Did Brock Purdy prove that he’s a franchise QB? | NFL | SPEAK
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- Brock Purdy led the San Francisco 49ers to a comeback win over the Detroit Lions to advance to Super Bowl LVIII. Tom Brady said that Purdy has “done a great job”. Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, James Jones, and LeSean McCoy debate whether or not Purdy has done enough to prove that he is a franchise QB for the 49ers.
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Mann when I say James, joy, and shady hate almost everyday is sad
Purdy haters
Shady, they would be fools not to take him.
As a niners fan, anyone who thinks this defense is still elite has not watched our team in the past 5 years. This year has been a MAJOR regression in our defensive scheme. Players are still some of the best, but the scheme has done wonders at destroying their effectiveness.
Wilks
I agree. They better be more prepared for Mahomes and company.
Can't agree more. Our defense right now is not scaring anyone.
wilks has been great in improving our secondary, but not getting creative and breaking sack records with such a talented front 7 is so criminal
Wilks wishes he could still hide in the booth. The guy had an elite team, but he put his ego into the system and deconstructed their system. He can't leave soon enough.
I'm a Chiefs fan, but as early as last season, I have already acknowledged Brock Purdy as a top QB in the league. Top 10, maybe even Top 5 after this SB, depending how he plays
He has the numbers, he has the poise, he has the composure, and most importantly, he has the wins. Brock Purdy has a 4-1 playoff record despite just being on his 2nd year. The lone loss was due to his injury. He has yet to lose a playoff game in which he played all minutes. For context, the "most talented" QB Lamar Jackson has 2 playoff wins in 6 seasons. Other players are built for numbers, some players are built for the clutch. Brock Purdy has showed us so far that he's built for both.
Thank you my man. From a Niners fan
Thank you 🙏🏽
Purdy has a super team around him. Mahomes has nobody except Kelce. His top WR wouldn't even start on the 49ers team.
@@realistNFL Chief has better offensive line. And your are comparing Purdy to the best Qb in the league.
@@realistNFL bro, just stop it. Mahomes is clearly a whole tier above the rest, but Purdy fits right in at the table where Allen, Burrow, Lamar, and Hurts sit.
I love how even former NFL players love to move the goal posts, change narratives, and engage in my personal favorite; the good old "what if" scenarios, in order to not give Purdy his props.
The "what if" scenarios are going to come, Purdy is in year 2 he has a whole lot of proving to do he has 2 really good seasons bt he hasn't even played the SB yet and ppl crowning dude he still has to prove it in 2 weeks because narratives change if u don't show up ex. Lamar Jackson
What if Purdy didn't lead 1st in most QB categories, what if Purdy didn't take his team to the Superbowl in his second year, what if Purdy didn't rush for 48 yards in the NFC Championship game.
Just saying these to get it out of the way for the haters that will come in here and quadruple down on Purdy just being a game manager.
@@soapa4279purdy is a 10-12 QB in the NFL hes a good QB but he's not what people want him to be he's lucky he went to the PERFECT situation for HIM
Totally agree, its crazy. he's trying to define franchise QB as someone who would win on any team, even one devoid of talent? For me franchise QB has always been THE guy on THE team. Manning on the colts, brady on the pats, rodgers on the packers, mahomes on the chiefs. Franchise guys don't move around. Purdy is the guy in SF now. Doesn't matter how well he'd play on any other team
@@Michael-yw5me big Ben on the Steelers
I like the fact that they act like Achos' stupid. You got Brady & Gronk praising Purdy while Shady is acting wild.
It's just hate. We as a country have gone away from celebrating the nobodies "overachieving" story and instead want to defend the somebodies underachieving.
@SUPERBLINDRHINO fr, mf discredited himself when he said he doesn't care what Brady says. Brady praised Purdy.
Only one of them watches tape. Plus, Shady is really bad at this. His thoughts and opinions are completely disjointed and incongruent.
@@chaddon7685 he is to biased...
Just ignoring what they said. He’s a franchise quarterback only for the 9 ners he’d be trash everywhere else
Reminder that if Purdy didn’t get hurt last years NFC championship game, we could be looking at Purdy and Mahomes back to back SB face offs. Since we like to talk about hypotheticals on this show 😂
Joy and Shady definately wouldn't agree with you because beside Patrick, Jalen is their god too.🤣🤣🤣
@@dice138 for sure, but I’d say that it’s more likely Purdy back to back SB appearances over Hurts.
@@pakacomilla3123 No doubt, brother. I feel the same way.
I think Mahomes even had a better team last year
Brock Purdy is 0-152 in hypotheticals
I’d like Acho to finish his points. People keep cutting him off and he brings up good points. He’s not an emotional analyst and uses data for the most part.
He really does
Let's go bots🎉 real chat speak fam!!! Give me your pick for the SB winner! Sf ? Kc ? I'm no slouch I'm all SF for good or bad 30 + yrs
Acho is hit or miss. He tries to be too analytical sometimes and be sounding crazy.
Him with herbo is skip with lebron
@@mikewilliams115 Lebron actually wins though, I think Acho is wrong on Herbert, but the guy is getting paid obscene amounts of money and hasn't won squat
Why does no one mention that Brock Purdy plays behind a mid 20s ranked offensive line? When pressured, and it’s quite often, he is deadly. How many other quarterbacks could you put in that position and have the numbers that Brock has?
