The Meeting of Queen Elizabeth II and Margaret Thatcher | The Crown (Olivia Colman,Gillian Anderson)
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- In a captivating encounter, my dears, Queen Elizabeth II (Olivia Colman) and Margaret Thatcher (Gillian Anderson) engage in a dialogue of historical weight. They delve into significant matters, including the apartheid policies in South Africa.
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🎬The Crown (2016-2023): Follows the political rivalries and romance of Queen Elizabeth II's reign and the events that shaped the second half of the 20th century.
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Prefer her as Dana Scully.
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@@deadandburied7626 She's frighteningly good as Thatcher. Top flight acting.
The line "let us not forget that, of the two of us, I am the one from a small street in an irrelevant town" always struck me.
most neoliberals see themselves as underdogs
Me as well. A nice reminder that it's pretty easy to throw your opinions around and claim to be compassionate when you've lived a life of wealth and luxury all your life.
@@matthewreichlin4993Well…we could also say that it is easy for one to claim to be “rational”, “unemotional” and “resilient” when one is talented, and comfortable enough to not have gone through emotional challenges or traumas in life.
@@wengkenmak3626 true. But those claims are going to be looked on rather suspiciously by your average person
@@wengkenmak3626 people who haven't gone thru challenges in life are not considered unemotional and resilient. Usually, people who had affluent upbringings are rather soft.
I absolutely love this scene!!! Gillian Anderson deserved that Emmy for this role!
She deserves her own series 11 seasons
I totally agree with you ❤
Absolutely 👍
She won an Emmy for this role!
She is portraying a conservative character fairly accurately in terms of conservative ideology (capitalism, self reliance, anti-woke), Hollywood isnt crazy to reward that role.
Gillian Anderson WON the Emmy, Golden Globe and SAG awards with this speech. So brilliant
The way this version of Margaret asserts herself is so subtle yet powerful. She revealed she’s older by 6months which can almost be a suggestive leading to her being more experienced if not at all more capable than the queen however she keeps her banter more respectful despite her dominating the conversation. There’s a lot of powerful body language here.
Exactly. You put it perfectly. It really is such a scene. Couldn't move my eyes away from it.
I don’t think she was being subtle at all.
Subtle, she didn't know the meaning of the word!
Was she really older?
QE asked which was the senior. Thatcher’s response was “I am…..now”. This implies she is chronically the queen’s junior, but politically her senior since becoming PM.
@@57_Triumphshe said: “I am, ma’am.”, not now. Margret thatcher was born on October 13, 1925. While The Queen was born on April 21, 1926. Thatcher was, indeed, the Queen’s senior by six months.
Gillian Anderson was beyond amazing. I was blown away at her acting job.
she is too stiff in my opinion. Meryl Streep was the better Thatcher
I'm honestly a big fan of Gillian Anderson, but her portrayal of Thatcher really is the worst thing she's ever done.
@@Kwippymost of the comment section doesn’t agree with you.
@@gaguy1967she still did a remarkable job.
@@Kwippyyou're repeating again and again the same under many comments which suggests that there must be about something else rather than her acting skills in this particular portrait
I'm very embarrassed to say that I had no idea Gillian Anderson could act this good. She absolutely steals the room and Colman is no girl scout when it comes to acting. I sort of wish it was Helen Mirren in the role of Elizabeth II here, just to see her digest the ice coming from Thatcher. Amazing performance.
She is far better than anyone who played Margaret Thatcher.
@@nicholasdickens2801 didnt Meryl Streep play the Iron Lady? I can’t imagine it being better than this. Soooooo good
@@BlackBarney She did, but @nicholasdickens2801 is right.
@BlackBarney I don't think X Files gave Ms. Anderson much room to demonstrate her abilities.
Also; we seem to all agree here. She did a great job which means the way you do Maggie is to be a bitch.
I remember those days. Trump is detestable but not half as detestable as Maggie.
