Britain's "Newest" Tank: Challenger 3, Failing to Learn Lessons from Ukraine
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- - The Challenger 3 has been unveiled as the UK’s newest and most “lethal” main battle tank (MBT);
- The Challenger 3 is produced by modernizing existing Challenger 2 MBTs with 127 planned for conversion from the UK’s existing 221 Challenger 2s;
- The refurbishment/modernization of 127 tanks will cost $990 million or approximately $7.8 million per tank, several times more than modernized Russian tanks, and even more expensive or as expensive as new Russian tanks;
- The Challenger 3 will weigh more than its predecessor, and both tanks are heavier than their Russian T-72B3, T-90M, T-80BVM, and even T-14 counterparts;
- 127 MBTs in total will mean that most likely fewer than 100 tanks will be operational at any given time making it impractical for the UK to project military power abroad in any significant manner;
- The Challenger 3 features a 120mm smoothbore gun that will use NATO standard tank rounds which is an improvement over the Challenger 2’s rifled gun which required unique ammunition incompatible with other NATO tanks;
- The Challenger 3 is another illustration of Western military industrial production, emphasizing expensive, complex weapons built in small numbers to maximize profits versus equally capable, but cheaper and more numerous Russian or Chinese weapons designed to maximize both battlefield and strategic effectiveness;
- While a Challenger 3 may or may not be capable one-on-one with a Russian MBT, the fact that Russia has many more tanks and is able to replace damaged or lost tanks faster than the Challenger 3 and other Western MBTs proves a disadvantage to the UK and the rest of NATO;
References:
UK Ministry of Defence - UK's most lethal tank rolls off the production lines (April 18, 2024):
www.gov.uk/government/news/uk...
BBC - UK's most lethal tank enters testing (April 2024):
www.bbc.com/news/articles/c25...
Business Insider - Russia's new tank - its T-14 Armata - is probably too expensive to use in Ukraine, top weapons maker says (March 5, 2024):
www.businessinsider.com/russi...
Novaya Gazeta - The barren barrels (November 2022):
novayagazeta.eu/articles/2022...
The Guardian - British Challenger 2 tank destroyed in combat for first time, Ukraine footage shows (September 2023):
www.theguardian.com/world/202...
Forbes - Ukraine’s ‘Huge And Loud’ Challenger 2 Tanks Hide In Treelines, Lob Shells At Russian Fortifications Two Miles Away (February 2024):
www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe...
Forbes - The British Challenger 2 Is The Wrong Tank For Ukraine (March 2024):
www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe...
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Who need enemies, when you got friends like NATO?
"To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal"
- Henry Kissinger -
Alongside their sister The W H O they are the most poisonous evil entities... harbingers of death this realm has ever churned out of its bowels.
❤well said and well OBSERVED.
In nato US and UK is the worst . In human history they are nastiest.
@@petergreen5337fully agree , same thinking, bravo 👏
Meanwhile, the economy in the UK continues to deteriorate.
It is truly in "tatters", as they say. Some of my newer videos discuss this.
America as well
"Priorities."
@@holidayhouse03 at least america still has some manufacturing base and has a lot of natural resources. The UK has neither. We have completely destroyed our manufacturing base, and what little resources we do have we are banned from using with insane net zero laws.
Little Rishi Sunak is unelected
Au contraire, Brian. Britain's tank modernization plan didn't 'fail'. Because it's objective was not puissance but profit. So a rousing success it was.
Well said and well REASONED
Just like all the wars in recent decades are not defeats - they are roaring successes and the weapons manufacturers are laughing all the way to the bank.
Exactly. Same if not worse in the US. Once a funding procurement pattern is established it becomes a hard wired flow of wealth from the taxpayers to military contractors to government elites to their reelection campaigns. That is the purpose of the spending.
@@petergreen5337 i feel bad while laughing. a very common thing these days in NATOstan. lets see what the french and the germans are going to build. its going to be at least on par with this "challenger".
anyone remember Colonel Kurtz? i think about his monologues all the time...
Nice use of sarcasm.