If only Purdy had 10 All Pros on offense, it would be fair
Been saying the same thing all year. If Brock Purdy had just a good offensive line from the center, right tackle, and right guard he’d light up this league like no one’s ever seen!
It's because they see Trent Williams there and just assume it's a good offensive line, despite the fact the other 4 players there are scrubs. I think I've only heard Chris Broussard mention this (to which Nick Wright countered with "Any o-line with Trent Williams on it can't be bad").
definitely but a lot of QBs can be that deadly when pressured especially with Shanahan's hot routes installed. Some teams, like we've seen with the Ravens idiotically do not install those routes
@@codyjackson245Yep it’s why 4 quarterbacks were knocked out last year over the season in 2022 under Kyle Shanahan. It takes a special fast processing quarterback to play behind that terrible offensive line combined with Shanahan’s complex offensive schemes. Purdy haters are blind to this because they don’t want to see (many fanbases also hate because they secretly wished they had Purdy on their team if they lack a good Qb😂).
ACHO IS LEVELS ABOVE THE OTHER 3, HE NEEDS TO BE SOMEWHERE WITH ONES ON HIS LEVEL!!!
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🤣🤣🤣🤣 no
Idk man Acho be having some braindead takes a lot of times too
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Acho saying Andy Reid is a genius too and Joy basically saying “okay but let’s ignore that so I can make my point” is crazy but also ngl Lamar don’t fit into the criteria Shady pointed out for a Franchise QB lmao
Good fkkkn point...
Lamar also has a great team built on Defense but somehow only Brock gets punished for having a good defense. 🤦
Yea i find it funny how purdy gets called a system qb but we saw how lamar played when the ravens run game got shut down by the chiefs
Lamar is definition of a “system qb”
i died laughing at her face. and you could tell she was tilted the rest of the clip
shady contributes to this topic the same amount as he did in his super bowl appearances
😂😂😂😂😂😂 good one
1000% facts, he puffin his chest out 😂
WHich issssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss....................................... NOthing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Acho is the only one that keeps it real on this show. Purdy put up elite numbers this year as a first full season starter. He makes all the throws, can run for a first down. Has poise. Oh and he is only …..what 24 years old. Give me a break.
Acho does a great job
Seriously 🤦🏾♂️
yEA THE REST OF THE 3 are haters i do like JJ can't stand shady &Joy .
The scrutiny that Brock is getting is ridiculous. Clearly the scouts misread his abilities, just like the scouts misread a guy named Tom Brady that was drafted 199. We have busts every year and we have guys that prove everyone wrong. Purdy is legit and top QB, he's not elite like Burrow, Mahomes and Allen, but he's Top a 10 in the league and he's a guy that can lead a team winning a Super Bowl. He's the best game manager out there - lol
He’s done a pretty good job at staying healthy too. He’s only missed one game so far due to injury.
Hoe burrow Is not elite
I think the scrutiny comes from the fact that people do not think he's top 10. I definitely don't think he's a top 10 player.
Hoe burrow is not elite
With a touch of the clutch gene on display in this years playoffs he has been officially promoted to game executive.
Funny how people criticize people like Purdy for being a game manager or system QB yet he made a SB before Lamar
Touché facts 😂
Lamar's defense held Mahomes to 17 points and he couldn't find a way to win. Brock's defense held Detroit to 31, yet he found a way to win, it's ridiculous.
As a niners fan I personally wouldn’t be trading Purdy for Love or Goff…..
You wouldn’t trade for Jordan Love?? That’s complete BS
I think Brock is so smart, quick, and decisive. i think purdy outplayed both Goff and Love to win those games...with his legs, decisions to not throw some throws and scramble to open receivers.
I would trade Purdy for Mahomes or Burrow. I can see a good argument for Allen, Lamar, and Stroud as well. After that, no thanks.
@@rajkaranvirk7525 why would they be isn’t that good bro just bet he made some weak throws and tried to look like Rogers he did a horrible job at it
Oh there are lots I WOULD trade him for…..but not those two they mentioned. As for that “BS”, Love hasn’t done anything Purdy hasn’t also done and Purdy is younger.
As a Casual even I wanna apologise, I didn’t even know it was his second year the way the media talk about him, Bright future & cheap, best scenario with all that talent
Prob cause he was injured last year so it blurs out
@@Kevin.Costner.he wasnt
@@chapofn6057 did you not watch the NFC championship or something? He had elbow surgery from his injury....
@@chapofn6057 so salty, lol
Not even second year, 1.5 years, he didn't start until Jimmy G got half way.
Acho is becoming one of the best analysts out there...
That dude sucks 😂
Lol no dh he not
Bruh he said that the niners defense isn’t generational
@@keyvanlopez2293they aren’t.
This defense? Nah. 2019-2022 yeah@@keyvanlopez2293
Joy really has a weird obsession with Jalen Hurts. It gets kinda weird
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She is getting bored with the Old Eagle and is looking for a fresh drumstick!
She’s a never mind let me be quiet
it is weird but I think if you put Hurts on the Niners they would be a dynasty. Just my opinion. Idk how you would be able to defend them.