@@BlackBarney, Anderson is actually better in this role. Shows these actresses that gripe there are "no good roles out there." There are good roles. For talented actors.
Olivia Coleman is absolutely an amazing actress and in this scene she certainly drives that home. However, Gillian Anderson’s performance blew me away!
Fantastic acting by both!
This is by far the best scene I ever watched in my entire life and believe you me, I have watched thousands of them. Exceptional acting from both actresses. Very well done!
Her posture during her curtsy projected strength and set the tone for this scene; it was a bit intimidating. She had no fear of the queen. She saw them, in that moment, as equals. What a scene!
Lol😅😅😅 as equal to the Queen? Do you really think Thatcher can wage a war against Argentina with out the approval of the Monarch?
lol she in fact did
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@@addarsulawal lol🤣🤣🤣 The Falklands Conflict did not involve a declaration of war. Argentina made a, cowardly, unprovoked attack on the Falkland Islands, without war declaration. Britain engaged in a purely police action to expel the invaders.
Britain did not attack Argentina at any point.
lol. substance over form, my man. will you tell me that sinking the Belgrano was not an act of war?@@himbisaquatics
@@addarsulawal conflict is different from state of war, On 2 April, Argentina invaded and occupied the British dependent territory of the Falkland Islands, and they took the neighbouring island of South Georgia the following day. However, neither Britain nor Argentina declared a state of war at any point, meaning the conflict remained, officially, an 'undeclared war'.
This whole scene is epic. The acting, the body language, the subtle admonishings, all of it just astounding
I had no idea Gillian Anderson did this. She was superb. They were both superb.
I know we all imagine Claire Foy as Elizabeth in the role of the Queen, but Olivia Colman knocked it out of the park in portraying an Elizabeth in her prime. You can see how comfortable she is in the role as Queen, but she also captures the continuing uncertainty that Elizabeth felt as a person, an uncertainty that we all experience.
I think there are many women we can imagine as the Queen. Helen Mirren being the most obvious outside The Crown. Jeanette Charles didn’t do that much acting but boy was she the perfect doppelgänger. She’s terrific in the Naked Gun and European Vacation.
They were both awesome
OceanHedgehog... No offense to the immensely talented Olivia Coleman but I still think they simply could have aged Claire Foy and Matt Smith instead. Any good makeup artist could have made that work.
Ms Andersons performance was simply stunning, I found myself hanging on every word it gave me goose bumps.
Gillian Anderson does a much better job of portraying Magareth Thatcher than the more illustrious Meryl Streep. The real Thatcher was feared by everyone around her, and with good reason.
Well said. Streep didn't do justice to Thatcher whereas Andersen did.
@@warrennicholsony.fernando4513 Well Streep portrayed Thatcher after she had become mentally incapacitated
@@sgabig That's why I said Streep didn't do justice in her portrayal.
Meryl Streep is a far left political activist, she didnt think much of Thatcher as a leader or politician, neither did the movie makers. It showed in her acting.
@@sheehan92 Clearly it didnt show in her acting, considering that she was critically acclaimed for her portrayal of Thatcher and nominated for an oscar for best actress.
Olivia Coleman is Great! But Miss Gillian dominated this scene!!! What a Great performance!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
This gave me chills, Gillian Anderson absolutely nailed it. The voice, the hair, the body language.
I have great admiration for both the players in this scene, in my humble opinion this was performed on a par with the greatest Hollywood performances of Katherine Hepburn and Bette Davis. Olivia Coleman, even though she is playing The Queen, thankfully has the security in herself to allow Gillian Anderson to, rightly so, run through this entire scene with a bayonet. There has been few occasions in all the time I have been in an audience where I have found the acting as exciting and as virtuosic as what Gillian Anderson gave us in her time as Margaret Thatcher.
Wow, what an actress. Now I'll admit her accent was more in the spirit of Thatcher a lot of the time, but she nailed the pronounciation of 'money' and the pacing of Thatcher perfectly and delivered that line so well.
