Prince William bursts out at Prince Charles - The Crown Season 6
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- The Crown S06 E05
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"You drove her into the arms that did! By making her so unhappy! By loving someone else!"
This shows how black and white kids see the world. They connect dots easier. In a sense he is right. Charles didn't drive the car. But one has to wonder how different things would've been if they worked it out.
The frontal lobes of the adult brain are where one's cognitive processes - including logic, reason and rationalization - are stored. That part of the brain isn't fully developed in adult males until around age 20. Thus, most teenagers are physiologically incapable of engaging in the adult art of situational rationalization, which comes with age and life's experience, and they are more prone to act or react on emotion. And that in part is why teenagers get so frustrated with adult hypocrisy and can spot it when we do not. Adults can and will rationalize the behavior, decisions and actions of themselves and others. (Whether they are right or wrong in their rationalization may be another matter.) Teens cannot.
I agree with you, totally.
@@donaldkoelper5807 Well said but what they see as hypocrisy is not better than the compromise and shades of grey we see as adults which helps avoid disastrous conflict escalation. If everybody sees the world in black and white, it will soon be red all over.
In real life, Charles was the one who insisted Diana lose her HRH status, even when the Queen allowed it. This also meant losing the use of the Royal Family car and security. It is doubtful that the RF driver would've been drinking and likely would've avoided such an accident so in a way, Charles did indirectly cause it.
Considering, it's alleged Diana kept him aware of her dalliances it's hard to believe he would say this to Charles at all.
I think Prince William had a right to get angry at his dad in this scene. And also it doesn't matter how you feel about this scene even if you completely take Prince Charles' side, Prince Charles divorced Diana and had a difficult time with Prince William and Prince Harry after their mom died.
King *
@@aarshabhdevsingh6937he wasn't at the time
The scene rings true in the sense that after a death like Diana's, there is a lot of misplaced anger. William can't allow himself to be angry with Diana for dying, so he has to take it out on the next best thing and piles the guilt on his father for the divorce. In truth, it was a series of unfortunate circumstances and decisions led to an unimaginable tragedy. William is at the anger stage of grief here and lashing out. It was probably a very long time until he came to acceptance.
@@aarshabhdevsingh6937 Prince Charles was not King at the time. Charles was the Prince of Wales.
The kid needs to work all this out in his headspace. He's wrong but working it out is healthy for all concerned. It's fairly simple here. Charles treated Diana quite badly back in the day. But is he responsible for her death? no
Charles’ own godfather wrote him a letter when he was first pursuing Diana that basically said “if you don’t like Diana then stop messing with her, and choose someone else. You have to respect that Camilla CHOSE to marry NOT YOU. So move on.” And Charles then whines about Mountbatten said he HAD to marry Diana. What a weenie.
Can I please get a source on this? I never knew and would like to learn.
Mountbatten was also a predatory pederast. Whole family is screwy.
It wasn't Mountbatten who wrote the letter, it was his father Prince Philip. Charles's involvement with Diana began after Mountbatten died.
Mountbatten was an absolute piece of shit(and he, though not his family, was a legitimate target). His part in all this was pushing Charles to be with his own family, and ensuring that Camilla would be pushed away.
It is preposterous how many commentators chose to blame Charles for every choice he had to make, as if he existed in a vacuum and not in constriction of royal family😮
I'm with William on this one. Charles should have either never married Diana or dump Camilla once and for all. You can't have your cake and eat it too, without someone getting hurt. In this case, Diana, William and Harry suffered the most.
You do understand Charles and Camila never had a choice either. Behind the scenes there was a lot of lords trying to get Charles to get with their daughter or granddaughter.
@@Phantom19913 they chose to continue their love affair after they both were married. Charles chose the crown over abdicating and marrying her. He chose a home walking distance from her. There were many choices made here.
@@bocus20 is that really a choice since the moment he was able to walk he was raised to take his mothers place it’s the only life he knew. So he had a choice marry a woman that made everyone but him happy or someone that made him happy. He failed Diana the moment he drew her into that life.
Agree
They were divorced. Who Daina was with was up to her.
This was Williams' way of grieving his mother's death. Charles couldn't properly see that.
Anger is definitely a part of grief. It's normal and *healthy* to be angry when someone you love has died, especially so tragically.
That's the second stage of grief.
i've always thought this. if Diana had been in a happy marriage she would have been with her husband and sons at balmoral that summer instead of paris that night💔💔
Not likely. She hated the country. City life, with concerts, clubs, & ritzy restaurants was her idea of a good life. One of the first indicators of trouble in her marriage was when she demanded that she & Charles never go to the country residences, as the Royal Family traditionally did. She hated Balmoral & Sandringham & long walks on the moors. By this point, likely Charles would have been there, she'd have been in London or Paris, & the princes would have split their time between them. She'd still have been playing her silly cat & mouse games with the press, & she'd still be dead in a ditch somewhere. Fate is fate. 👎🏻
Yes.