I'm from the uk , I'm actually from London, the capital, one of the worlds most prestigious streets W1 Oxford circus , sharesberry avenue Lancaster road and so on, the most affluent luxurious places in the world or around the tops, you would never see rough sleepers rubbish within those streets , that was about 25yrs maybe more, now in 2024 you have in those same streets rough sleepers beggers rubbish allot of shops has closed boarded up, if it's like that in those areas central london would be much worst we have police stations closing libraries schools houses boarded up absolutely dirty streets suicide has increased very unfortunate sad , taxes has increased even state pensions would be in jeopardy in 2040/50 some say even 2030 a government rishi sunak wasn't democratically elected, Ukrainians is not placed on the housing ladder they're housed automatically, and the uk government expect us to adhere to law , when it disregards a ICJ Ruling or judgement against israelis ghaza genicidual actions, we don't have free speech, we adhere to Israeli netanyahu speech and orders as those america , its a disgraceful country disgraceful situation completely wrong something has to happen BRICS+ is the way ahead
Tough times breeds strong men, and easy times breed weak men, the British has had it easy for a long time now, I guess there plenty of weak men running the country
The UK has achieved cultural "enrichment"
Same sh*** in Paris, greetings from France.
@Fesfes ....And do you know the biggest irony ? The white British voting numptie elected the ones causing it . And will do so again next election .
Vote Reform UK.
The Square with trophies, including a US-made Abrams, in Moscow is getting busier by day...
Soon, the museum will add new trophies from the West 🥹
@@Tchernoziuum they so desired to ’get to Moscow’ after all 😅
" Australia expelled two Indian intelligence operatives in 2020 as part of ‘nest of spies’, reports claim "
@@DTJKS "One way or another", like we used to said 😅.
Cokensky never lies 😆
@@arostwocents i wont called them tropies at all. more like junks
Challenger 3 is a 2 with extra cup holders 🤭
10 million dollar cup holders
@ it got 3 cup holder, rather then 2 😂😂😂😂😂
@@jackklugman107Also removing all significant pieces which before were made in UK but they lost ability to make them so they are replacing them with German pieces 🤣
New Challenged 3 tank is already obsolete!!😅😂😅
It's not even got a cope cage! No match for a turtle tank 🐢😊
If that modernization increased weight and the track surface remained the same, Challenger "3" will become a victim of lethal Ukrainian mud.
Honestly, turning the tank to a armored shed would increase its performance, but hey, gotta sell the "new lethal tank" somehow, right?
British tanks since WW2, starting with Chieftain, are massive behemoths, sacrificing mobility for armor and firepower. The British seem to have inherited massive Tiger tank psychosis from WW2, so once the WW2 tankers became generals they became obsessed with tanks that were basically moving bunkers. Ironically the Germans went the opposite way. Learning in WW2 that armor and firepower alone did not win them the war, that mobility and numbers mattered too. So they designed Leopard 1 and 2.
They think there fighting in deserts still
@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 To be fair, the mainstay of the Wehrmacht was the StuG III, which isn't even a proper tank. Behind that, it was the Panzer III and IV variants which were not particularly well-armoured
@@juliantheapostate8295 They were pre war designs though I'd say the standard medium tank was the Panther G
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I guess it's just for the video but I don't get how he's in like Singapore or Thailand and wearing two shirts!
Maybe it’s an air conditioning environment and he feels a cough a-coming
Thanks for your work Brian!
While food prices in Chicago quadrupled..
Hello im from Vietnam. I would like to ask how bad it is? I mean US has huge amount of rich agriculture lands and entire industry to support agriculture. Why food price increased so much?
@@HungPham-hm9yk … the western oligarchs are destroying their nations from within to further their bloody UN Agenda 2030 and bring about the Great Reset into their One World Government. They’re failing but still cause great damage and kill millions.
@@HungPham-hm9yk Because they print so much money for war.
Challenger tanks are no match for the mighty Russian shovel.
And the chips from those washing machines.
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Another thing that any Brit will know is if the Government and Military say this will coast $990 Million it will actually cost at least $2 Billion by the time all 'Special Payment' have been handed out for 'changes to specification' originally call corruption payments.
What is an elephant? A mouse build to Gov. specifications.
Interesting to see the troops (Russian) are taking lessons from the battlefield and building breaching tanks or "Turtles" as they are nicknamed. The creation of specialised breaching vehicles to lead troops into the enemy positions in not new. Mine clearing, semi amphipious and cope cages are all examples of the troops in the front line demostrate the need and priority needs of the troops on the ground. As usual defence contractors do not listen or the accountants think they are being smarter by not adjusting a volume standard vehicle model.
Challenger 3 program was started years ago and before the ukraine war started. They are merely an upgrade. Why can't they upgrade something sustantially like say an anti tank guided missile that goes do the barrel and has a range 2 kms longer than the standard western tanks. The latest T72 can engage from 5 kms out while most western tanks are 3kms.
