ZITAY CFexpress Type A to SSD Adapter Converter CS-306 for Sony a7siii, a1, and FX6
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- Clay tests Zitay's CFexpress Type A to SSD adapter Converter CS-306 on the a7siii. The converter also works for Sony's a1, FX6, and should work on any future products that utilize the CFexpress Type A slots. We put recording options to the test as well as read and write speeds compared to our 80gb Type A card.
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I also got a Zitay Adapter CfAst 2.0 to SSD and using it with RED Komodo and it works perfect. Never had Issues
AWESOME!
Wow, I got my hopes up seeing the title. Amazing to see it’s more or less useless. Dayumm. Thanks for the video !
Yeah sorry it wasn't better news...
I'm sad that it didn't, I actually was hoping for something like this that works
Just want to say thank you for making this video. I had bought this adapter, but when I saw that it didn't support v60 at all, I cancelled the order. I was hoping to use it on my Fx6.
It's one of those "better in concept than execution" pieces of tech. Some may find it useful, mine ended up in a drawer.
v90 c
Спасибо большое!😉👍
Хорошо, что сначала это видео посмотрел.
Would like to see this tested on an fx6 as unlike the a7s3 it warns you about being unsupported but doesn't actually stop you from using those modes.
Fx30 many people await, needs to test it
Has anyone test it?
@@slmtrkr me not yet
The bottleneck would be the adapter, and most likely the firmware could be a factor as how the Camera could perceive the card, even though the SSD is super fast.This would be a great solution if you happen to have many m.2 samsung evo unused. But great review in tackling this alternative solution.
I was really hoping it would work. Thanx for taking the time to make it😢
Thanks for the kind feedback!
Thanks for the review. I was interested now that my camera door broke but doesn’t seem like it’s really worth it.
I am pretty happy with 200 for my 4k 24.
I just read that CFExpress type A is only 1 PCIe lane of bandwidth, while the type b is 2 lanes. (Most full-size NVMe SSDs are 4 lanes), That, coupled with the lower power requirement than a full-sized (power hungry) NVMe SSD like the Samsung, could explain why it doesn't do the higher speeds. Maybe an SSD with only 2 lanes (I don't think they make 1 lane SSDs) and 30mm or42mm length (smaller power draw) would make them work, since the camera is only designed for the tiny card. I'd love to see you try one out. I will also email Zitay and see what they say.
I tried a bunch of others I had on hand and a few from older laptops but none worked. I'm all ears for ideas!!
@@DPCTechnology Did you try one of the low power ones or the short ones (30mm or 42mm)? I emailed the guys in China, and they said their engineers will try others I suggested to see if they work better. It's got to be SOMETHING, right? When this mystery gets solved, it'll save people a LOT of money!
@@buckwilde1511 no, I just tried what I had
@@buckwilde1511 any info from zitay?
@@opezdol I think they just blew me off! I will reach out again. But I don't have any issues with my type b adapter, so I hadn't really sweated it. I bought a tiny toshiba 30mm ssd and it worked great, I just haven't had a chance to test it on an A7Siii since I bought a Nikon Z6 to match all my Nikon glass. I will send tgem another email and see what they say....
Great critical review. I'd love to see a clean solution for recording to dual SSD drives instead of type A cards, but by the time we get that I'm sure we'll have competitive prices for 1 tb CFX-A cards.
I think so too.. Thanks for the feedback.
궁금했는데 여상으로 보여 주셔서 감사해요
처음부터 ssd 장착하게 만들었으면
일본 갈라파고스 꼴통들이 변화에 지랄이니 ㅎㅎㅎㅎ
대중화 되면 구매 해야겠습니다
정보 다시한번 감사드립니다 ^^
I saw another youtuber do a similar test and turns out POWER is the issue. Apparently the camera can't deliver enough power to the full length 2280 m.2 drive. He used a smaller, more power efficient m.2 ssd - KIOXIA bg4 - which is a client ssd, and it seemed to work fine. Maybe that is something to try, like a sabrent SB-1342-1TB or a 30mm SanDisk PC SN520 512GB m.2 2230.
I bought this adapter, but I haven't had a chance to test it as my A7Siii hasn't arrived yet. But I am EAGER for this to work....
I will give it a whirl, i have a ton of m.2s lying around..