@@h.calvert3165 you don't know what Diana would or wouldn't be doing. STFU.
@@h.calvert3165 you know nothing. Shut up and stay off my thread.
@@h.calvert3165 Thank you!! People love to see the black and white version of the marriage. But the reality is that it's not black and white, it is more complicated. You hit the nail on the head with this. Charles and Diana were two entirely different people, different interests and neither understood the other's interests. and something the show shows is that it was a pressured marriage on both sides. They had only been on a few dates, and they were chaperoned. Tell me how that creates a safe place for two people to really get to know each other?
Prince William does have a temper. He was known when it was 'War of Wales' in the British Press to scream at both his parents for their behaviour and stories in the press. Which to be fair was making his and Harry life awful.
No kid should shout at their own parents. Shows how spoiled William must have been if he felt like he could do that.
Well, if one's parents are behaving like children running to the press all the time with their own problems...
This is very different Prince William was shouting about both his parent's affairs making every newpapers headline in UK ! I would be cross if both my parent's extra relationships made the UK press everyday.@@startracker5895
Its very well known that his parents Charles and Diana had massive fights. Like screaming and doors slamming kind of fights and Diana always ran to William for emotional support afterwards. It makes complete sense that a child raised in such a unstable environment would reach the end of his rope and scream at them in turn. They let their problems and egos override what was best for their children. A child shouldn't be at fault for having a temper his parents helped create.
@@startracker5895 He was emotionally neglected as a child of course we was gonna lash out. His parent should have been the adults in the situation and not use the press to wage war against one another.
I feel like The Crown is a collection of conversations that should have been had but no one in their position ever could. William and Charles may never have said this to eachother but they had to be thinking it. William with his resentment and Charles more trying to convince himself than William that he didn't set Diana on the path that lead to her unhappiness and death.
Charles does not seem to appreciate that whether unfair or not, it was natural for William to feel this way. Though of course we have no actual proof that he in anyway felt like this
True. This is an entirely fictional conversation.
That said, I think they had Charles handle this perfectly. He listened. He let William get it off his chest and say what he needed to say. And then Charles addressed it calmly but directly.
William has a point. "She shouldn't have been anywhere near the Fayeds!" Most people who married into royalty know what they are getting into, because they were raised into it. Diana thought Charles loved her, and married him because she wanted a family. If Charles wanted Camilla so much he should have stepped down and chose not to be in line for King, and married Camilla instead. Kids are able to perceive their parents' unhappiness. "How better to break down a personality than by isolating it?" "Moo Moo" was extremely manipulative and used Diana's loneliness to encourage a very inappropriate relationship between her and his engaged son for political gain. Had Diana the support she needed, she would not have been vulnerable to the Fayeds.
Queen would not have allowed Charles to flee from his duty just for love. After the divorce, neither Charles had any right to claim influence on Diana nor did Diana had on Charles. Diana should have possessed a good sense of judgment of people before dating.
After Edward VII, Charles' stepping down would have been utterly unthinkable. The tragedy is that his family and Lord Mountbatten completely underestimated and dismissed the love he felt for Camilla in their desire for the perfect young virginal bride for the future king. As a result, they harmed two lives.
@@fahimfaisalmahir567Diana was extremely young when she got married to Charles, i think 20? She was naïve and possessed nothing but the want to get married to a prince. When she learnt of the affair, she was too young to possess the tools to step down and cancel everything. She probably thought she could change him.
God No!!!! GB would have Randy-Epstein-buddy Andrew with the crown instead if that happened.
@@rainysunshinedaysIf Charles abdicated? No, it would fall to his eldest son William, not to his brother Andrew.
The only reason the Crown passed to George VI (Queen Elizabeth II's father) was because his older brother Edward VIII had no children.
Prince William was only 15 when his mother died. That young man was older, but still acted well.😊
he's not playing 15....the season 6 is about William's university days
Never watched The Crown , but what a brilliantly acted scene by both actors .
I'm happy William & Harry love their wives very much (regardless of what you all think of Meghan, Harry does love his wife)
Harry stepping down from his duties for love and family was a brave thing he did, my mom said that Diana would have been proud of him for doing what he did.
I feels so good to hear him hold his Father accountable! Even if it is on a show. Feels good!
William is a very rounded person. Everyone can and should get angry sometimes - it shows he cares enough to get angry. He lost his mum and took it out on his dad. I’m sure as he’s natured he understands that life is not that simple. Charles is I think fundamentally a kind person, he just married the wrong person.
Oh, it took years, no doubt about it for William to understand his father, as much as he DID care about Diana, ultimately wouldn't have married her if Granny hadn't pushed it. Still, no one, not Charles, not Diana, not even Elizabeth, could have predicted it being this bad. How they handled it certainly wasn't the right way, but it took Diana dying for them to understand their places in the tragedy and how that negatively affected everyone...especially the young children who had nothing to do with it.