The West has learned nothing from WW2 where the Germans made ever increasingly over spec'd tanks that were taken out by 2 or 3 cheap robust tanks from the soviets supported by lots of arty ammunition ( pre man portable anti tank missile and drone days). That was if they made it to the battlefield with many more breaking down before they got there. Tank move firepower faster that is all.mto be effective it is firepower × speed to get a higher momentum than the enemy that is generally static. Not easy to do but simple to calculate. Speed of the breach coupled with lots of artillery. Protection from drones and anti-tank missiles is great and speed contributes. In some areas the Russians are even using Quad bikes and motorcycles to access a key point from which fire can be brought to bear and help affect a breach.
The defence contractors should not have anything to do with procurement. Unfortunately they do. It is much easier to charge outrageous fees to govts for lots of sophisticated hi tech which govts pay in advance and therefore profit built in at the beginning. Russian controls the supply chain and the army demands the kit and pays for what is the cost not their shareholders quarterly dividends. Build simple effective weapons that are built efficiently. NATO has never abandoned their own domestic supply chains to produce effective weapons efficiently. These actions demonstrate that NATO has never been about true defence but more about moving taxpayers money into defence contractors pockets and hence the political party donations etcetcetc
They can't use barrel ATGMs because Challenged is, iirc, the only production tank with a rifled barrel.
To be fair, the guided missile has very rarely been used in combat. There are certainly lots of ideas aroudnd to test, but the boards are always creating super expensive design.
ATGM has effectively killed the tank .. since the Yom Kippur war
Summed up in 1 line "profit over purpose against purpose over profit" Bravo!
When will they send it to the Russian exposition in Moscow? I mean, to the battlefield in Ukraine?🤡
Considering the UK's anemic defense industries it will probably take years for Challenger 3 to enter service in meaningful numbers. By then the war in the Ukraine will be most likely over.
The display is for actual frontline fighting vehicles not for battle-shy British tanks, that hide miles away from the frontline while claiming to be snipers.
When it will have enough courage to enter the Frontline.
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I'm an ex British soldier married to a Russian woman and living in Krasnagorsk,Moscow.
We will be going to this exhibition.
Quite fitting Brian has posted regarding the Challenger 3. People here want the tanks displayed outside the relevant Embassies where these tanks come from.
According to a U.S.Government Accountability Office (U.S.GAO) report, only 29% of all F-35 fighters are in some form of "combat condition". And it doesn't mean that the "adversary" can't shoot down the "combat fit" ones, when even an F-16 from the 70s can do it. Video- Fail: More than two-thirds of America’s F-35s can’t fly.
Now take a guess where Raytheon gets the rare Earth metals to enable much of the F-35's technology ? It begins with C and America is laughably talking about decoupling from this country where 46% of all US business have supply chain links!
any metric wavelenght radar sees any invisible aircraft. the idea with the small cross-section blah-blah, is missleading. no stealth technology can make small cross-sections on metric frequencies. while the reduction on micro-wave can be 60-80, maybe even 90 dB, in VHF it barely reduces with 9-12 dB. the difficulty is in using VHF radars, as they are bulky. anyway, any VHF radar on the ground sees all stealth aircraft.
the high efficiency of the stealth aircraft is realized when attacking very small countries, from the cover of third parties. that makes the attack effectively instantaneous. in full fledged war, the stealth aircrafts are more like a scam. the best USA aircraft, are not the F-35, but the F-15. F-15 is the apotheosis of USA fighter.
Most rare-earth is processed and refined in China.
China decides who get what rare-earth Minerals and how much.
US f-34 needs adobe after effects or davinci fusion to fly.
It takes about 30 hours of maintenance for every hour of flight time for the F35s - go figure.
Not so Great Britain an embarrassment
The Challenger three is at an advantage driving on UK roads as its one of the few vehicles that can handle the Indiana Jones level of potholes one has to traverse to nip to the chemist.
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In Australia we're watching and we know what's going on ❤️ Murdoch and co can't fool us.
We're somewhat lucky here for now..until the US empire subsumes us entirely
He can and he does. Australians never lost their convict roots, we are prisoners to propaganda. Our leaders want to imprison Elon Musk for life for giving us a small taste of freedom of speech. We will gladly destroy our country like Ukranians for empty promises and nice words from our empirical overlords.
If you're driving a Challenger tank towards Russian defense lines, your driving a steel coffin.
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Greetings from Australia
Me too ,from Australia !!
he Australia, did you change your mind about submarines ?
