Was This Intentional??? - Judging Your Sim Racing Crashes
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Ferrari incident at 10:35 is 100% intentional from #8. He made his intent clear when he tried to block the red car in the earlier scene.
Also its Ferrari Challenge, that series is full of helmets.
i gotta disagree
i think its as jimmy said, a lesser skilled driver
the first clip was just netcode as jimmer said
the 2nd is most likely due to not being aware of your car having a front, and trying to move into the slipstream
and the third, is just braking too late and panicing and trying to slow down and instead hitting the other car
if it was intentional, he couldve easily crashed out the red car way harder. if ur going to go the intentional route u dont give a crap about being subtle
I truly think the number 8 just sucks.
@@Marpurrsa 1st incident was racing incident + small netcode
2nd incident I see what you mean, but they're under braking. Slipstream serves no purpose under braking. It's also not the optimal line.
3rd incident Just cause he slowed down doesn't mean his intent isn't to take out the #17. He could be trying to minimize the impact so he can continue on without destroying his car while also murdering #17. Bake a cake and eat it too type deal.
I think the second clip he is just trying to get behind the guy so they don’t lose much time but could be wrong
@@phantazy5716 It's hard to tell because of the camera angle, but I'm fairly certain that 2nd incident takes place under braking before the bus stop. If that's the case, following back in line doesn't make sense as #8 was already in the optimal line, on the outside. So to me, it looks as if it was a terrible attempt to pit #17 or at the very least murder him. If he was trying to fall back in line, he's a god damn moron because he is not putting his car in the best position for the next corner.
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At 14:10, I'd suggest it was 75% racing incident, 25% 24 at fault.. I think what's happened is the 24 hit too much of the kerb and it unsettled the car which forced it to skip out wide a little bit.
It's a difficult one. Although I'd say that looking at the line, it's reasonable to suggest contact would have still been made imo.
It is a difficult one, so many people make wild lunges at that corner, with contact ensuing. This one was pretty clean by comparison. The green Mazda could have ceded the corner a little bit earlier, but tried to maintain his speed up the hill.
I'd say giving back the position would be enough in that case and watching out if he'd make contact with any car trying the same move for the rest of the race to issue a warning on dangerous driving
Yeah, it looks to me like a case of wrong place wrong time for the 29. The 24 is definitely at fault, but it’s not intentional or due to incompetence, just a small mistake that unfortunately cost the 29 a lot more.
I might put more fault at #24. He cant stay within track limits even after the contact, kinda tells that his attempt was somewhat doomed from the start at that speed.
I'm not sure the black Mazda at 13:40 was going to keep it on the track even if he hadn't had four extra wheels to help make the corner.
Yeah it absolutely hammered that inside kerb which kicked the car wide
I was just about to comment the same.
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Gotta love the ACC mazdas @ 13:14. This mindset is heavily involved in the e racing scene these days. I was on the inside so the corner is mine. There are two lanes, at least, on every straight and corner. You took the inside, until you are safely passed the vehicle, the inside lane is your lane. The outside is his.
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13:55 I think he genuinely lost it because the kerb unsettled the car, you can see his left side getting a bit of air there... depend on how the other car do I'd give a penalty from half to a second post race.
I completely disagree. At the speed he was doing he was always going to run wide and hit the other car. Having raced side by side at that corner a number of times, I always found lifting (if not braking) is absolutely necessary for the car on the inside to give the outside car sufficient space.
@@StevePhoenixi almost always lose if i’m on the inside on that corner, it’s impossible to keep the speed through the inside without hitting the other person, and if you do break the outside will always get more speed heading up to the corkscrew, it’s almost always better to leave the move to the last corner for that track.
I’d have to agree. He did send it quite hard, but that kerb sent him well wide. He was off line tho, so he could have been a bit more careful.
The guy on the inside left no room so ultimately it's his fault but at the same time, there's no point in putting your car in a position where 9 times out of ten, you'll get punted off and then complaining that you were punted off. The guy on the inside was overtaking so you know how fast he's going and you know he's taking a tight line so it should be obvious he's not going to leave you space around a really tricky corner. If you're on the outside, it's your call if you want to back out and carry on or whether you want guaranteed contact.
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Move by the grey Ferrari is defenetly intentional
3:20 Jimmer, you got this one very wrong. The Ferrari turned in for no reason, giving the Aston nowhere to go. You pointed out how the Aston moved about one meter to the left but you didn't mention the Ferrari swerving massively to the right.
I agree with that. Ferrari definitely moved more to the right than the Aston moved to the left. And even if the Aston didn't move left a bit, he wouldn't have had space to compensate for the Ferrari moving over
I believe the aston was in the wrong. The ferrari seems to be squeezing the aston while leaving a cars width, but the aston just doesn't turn with the kink and collects the other guy. Looks like a controller moment with the aston trying to tap steer, but doesn't keep his car close enough to the line
Yup i agree. The Ferrari was clearly trying to pinch the Aston which is aggressive but fair, but the other side of doing that is having the skill to actually keep it steady which he didnt have
@@mrstrider8847 All the time you have to leave a the space! ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE A THE SPACE!
They pinched each other at the wrong time. how’s that not a racing incident?
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20:40 It looks like the 11 gets a small netcode contact at the turn in point that kicks the rear out and causes him to turn in earlier that he meant to. Just looks like a racing incident to me.
15:30 I don't think you picked up on it, if it even makes much of a difference but the track direction moves slightly to the left, and the 8 was actually following it. Do you think that makes any difference?