Because really even the Royal Family agree they weren't thinking as much as they should have about William and Harry. They handled the divorce just fine, it was Diana's death that was the real issue.
he doesn’t even talk to one of his kids. idk how kind of a person he really is.
That clock ticking so loudly isn't helping William's anger.
The fact that Charles tried to play the victim to William in this scene made me sick! Charles was completely responsible for how he AND camilla both treated her.
Philip was even worse when he gaslit William to believe it was all Diana’s fault she died and not Charles. If Charles was a better husband Diana wouldn’t have wanted to leave him and she’d still be alive today.
@@startracker5895If Diana would have been a good wife, Charles never had to return to Camilla.
Diana with the help of her media friends treated Camilla thousand times more horribly. Salute to Camilla for patiently enduring it all
@@fahimfaisalmahir567What the fuck?
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 that cow mistress deserves all the hate
THANKS FOR FINALLY SAYING IT OUT LOUD!!
I have never watched the crown but this was an incredibly well acted scene, whether any of it is true we will never know but bravo to the actors 👏
All well acted from the cast. I don’t know if this conversation was ever happened in real life but I hope it did. William connected all of it to his father doing what he did to his mother, Diana. Diana deserved far better and she gave something to the people that most of royals hardly ever did. Diana showed all of her in her dark times of her marriage with Charles and his mistress, her mental struggles and showing she is just like any other person in the world hurting. And her best in how she made people of the world feel good. She never thought she would be Queen of England but she hoped to be Queen of the people in their hearts. Diana is exactly that to this very day and will remain to be remembered in history. And I think William is the Royal that Diana would have possibly been if she was ever crowned. I wonder if Charles ever looks at William and see Diana in him in real life. Thanks for uploading.
Charles would NEVER see it William’s way. All he cared about was his own self-interest and ultimately being King. That he didn’t care enough about Diana and carried on with Camilla DID ultimately end their marriage and put her in a position where she could be in Paris and meet with her death. I totally understand how William feels here.
But Charles was forced to marry Diana by his family because she was a virgin. I doubt he had any choice since Camilla was already a married woman.
And the way Charles said that his responsibilities for Diana ended long ago? BS.
He never cared for her and as the mother of his children, he should've never stopped protecting her.
Whether or not this convo took place all I could say when I first saw this scene was "Give him hell Will!" Charles deserved every word of that.
Fantasy or not many still believe that Prince Charles (at the time) was to jealous of his wife and really didnt care what happened to her. It was his actions before: his "Wherever love is" comment; he knew then he was not in Love with Diana. During their marriage: his jealousy of ber growing popularity, his affair, him being upset that he had another son, or the fact he was ok his mommy stripping Diana of her HRH title and security after they Divorced. Then after Princess Diana's death: Forcing his grieving sons to walk behind their mother's coffin! Has a lot to do with his boys unresolved anger, as well as those who loved Princess Diana..
This episode is called "charlie is obviously innocent" 😂😂😂😂😂
Actually he's not and we all hate him and Camila 😡
you may hate him, dont presume to speak for everyone@@oshanramanayake591
@@oshanramanayake591Oh piss off. Child
@@oshanramanayake591 That is because you're a bunch of NPC's who can't move on from the 90s. His majesty King Charles III has done a great deal of good since then and has shown again and again his upset for Diana in the past. Stop being such a baby
Charlie and Diana = Charlie and the Waitress lolb
I find it ironic that this fictional Charles would even utter the words of wanting Diana to have police protection when the real Charles bitched so much about Diana keeping her HRH status that the Queen finally gave in to take it from her and thus her Royal police protection. That is one of the main reasons I'm sure William and Harry blamed their father for Diana's death aside from the divorce itself. If only he hadn't nagged his own mummy so much about Diana keeping what should have been hers to keep as the mother of the future King of England, William and Harry may well have their mother now.
NO NO NO ... Diana refused Royal protection.
Diana was divorced, so automatically her HRH will be taken away. She wasn’t born as HRH
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 There were no laws preventing her from keeping her title. The Queen could have decided Diana could keep it. Royal titles are a prerogative of the monarch's only. But the animosity between Diana and the RF was so bitter that they hated each other mercilessly. Plus there was a rumour at the time that Diana basically traded her HRH status for plenty of money from Charles. Probably she felt that he needed to pay through his nose for her misery, but, in hindsight, that was a misguided decision because that took away her police protection. Be that as it may, John Major could have intervened and said "Madam, your daughter-in-law is mother to the future king, and the risks posed to her security and to the royal family as a whole in the absence of a title are too great for the state to accept these terms of the divorce. Please, both of you, reconsider".