@@ddoumeche New submarine base being built near Perth, they're going to be a nuclear power soon I'd say.
@@knowahnosenothing4862 you mean first sub in 2034-2040 ?
Brian is correct about modernization programs. (As he usually is on most of the military subjects he tackles on his show.) Truely, this is one of the most valuable sources of information on the Russo-Ukraine war that exists. This war has changed and continues to change how wars fought and how they will be foughht in the coming decades. I'm a former US civilian military contractor, military and geopolitical historian and this man really knows his stuff IMHO. It seems that, as is usually the case, prioritizing profits isn't the best strategy when it comes to winning a war. Near-peer opponant conflicts are nearly always won by the side with greater numbers. WW2 Germany is a perfect example of this. Better weapons in most categories from smalll arms to MBTs to combat aircraft, but not in sufficient numbers to matter basicially cost the Germans the war. Germany back then didn't have much of an option though. They could never outproduce the Soviet Union or the USA so they had to go for better quality weapons. This was a losing startegy from the begining. The Soviets and the USA both went for mass production of a few weapon systems in each category in very large quantities that Germany and moreover other Axis countries could never match despite the Herculean efforts of their arms industries. The NATO countries of today badly underestimated the residual ability of the ex-Soviet Union's factories to produce conventional weaponary on a scale easily big enough to outstrip all NATO and Ukrainian production and atritt Ukraine into a pile of dust. I'm not really surprised that bad decisions were made by governments that routinely make bad decisions about everything they attempt to tackle. Arrogance and stupidity are what defines western governments today. In any case, great work again Brian!
It is always good to hear and see you, Brian. You are like a Lighthouse in a "featureless" ocean. May the Gods preserve , keep and strengthen you.
I'm surprised you didn't laugh Brian
He no longer smiles because no THEETH
I certainly did, took about 44 seconds into the video and I was slapping my forhead and busting up.
@@taibro3868 what are you even here for?
Neet the new tank, same as the old tank, Moscow has it's display spot ready.
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Funny I don’t see a single one there
How many tanks on display on your victory day parade ? 😂😂
How can they learn their lesson?
They built the Type 45 destroyer. The first one was found to be underpowered for all its systems to operate, yet they continued with the next five, each costing £1.2 billion.
After all were completed, they couldn't function properly and spent most of the time in the dock.
Now, they are retrofitting these ships by adding an extra generator and cutting the hull for the new fittings, costing more than £1bn.
They built two aircraft carriers but no planes.
US Marines are now operating on those carriers, which are funded by UK taxpayers.
It's all about profit.
The original generator was big enough to power the city of Coventry, however, direct energy weapons being power hungry, dictated an even bigger generator, trial being conducted mid Atlantic.
Of course Dragons breath tech is now out there, however, development took place on the type 45 over a decade ago.
The UK military has devolved into something resembling any number of hilarious Monty Python skits.
An excerpt :
“The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion (to which few members of other civilizations were converted) but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”
― Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order (1996)
__________
The war in Ukraine is only the latest but most obvious demonstration that the 'rules based order' no longer exists:
[Over the past several decades, the United States has continually placed Moscow in a position either to accept the fait accompli of NATO expansion at the expense of Russian security interests, or to escalate with force and suffer the consequences of increased economic and political ostracization. This disincentive to avoid escalation has been effectively removed. Explicating the altered state of international relations is not cheerleading for the Russian position - although it may be treated as such by those who disingenuously present any realistic assessment of the situation as “appeasement” - but rather illustrating how Moscow has insulated itself from Western ostracization, thus changing the entire balance of power in not only Europe, but the world.
Now, it is Russia that has the West on the horns of a dilemma: It can either watch the Kremlin achieve its strategic objectives, guaranteed in a one-sided negotiated settlement or through the continued attrition of Ukrainian forces, or it can escalate with force. Putin’s statement regarding nuclear weapons was not mere rhetoric-it was the Russian president defining the limits of the current conflict from a position of authority.
Anything short of total Ukrainian victory is therefore an implicit admission that the “rules-based” economic and political order has been irreversibly altered.]
This morning hypersonic weapons destroyed an SBU headquarter in Kiev just seconds after the air alarm was activated. Western air defenses had failed. Russia has destroyed the myth of the West's superiority in applying organized violence.
www.moonofalabama.org/2024/03/deterrence-by-savagery.html#more
If it's been built by Land Rover, it won't make it out of the driveway.😂
I like my TRD Toyota Racing Development better...
