragons in HOTD (The Anarchy). Leave a comment if you'd like to see future videos discussing more historical parallels with A Song of Ice and Fire.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:49 James II of Scotland
2:43 Conspirators
3:41 Clan Douglas
4:54 Red Wedding
9:26 Black Dinner
13:20 Douglases Do Be Dying
14:25 Red Wedding/Black Dinner
16:01 Last Words
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Hot pie remembers
Ser Hot of Pie is his name, please use his correct name. He’s earned it
@@T.GLongstaffcall him what he is
@@bearholdensharkslux4791 lord hot pie??
I am sure he remembers dessert.
Sometime I hate the word 'Plot armor doesn't exist in real life' because some people are just that lucky sometime.
Sometime, but not literally always
@@Catkoviyou’d be surprised
@@CatkoviAdolf Hitler plot armour intensifies
Genghis Khan is literally our world’s MC
right. like how many nazis and perpetrators of unit 731 got to live out the rest of their lives in peace
That’s a fact about Dacey Mormont. RIP to the fiery young cub. 😢
Still haven’t forgiven George for that one 😔
This episode…is what changed me. Changed my life, broke my heart, broke me, destroyed everything I once was! Lol! Literally! I do my yearly re watch of GoT, and still dread this episode every single damn time. I am forever a die hard Stark fan. Thanks for another great video! ❤
"Out-of-pocketly" is my new favorite adverb.
There is also the blood party in Roskilde. It was a reconciliation feast where 3 kings in Denmark meet and one king Svend betrayed the others, killed King Knud and King Valdemar escaped an startet the war that would unite Denmark🇩🇰
“Out of Pocketedly” 😂
Loved the Oblivion opening scene showing the emperor getting killed lol.
It wasn't the only event that inspired there was Glencoe Massacre that happen in Scotland in 1692AD
I bless the rains down in castemere was so savage lol
The Red Wedding made the insides of my ears sweat.
About Tywin's question in the end of this video, one can question him why doesn't he surrender if he cares so much for the thousands dying for his side isn't free of guilty.
Unfortunately Robb's Tully half got the better of him after laying with Jeyne Westerling. People say he married her because he's like his father but Ned forsworn the honor of Ashara Dayne to marry Cat and secure Hoster Tully's support in Robert's Rebellion. If Robb was more like his father here he would have married Roslin Frey. Tullys just have no good sense, except the Blackfish that is.
Dafuq you talking about?
I never thought about it like that before lol I think you're right
Ned Stark was never betrothed to Ashara Dayne and was never confirmed to have had a relationship with her
Even in real life, we Humans have deeply rooted social traditions that seemingly transeed written law.
Its almost like we devloped a stark revoltion to certain actions one can take under certain situations during our evolution to be more able to cooperate.
Oh! Please please do The Wall/Hadrians wall! I’ve been thinking about it ever since I watched some history of Rome documentary’s. But I’ve been too busy to actually research it…
Thank you for this video!!Amazing one I didn't know about black dinner before I read those books so I didn't thought of it when I read the red wedding in the books but I thought of something else St Bartholomew's massacre ... it was also a "red wedding".It was later I learned about the black dinner and that it was the inspiration of it!! Thank you again for this one I love historical inspirations explained!!!!
Great video! Have you heard about the Stockholm Bloodbath? Executions that followed after a banquet, also very similar to the red wedding :)
Yes! Definitely similar to the Black Dinner - a bit bloodier too. I believe something like 80 people were executed, a lot more than the Black Dinner, but not quite on the Red Wedding's level.
True, only Tywin ended up killing ten thousand at dinner
this is the exact content I am looking for. thank you
Have you heard about the Blood Feast of Roskilde in 1157? after the danish king Erik III died, the country was split into three kingdoms, lead by kings all saying they have a legitimate claim to the throne. One is Eriks cousin Knud, the other his nephew Valdemar and the last his illegitimate son Sven.