Two actresses over the age of 40, not dressed in skin-tight costumes or sexually objectified in any way, and neither of whom are crying, screaming, or talking about the men in their lives, in a scene all by themselves... could we have more movies and TV shows of this nature?
What the hell are you talking about? It is the queen and Margaret thatcher, not the freaking Kardashians.
Yes, we could if someone was brave enough to write it, if someone was brave enough to commission it, and if it was so good people clamoured for more.
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Are you kidding? We don’t have any sex on television now. No glamour or romance. Everything is gritty, ugly, and depressing. Nothing is about love or passion or sex or glamour. I have to go to the 20th century for that. So not to worry.
That being said, Gillian Anderson is a very beautiful woman. Very glamorous. And very talented. Both of these women are incredible.
@@ParadiseVids Watch pop music videos of today and compare them to pop music videos of the 80s and 90s. It's gone from people singing into a camera to soft core porn. That's where your sex is.
Anderson was Off-The-Charts good here. We feel everything she has intended to convey. I'm deeply moved, and impressed.
Me, too, I don't have a father who could bequeath me a title or a commonwealth. But from him I learned about hard work, discipline and the ability to achieve any dream his son could dream.
Gillian Anderson's portrayal of Maggie Thatcher was so frighteningly aacurate it gave me shivers.
Streep did it better.
How would you know
Anderson was good in this role and deserved the win, but she was hardly the best one to play Margaret Thatcher… Her performance showed no growth in the entire season, as in she seemed frail and grumpy in the entire decade of her tenure… Meryl Streep captured Thatcher perfectly as she gradually aged in the movie…
Her portrayal of the real Margaret Thatcher wasn’t accurate at all. It was a backhanded characterization that does nothing but smear her legacy. The real Misses Thatcher wasn’t anywhere near that cold blooded and wooden. CZcams is full of the real person and she is the antithesis of this portrayal.
@@chrisjenkins9978 l disagree.
Queen was probably thinking to say, 'I wonder if you might be in need of an nice vacation, I hear the tower of London is lovely this time of year.'
Yes! ...Off with her Head! ...Thatcher was rude and overbearing as PM.
Indeed. One became 'unprecedentedly close' to be sent to that lock-up.
Henry VIII would have had her head removed for such rudeness to the crown.
The Crown has now 5 seasons and this is my favorite 5 minutes of the whole thing.
Both Olivia Coleman and Gillian Anderson were great- 2 very tough women going head-to-head- one could cut the tension with a knife! Great scene!
"And who's the senior?"
"I am, ma'am."
I’ve met Mrs Thatcher. She was my MP. When she was around you could feel her sense of authority like a physical force around her.
calm down garry son
I'm sorry you had to endure that kind of evil in your presence.
I wish more leaders today could give that sense of authority. Joe Biden is the radical opposite of authority.
@@DominicNJ73😂😂😂
These 2 together... how could it get better? Magnetic performances from both!
Brilliant - what a Lady Thatcher was, & Gillian deserves an Oscar for this performance - well done 😊
Wow, kinda blown away by Gillian’s acting especially her vocal capabilities!
Of all the portrayals I've seen of Mrs. Thatcher, this one by Gillian Anderson captures her essence the best. With an honorable mention to Andrea Riseborough in The Long Walk to Finchley.
Sorry, but Meryl Streep's was the greater performance
@@splinterbyrd Ms. Streep is a great actress and did a superb performance, especially with Mrs. Thatcher's accent. However, the other two actresses did a more authentic rendition of their subject.
Meryl Streep nailed it
Things even worse.
Anderson was good in this role, but she was hardly the best one to play Margaret Thatcher… Her performance showed no growth in the entire season as the character aged, she seemed frail and grumpy in the entire decade of her tenure… Meryl Streep captured Thatcher perfectly as she gradually aged in the movie… Also, I feel Colman as Queen Elizabeth was better in this scene than Anderson as Thatcher…
Gillian does a brilliant job at portraying Thatcher. Hats off to her.