Or it will Stolen 😂
The irony here is that the old original tiger tank may in fact become the tank of the future!!!.😅😅😅😅😅😅
Another game changer!! Meanwhile more than 200 peoples died each week in England and Wales while waiting in Hospital Emergencies last year.
7.8 million, is this a joke? For that money you can make 600 new tanks. also, 127 tanks would last 2 days in Ukraine.
If you had steel for that, lol.
I disagree with you Brian! Challenger tank is not a steal coffin! It actually saves lives! By getting stuck in the mud and never making it to the frontline! 😂😂😂
Who needs enemies when you have our government
There is no clearer example - Britain lost WWII..
americans and their hollywood history...
Good morning Brian ❤
I’ve heard anecdotes about British soldiers being extremely arrogant; thinking they could just fly over to Russia and take out all the Russian military with air power. It is sad but also quite dangerous.
They probably believe they can outmatch Russian soldiers 'pound for pound' which may even be true. But I doubt they think an 80,000 strong British Army would last more than a week against Russia
Didn't they think javelins were enough once?
Yes. There are intelligent people who are aware of the reality but many citizens believe the stories that are peddled, about Russia being weak and backwards. Furthermore the fact that Russia (as part of USSR) defeated the Nazis in WW2 is hardly included in the historical discourse. Brits like to say “we won the war” (partly true). The superiority complex is so ridiculous, that’s a problem imo.
@@juliantheapostate8295 It may even be true that the British army can outmatch Russian soldiers POUND FOR POUND? Which has more REAL WAR experience? Which has more FIRE POWER? Which has more weapon ATTRITION capability? Which has the MORE EFFECTIVE doctrine, tactics, and strategy? I STRONGLY doubt an 80,000 strong British army can outmatch an 80,000 strong Russian army. I'll even bet a numerically inferior +-66,000 strong combined forces of VDV and Akhmat would beat them.
British officers have always been arrogant. I remember how they used to laugh at Americans for using so many armoured vehicles to carry out reconnaissance missions, when they (British army) only needed an armoured land-rover to carry out the same role. That was before land-rovers started getting ripped apart in Iraq.
Only 127 tanks and how many years before all 127 delivered?
127 years.😆
Brain, you are doing the lords work. Thank You
Brian Berletic, the voice of reason
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What are these 'threats' that the UK faces?
The American government, same for Americans.
In house Globalists.
Its own politicians.
Another trophy to be displayed in Kubinka Tank Museum
Assuming there's enough left of it!😅
@@ExpatGringo Все нормально. Я живу не далеко от всего этого в городе Одинцово. В парке победы уже выставляют весь этот хлам стран нато. На днях поеду со своими детьми показать им этот металолом.
Russian scrap litters Ukraine but nobody is interested
@@megavolt6054How many brewed up Russian tanks are displayed in that park?
127 tanks. They say, quantity is a sort of quality, this certainly rings true 😂
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At this point, quantity is quality itself. And failure to have quantity diminishes your quality.
They say
"Quantity has a quality all of its own."
Thank you Brian 😊
UK just closed the last steel mill on British Isles. What this new tank is built from ? Paper Marche ? Recycled solar panels ?
😂
They moved their military production to China.
The UK has lost its way in defense spending and planning, It's difficult to understand the UK decision of building two new aircraft carriers HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales . Aircraft carriers are an offensive weapon and with the current technology are made redundant by new generation missiles, the loss of such white elephants would be a catastrophe for the UK, so much so that they would most likely hide away in a peer conflict in the safest harbour available to them.
Calling them after the Queen and future King (at the time) is a bad idea when they're likely to be sunk!
Gordon brown did it as his last act to create jobs in his constituency. Unforgivable.
Since profit is the motive, this tank is a WINNER!
Russia having state owned military production facilities cuts costs at least in half if not to 33% of any western counterpart.
So T-14 is around 2,5-3,5 million
russian washing machine micro chip seems to be more effective
Russia will just have to enlarge their museums to show off the new conquests that the UK is providing.
Putting in a more comfortable seat for the driver & giving it a lick of paint doesn't make a Challenger 2 into a 3.
I have a friend who's son is in the army and one of the few people who drives a Challenger tank. He says its a complete piece of junk, they need to shut down every 45 mins or the tank will start to shake itself to bits. All this is to say:- in such a vehicle a more comfortable seat might actually be a worthwhile upgrade..
Brian you make some great comments in here. The stuff you said about the west being incapable of winning wars that they choose to wage because they prioritise profit over purpose so great to hear that mate.
