Yes. It's easy to believe his half moon glasses are just plain lenses. Those in the room on the up conveyor belt fawning, the one on the way out and the one already gone barely hiding their contempt. Utterly believable scenario where the ambitious oust the competent yet again.
the more I read le Carré (I've just finished the Honourable Schoolboy) the more his subtle contempt for the systems of power come through... I'm onto Smileys People next - can't wait!@@user-ph8zs6xt8y
Yes , for some reason he never became a " household name " despite his talent and good looks . His Kaiser Wilhelm in Fall Of Eagles was superb as was his role in Frenzy . But somehow his career slowly faded ....?
Shame we don't have the scene where George blanks Enderby's outstretched hand...and then warmly shakes the hand of a lowly old Circus retainer. Shows so much with so little, and is hilarious.
There's a lot of little things like that throughout Tinker Tailor and Smiley's People. His silence in response to a question says more than anything else.
Just my opinion, The best scene from both series was when Smiley interrogated Toby Esterhase in the upstairs safe house. Amazing acting on all of their parts. "You must have led a dogs life Toby, running between them all "
I noticed right away that the heads of the circus are usually depicted as beneath Smiley intellectually and come off immature compared to him. They can also come off as assholes, Jerks, or just dumb asses next to Smiley. Percy Adeline, and the head in this series come off bad. Only Control in the beginning of Tinker Tailor comes off equal to Smiley out of all of them.
Well both Percy and Saul ultimately got the job the same way, sucking up to the right government types. Under Percy the Circus became a glorified extention of Moscow Centre and Saul waited until George had put out all the fires from Percy's tenure, then had him ousted and claimed the credit for all George's hard work. Indeed save Control and Smiley himself, the Chiefs are rarely overburdened with ability at their job.
This is a comment on the British army as a whole. Incompetents get promoted high enough that they are not involved in the actual work. The sergeants, experienced soldiers, run the British army, always did, the officers were from the upper class and were just figureheads.
@@pato2200 I just came to realize something that was there all along. Just like Bill Haydon John LeCarre also hated America. It took me long enough to realize that.
@humbleradio--Right, but George Smiley had that job briefly, after Percy and prior to Enderby. The events of "The Honourable Schoolboy" cover that period. Enderby is quite the talented bureaucratic knife-fighter; events from that book really add a layer to this scene.
He quite plainly thinks that (except about Control in the whole Karla saga (books) - and Alec Guinness is master supreme in the part. Pne of the greatest British actors ever, and the Brits surely have a score of them-
Like most on the left of British politics he could barely conceal his admiration of Karla . Compared with his contempt for " ordinary " British people . They had the temerity to ignore their betters and vote for Brexit.....Remainer s still haven't recovered from the blow !!
Yeah, I assume so. I have the book but never got around to reading it. And here I am in Asia/HK too! ;) Saul doesn't come across as incompetent to me here at all. Just pompous and condescending, not to mention a bit chauvinistic with Molly (though it may be mutual).
Lol. Boy, I really messed that up, didn't I? First spelling it Sol, then mixing up the circus w/ the security mob. Doh! You'd never know I had a connection to the biz. Then again, village idiot is great cover. ;) Cheers.
Michael Bryant - Michael Jayston was not available, sadly. Bryant did well, however. His scene in the car where Smiley tells him he's acting alone is superb...
Recently watched an episode of Morse and saw Saul (Barry Foster), as an Oxford Don get murdered while having an affair with a student. Actually, he was off to the kitchen to get ice for drinks, if memory serves. But gets shot in the back.
Methinks it would also be useful if it were presented serially, with progressive numbers, so as to avoid countless headaches in putting them in consecutiver order basing oneselkf on the titles only. It has been done on YT with the "Jeeves and Wooster series", for example. Much better it would be, that it be done as "full movie".This, also, has been done with films 2+-hr-long. Why, oh WHY nobody has the guts to do it??!!! :-)
@@badpharma461 Lol! My ten year old comment got a reply...finally! Yes, indeed. How could I make such a careless mistake? Yes, MI5 is the Brit equivalent of the FBI and NSA combined, security and domestic intelligence, MI6 (now SIS) is the equivalent of the American CIA/DIA/NRO/ONI/AFISRA...etc. Foreign Intelligence.