@@codyjackson245hurts can’t even win with the eagles lmao
Calling this defense "super duper good" or even worse "generational" is a terrible take. Tell me you don't know football without telling me you don't know football.
It's because for nearly two decades we've been great if not the best. That has not been the case this year. These analysts not watching these niners games is the same reason they all want Brock Purdy to be compared to Jimmy G. Anyone who knows ball knows there is a mountain of difference between the trust this team has in Brock vs Jimmy.
@@SUPERBLINDRHINOthey where not better than Seattle in the last decade
Team is scoring 30 points a game and they say it's defense
@@benadek6703 early half of the last decade sure. Later half of the decade Seattle’s defense was mid to bad.
Does LeSean Mccoy even watch tape, or does he just say outlandish stuff to get reactions.
He’s been mad since his eagles lost to them
The latter.
All the Purdy hate is outlandish nothing. With nothing to back it up. Purdy’s play and stats say he is elite.
And he said he needs his quarterback to be a pro bowler...that's what Brock Purdy is!
He watches blank tapes like Jamarcus
Acho is carrying this show
There is 3 reasons to watch this show #1 Acho #2 & 3 Do I really have to say it?
Acho does his research and is very articulate.
No, he's carrying Brock's 🥜
Shady is not keeping the same energy for Jalen Hurts. When they were winning but Jalen was playing bad/mediocre, all Shady said was "they are finding ways to win games". That's exactly what Brock is doing.
That's what I've been saying. Not just this group. When Jalen won by coming from behind, most analysts said exactly what you have said, "they are finding ways to win games", "a win is a win". And when Brock won by coming from behind last week, all they focused on was how bad Brock played in the first 3 qtrs. Its rediculous!
And Joy kept talking about his “resume” as a reason to not criticize him. I’m honestly starting to think that it’s because he’s a white kid. I try to not fall into that trap, but at this point I can’t understand why they keep moving the goalposts for only him. We’re in a time where if you don’t have a certain look you’re dismissed as a game manager.
@@49rs1fan Honestly, I would think that too if it wasn't for the constant meat riding of Josh Allen, so I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt on that.
Fun fact - Brock Purdy and Jalen Hurts are both 6’1 220 lol
Ayo don't go bringing facts into the conversation. This panel only relies on emotion 😂
Some guys are just winners and Purdy is a winner, being smart and calm under fire is so important in the NFL, also just admit it, Purdy is a great humble dude
Andy Reid couldn't win for years until he went to the Chiefs and got Patrick Mahomes. Jalen Hurts was only really good last season. This season, he was clearly struggling. I don't really understand why every time theres any argument about Purdy its "Yeah he wins, and yeah he plays super well, but..." Mahomes is probably the only QB that can take a talentless team to the playoffs, but we'll never know because he has had talent around him for years. Lamar and Allen struggled without talent around them. The biggest difference between Purdy and Jimmy is that Jimmy accounts for barely any part of the offense, while Purdy accounts for the majority of the offense. AND Jimmy had his defense bail him out every time, while Purdy doesnt always have that luxury. Having talent on the offense isnt an excuse to say that the QB isnt good enough
you gonna need to revise your first statement a little bit and put some respect on Andy's name...
Do you know who Andy Reid is? Did you watch his team? His teams definitely won bruh
@@rajkaranvirk7525He didn’t win anything in Philly. Not at the ultimate level of winning a chip. So dude is completely accurate in his statement. He didn’t win until he got Mahomes
Absolute facts about Andy. He didn’t win until he got the guy that could fully execute his offense. He didn’t win with McNabb. Or when he first got to KC with Alex Smith. He finally got an opportunity to go get his guy with Mahomes. And then he became a champion. Now he definitely gets credit for drafting and developing Mahomes. But the point being that Kyle came close with Jimmy like Andy did with Donovan. But Kyle needed to get his guy to fully execute his offense too. And he has that now with Purdy
I would love to see Mahomnes in Titans under some other coach and I bet on my house he would be average at best
Anyone who still compares Brock to Jimmy G has not watched 49ers football over the last five years.
As a 49ers fan, I wanted Jimmy out bc he was limited. I don’t feel that way about Brock. Brock will only continues to get better.
Yup. People forget Brock didn’t have a proper off season because of the injury. Now imagine him with an off season too?? It’s game over
Im not even a 49ers fan but all the Brock Purdy slander is ridiculous. Dude is a franchise QB especially if he win a the bowl against Mcholmes.
49ers defense is good but its far from generational. The ravens, packers and lions cooked that defense. There defense gets too much credit.
How can you talk all that trash about Purdy in the 1st half then say the 49er defense who played HORRIBLY in the 1st half is GENERATIONAL!?!? That makes zero sense.
Yes, it’s a good defense. Is it the 85 bears or the Ray Lewis Ravens… not with how they get ran on. They’re good. They play outstanding after halftime. But Generational… Acho is right… they’re inflating their opinions to cut down Brock… what’s new.
Its generational in pure talent but they arent playing that way the past couple games
Lol, yep a "generational" defence that wasn't even the best in any category this season. Ravens and Chiefs had better defences this year than the Niners.