Exactly what I noticed, I think 8 was just following the track
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18:23 considering there a slight corner I put the blame on the rear car. If that was a bit sharper corner you wouldn't put your nose in there on the racing line. Same principle applies here imo. Plus it really was just the very tip of the nose, the rear car's front axel was not even next to the front car's rear axel. Rear car had to yield that. Plus I'm pretty sure the front car expected you to take the outside line, since that's where you were. I doubt he even noticed you pull up so fast to the other side.
Yes, I totally agree there. Isn't this more about the kink to the left and then the question "what is going straight in that matter" ?
As i see it, the biggest move is clearly on the 12 here. At first he follows the kink to the left somewhat, then the 10 goes inside (who did nothing wrong by that), then he 8 swerves back to the right, where he collects the 8. In my opinion the "gentle" pinching move of the 8 is only minor compared to the number 12's move. And even when he was going straight relative to his initial position on the road, I think that's not okay, considering there's a kink to the left. (extent that idea to a bent, would it still be right then ???)
Thereby, the 12's pinching move is in a way constant and so becomes predictable; so it's probably not the smartest for the 12 to not give an inch !?
Watched it again and noticed a strange cut/jump (or something like zooming out) in the video at about 15:34, which is very strange and makes this a lot harder to judge. (I must say after that), the last little move is on the the 8, but I still think 12 did what I wrote before, so all in all I would maybe just judge this as a "racing incident" !?)
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6:55
That is a very intentional wreck. You can see him swerving in the direction of the guy to hit him. If it wasn't intentional, then he would've braked and tried yo do the turn.
I like these videos. You have quite a fair and well argumented point of view on the incidents
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14:01 No 24 open the steering. He hit the sausage causing him to go wide.
Yup, came here to say this. He could've opened up his corner more and could've kept it off the sausage, but he didn't and sent it anyway. He didn't purposefully go wide on exit, he was just out of control at that point.
15:57 it looks like the 12 car comes back to their right. its a right hander coming up so they should all be moving left anyway to enter the corner. no reason to be trying to pinch someone to the right side at that point. which the 12 car STARTS doing, but then comes back to the right.
that mazda wreck at the 14 minute mark, i think its an racing incedent because the #24 hit the curb on the inside, and just drifted wide because of that.
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The incident at 13:49 reminds me of a bollocking I got when I used to kart - I got shouted at for doing things like the guy on the outside did... I'd come back in after being punted off furious with the guy on the inside and I'd completely blame him. That doesn't matter though. Whilst it's the guy on the inside's fault that he didn't leave enough room which lead to contact, the guy on the outside had ample opportunity to avoid it. Once someone is up your inside at a tricky corner like that, the move is done. If you try and fight around the outside, you're going off 99 times out of 100. You can blame whoever you want, you can post videos on Sim Racing Stewards to make you feel better about it but you're out of the race and you didn't have to be.
It'd be my top tip for sim racers starting out - stop worrying about whether the other driver is at fault or not and look at what you can do better. In this case, the guy on the outside had 2 options - get punted off or tuck in behind and remain in the race.
14:00 I think the 24 just lost control when he jumped the kerb in order to make the corner.
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14:05 The #24 didn't open the steering, it just went over the curb, got thrown into the air and was unable to turn at that point
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The clip at 15:54 you can see slightly that the course turns to the left and number 8 car goes with the turn and runs into number 12 which was just going straight
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9:21 “ really is this the move you’re talking about?” “ nope”
15:36 : 12 drift toward 10, get scared, go back to its previous line but now the 8 is there. i blame 12.
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12:50 thats why Silverstone 2021 was a racing incident.
18:25 but you can see the direction that the car ahead of you is going on. If he just continues forward (which he will, because it's not a segway), you can see the gap that the car behind is aiming for is going to get even smaller. I'm not sure how that would be the fault of the car ahead.
2:26 I'm sorry but I completely disagree, the Aston Martin keeps their car smooth and the Ferrari moves abruptly twice when the car is alongside on a straight. Don't understand why it's hard to give enough room on a straight that is 100% flat in F1 cars.
Aston comes tight to the white line but only because there's a Ferrari encroaching on its space.
I blame this one on the Ferrari but in reality it's probably F1's poor netcode.
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I feel with the Mazdas at Laguna Seca that the as the outside car you are probably better of slotting in behind, as that corner sucks to go 2 wide through.
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4 :52 the black mx5 crapped himself💀
9:20 "what an idiot, closing the door from the outside"
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For the one at 13:12 I definitely agree it was 24s fault but I would also suggest that the 29 was not going to end up ahead through that corner in almost any scenario so, regardless of what the 24 does, the best decision might have been not to fight it and live to fight another day.
But maybe that's just because I don't have the skills to be ahead after that corner when on the outside lol.
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1:00 Both drivers exhibited hilarious incompetence there.
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Mx5 at Laguna, the 24 does get the pass done cleanly, but while I agree he should have ensured he turned tighter on exit, the kerb and bump on the inside does appear to have pushed him a smidge wide? Just my thought. Still right judgement however, the topography of the corner does need to be accounted for in a pass!
What I take from several of these cases is that as long as you don't back out of a corner when you're behind, the other person (who's in front) should go out of his way to give you space. It seems to me the person behind should brake (harder) if that's the case. It doesn't matter if the person in front just messed the corner before that up, you should still do a clean overtake and not just plant your car next to the person in front feeling entitled to space.
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I think the black mazda at 4:00 just lost the rear while on the brakes. Causing the car to cut back across the track a bit while they were trying to save it.