No he was 5, 6 is known as the firm and 5 is the circus because Bertram mills son of mills circus fame worked as an agent handler during the xx operation of ww2
@@charlesdaddy5946 yes it's left pretty fluid and I know 5 get considered very square and lacking imagination. 6 consider themselves worldly wise and sophisticated
@@robdean704 incorrect. He is MI6. I don’t know if you are a Londoner. The old HQ was at Cambridge Circus. All of Smiley’s operations are overseas. This is MI6 function. Not MI5.
40 years after it was broadcast this remains the second greatest TV series ever. Tinker Tailor nudges it from top place, IMO.
Superb performance by Barry Foster, captures the smug, duplicitous character of Saul Enderby perfectly.
absolutely - that detached, entitled insouciance that only the truly privileged can exude.. Foster nails that 100%.
Yes. It's easy to believe his half moon glasses are just plain lenses.
Those in the room on the up conveyor belt fawning, the one on the way out and the one already gone barely hiding their contempt.
Utterly believable scenario where the ambitious oust the competent yet again.
the more I read le Carré (I've just finished the Honourable Schoolboy) the more his subtle contempt for the systems of power come through... I'm onto Smileys People next - can't wait!@@user-ph8zs6xt8y
Yes , for some reason he never
became a " household name "
despite his talent and good looks .
His Kaiser Wilhelm in Fall Of Eagles was superb as was his
role in Frenzy . But somehow his career slowly faded ....?
@@2msvalkyrie529 he was a household name when van der valk was popular.
Shame we don't have the scene where George blanks Enderby's outstretched hand...and then warmly shakes the hand of a lowly old Circus retainer. Shows so much with so little, and is hilarious.
There's a lot of little things like that throughout Tinker Tailor and Smiley's People. His silence in response to a question says more than anything else.
One of the best scenes from the series.
Just my opinion, The best scene from both series was when Smiley interrogated Toby Esterhase in the upstairs safe house. Amazing acting on all of their parts.
"You must have led a dogs life Toby, running between them all "
Let yourself go, have a scaatch!
You can just feel the loathing that Smiley is feeling as he forces himself to endure this Sir Saul performance.
I like the way the pompous fool Strickland is reduced to getting drinks for everyone.
"Omit the reference to the unspeakable vice of the Greeks..."
I noticed right away that the heads of the circus are usually depicted as beneath Smiley intellectually and come off immature compared to him. They can also come off as assholes, Jerks, or just dumb asses next to Smiley. Percy Adeline, and the head in this series come off bad. Only Control in the beginning of Tinker Tailor comes off equal to Smiley out of all of them.
Correct , apart from it was Percy Alaline.
Well both Percy and Saul ultimately got the job the same way, sucking up to the right government types.
Under Percy the Circus became a glorified extention of Moscow Centre and Saul waited until George had put out all the fires from Percy's tenure, then had him ousted and claimed the credit for all George's hard work.
Indeed save Control and Smiley himself, the Chiefs are rarely overburdened with ability at their job.
What a crock of shit, are you American by any chance?
This is a comment on the British army as a whole. Incompetents get promoted high enough that they are not involved in the actual work.
The sergeants, experienced soldiers, run the British army, always did, the officers were from the upper class and were just figureheads.
@@pato2200 I just came to realize something that was there all along. Just like Bill Haydon John LeCarre also hated America. It took me long enough to realize that.
@humbleradio--Right, but George Smiley had that job briefly, after Percy and prior to Enderby. The events of "The Honourable Schoolboy" cover that period. Enderby is quite the talented bureaucratic knife-fighter; events from that book really add a layer to this scene.
Absolute tour de force
He quite plainly thinks that (except about Control in the whole Karla saga (books) - and Alec Guinness is master supreme in the part. Pne of the greatest British actors ever, and the Brits surely have a score of them-
Like most on the left of British politics he could barely conceal his admiration of Karla . Compared with his contempt for " ordinary "
British people . They had the temerity to ignore their betters and vote for Brexit.....Remainer s still haven't recovered from the blow !!