Brocks first half really wasn't that bad. First drive missed field goal, second drive a TD and then his interception. GB had the ball most of the first half, picking apart the 49ers D.
Having this conversation just shows how good purdy actually is & remember ITS HIS FIRST FULL SEASON AS A STARTER😂😂😂
Cmc is the qb of the 9ers.
@@Wartinezzzso that’s why cmc won last year against the eagles when Purdy went down right ? No they didn’t the team crumbled without there quarterback are you slow
@@2rich649 ignore him hes obviously being a troll😂😂 cant take clowns like dat serious
@@kxrtoonz429 Mann sometimes they be gettin under my skin bro 😂😂 I be forgettin
the reason is Purdy had 1 interception and 4 dropped picks in the last 2 games. We saw this through out the season as well. While the drops do not count on the stat sheet, it still shows that the issue has not been fixed
Keep doing you Purdy 😅😂🤷🏾♂️💯
They’ll get it done apparently all the sharp money millionaires betting on 49ers which means GG’s
Joy Taylor is clueless, if she thinks the 9ers' defense is still a top D, she needs to seek medical help. They can't even stop the run anymore. She didn't watch the Packers and Lions games?! As for pass rush, that D-line is massively overrated and overpaid. And that is coming from a 9ers fan. I don't know what the 9ers is going to do with their defense in the offseason, but I can guarantee you there will be a ton of changes.
Number one change will be a change of defensive coordinator. Steve Wilks has the talent there to have a top defence. His schemes obviously aren't working for the team, and he is too slow to make adjustments when things aren't working (such as the Championship game). Detroit lost that game when they decided to stop running the ball. They were running all over them all game, then went away from it.
@@SlipperyEel13 They did try some run blitz after half time which kind of worked, still it was hard to stop Detroit. The other thing is on the other side of the ball, CMC basically ran into a wall, this is the penalty for not spending on the O-line for years. We cannot have a consistent explosive run game if we don't have studs to run-block, our current O-line can only do it against weak D-lines.
Yo, LeSean McCoy, the Niners seem to have found their franchise QB. It only takes one franchise to make a QB, a franchise QB [ie, Daniel Jones]. So when you engage in disingenuous "what if" scenarios, it only exposes how you really feel about Purdy... Bro, just be real and say you don't like him for whatever your reason is.
So Shady's definition of a "Franchise QB" is a QB that you can plug in at ANY TEAM and be successful with? So using that logic, whats the point of having a good HC or OC with a good system then? Does the GM even need to draft/trade for good players to build around their QB? Or it doesn't really matter because their Franchise QB can play with whoever and make it work successfully. I mean, Shady's talking like its a 1 man sport. I thought the definition of a Franchise QB is a QB that the organization believes in and locks him in for at least 5 yrs and builds a team around him so that they can compete for a championship title and a chance to bring home a Lombardi Trophy.
How I know Joy has not watched the 49ers play is she thinks their defense is elite. Their defense has not been the same since week 11 when they lost Hufanga. Up to that point they were ranked 5th DVOA. Since then they have dropped to 22nd - 24th. Their inability to stop the run and get to the passer has been hurting them since week 11.
Exactly. The run defence and inability to put pressure on the QB consistently are a major concern considering how much money they invested in their defensive line.
Kick Lamar out and put Brock Purdy on that Ravens team, MVPURDY beats Mahomes last week.
Purdy would need to beat Mahomes straight up, without the all pros, playing out of the pocket with no all pro weapons,
Shanahan choking, and coming back from being down by +3TDs minimum - to change the conversation.
It’s okay for him to not be considered elite. He has time to prove that with consistency and more wins.
To call him elite waters down the status.
He has to prove to himself he deserves to be considered elite, and I believe we are experiencing it real time - which is AWESOME!
Why did Nick put 4 college QBs in his top 10 tier, who hadn't even played 1 snap in the NFL?
shady did you rush for 100 yards EVERY game you played in..🤔
i DON'T think so, he acts like Brock is supposed too be PERFECT EVERY single game he plays.. CRAZY..
Exactly. These goofs blamed all the 49ers losses and struggles on brock purdy but blamed the eagles struggles on coaching and scheme before jalen hurts, who's been a turnover machine this year, all because of one good season. Make it make sense
@@TheYungSesShowThe reason is shallow, some might even say only skin deep.
Most "analysts" been like that all season long. When the 9ers won, its all because of the weapons. When they lost, its all because of Brock. This is the worst year for sport shows.
They talk about QBs and weapons. Never about offensive lines. The SF O line is great at run blocking and except for Trent, bad at pass protection. Any other QB behind them will need to react fast just to avoid sacks.
They weren't even good at run blocking in that Lions game. Detroit stopped McCaffrey on the LOS so many times.
It’s playoff football defense will win some plays. He had great blocking in that second half. That’s why Purdy broke off those long runs. Stop trying to make 49ers o line out to be bad they are not bad and a part of why Purdy had success this year. Purdy didn’t get hit as much as other QBs by far!
Let's not act like kc doesn't have the best TE and #2 defense in the league. Why is it they act like purdy is the only QB with talent 🤔
he does not.
Not to be a hater, but we havent ever seem Mahomes outside of the "Andy Ried system". Why no one call Mahomes a system QB?