@@DPCTechnology GREAT! I'll subscribe so I don't miss it. If it DOES work as it's supposed to, it'll be a GAME CHANGER and YOU will be partly responsible because you can advise the guys in China to recommend more power-efficient SSDs! Their cfexpress type B adapter seems to work great, and cfast 2.0 ones have always worked. Maybe they can come up with a solution like tapping power from another source like d-tap or USB ...??? We'll see. Thanks again for doing this!
@@buckwilde1511 did you get to try your idea on your new a7s3 ? wondering if you guys ever found a solution to using ssd to record 4k ( and 8k a1) thnx
@@thenewkidonthestreet6524 following this
@@buckwilde1511 ping
thanks man
Than you for test , it seems to be like sony firmware prevent to record in fastest speed. This is also visible when using v30 card when all Q&S is not available . Possibly some firmware update will fix a bit
It would be nice!
Thanks for the review! But remember... always cut away from yourself! :)
Using a similar setup on my EOS R5. Works like a charm, and the build quality!? Like I'm holding a SR71 Blackbird wing.
I'm using the CFExpress version from Zitay with a 2tb ssd Samsung 970 evo plus. Have the camera cage to screw on to and im set. Helps with overheating too.
Would've been $1500+ for two 1tb ProGrade cards with unreliable write speeds. Glad I researched first.
Yeah it seems to work on the A1 too
The reason you a having issues is that the 970 Pro uses to much power and is causing issues form the CFexpress slot
I'm not familiar with dual card slots yet, but is it possible somehow to use a faster card as a buffer and this in the second slot to have the size advantage?
Unfortunately no..
Its work for the Sony Fx30?
I don't have one to try
Please let we know when you try it to the sony fx30
Have they found a workaround or solution? I really don't want to have to buy more expensive cards anymore and an external recorder (Such as Ninja V) is looking like the only option at this point. which still can't do 120p :(
FX3 User
It now works on the newer cameras
@@DPCTechnology what do you mean it works on the newer camera? 4:2:2 10bit?
Does this now work on A1?
Works on Sony PXW-FS7? thanks man
Hello! Have you also tested with Burst in Hi++ and RAW? The camera memory is probably being emptied very slowly.
Greetings from Düsseldorf! Dariusz
I have not but will.
At this time and age, i wonder why they wont just add internal M.2 drives in cameras.. they cost cheaper than a SD card.
Yeah, internal storage should be more common...
Can you see what it does for flushing the buffer when taking pictures? I’m getting my Alpha 1 soon and have seen reports about flushing at maximum speed of the (sd-)card, even though the best ones (V90) are only rated for 90MB/s continuous. My guess is that for CFx also the maximum speed is used, so possibly 700MB/s.
haven't seen the A7S3 fill buffer but will try, A7R4 fills it quickly but no CFexA..
I tested, the buffer never fills with the A7siii on hi+ with raw files.. The 12mp sensor can't fill buffer faster than the card can write. Wish i had an A1 to test :)
Thx for making this review
No problem, thanks for the feedback!
Thank you so much.
Thanks for the kind feedback
Interesting review … wondering what if any has changed in the 2 years since …. ? Ulnar nerve damage in the arm ?
The NVMe drive is capable of about 10x the maximum data rate the camera is asking for, so the adapter is the problem, it's reporting the wrong speed capability to the camera.
November 2022 - same price $398. except a 2 pack is $696 ($348each).
Expensive, but a great deal!
did you ever get this working??
Yes
@@DPCTechnology did you review it?
I know you tested video but did you happen to test the photos writing to the SSD?
I did, the 12mp raw files never fill the buffer on Hi+.. So on the Siii it is unlimited buffer. I dont have an A1 to try it on but i suspect you might have unlimited buffer on the 50mp files.. The limitation seems to be in firmware not in throughput..
@@DPCTechnology That’s awesome! Thank you!
잘 봤습니다.
They should have made a type a clone. Thanks for the video.
Yeah, it was worth a try...
can u plug in that ssd to the usb type c and record through that? is that even possible? and will u get any other speeds?
I don't think that would work
test with fuji xh2s with type B card adapter, plz!!
Does it work normally with fx30? İs there anyone testing it?
I have not tried
@DPCTechnology I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work, what do you think?