The three Kings are at war for ten years but finally negotiate a peace treaty. They hold a big feast to celebrate the new found peace, but one of the kings Knud conspire against the others, and tries to kill the other kings at the feast. Seems a lot like the red wedding too
I now have a new video in my history playlist lol thanks!
You said "tries", so I take it he failed?
Why Tywin is top 3 favorites for me. He's a cruel and brutal man, but he's got a point.
subbed. this is a nice treat of a vid!
Loving the intro by the way.
Historical yellow lunch came with tea and an egg roll.
this happened in real life to my uncle's tribe back home, but it was not a wedding, just a feast. 20k kill count allegedly
Thx. Cool vid idea 👍
Epic inspiration
Look, sometimes you just gotta stab a guy. If that means guest right is broken than so be it.
His sword slipped, it was an accident
Absolutely
Roose and Robb Stark were both guests under Walder Frey's roof, guests killing fellow guests does not break guest right. Only the Freys broke it because they were the hosts.
How the hell is Dacey Mormont the rightful Queen in the north
At least justice was served to Tywin by way of Tyrion. Roose may not be long for The Winds of Winter, if Stannis is successful in taking Winterfell, and Walder Frey's kids are going to turn on each other like rabid dogs when he either dies of old age or Arya shows him how winter will come for him eventually.
Snow and ghosts are coming for them.
@@Jacaerys4life or Nymeria's wolf pack.
@@Knight860 Arya is believed by many in Westeros to be with the Stranger. She is one of the "ghosts" I was referring to.
@@Jacaerys4life Good Point.
Walder Frey was a great uncle as well. Never trust a great uncle.
So there were two different William Douglases?
As bad as it looked in the show, it felt a lot worse in the book. George has this way with words..
7:10 is how I'll describe all my behavior from now on!
Unless of course that Great Uncle is named Stan….actually not him either 😜
What cartoon is that at the beginning of the intro?
the massacre of the memluks in egypt
R+L=C.C. (Crusader Chris)
The brave companion wasnot rooses bannerman. They are a freelanceimg company originally hired by tywin (and probably funded by oberin martel)
Vargo and Roose Bolton made a deal that Vargo would become Lord of Harrenhal if he joins Robb's cause. Also, Roose says "He is my man, as I am King Robb's man." So Roose sees him not so much as a sellsword but closer to a bannerman.
Oberyn Martell? Why would Oberyn Martell have any to do with Tywin????????
First time robb going to battle n he wins them all
The law of hospitality seems like straight out of Viking/Germanic pagan traditions since there the law hospitality was very real.
Boars head. Not a bull
Political Sawant Joffrey lmaoo
GRRM / THE GRIM
Jon Snow is dead, by the same mistake that his father Ned committed, and there is no chance in hell that he would be resurrected, the TV Show already probe the amount of plot holes and out of characters moments that would create, George RR Martin would be very stupid to resurrect Jon Snow out pure fanservices.
It's not unheard of in ISOIAF for characters to be resurrected. Beric, Mel, Lady Stoneheart. It's possible, especially if he's one of the heads of the dragon from the prophecy. If that does happen, I'm sure GRRM will do it better than D&D.
@@_S.D._ Yeah, but every of those characters resurrected either as corpse or lose part of themselves, as Beric put it, he always lose part of himself every-time that the Thoros resurrect him, no if he want to add the same out of character moments and plot holes and D&D, Melisandre is a Stannis loyalist to the day she dies, nothing would change her mind that Stannis is the Azor Ahai, there is also the tiny, little fact that she doesn't known how to bring back people, Thoros didn't teach her, and she had no loyalty whatsoever to Jon Snow, Jon Snow by the end of the day was the bastard son of Ned Stark and die, like his brother Robb making the same mistakes, no one speak of that stupid fan theory anymore, and that is for the best, anyone put Jon Snow in a pedestal, and I glad that Old George bring him down, even that he use him to promote Games of Thrones, shamelessly. The best that you can hope is that Jon Snow become a Warg.