They've never seen Mahomes without star players around him. Mahomes is awesome, he's proven to be one of the best of all time in his relatively short career already...but even this year, when it was considered that KC hasn't had the talent that they have had in previous years, Mahomes still had a good offensive line, an elite TE, excellent WR in Rice, excellent RB in Pacheco, and a top 2 defence. Plus Andy Reid as coach. Could he win if you put him on this years Panthers team? Maybe they win a couple extra games, but he's not taking them to the playoffs, no way.
Because we saw the Andy Reid system without Mahomes and it didnt get things done. Mahomes benefit from the system but he also make it better.
I agree with Acho on this one. My team has gone through so many QBs... Brock Purdy is better than all of them. Shady can say Goff is more talented, but when the heat turned up in the 2nd half, Brock made the plays under pressure and Goff did not. So you can have the more talented argument.
And when they speak of talent, it is purely physical. Because, you know, quarterbacking doesn't involve the intellect or personality of a player.
@@MikeHarvey-ol7xr I'm a black man and I have to admit that you're right. When they say "talent" on this show, they're speaking only of the physical components. And that's what black QBs usually do well with. These analysts aren't considering the mental aspect of talent, which is what black QBs usually struggle with. Purdy is poised under pressure, an excellent processor, has great vision (especially for his height), and is great at orchestrating the offense and putting everybody where they need to be when they're supposed to be there. He has more mental talent than most of the QBs that these analysts are saying has more talent than him.
@@dlt2k7 Thank you for your reply. I agree entirely, but especially with the latter portion about Purdy. The NFL has shown a consistent inability to properly balance the evaluation of raw physical skill against the subtle, but vital, mental aspects of quarterbacking. This is why there are so many colossal 1st rounds busts that were very "talented" and handfuls of "less talented" late rounders that have fantastic careers.
I love the comment that Jared Goff is better than Purdy.
Goff is only better when he has a clean pocket and plenty of time. Throw some pressure at him, or move him off his spot, and his numbers nosedive.
Purdy performs under pressure, or not under pressure. He performs from the pocket, or on the run. He can get out of the pocket to extend the play, or just flat out run for 1st downs.
And the very best thing about Purdy is that dollar-for dollar, he is FAR AND AWAY the best value at QB in the entire league.
And him running for 50 yards and 3 key first down late in the Conference Championship game is definitely gonna have an impact on how defenses will have to game plan for him.
Joy defaults to whatever position LeSean' position is.
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Joy defaults to whatever position LeSean wants her in!
He took a team to the superbowl this is wild asking
Interesting that no one wanted to acknowledge Acho pointing out that "talent" for a QB needs to include the decision making/mental aspect and not just who can win a skills competition. I wonder why
No one wants to acknowledge the football I.Q Purdy has. Dude could hold his own in many NFL teams.
Acho's point that referenced Kurt Warner, about a QB's poise, decision-making, and the other mental qualities, are what's overlooked in these debates about what Purdy brings to the table. I will say that there's one thing that Brock Purdy has, perhaps better than any other QB in the league, and it's his ability to throw with anticipation. He doesn't have tremendous arm talent, but because he can throw it with anticipation and often times, defenses aren't able to get there fast enough to contest the ball. It's why you see Aiyuk and Deebo catching so many in-breaking routes across the middle of the field.
If Brock wins the game in 2 weeks he's no doubt a franchise QB i don't care what these guy's say it doesn't matter about other teams he's the 9ers franchise dude
he is already a franchise QB and any one who says he is not does not watch football and does not know the game. Whether they are a former player or not.
@@davehallock3656 Brock Purdy is our 49ers franchise Qb and he’s playing as great as any elite QBs in the league
@davehallock3656 no he's definitely I'm saying when he wins next Sunday all these guy's can shut up and show this guy some respect
I just LOVE that they have to talk Purdy for two weeks straight 🤣
This is getting ridiculous Goff was basically on the 49ers with the rams and he didn't have it. At this point I think I know where the brock slander is actually coming from and it is the reverse of what shady was eluding to
What do you think it is? Because I have theory as well, but I'd love to hear yours.
@@dlt2k7I have a theory too what’s yours?
@@seanshaw45 I think the media has an investment in Burrow and Allen being great, Herbert and Lawrence as well, but especially Burrow and Allen. If the last pick in the draft comes in and accomplishes what the media darling QBs couldn't, then it shows how wrong the media's evaluation of the sport and position is. It'll show how bad the NFL scouts really are. And it'll show that regardless of how you feel about the media darling QBs, they're not as good as they're portrayed. Purdy is a glitch in the matrix. That's my opinion.
@@dlt2k7 that makes a lot of sense. I have a similar theory but it’s not based on specific players, I think players get overlooked all the time in the draft and come out and eventually can become elite players. But for Purdy it’s different bc he came out and was balling immediately. It’s like a culture shock for the media. They can’t believe this dude is this good so fast. It’s like unfathomable for them. Bc this is the first time in the social media era where a QB came from nowhere and killed all media expectations so fast they grasping at straws. I feel like if Kurt Warner was in this era he’d get the same treatment from the media. Bc those who actually play with him and against know he’s the real deal but the media just can’t believe it
Brock Purdy is Talented and has the TALENT to play QB in the NFL and WIN.