Watch Smiley thinking, "THIS is the clown that took my job?" (At the end of "The Honourable Schoolboy")
Probably took his wife too .?
Which one's the Clown...?
Yeah, I assume so. I have the book but never got around to reading it. And here I am in Asia/HK too! ;) Saul doesn't come across as incompetent to me here at all. Just pompous and condescending, not to mention a bit chauvinistic with Molly (though it may be mutual).
No, you're not wrong. I had a major brain fart. ;) Next thing you know, I'll be calling Bletchley Park 'Station Y'. ;) Cheers.
Lol. Boy, I really messed that up, didn't I? First spelling it Sol, then mixing up the circus w/ the security mob. Doh! You'd never know I had a connection to the biz. Then again, village idiot is great cover. ;) Cheers.
What's the name of the actor playing Peter Guillaum in this - he was in Sharpe later, looking no older. Or perhaps n this he looks no younger
Michael Bryant - Michael Jayston was not available, sadly. Bryant did well, however. His scene in the car where Smiley tells him he's acting alone is superb...
One of the SP locations we don't know. It is London, it isn't a studio.
Recently watched an episode of Morse and saw Saul (Barry Foster), as an Oxford Don get murdered while having an affair with a student. Actually, he was off to the kitchen to get ice for drinks, if memory serves. But gets shot in the back.
Methinks it would also be useful if it were presented serially, with progressive numbers, so as to avoid countless headaches in putting them in consecutiver order basing oneselkf on the titles only. It has been done on YT with the "Jeeves and Wooster series", for example. Much better it would be, that it be done as "full movie".This, also, has been done with films 2+-hr-long. Why, oh WHY nobody has the guts to do it??!!! :-)
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is the entire Smiley's People there on CZcams?
Yes on BBC
@@pds617 I checked the BBC's channel, you can buy them but there doesn't seem to be any comments allowed.
Yes . Radio version . ! More demanding for those with low attention span .! But equally good.
It's all there on daily motion
@@pato2200I find that adverts and things get in the way. Internet Archive has it but they're always the edited versions.
@craigkbryant actually Sol is in charge of MI5, he took Control/Percy's spot.
MI5 is The Security Service, Mi6 (SIS) is 'The Circus'.
@@badpharma461 Lol! My ten year old comment got a reply...finally! Yes, indeed. How could I make such a careless mistake? Yes, MI5 is the Brit equivalent of the FBI and NSA combined, security and domestic intelligence, MI6 (now SIS) is the equivalent of the American CIA/DIA/NRO/ONI/AFISRA...etc. Foreign Intelligence.
I was under the impression Smiley's service was MI-6, not -5. Maybe I'm wrong.
No he was 5, 6 is known as the firm and 5 is the circus because Bertram mills son of mills circus fame worked as an agent handler during the xx operation of ww2
@@charlesdaddy5946 yes it's left pretty fluid and I know 5 get considered very square and lacking imagination. 6 consider themselves worldly wise and sophisticated
@@robdean704 incorrect. He is MI6. I don’t know if you are a Londoner. The old HQ was at Cambridge Circus. All of Smiley’s operations are overseas. This is MI6 function. Not MI5.
MI6 operates overseas intelligence, MI5 is within Britain. Though they overlap to some extent I'm sure.
@@robdean704 bullshit. MI5 is domestic, this is international hence MI6
Really dislike that desk light. Very distracting. Nothing to do with the story, mind you, but just thought I'd mention it.
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Control said he fired someone and tried to sell him to the BBC. Who is he talking about and what's the meaning of selling him to the BBC?
Nigel Mostyn. The service and the BBC are both parts of the civil service so there might be some transfer
@@chrisst8922 mystery solved. Thank you
So whyhave youtube turned down the volume answer so they can sell the Gary old man crap version
Is he? He's part of the 'security mob'? I always thought he was the interim head of MI5 post Percy. No?