@@bogdancristea9270 It doesn't make sense to provide protection to a lady who backstabbed the royal family. But still Queen offered Diana effective protection for her trip to Paris, but she declined. She had more trust on Dodi's protection team than the RF's. Fair enough. Btw, that money was her alimony. She didn't trade her HRH. She received her HRH status because of the marriage. As the marriage was over, HRH was logically stripped away from her. But Queen wished that Diana could still keep the title of Princess of Wales.
Her HRH was automatically stripped. She got HRH when she was a member of the RF. She got divorced and was no longer a member of the family. Also, she was offered to protection but she declined it.
Excellent acting and a very strong and powerful scene.
When someone creates a show because your life is a real Soap Opera....
I’m glad William had a go at Charles. Can’t wait for him to be king. You know the first thing he’ll do is restore her HRH. ❤
He can’t. Diana is dead. He can’t provide HRH to dead ppl. Her mother was cut off from the family and so she never had right on HRH. If William try to do so, it will be unprincipled and unruly.
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 What a shame. He promised her as a young boy.
It wouldn't matter, anyway. An HRH status is hardly necessary if you're not here to use it. The people will always think of her that way, it doesn't have to be a formal, written in stone, title. She'll carry it always, regardless, in the emotional sense.
@@samanthab1923 He promised her when she was alive and didn't expect her to die in a year.
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 How devastating must it have been to find out both his Dad & wife have cancer. No brother to turn to either. Heartbreaking really 🥲
Actually charkes is a good dad....he did not emotionally depend on his kids( like diana) despite his crumbling marriage
Hes taking responsibility and being matured in front of his children...thats why i orefer single dads by choice than single mums
There are only two people who can say whether Charles was/is a good father. You are probably not one of those two.
The powerful thing about this is the fact that neither Charles nor William were completely in the right or in the wrong
Diana was a light or flame that no one could control. I do believe Charles had nothing to do with the tragic event that blew out that light but he did have a hand in craving the results. I still remember the day she died, one of the bleakest day. I'm glad William voiced his questions to charles. He must been grieving for a very long time up to that point.
I hope and pray this conversation really did happen, im glad somebody called charles out for his utter selfishness, its sad that he is now king, he needs to do the right thing and step down
Along with his strumpet CowMilla.
@@SymphonyBrahms That's Queen Camilla to you. Get over it. Charles and Camilla will have been married now for 19 yrs in April 2024. They have both truly won the respect and admiration of the British people since ascending the throne in Sept. 2022. So deal with it and stop whining about the past. 🤨🤨🤨🤨
@@herondelatorre4023
No, we won’t stop.
This is history and has to be remembered! The two may have won your respect but for many of us they didn’t and they never will. It is a parody to have them ruling the kingdom. Charles should have abdicated.
@LoveMusic-nq7pi No, he shouldn't have and NEVER will . King Charles like his late mother will reign for life alongside his beloved wife Camilla until his own passing . Why can't you get over the fact that Charles is a person of tradition and duty, so Abdication is NOT in his vocabulary . Besides, do you really think his son William would want to become king while his own three children are so young ???? William and Catherine would prefer to continue having a semi normal life watching their children grow up FIRST before having to accept the added pressure of being British King and Queen. So again " GET OVER IT " !!!!!!
@@herondelatorre4023 sorry but Charles should still do the right thing and step down and give the title of king to William, Charles ruined his reputation over his affairs with Camilla, his gotta go, alongside Camilla, Charles and Camilla will never be my king and queen, I won’t even dare bow my head to them if I ever saw them
I think that most of us suspected that there a massive level of resentment and anger that William and Harry possessed towards Charles and Camilla; and we always knew that Charles had washed his Hands of any culpability in regards to Diana’s death. He got everything that he wanted; isn’t that all that matters?
Not quite. He didn't want prostate cancer. Looks like a big thumbs down from the One he would represent as the Defender of the Faith. What faith, when two marriages and families must be destroyed so he could TRY to have everything his way.
One of the best scenes in the season
Thinking about being “unfaithful,” that is the main issue. Charles never figured it out.
“I want to talk about this! Talk to me!” 3 minutes later. “How dare you tell me what you really think!” Yes, it’s fiction. But this made me lean forward. Royal or peasant, dysfunctional families are all the same.
The pain of a child trying to understand his parents are human. Good lord this show could pull a heartstring from across the pond, just did!
Well Charles insisted for him to speak. So he spoke.
And didn’t like it! Lol
From a grieving, angry boy's point of view, this makes perfect sense. We as adults understand that life is sometimes very gray, and no, Charles didn't do it. But to William, who always seemed to play the part of the good son, the understanding son, having his mother who he was very close to ripped away so senselessly...in his mind, if the original wound, his parent's divorce, hadn't happened then his mother would have been there with them instead. We logically know that it was just a messy situation and Charles acted selfishly and stupdily, but of course he wasn't "responsible" for this, people split up and fall out. It happens. But I can understand it from William's point of view, from the mind of an angry, wounded child that doesn't care about nuance and can't really conceptualize it and instead just sees the connect-the-dots.
awwww the cheating garbage finds it upsetting that his son hates the fact that he cheated on his wife and their mother.