He's proving it.
PERIOD.
Funny how they’re arguing Goff is better overall when at one point everyone was calling him a bust until McVay went to the rams.
Tom Brady didn’t have a great arm nor was he a running QB, so the guy you described as a franchise QB is not Brady.
Joy is talking about this year’s Defense?😂 I’m a niner fan and even I wouldn’t consider our defense super duper good right now 😂.
Our defense under Wilks is not "super duper good". The talent is absolutely there. The schemes are not.
I like that Acho pulled her up on that.
@@punisherhulk yeah you're not wrong. You look at the talent the team has on the defensive line and at linebacker, but we can't seem to stop the run or put constant pressure on the QB. This should be the team's best attribute considering how much money has been spent on this D-line. I have a feeling that even if SF wins the Superbowl, Wilks won't be there next season.
Reminder, niners had the prototype type of player that Jordan Love is in Trey Lance. However he was beat out in the depth chart not only by Purdy but by Darnold. Physical stature, arm talent, and athleticism doesn't compete with putting the ball where it needs to be all the time.
If you can’t read a defense you can’t play football in the nfl
I don’t think any qb can win with no weapons around him. This take is pretty ridiculous.
Bro nobody knows if josh allen or burrow or any other qb can play in any system we haven’t seen it so just cuz u think they can dont mean they can only person we know is mahomes cuz of the offensive talent he has rn😂😂
Shady is always being emotional.😂😂😂😂 It ain't that deep champ.
What talent does Josh Allen have that Brock Purdy does not? Height? That aint enough. Josh Allen doesn't have the decision making that Brock Purdy has. Brock Purdy knows when to take a sack. Two of Brocks best plays in the NFCCG were taking back to back sacks in field goal range with the game on the line.
It blows my mind that people think Mahomes can go to any team and perform. You've got to be seriously delusional if Mahomes balls out WITHOUT having a super star receiver to throw to. No QB balls out without talent around them. Russell Wilson is a prime example. When Marshawn Lynch retired Wilson tapered off.
Let's judge fairly shady. If that's the case then your saying Mahomes can go to the Bears or the Panthers and lead team to a Superbowl and we all know he can't win without talent as well. We all seen Mahomes struggle week 1 without Kelce so he's definitely not going to take ANY team to a championship, we can say Mahomes lucked up by going to the Andy Reid led Chiefs 🤔
Yup and let's not forget the Chiefs defense has bailed him out more than once this season
Fact: no amount of "talent" is going to make up for the bonehead decision that Love made at the end of the playoff game. Purdy could've thrown up an absolute prayer like Jordan did on his game winning drive, but he didn't.
They chalk that Love throw as "inexperience" or a "rookie error". They forget that he has been in the NFL two years longer than Brock Purdy, and has been able to sit and learn from one of the greatest QBs of all time...whereas Brock is supposed to play like a 10-year vet after being thrown into the starting role halfway through last year after beginning the season as the 3rd-string QB.
Purdy has the head and the heart of a champion.
Wilks isn’t Saleh, and it’s shown in this past year with how our defense has ran. In case people forgot, Saleh as a DC was RELENTLESS with our defense. If we had THAT Niners defense with the current offense, we would’ve went undefeated this season honestly. Never have I seen Kyle comfortable enough to let his QB throw the ball like he has this year, and don’t compare Jimmy to Brock.
Comparing the 49ers defense when jimmy went to the SB to the defense now is asinine 😬
Trey Lance is as Physically Talented as Jordan Love. He's as Physically gifted as any QB in the league. So, when Shady says "I've seen that..." Brett Favre, Tony Romo, Dak Prescott, etc. You know what they taught me? QBs who make bad decisions in key moments still make bad Decisions in key moments no matter how much more experience they gain. Decision making isn't just an intangible. It's a Talent.
Thinking, or playing IQ, is a large part of the reason for greatness of a player across all sports. They say that Wayne Gretzky could see a few steps ahead of any other player. o
Chris Long calls Purdy the "game executive." Perfect 😂🤣 o
I don't think Mahomes, Allen, or Burrow would have the same success with any team they were put on either. You have to be a good fit for a team.
Imagine beating out TWO first round picks (Lance, Darnold) with the latter starting for two different teams the other getting kicked to Dallas. Brock goes to TWO nfc champ games and now a superbowl his 2nd year AFTER an injury to have these clowns say hes barely a franchise QB. Acho said only 12 teams look Brock beat Brady his first full game, Baker, Goff, Love, Stafford, Tua, Dak, Hurts, Carr, Gino with the worst Oline in the league. Then these people sit up here and say Brock Purdy is only good in this offense??? The most difficult Offense to learn right...My people need to do better this looking like some other kind of hate. Brock Purdy could win on any team if that front office built around him.
Shady needs to consider the O-line as well as the skill position players. Apart from Trent the O-line is bottom 3rd in pass protection and even including when Brock is pressured quickly, he has had the best air yards per attempts and the highest % of completed 10+ and 20+ passes this season.