The Crown what an amazing and interesting production. The whole cast is top notch. I love this series.
I am very glad for Gillian Anderson. She was a beautiful young woman and classy lady today, it's comforting to see her getting good roles.
Wonderful performances, and a brilliant scene.
That was an amazing confrontation. The performances were both dramatic and believable.
It is wholly implausible and almost none of it would actually have happened. The Queen would never speak to, or be spoken to by, her PM like that. Utter nonsense.
@@garymitchell5899 genuine question how do you know that?
@@gaddyfree1085 Oh, I don't know. Only a lifetime of living in the UK and observing the Queen and politicians such as Mrs Thatcher. Utter nonsense.
@@garymitchell5899 thanks 😊
You weren't in a room with any of them, nor has any private conversation been made public. So it is very likely a conversation of this nature actually did happen.@@garymitchell5899
Great work Netflix!
Wonderful plot, actors, directors, makeup, dressing department, all the staff.
I’m so happy to see all these series!!!!
Congratulations!!!
Excellent and extraordinary job!!!
Kisses and gratitude from Buenos Aires, Argentina!
Maurice
Gillian Anderson is a total legend. She's my generations Merryl Streep. Great in almost everything she does
I hope this is how the conversation went down! Maggie was spot on!! The world needs her strength and clarity today!
Thinking of yourself and bollocks to everyone else is at the route of humanity...
Thankfully that is untrue..
@@johnallen8680 It was the root cause of the"success" of the Leave campaign.
I remember first watching this and thinking, Gillian is going to win another Emmy. Powerhouse performance.
I thinking the acting across the whole series is top class. Can’t wait for the final instalment due out soon on Netflix!
Olivia Coleman is the best queen. It’s like not even a contest. Season 3 and 4 are impeccable.
Na man so wrong. She’s nothing like the queen.
Her and Claire Foy
@@kb4903Know her so we'll do you?
I think the absolute opposite. OC was like a parody. CF was much more understated
@@AGoodEgg_ exactly. It’s clear OC was acting. She doesn’t have the natural confidence or even the look to embody the queen.
I wish they had shown/reenacted her last day in Parliament when she answered Dennis Skinner with "What A Good Idea".
The casting throughout the Crown was superb
This is a captivating and VERY entertaining scene. I'm EXTREMELY curious to know just how accurate and close to reality this dialogue is to what actually occurred. Fantastic!!
That story is only know to four walls - and _they_ don't speak.
There is no reality to the 'personal' scenes in The Crown whatsoever. You must understand that no British Prime minister, or any Minister of the U.K. government, would EVER reveal any details of a conversation with the Monarch. It is simply inconceivable that it would happen. Well, let me rephrase that, if it did happen then nobody would dare to report it because they would not be able to substantiate it and it would destroy the credibility of the publisher.
Truth and accuracy are two different things. Even if it’s a conversation that didn’t take place, it’s one that could - or might - have taken place.
When The Crown isn’t devolving into Fantasyland (remember, it’s suggested by historical events, but veers tremendously for the sake of entertainment) it’s quite insightful into how people felt, in the same way Shakespeare’s histories are about real events but he was more concerned with telling an interesting story to entertain than fidelity to historical accuracy.
That’s why I still admire The Crown despite some of its historical shortcomings.
Not very close. Mrs. Thatcher was very deferential towards the Queen and would never have been so harsh with her. In fact, the Queen complained that Mrs. Thatcher was too deferential. It was common for the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh to have guests to Balmoral for picnic lunch. At such lunches, the Royal Family would serve the guests. Mrs. Thatcher could not bring herself to be served by the Queen and was so openly uncomfortable with it that the Queen was slightly annoyed by it. There is no way that Mrs. Thatcher would have ever raised her voice to the Queen in this manner.
I think the Crown took many artistic liberties but nevertheless it is an interesting scene.