If you didn't know it was just plain greed and incompetence you'd think Ukraine was being set up to lose.
NATO, UK, USA, FRANCE, have only won war against Countries that could not fire back. Hence they list their war in Ukraine, just dragging their feet in filth, of their Democracy, and their values.
"It's almost like the BBC is an extension of the British government ... almost."
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Aliens are coming... 🙂
The BBC is an extension of the government by royal charter and it is a state owned station and set for propaganda
Don't pay the TV licence
I think it interesting to recognise that those who profit will never
put anyone in their own families in the machines they produce .
If this were so I am sure they would design and produce something differe t and effective .
The Challenger 3 is designed to be the best in the world at Tank vs.Tank fighting.
And it quite possibly is the best at that.
But tank vs tank fights are so rare.
There's nothing in the C3 that makes it drone resistant.
Aye, they have always been rare, even in WW2
Designed by people with no experience of successful, large scale conflicts against a peer adversary.
Turtle 🐢 tank would win, Challenged 3 tank doesn't even have a cope cage! 😅
I highly doubt that since T Series still out range it with their Refleks shells.
The best tank in the world from the thousands of videos I've analyzed goes to the T80BVM without a doubt.
One of the problems with military equipment is that it often takes 10 years r % d and then years to produce, by the time it is being made it's already 20 years out of date. Most US aviation use cpu's from the late 90's and early 2000's... this is the ground breaking modern tech apparently Pentium 90....
Not without reasons. Most of military electronics (except radars and other signal processing items) are outdated in all armies.
Regarding the accurate shooting range. Practice has shown that tanks either fire from covered positions or cover the assault mainly on the shoot-and-hide principle. Moreover, in the first case, any old tank with a fairly accurate gun is suitable. In the second, the tank also needs protection and all-terrain capability. But in both cases, extreme ranges are only possible if the generals find a perfectly flat ground surface and station troops on it, which is ridiculously rare.
Meanwhile, four week waiting list to see my G.P. in Scotland.
Just Fan-Dabbie-Fkn-Dozie!
Blame the SNP for that, they're responsible for health!
The deterioration in Scotland is palpable. I left it in 1980 to work in the South and then moved to the USA. I revisited Ayrshire to see my Gran before she passed in 1999. Haven’t been back since and do not plan to do so. Devolution and the SNP have destroyed the tight knit country I was born and grew up in. My commiserations.
The challenger 2 has been absent from the frontlines in Ukraine alot. It's like they parade these "game changers" far from the frontlines and have news media's from the west record it like it's charging forward against the Russians when really its not
Thanks for your job,salutes from Brazil 👍
complimenti per l'onesta intellettuale e la serieta' dell'analisi
Again it sounds like the German Tigers and Panthers vs the Soviet T34s in ww2. The big German cats went the extra mile, adding extra components like overlapping wheels to supposedly make their tanks more effective, but in doing so made them too expensive and difficult to produce enough of and maintain. Meanwhile the Soviet T34 was effective enough but was also designed to be built and maintained easily.
History has shown which design philosophy had won.
Brian has unlocked the Agent 47's Casual Southern France suit.
Noice.
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Haha
Brian, you are a star! Thankyou for everything that you do!
Another “Game Changing Weapon" this time from the UK.
Brian's analyses always reminds me of the only German army unit that correctly predicted the outcome of the Nazi invasion of the USSR - and that would be the army unit in charge of logistics.
Amateurs talk strategy; professionals talk logistics
Thank you Brian, excellent work as always! 👏 👏 👏
Finally british upgrade their tank to NATO standard. Bravo lads!
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No that’s the Smoothbore gun. To use NATO Ammo. But the Gun is coming to the end of its life. That’s why German is looking to increase the size of its main armament Gun and ammo.
Indeed, profits over purpose, that seems to be the main goal of the western armies. With these kind of money wasting defence industries, we can never win any war, efficiently spending money/recources is part of any battle.
It could, as WW2 proved, when the West was able to marshall its massive industrial output to drown the Axis in tanks, aircraft and ships. But the West has de-industrialized itself in favor of services and finances. And whatever industry remained streamlined itself to have as little surge capacity as possible (because that costs money). Thus Western armies are well equipped, but brittle, with no means to replace combat losses.
@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 We are not well equipped, far from well equipped. In a war you need old fashioned weapons, we seem to think some fancy toys keep us from an ugly fight, these over expensive, overengineered weapons will be part of our downfall. Have no production capabilities, trashed education, no social cohesion and woke leadership... forget it.