Plus the rush game. Everyone’s all “but CMC is” yeah so long as he’s not asked to run to the right side of the o line. The stats are hilarious, looks like two different players. And if he wasn’t CMC, those numbers would be even worse on the right side
Lamar cannot start for any team. He's struggling within his own team and they have a TOP 5 LINE & TOP 5 DEFENSE
Acho what you said about what Kurt Warner tweeted about Purdy is spot on 100%. Talent is not just size strength and speed, INSTINCTS PLAYMAKING KNOWLEDGE are some of my favorite TALENTS.
Shady you said if teams were drafting QBs right now Purdy would go 18th, wow just lost credibility 🤦♂️
He probably would go 18th. And then he'd lead THAT team to a SB as well.
@@SlipperyEel13 How many QBs right now are better than Purdy?
@@sportsavant2937 right now? Not many. But teams just love to go for the physical attributes when drafting, and even with Purdy's fantastic play in his career so far they would still find excuses not to draft him.
Jimmy G in his super bowl run generated 29% of the 49ers offensive Yards, Brock generated over 70% of the yards this year, so dont say they are the same.
11:04 LeSean and James got schooled trying to say Jordan Love is more talented as a QB. What Kurt Warner said is 100% on point and makes these non QB ex players look dumb when they talk about the QB position.
And Shady said he didn't care what Kurt said. I was like, wtf?
@@dice138 Yup he changed the subject fast haha
Because there are a lot of factors to decision making and coaching/ gameplan and the talent around you can affect your decision making positively or negatively. If I can hit my check down all the way down the field then my decision making is not tested to the highest level. Once we see a guy under duress and WRs not wide open how would your decision making look then? Brock Purdy had some good plays but his best plays were the ones when he ran in the second half those were big plays, but he was out played by Goff for the majority of the game. Jordan love had a better game for 3 quarters.
@@victorfletcher4188 Talent around Purdy?? Tell that to his surgically repaired throwing arm due to his untalented pass blocking O-line around him. My honest opinion, what you said was a very uninformed statement and you are making a lot of false assumptions. Literally last week for example, how many plays had nothing there, open player wise or due to a collapsed pocket. The kid has to live in play action just to not get smashed. Every game Purdy has to overcome a bad pass blocking O-line (one good player Trent W.) and Shanahan’s weak to average at best drop back pass schemes, that either often fail all together, have no open players or checkdown for whatever reason (not that Purdy throws many checkdowns anyway). I could go on all day about this, but I don’t see the point when to me it seems obvious that you do not watch the actual all 22 film. Go flip on any of JT O’Sullivan’s weekly Purdy breakdowns this season to see what I’m talking about.
@@troy8231 I have watched all of their games bro he has barely been touched this season and CMC carried this team
Do a blind qb stats test from this year and have them rank them best to worse. Brock Purdy would be a lot higher on their list🤷♂️Would be eye opening for them
Purdy’s decision-making is right there with the best of them. So is his anticipation on route breaks and courage to take a hit to deliver a pass. His runs end in dives for extra yds, not safe slides. You don’t need to be Mahomes to win the S Bowl. He’s definitely good enough to lead San Fran to victory
Respect to all 4 of y’all man you guys are getting better and better with every episode as an Eagles fan Shady makes us feel part of the show😂😂😂
I don’t think Patrick Mahome go to the panthers and takes them to playoffs neither
to be fair this niners defense has been the worst under kyles tenure
Think about it....Brock is only 23 and he's won his first NFL NFC Championship...and he's surpassed Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson already and he and Joe Burrow have entered a SuperBowl. That's quite an accomplishment. 🎉🎉🎉
His workload is less than those two combined
Andy Reid didn’t win a thing UNTIL he got Patrick Mahomes. He was the Eagles coach for 14 years and lost 4 of 5 NFC championship games.
Why is this even a conversation?
Actually this entire conversation is moot: when we discuss Brock Purdy's franchise worthiness are we actually discussing The San Francisco 49ers franchise. I think we should call a QB who can perform well on 20+ teams a " League QB".
Former players at non QB positions always value physical talent, because physical talent is what makes the largest difference at the positions they played. But at the QB position, your mental aptitude for the game outshines pure physical ability at times. I hate when dudes say weird things like Kyler Murray is more talented than Purdy. All those game ending picks say he’s not. They gotta start focusing on what actually plays out on the field instead of the playground.
Shady is screaming that there is ONLY ONE kind of franchise QB.
His kind.
Since these clowns like to play “what if’s”…
What if James didn’t play with such a great qb?
What if Shady played his career in Cleveland?
What if Joy Taylor didn’t have a brother who played football?
😂😂😂
Then we’d have Acho, Marcellus, Dan, and TJ on the show😂
That last what if 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He proved he is a franchise QB on a great team like the 49ers you put him on the Panthers hes out of the league in 2 years ....But hes average at the end of the day ....
Mahomes couldn't salvage the Panthers season. Fukumean??
Purdy is a top 10 QB plain & simple. Watch the film.
Stop thinking of him as the last pick in the draft & judge him by his tape.
His first 2 seasons equals 2 NFCCGs & a SB appearance (win?).