As amazing and spot on Gillian's portrayal is of Thatcher, there is a flaw. You can tell Gillian has studied many tapes of Margaret Thatcher to get down the voice and mannerisms, but she has studied too much of and sounds like Thatcher talking in parliament or on a podium to a crowd, and not in a one on one conversation manner. She does not sound like she is talking directly to the Queen, but in a room full of people where there are no people.
Anderson was good in this role, but she was hardly the best one to play Margaret Thatcher… Her performance showed no growth in the entire season, as in she seemed frail and grumpy in the entire decade of her tenure… Meryl Streep captured Thatcher perfectly as she gradually aged in the movie…
@@gauravw6947Streep was awful as thatcher
The woman was a robot. It seems plausable she would speak like this in private as well - especially considering the mutual distain the queen and thatcher had for one another.
If you watch interviews of thatcher from the era, her performance, especially the voice is not particularly close at all.
I think that was intentional. The point was to make her seem detached, and unlikeable. Mission accomplished!
I wonder... is this one of, if not the most, high-level importance, most powerful meeting of all-fking-time, of two women in positions of authority ever in the history of "mankind"?
I've seen this when it was first aired, and then on re-watch, but it now just occurs to me, probably after 3-4 watchings now, that this might have been the highest profile meeting of two women in power the world has ever known. If anyone has another occurrence of such a thing, please for the love of God, let me know.
Now to the point... what performances between an unexpected casting (Gillian Anderson), and an expected, yet genius casting, of Olivia Coleman as the Queen... two EXTREMELY polarizing, if not the most polarized, women who ever existed.
It's amazing. It's absolutely amazing. How do you even BEGIN to tackle that as a performer? How do you start to work your way into this kind of situation as an artist, let alone execute such exquisite choices in every tiny mannerism, pitch, look, pose.... just amazing to me.
Two very amazing, strong-willed, determined, but very different women. Like two perfectly-matched prize fighters. Mad respect for both of them.
My favourite scene in the entre series. She owned it.
Which one?
@@loulie1997 Gillian (Margaret) of course
@@mjgudiel8948Absolutely!
“This is the business ma’am, the only business.”
Thatcher told the Queen to stay in her place.
I just wish the editor had lingered longer on their profiles silhouetted in the windows. Beautiful shot.
OMG. Gillian disappears so completely into the character, I didn't realize all this time that was her.
Never knew what a brilliant actress Gillian Anderson is! Wow!
Awesome scenes, amazing actresses, portraying gorgeously two of the most popular and most powerful women in the world in a very scintillating scene. Winner! 👍👍👍
Totally awesome!
This is a superb acting class! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Gillian Anderson is superb. Fantastic. Love from Finland❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Brilliant! What a performance.
I had no idea who’s was Gillian Anderson until the credits. Amazing work
I remember the time when I couldn’t imagine GA anything but agent Scully, she played that so long and so well, even after the Fall, I was like yea, she was awesome here meeh she still scully to me. but this completely changed everything, she is magnificent, I love her very much.
As for Thatcher, Im so jealous of her ability to argument, even with the boss, she never has a freeze response she always knows what to say and how to deliver it, that is such good ability to have in life
Wow, I didn't realize how great of an actress Gillian Anderson is.
What a powerhouse they both are....I'm shivering
Sooo goood!!!
Now you see why Queen Elizabeth loved the 'mighty man'.
wow, thought I was actually watching Thatcher! well done Gillian.
Wow! What a scene, there are two conversations going on here at the same time, the words that are being spoken and naked inuendo in what is really being said, such a powerful scene a cat fight that only two women could pull off, I had to watch it again.
Yes, indeed. Magnificent acting.
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I so do love that Netflix series.
They should’ve left the line when Mrs. Thatcher admits her son is a businessman with stakes in South Africa.
Wasn't necessary. The item you reference did not inform Thatcher's official policy. You are doing her a gross injustice in suggesting this, I'm afraid. The Queen, on the other hand, allowed her concern for her image among Commonwealth leaders to guide her position on this matter.