@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Oh i used the word woke, my comment was deleted..
@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 I don't think they could. People in the west are fed up with the government and lots of people don't realize that US/UK basically implemented fascism to win ww2 they seized industry and forced baseball bat makers and car companies etc to manufacture weapons.
It something that people wouldn't go for now because trust in the state is very very low and many people would not appreciate their businesses being seized for war production when its wars they don't agree with. A few would for the massive profits but would come under heavy criticism.
If Western Countries mind their own garbage business, and not interfering to other Nations, going to their Waters, try to change Regim, then there will be no war. We do not see Russia, China, Iran, Syria, Lybia, Yeman Countries coming to English Chanel.
In basic, it is a "leopardisation" of the Challenger. Being an oddball, and still using a rifled instead of the de-facto standard 120 mm smoothbore Rheinmetall used by Leopards and Abrams; and thus requiring specific munition, was a logistic hindrance; and the reason why possibly Ukraine hasn't deployed it more, in favour of the different Leos of different vintages but which share many elements, and the most important munition. Despite some markmanships achieved, these don't reflect the most common firing scenarios, and the advantage of smoothbore in legit terms: is that being practically airtight the explosion impels the projectile at a higher velocity and thus more penetration due to a higher kinetic force, while a rifled looses part of the power of the blast through the spaces of the rifling. Smoothbores were reckoned in the XIX as superior, but the technology to produce them was not ripe, as their tolerances are more stringent, so rifled was used until it reappeared on the Soviet T-64 at the beginning of the sixties. The use of tanks as infantry support fire is also shared by the US, in its last incarnation: the M10 Booker Mobile Protected Firepower Vehicle, developed by General Dynamics Land Systems for the US Army, erroneously nicknamed "the baby Abrams". The US Army avoids relating it as a tank, as it is not tasked to confront MBTs, it only sports a 105 mm gun, but to support infantry and blowing at obstacles and gunned strongpoints ...
You are not right. The main disadvantage of a rifled barrel is not that it loses speed, but that a smooth barrel can easily fire rockets. And it is very difficult to fire rockets through a rifled barrel. Back in 1976, Russia began designing, producing and manufacturing missiles for tank guns. What is the advantage of rockets over projectiles? The missiles have their own engine to accelerate after exiting the muzzle of the tank. The missiles can be made adjustable, making it much easier to hit a moving target. The 9M112, the first guided tank missile introduced into service in 1976, could only fire one kilometer, modern Russian tank missiles can fire 5 kilometers, and most of the missile's guidance is carried out by the tank's electronics. This is why rifled tank barrels became obsolete many decades ago.
Thanks Brian!
990M ... way to keep in under a Billion :)
I'm surprised Britain can even refurbish C2s into 3s. Didn't they lose their only rifled barrel factory a couple years ago?
The new ones have german Rheinmetal 120mm smoothbore guns.
@@fredrikhultman557 That’s coming to the end of it’s potential? So they are increasing the bore of the next gun so larger ammunition as well.
Thanks for the amazing analysis, Brian....
Its not clear whether its new or not or who is actually building it.
BAE of course and new or not it looks like a Heavy Main Battle Tank, the very kind that fail almost immediately on a real battlefeild where there are no roads and just churned up and bomb/rocket/missile blasted landscape to deal with.
Impossibly muddy in the winter as well.
They are scrap right off the line, I pity the modern tanker.
Probably China!
Great show, Brian, thank you for your fantastic job here, sharing with us this news ! Your channel and Duran are, by far, THE best in the world, in quality and constant updates !
The Challenger 3 (they were going to call it 2.1 but 3 sounded better) has an integrated hot tea dispenser as the main upgrade.
As was built into the chieftain or some previous tank for real!
So the UK has a brand spanking new MBT..... How many of these will be fielded? This is the same army that can't mount a division of armor or equip it's carrier with enough planes to deploy. SMH
to be a friend of america means you have to serve america's interest which in turn means reduce your military manufacturing so that you have buy weapons from US companies.