Queen Camila was married when King Charles came back from naval service. She probably did not think she could marry the future king. Princess Diana's problems stem from her mother leaving the children at a young age more than anything else. One of the reasons why Prince William decided to marry a woman from a loving family. It just goes to show it does not matter how beautiful a person is on the outside, but the inner confidence is far more important. Parental actions can and do shape a child's life.
The one thing every new Historian discovers is that History is complicated.
Dominic West put in such an amazing performance through this series. Very underrated.
I was happy to see Will say what I thought too.
Shows what a lack of self awareness that Charles had if he didn’t feel the slightest bit of guilt when Diana died. She wouldn’t have been in Paris in the first place if Charles could have been a better husband and left Camilla alone! 🙄
Why would he compromise his true love when his beautiful saintly wife was sleeping with one man after another?
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 she only cheated because Charles cheated first. Why don’t some people get that? 🙄
@@startracker5895No, Diana cheated first. She herself confessed in her interview that she was the first in the marriage to seek love out of the marriage. Charles and Camilla’s affair reignited in 1986 after Diana’s affair came to the light.
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 LOL Camilla was around from day one of that marriage. She even was at the wedding FFS.
@@ktgbwBcz her husband was one of the organizers of the wedding. Her husband’s family was close to the RF.
I think people get this show mixed up with a documentary.
Charles was forced by his family to marry somebody he didn’t love, when he was totally in love with somebody else. Diana was an insecure romantic, who desired to be adored. This was a very public marriage. The public loved Diana and Charles was jealous of that. She turned to other men. The fuse was lit for massive explosion.
I knew Charles didnt love her. He just needed the heir snd the spare
I'm glad that William and Harry married Kate and Megan for love and not for arrangement.
@@meganbateman5634 But Harry is miserable with Meghan, While William is happy with Catherine
I am convinced that they went back in time and got the actual teenage Prince William.
I can understand why William feels the way he does, but of course Charles is right. What happened to Di was in no way his responsibility. Diana was a grown woman who fooled around more than Charles ever did during their marriage, and she was capable of making her own choices. She chose to get in the car and what happened was a result of her choices. Not Charles'. Hers. She should have made better, more responsible choices and thought about her children. Actions have consequences. Sometimes, fatal ones.
Many times we try in our minds to change what happened when we lose love . Trying to rationalize it. I ts hard on kids and hard on parents . These boys were young and it takes time to work through..William did just that realizing he had just one parent left.
I always wondered if they really talked to each other in this style of English.
I'd say it's a certain level of embellishment. Remember that this show is primarily fictional in nature, so they probably pretty up the dialogue to make it sound more poetic and eleoquent than would typically be the case for most folk.
How can a father not understand his son's pain and frustration at losing his mother. Whether he handled it right or wrong, Harry was right to get out.
prince william had every right to be mad at charles.he was the one who divorced diana because he wanted to be with camilla,perhaps if diana had felt more loved by her husband then they wouldnt have divorced and perhaps she would not have been with dodi and perhaps she would still be alive
Why would Charles sacrifice his true love?
Stop justifying an adulterous relationship. You can talk about love if you want but the reality is that Charles and Camilla could be together from day one if he had the courage to abdicate like Elizabeth's uncle. He valued money and spotlight more than love. Charles' cowardice and indifference cost his sons a beautiful mother. Nothing and nobody can deny the fact that it was Charles who wanted it all at the cost of Diana.@@fahimfaisalmahir567
@@samwise0074 Another abdication would have ended the monarchy on the spot. The Crown is a duty for life. Charles' relationship with Crown is way more important than every mortal relationship he has in the world. He was born for the Crown and its weight is his fate. Edward VIII was forced to abdicate by the Parliament for multiple reasons. The marriage with that divorced woman was mere one of those reasons.
The children have a right to be angry
Forget the royalty part any family that has been torn apart by divorce (regardless of fault) the kids will lash out when one parent dies. Hell even without a death kids will lash out, and how you handle that as a parent will stick out in the kids mind forever. Frankly you should never stay with a spouse just for you children because you’ll inadvertently take it out on them and damage any future peace you might get from it. What makes it worse is the hordes of people demanding you act a certain way even when you’re feel the exact opposite of the way you’re supposed to act. Throw an endless stream of money, drugs, alcohol, sycophants and trollops in the mix and frankly it’s a wonder any of the kids turn out decent.
The screaming matches between Charlie and Willie are legendary. Willie is an angry bloke.