Don't see how that's considered "average?"🤔
Facts, Purdy in same category as Garropalo. They said the same thing about Jimmy when the 9ers paid him all that money. Jimmy took them to superbowl too
nonsense. watch a tape instead of playing madden
@@bepohal You watch tape and stop being a fan meat riding BOY
@@ezmoney1896 49ers fans worship him when CMac Debo Kittles Trent Williams are all better than their game manager QB average at best ...
Comparing Purdy’s playoff runs vs Jimmy G’s is simply ridiculous. You’re not watching the games beyond your prejudices, then: you’re a 🤡 Shady
He’s 24 in his first full season as a starter. The fact that he’s even in this conversation shows how good he is. Maybe he’s not a franchise quarterback right now but who’s to say he can’t get there. We’ve seen nothing to suggest he won’t continue to grow and improve. All I know is I’m happy he’s my QB and can’t wait to see how he continues to grow.
Brock is a good quarterback but he's not an elite franchise quarterback.
As a Proud Jimmy G Hater, I don’t think Brock would sell a Super Bowl the way Corn Star Jimmy did😅 9er fans are in safer hands
@@Kevin.Costner.lmfao WELL SAID BRO!
There are very few “Elite” quarterbacks. Only about 5 or 6 max. I think Brock is a franchise quarterback. Just not elite yet.
This is my question what is it that make you believe that he’s not a elite franchise quarterback for the 49ers for years to come cause all the talent he got around him and y’all believe he’s getting carried by the offense around him the only reason why he’s not a franchise quarterback? but during the fourth quarter he basically lead that team and a lot of clutch moments in the playoffs but that’s not elite to y’all, but y’all consider guys like Prescott to be elite quarterback in the regular season, but when the playoffs come around all of a sudden hes a no show same thing with Josh Allen, and same thing with Lamar. I’m just being honest not saying they are all ain’t no franchise quarterbacks for their teams but what Brock is doing for the first two years specially as the last pick of the draft is pretty elite if you asked me 🤷🏾♂️💯
Joy Taylor hates Brock so much 😂😂
I don't think any of these commentators hate him. I just think they are confused by him. He doesn't look like what they expect a great QB to look like. He wasn't drafted high. He doesn't have a big arm. He isn't tall. He doesn't have big hands. He's not great with his legs (although we saw that's not the case last weekend). They have been waiting and waiting for Purdy to show why he was the last pick in the draft, but so far he hasn't really done that. They also forget he's basically still a rookie, who has had his first full season as a starter this season.
Big time players make big time plays in big time games and under big time pressure, James Jones
Brock Purdy's secret weapons are his brains and his leadership....his leadership makes players want to play better. Brock is now an All Pro. He is a franchise Quarterback. Also, this is a stupid question. It is a no brainer. What makes a franchise quarterback??? WINNING!!! WINNING PEOPLE!!! WINNING!!! Brock WINS!!!! What owner would not want Brock....he wins. He could possibly get that team in the SuperBowl. That's how NFL owners think!!! Come On Now!🎉🎉🎉
The fact that it's even a question is crazy!
1st year NFC champion game
2nd year super bowl
And broke records along the way.
What's the question?
Aparrently the question is "Does he look like you expect a QB to look like?" and "Where was he drafted?"
Franchise QB doesn't necessarily equal All-Time Great or HOF player (like Mahomes and what many believe Allen and Burrow are/will be). Some of these hosts are making the terms interchangeable when they are not.
Shady just needs to come out & say he hate the 49ers because nothing he says makes sense
Appreciate the discussion today, it's helpful when analysts aren't letting their "hate" for Brock cloud their analysis. JJ had an amazing show today!
JJ is ok as long as you don't talk anything negative (even if its truth) about Packer's players and "Coach Mike".😂😂😂
I am a niners fan and think Purdy is my qb for the next 10 years. These shows have to hate on him because it makes us come back to watch. It works and I enjoy the banter, but at the end of the day, almost all Super Bowl teams had generational talent at some spot. Just like Jordan had Pippen and Rodman. Montana had rice, Lott, Craig, Taylor, etc. Steve young had Jerry, Deion, Brent jones, etc. aikman had a legendary team with Emmitt, all world linemen in Larry Allen and Nate newton, Deion, and Irvin. Mahomes had kelce, the cheetah, and a hall of fame coach too…
Based on Shadys criteria, Lamar isn't a franchise QB neither is Jalen Hurts.
Also, in 2019 playoff run Jimmy G accounted for < 30% of the teams offense. In this 2023 playoff run for the Niners, Purdy has accounted for > 70%. So Shady is being disingenuous with his "I've seen this before with Jimmy G"
Worst part about this was them saying the niners defense is generational. What games are you watching? Are you looking at the stats either? They haven't been anywhere close. Thank god they got CMC and Purdy or this defense would have let the team down weeks ago.
All this talk about system QB is ridiculous. A good coach designs a game plan around the players he has. For example, Lamar Jackson due to his gifted ability to run has a specific RPO system designed around his skills, and Joe Burrow being a pocket passer has an offense designed around his skills. Does that make them system QBs?
QBs should be judged by their ability to execute around the scheme and system that they are given. This is exactly what Brock Purdy has done which has gotten the Niners to the SB. Something Lamar and Josh Allen haven’t been able to accomplish. Do you still think he is a system QB?