Your points Brian, as always, are so well made. Living in the States, we are probably the best example of profit motive over the welfare of the citizenry. My own family sees health insurance premiums taking huge leaps in costs every year and so many areas the government should be addressing, yet the focus is always to have reasons for increasing the defense budget. And as that happens, since only about 10% of americans own any stocks at all, the congress folks, the administration and the MIC itself are the only ones to benefit from this ever increasing spending which based mainly on borrowed money whose repayment burden falls mainly on us, the middle-class. And we lack the power to do anything about it. It sickens me to think what country my son will have when he graduates college in 2-3 years. I have started trying to get him to look towards Asia as he is a pianist and wants to compose music for video games, movies, and he also performs jazz but a killer classical pianist. Oops, sorry, off topic! But I there is no one in government, maybe Sanders, that isn't out to line their own pockets. Thanks for your hard work.
Thanks Brian, you give us the latest on weapons for profit, instead of weapons for functionality and are easily maintained...
At least with Challenger 2 they actually designed and built a completely new tank compared to Challenger 1. I reckon with the UK's anemic defense industry capabilities rebuilding an old tank is the best they can do in a short time to get a more modern tank, instead of designing and building a new one. After all, design of Challenger 2 started in the 80's and lasted well into the 90's, with C2 only entering service in the late 90's. And that was when the UK defense industry was in better shape then it is today.
The Gernans did it. So it is even worse than you think
I honestly think that this generation of western engineers from millennial and gen Z generation are incapable. They learned material sciences along side anti-colonization theory and outdated theoretics like quantum string theory.
They aren't of the same caliber of wisdom those guys in ww2 were or even the 70s-80s engineers.
Most of the UK heavy industry has been gutted and sold overseas. In the case of Rover, literally everything went overseas. Heartbreaking when you think what we had in the 1950s (world beating aviation industry, first commercial nuclear power plant etc)
What did they do add cup holders to it?
Tankies gotta have their cup of tea ☕️
As a by the way, only 29% of US F35s are operation ready at any give time. These at $100m a pop
Plus another 100 million to maintain the plane over it's lifespan!
Brian Berletic stands for good and fast information. In this case, he said it himself, was his information to fast. The British constructed the Challenger 3 more than a year before. They could not know, that the Challenger 2 performes so lousy in Ukraine.
It is not so important. Great Britain has to construct the next tank now. This will be expensive and last some years.
I'll point this out: the Challenger started out as the Shir Iran tank. Yes, its development (back in the early 70's) was financed by Reza Palavi, the last Shah of Iran.
Indeed. IIRC it was the tank the MoD didn't really want.
As always a great program! It's only putting lipstick on a pig, and stating it's a perfect fit! Love from 🇸🇪🇵🇱!
Drones make tank design simple. All you need is
1. A main gun large enough to penetrate fortified infantry.
2. Armor thick enough to protect against small arms fire. Reactive armor only helps if you opponent has armor peircing rockets. Other than that disposable armor plates backed by wood would suffice..
3. A fuel efficient diesel electric engine to limit the amount of resupply missions.
4. A control scheme simple enough for a laymen to drive. It could even be based off rc tanks for all i care.
It looks exactly the same to me other than they've put a furry steering wheel cover on it 🤔
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Plus the driver can wear high heels!
The new Challenger is trans friendly and can be operated with high heels. There's even a make-up mirror for each occupant to prepare for meeting with their American counterparts.
Yep , Everything a modern army needs ,
the guns have been surgically removed.
Reminded the crews too much of certain male parts , not inclusive
You need hundreds if not thousands of tanks. You need the logistics to support them. You need the ammunition to help them fight. You need the fuel. You need trained men. Russia is producing hundreds of tanks a month. What is the U.K. doing?
For the trophy museum, please follow the missile, your designated spot is on the back row, next to the toilets.
The most lethal tank , lethal to whom ?
The outside world or the people inside ..
The English defence mi ister said on live Television. That after the Challenger tank got destroyed. That all 5 crew members survived. Pity nobody told him it only had a 4 man crew. Maybe that is why the Challenger is so heavy. They had to provide armoured protection for stowaways. 😢😢😢
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I highly doubt anyone survived it actually turret tossed
The drones as the machine gun did it with calvary has made the tank obsolete.
Look like Challenger is going to have its own challenges.
Many thanks. Brian.
Stay well.
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We have the same in DC!
This is a tell the UK defense establishment no longer has the human capital to undertake complex and effective large-scale arms development.
The ability to mass produce large diameter turret rings is a key indicator of a manufacturing economy.
The UK can no longer do this in any quantities.
Because a new model would cost one billion+ per unit and take twenty years to reach production,, still with issues.
Im guessing before the end of this year, the numbers of the Challenger 3 will be further cut down to fewer MBTs , doesn't matter how expensive a Rolex is, a cheap Casio can also do the job