He & Harry have every right to be!
@@sweettea6706Their mother died as a result of how their father treated her during their marriage and after their divorce. If the king had tried to be a better husband, William and Harry would still have their mom today. I think there will always be resentment. That's why William and Harry are so protective of their wives, determined that their children to grow up with a mother, and vowed not to make their father's mistakes.
@@meganbateman5634 Well said!
Even if they had divorced, both could’ve been friends for the children. Spend time with her family. He didn’t do that for her. He didn’t want to. That was his choice. And there were the consequences
Charles is directly responsible for one thing. She was going to keep her hrh status. He demanded that she loose that. She kept "princess of wales" title without hrh? It just never made much sense
Can you post the video of Phillip talking to William, and then taking him to Highgrove.
Yes, William, yes!
“By loving someone else”
William has his rights to get angry with his dad and I'm on William's side. What William also said is true. Charles made Diana very unhappy and let her down in life and I hate him 😡
I agree Charles did made her unhappy and let her down but he isn't responsible for her death it was the paparazzi who cause her death
@@JohnathanHouston-uq6hy So true. It was the paparazzi and the driver was drunk
Of course he has a right to be angry William is in grief. The way I see it Diana and Charles should never have gotten married in the first place. She was a kid in love with a man in love with someone she was the other woman as heartbreaking as that is. The sad truth of this bad things happen to good people.
@@Phantom19913 I agree it's true that Charles was in love with Camilla while he was married to Diana but he isn't responsible for her death it was the paparazzi that cause her death but he did let her down
@@clearsky4003 there was a lot of pressure for Charles to marry someone from the aristocracy. There was a little war behind the scenes Charles was being transferred to different commands so lords in the military could introduce him to their daughter or granddaughter.
The Queen did it
If this had even happened William was right.
"You see these McNulty? You see 'em? These are for you. These are for you for as long as it takes to get even."
I do not think Charles was directly responsible for Diana death, but it is really incredible how sub standard was diana security that day. The crown as Institution should have forgot all the feelings there and guarantee the best Protection for the mother of the future king.
Diana had been gaslighted repeatedly by C&C. Was it any wonder that she was so paranoid she did not trust the security people? Also the BBC, in the guise of Bashir, provided evidence that her security could not be trusted.
The security lapses was the fault of the Fayed organization..Diana herself turned down the Royal Protection officers as she feared they were spying on her..she would accept the RPO when her sons were with her
She refused royal protection after the divorce. She choose to date and holiday with Fayed's. She choose to get into a car with a drunk driver. She choose not to wear a seat belt. The only person who survived the crash was wearing a seat belt. After divorce she was a private citizen and nobody had the right to force her to do anything.
To be fair to the queen, she offered to continue Diana’s royal protection owing to her status as the mother of the crown Prince. Diana refused because she didn’t want RPOs spying on her. Owing to this poor decision, she got a 24-year old rent-a-cop who didn’t do his job.
An experienced RPO would never have a loud and impaired driver behind the wheel and would’ve put the kibosh on the whole trip. Dodi had promised his father to stay in the hotel that night but within half an hour he changed his Coke addled mind. The fateful trip was completely unnecessary. What a stupid waste of life.
Exactly. Probably the Queen was the only one focused on Diana‘s role being the mother of the future king. All other people were focused on their anger, feelings or whims. The whole accident is an awful chain of poor decisions happening at the same time. Deaths like this are really hard to accept, even 20+ years later
Go get 'em, Wills!! But he'll get him in the end, if he's still interested in doing that. It would make me happy if he did give his beloved Mummy her rightful HRH title posthumously and she can still be the Princess of Wales in death. Charles will NOT have the last word. I don't blame him for absolutely everything but as the presumably the only adult in the relationship of the two of them (he was 32 and she was only barely 20 when they married) he gets most of the blame for the relationship failing. He should have known better than to put that young innocent girl into a situation that would create personal misery and not even bother to hide the fact that he was cheating her with someone else literally THE WHOLE TIME he knew her. Yeah okay that is how royal men in that family always behaved and it's traditional but this is also morally reprehensible and pure arseholery. Can't be a royal and and arsehole in the 20th (and now 21st) century.
Unfortunately, with my own gut feeling, I feel like William grew up to be essentially like his father.
@@ktgbw The only difference is that he's protective of his wife and determined not to have his children grow up with a mother avoiding not to make his father's mistakes
Prince William witnessed the tremendous pain his mother went through, often pushing tissues under the bathroom when she was sobbing... The boys had the most doting mother figure but their father couldn't care less about his family and proceeded to dismantle it for the sake of the rottweiler, I can understand Prince Harry's decision to leave and start a new life elsewhere, How he must be utterly traumatized by Camila's presence for all these years, aside from his predator of an uncle...Hopefully William will reinstate Diana HRH title as well as making amends with his only brother❤
Yes, Harry is living such a new life that he can’t stop talking about his old life. Oh sorry I forgot that his bread comes from the (fake) stories about the old life. Diana is dead and she will never get her HRH back since HRH status is for living people. Camilla is the Queen and was always meant to be. No one can change the inscription of fate. Btw, William was the one who had the understanding of things when his mother was alive. He was deeply embarrassed of her antics. Harry was a child back then and so he didn’t know a lot.