@@slmtrkr I don't see why not
@@slmtrkr maybe late, but I have adapter like this and it works but cant use settings that requires v90/vpg200
Might as well get an AngelBird 512GB for $180 and be done with it. Much better performance too.
Think that price is for the type b no type a
Is that work for FX30 ?
I do not have an FX30 to test
A7V?
I think by the time I would consider using something like this, I would just use my Atomos Ninja V instead
Yeah was hoping it was an "in between" solution.. but not so much..
but the ninja V doesn't allow you to record 4k 120 fps. hahaha
@@thangnguyen2840 lol
@@thangnguyen2840 oh shit i thought after update its possible or i did missunderstand 😭
Sony a7s3 + 2000 SSD M.2 Kingston FURY Renegade [SFYRD/2000G] - error - unable to read memory card, reinsert memory card in slot 1... I just put m2 to Zitay and plug in to sony 7s3... Can anyone help me? Firmware 2.01...
Can i use only samsung 970 ssd series?
Any m.2 should work.
Technical point. Your exposure is a bit hot. At least a stop or two too bright. Your skin on your forehead and nose is blown out. Also, on the camera angle next to your computer your DOF is too shallow. Focus is on your glasses and eyes are out of focus. Try a litte less blurry to make it so both your eyes are in focus. That is more pleasing to watch. Now it almosts looks like everything is out of focus as its too narrow. Otherwise I love your videos! Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the constructive feedback, we moved the set around to the blue wall and still dialing it in.. added overhead too.. I was most annoyed that I was looking at the off camera overhead monitor half of the video, not good.. we tried to just use the 120D for the wall and face exposure to make the gradient more centers but should go back to a light behind me... Trial and error, but thanks again!
Is this works for Sony A7iii?
Sony A7iii does'nt suported CFexoress Cards!
Slower than the v60 cards.
How about Samsung 980 PRO ssd? It's 7,000 MB/s read.
I heard Samsung 980 PRO ssd works with a canon camera.
I tried one. Works in A1. Not A7s3
@@DPCTechnology Thank you so much. How about A7ⅳ？
@@DPCTechnology I want to shoot 4K60p(All-intra).
@@sma_photo Will bring home and test tonight
@@DPCTechnology Thank you in advance.
CFexpress should be cheaper (´•̥̥̥ ᎔ •̥̥̥`)
It is too expansive with no reason 😫
I agree! Needs competition
Sony Tought SD 300/299mb/s are not chiper....
so basically it's a waste of money
Correct..
2022, and sony camera lastest A7iv still use cf-A cards Hahahaha
just put a goddamn M.2 nvme slot in there and ppl will buy the shit out the camera. stop being so stupid sony.
but base on the record, sony is probably the least company that will do such nice thing for its customers.
memory stick, XQC cards. hehe.
Not
Just FYI, it does work with the A1. I am going to do a follow up vid
@@DPCTechnology Hi Clay, really nice video. Super interested in your feedback for the A1, having just purchased this myself. Was you able to get it working with 8K capture?
@@JamesSpurin I haven't cranked it all the way up.. I'll try tonight and let u know here in the comments
@@DPCTechnology Amazing! Thanks so much!
@@DPCTechnology In the meantime, I've done some Sony A1 research and for the 8K content, it technically shouldn't be that demanding and should hopefully be do'able. It's a h.265 codec at either 200Mbps or 400Mbps, so it needs a sustained write of 25 MBps / 50MBps which ... should be viable on a fairly priced performant SD card.
I also noticed that in the comments above that someone mentioned the KIOXIA bg4 - I found this video and they raised some very good points but, they were talking about a different interface (the cfast 2.0), however, it may be that these lower powered NVMe's register themselves differently and therefore open options up.
Depending on how testing goes, it may be worthwhile investing in a KIOXIA bg4 to see if you get more usage. In the UK, 256GB ones are on ebay for about £30 so it could be worth a shot.
Apart from your video, there's hardly anything on this topic and a solution to the higher rate captures (which in the case of the Sony, might actually be the 4K raw vs the 8K (owing to the codec)), will be super useful.
That thing is an utter waste of time. Shame
It held promise.. not sure they don't get it right in the future.. Just too early..
sony is an idiot for only using type A cards. it is both slow and more expensive than type B. physical Size benefits aren't worth it.