@@robertbrown-qf8xy Now, now… I didn’t write the script. And that was how the scene ended. No more, no less.
@robertbrown-qf8xy Which is right because she wasn't just the Queen of the UK but 15 other states. If you want to share a monarch with other countries, you gotta take them seriously
Corrupt Crown seeking remedy from a bigoted blot.
Interesting that two American actresses, Gillian Anderson and Meryl Streep, played Margaret Thatcher so brilliantly.
Anderson did grow up in London
@@petert2481no they don’t Peter
@@reidycruise If I remember correctly, one quote after hearing the cost for Thatcher's state funeral was "For that much money they could buy everyone a shovel, and we'd dig a hole so deep you could hand her over to Satan personally"
@@petert2481 I'm Argentinian and here most people hate Tatcher for obvious reasons, but I'm bazzled to know Brits hate her. I know she was the Ma'm of Iron, but overall, she lifted Britain from a awry situation. So... why they hate her?
@@LautaroTessiShe destroyed a nation to rebuild it as a banking enterprise. We pay for it to this day.
One of the best conversations they have
As a kid watching Gillian play Skully, I would have never guessed she would make an amazing Iron Woman.
This series completely changed my views on Gillian Anderson, for an American actress to seize the role of Thatcher so well was a total shock!
She lived in the UK till the age of 11
I suggest you broaden your knowledge of Gillian's work. 🙂
You know she did spend many years in the UK growing up. She's not like this wide-eyed country girl never setting foot outside of small-town Nebraska (or the mamy many equivalents)
This is probably when the queen wished she could summon her guards to have Margaret dragged off and thrown into the dungeon! 🤣
😂😂😂
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The two went toe to toe in this scene. Gillian was amazing but Colman was right up there with her. Two peerless actresses at the absolute top of their game. What a treat to watch this was.
iam from czech.. o gosh. i love this serial.... and in fact... gillian anderson - many times i saw this part... amazing performance, i compare with real thatcher.. and... great great actor attitude.
Two A list Actors at the absolute top of their game. .. 👏👏👏👏
To be fair, this scene is based on a play and based on a book. So it was written rather better than other scenes.
What book and play ?
and it is fiction as nobody knows how this interaction actually played out
Love it!
Amazing!
Oh, that ending sentence of the PM is a killer.
Gillian Anderson is one the best actresses of her generation.
Superb acting! Wow!
Most excellently portrayed a wonderful actress.
Gillian killed it! Bravo.
Margaret really slayed this scene, I wonder if any of the dialogue was actually real.
I don’t think so in that Mrs. Thatcher was too much in awe of the monarchy as an institution to be that confrontational toward the Queen. Some have said that she was even more of a monarchist than the Queen was.
"No one would remember the Good Samaritan if he only had good intentions, he had money as well"
Bruh, that's kind of cold blooded
Brilliant performances
That description she's so mad about is spot on though. 😂
Does what you have now seem satisfactorily "compassionate" to you? Or were Blair and Brown more like it?
U a sheep
Miss Gillian is great actress.
two actresses at the top of their craft
This was absolutely fierce! OMG
Dang.... the British can act ,totally awesome scene.
Gillian Anderson is American.
@@DarkFilmDirector Yes, but with a dash of British exposure added in during her life. I think the stoic Shakespearean influence influenced her making her a much better actor than most of her peers in America.
Wow what an amazing performance!
brilliant acting by both of them.
She read the queen from Genesis to Revelation. SNAP!!!
4:43 Elizabeth pressed the bell after that comment! Lol
These are two great actress, GA is so underrated ...
If a Rap Battle was made into a British conversation.
What an amazing scene. Mrs Gillian Anderson is trully an Superb Actress. What an Exquisite portrail of one of the Greatest Woman from Great Britain. PM. Mrs Margaret Thatcher. Loved it.