@@fahimfaisalmahir567The fragmented focus on Harry is hypocritical, Charles once called his mother in his book cold and aloof as well as describing his father as a bully, knowing well enough that his parents have a duty over everything, a concept that he failed to grapple with when it came to his commitment to his family even though he was just a prince at the time, complaining and projecting his insecurities unto his much younger and popular wife Diana.. William was her closest confidant and even chastised his father for his mistreatment towards her, Furthermore, Charles shouldn't let the predator Andrew roaming around freely, It is utterly disgusting and embarrassing to say the least...
@@shikazh5139Charles didn’t monetize his feelings about his relationship with his parents and neither he made a big drama out of it. By Diana’s own admission, Charles was a great father to his children. Charles was as close and accessible to the children as Diana was. With all the adjectives you used for Diana, you should have also added mentally ill, a Bulimia patient as well. Charles did try to hold the relationship but Diana’s illness, her attention hungriness and her obsessiveness ruined the relationship. Her affair with her bodyguard also adds to the list which forced Charles to restart his affair with Camilla.
@@fahimfaisalmahir567Charles is the biggest drama queen by all admissions,that is why Camilla refused his proposal initially, but knew how fragile he is ,so she kept swinging with both her husband and Charles..It is laughable how you keep slandering Diana when Charles early on confessed once publicly that he would've preferred having two wives...
@@Catherine88f Exactly! Charles never hid his sinister intentions even in public! Also the fact that Andrew was paraded during Christmas while countless of his victims are scarred for life speak volumes about Charlie's character!!
After the queen ,it's William who is capable in all ways to be the king of England and not Charles... the boy is way more mature than the father
Well, King Charles is far more intelligent and smarter than his two thick sons combined.
William bullies Pa. Darling boy goes bananas. Charles is very well spoken and handsome here 😂
"Author's Message!" 🙂
Truth hurts
The actor who is going to play William in his 40s has to shave his hair 😂
both sides make strong points. Charles did divorce Diana but she did decide to be with Dodi in Paris. its not entirely Charles' fault but he did play some role in it
No, he didn't. Diana refused royal protection officers who would never have let her get in that car. When she did that, she became responsible for her own safety.
@@justonecornetto80She refused the protection because that unprofessional journalist Bashir made her paranoid.
@@cg8397 Irrelevant. She knew the dangers to herself as mother to the future King yet chose to whore herself out to the Al-Fayeds.
@@justonecornetto80 Refused royal protection because of odious Martin Bashir and the forged documents, lest we forget.
@@justonecornetto80no what I am saying is that Charles divorced Diana so she felt excluded from the royal family but she did refuse royal protection. Everything that both William and Charles are saying is true
2:01 Mic drop 🎤
Can someone post the next scene where Prince Phillip visits Prince William at his college and explains that his anger is misdirected at this father. That is the scene of all scenes.
This is an excellent episode. Season 6 is def. better than 5
I will never accept Charles as king nor will I ever accept Camilla as queen because of the shameful and disgraceful way that both of them treated Diana during her lifetime, it’s almost as if they drove her to her death and it shows just how dysfunctional the Windsors really are - so what if Diana later on “had affairs” while being trapped in that loveless Marraige, who could blame her? And yet, the traumas of those early years have deeply affected both William and Harry well into their adult lives
I am so sad for William, but is it fair to blame his father? Both his father and his mother were adults😮
William is right... Charles is inherently selfish... Domino effect.
Whew
Aaaah, if thosee walls could talk. I wonder if people would hate William as much as they hate Harry if William came out and agreed with the allegations Harry has set forth about their father. I wonder how they feel about the mistress being crowned.
She is his legally wedded wife for 19 yrs..
@@fahimfaisalmahir567didn't start out that way. She is technically the mistress
Well IT IS time even for U to move on - Diana has won. Diana changed someome where Nobody thought IT would be possible. Without Diana the Queen would not have ever changed. So and now Charles is married to his C. So the crown must win - must Always win!
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 By that logic, Wallis Simpson should have been treated better than she did.
@@ktgbwCamilla didn’t warm bed with Nazis
If this happens in a common family no one would have bothered to see.
This happens in a royal family everyone would want to speculate on different senarios.
I dont think this entire thing was planned, if it was planned camilla would be single, why would she get married to someone else and have 2 or 3 children.
So the car diver also died?
Princess Diana is everyones favorite, if she was in love with that muslim doctor guy, they could have got her married to him, so she would have had a different family and kids.
And the two children(boys) could have stayed with their Dad.They could have ended their relationship in good terms so both are happy.
Well he treated Diana terribly to him she's just the first wife to William and Harry she was their Mother and an excellent one irreplaceable. Eventually William will be King and then it will not just be all about Charles because William is Dianas son he would not even exist were it not for her and he appreciates that although Charles does not.
I totally agree with William in this scene. *Diana had issues* (and she had come from a very dysfunctional family) *and Charles'*
*selfish behavior exacerbated those issues!*
imho: Charles has been an absolute failure as a husband (to Diana), and by extension, father to his two children.
*I hope and pray for William's and Harry's sake that Charles has reflected on his failures and sought to make amends to his children!*
Sadly, I am afraid that ship has already sailed with Harry ... Harry himself, who appears to have his own issues; has gone too far at this
point, by lashing out at his family in public. Harry has completely ruined his own life by his own choices (including drug and alcohol
abuse) at this point in time.
imho: Charles was so self-absorbed (he still is, it has been noted that he is a narcissist who surrounds himself with syncopates)
that he could not think about what his actions were doing to his children or to Diana.
What you call Harry's "lashing out" seems to me to be his setting some records straight. Harry couldn't control the palace or the press, but he has the right to tell what he experienced. After he became husband and father, he had the responsibility to remove his family from what they experienced as an emotionally unsupportive and physically threatening realm. You say Harry has ruined his life? To the contrary, Harry has given himself an opportunity for a sterling life. He refused to play "keeper of the pain" just to keep up appearances, and took a chance at testing his wings outside the cage. Harry seems a prince of a man, husband and dad. I wish him and Meghan the best, as I also wish for Will and Kate.
@@emilerose1424
I certainly wish the best for all of the
BRF.
>"Setting the record straight"< ???
More like publishing a book and that
Oprah interview; while Prince Philip
was on his deathbed, to make a buck!
Those two no-accounts did not even
visit Prince Philip or the queen shortly
before their last days!
This should not surprise anyone. Look
how she has treated her own family!
Only in Harry's and Meghan's (twisted mental) world would families speculating
about a future child's physical traits be
viewed as "racism"
King Charles’ actor is way too good looking to be playing him and it’s throwing me off. They should have found someone awkward looking with big ears.
Those people don’t do well as actors.
with all my heart, i hope this conversation took place. I loathe camilla and charles.
Everything I saw Charles do shows him as a week and clueless man.
Even at that age, he's still a whiny brat. "I resent the accusation". That family was broken because of him, his responsibility for Diana never should have ended in the first place or he should have just left her alone from the start.
When the crown and all the pageantry goes away and things get real!
Dominic West would be a far better King now than Charles is!
Can't wait for Charles to abdicate!
Dominic is way too good looking to play Charles. But my favourite actor who played Charles in the crown was Josh O Connor who played Charles in S3&4 of the series
@@oshanramanayake591 He certainly portrayed His Majesty most accurately!
@@johnscanlan9335 You mean who ? Dominic West or Josh O'Connor? For me it's Josh O'Connor
The guy that publicly cheated on his wife with a co-star actress waaayyy younger?
Imo, Charles used Diana to have his heir, period. Camilla was “unsuitable.”
He calls both his mother and his dead wife “Mummy” ..
what are yhou talkng about
Prince William knows THE terrible truth. Shame on Charles for EVER marrying Blessed Princess Diana.😞
Charles did Diane dirty, I doubt anyone would deny that. He was the one who made her the most unhappy. But then again, he also made with her the two most important people in her life.
Divorce happens. She was miserable with Charles and she was still young. I think she’d have been happy. But it didn’t end that way and the surviving ex-spouse isn’t responsible for either outcome. The cold, hard fact is that life is just unfair. It can be downright cruel and it’s hard to lose someone so important and have no one to blame.
I can see both points 🤔
Prince William had every right to be angry. His father isn't perfect.
He was (keep this in mind) force to marry. Not the women he was deeply in love with.
But Diana. I believe he loved her. But wasn't IN love with her.
Regret is a horrible thing to live with. King Charles has a lot of them.
Diana wasn't completely blameless.
She got very good at using the media. When it suited her.
What happened to her was HORRIBLE. 😢😢😢😢
I was so sad for her.
The boys.
I don’t think it was Charles I think it was mi6 that did it
I stopped watching the show before Annus horribilis. I wasn't a Royal fan when all the divorces started happening. To me a Monarchy, especially theirs, is by divine/moral rite. If they can't live by covenants, why should their people? I thought the Queen tried her best, but she got caught up in the times. It showed in her children. Lucky, William is resurrecting family. I might watch that segment. But, I really hated the 90s version of the royals.