Should I make ONE MASSIVE Lightroom Catalog or Many? Photography Question
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- čas přidán 6. 08. 2018
- Now that I have a new Apple MacBook Pro 15 in (2018) set up at the factory as my main computer. I need to set up a brand new Adobe Lightroom CC Catalog. The debate is do I set up one big one or a few smaller ones? I think I decided on setting up a few smaller ones for all my photos going back years. Maybe I will make a How To Set up an adobe lightroom catalog in the future.
I decided to go with one massive catalog for now. I have organized subfolders and think I can keep it all squared away this time.
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How do you set up your Lightroom Catalog? Is it one MASSIVE one with all your photos or do you have multiple?
1 Catalog per year
One catalog for every single shoot since I have no continuous project. Just events and portraits.
Folders set up:
{Year} / {X - Month} / {Xday - shoot name} /
Example for a wedding on jun 14st:
2018/06 - June/14 - Wedding Anne and William
Inside that folder goes the raw files, LR catalog and jpg folders for the exported stuff. I'm very happy with this organization I've thought since I became a photographer.
I have a catalog for everything since I started on photography (really small compared to the amount of pictures you have) and another for old family pictures scanned from paper or negatives (which is surprisingly big and I don't need often)
I make one for each year.
One big catalog. Keep folders the same as you have them and do your sorting in collections. That is what collections are for.
Print everything
Could you please make an Updated version of this? Please!
One giant catalog because I like it simple and lazy .
I think i've changed my mind and decided to go with one MASSIVE catalog that has all my files in one place. But unlike my old catalog at home, this one will be broken down into folders that are more organized than before.
REALLY? does it slow down lightroom??? Can the mac handle it?
@@mintmindy Curious about this too
But really, does one large catalog slow it down?
@@c.3263 i only have 7000 RAW images and mines quite slow, been trying to find ways to make Lr faster for a while now,.
Hi Jared! How's the massive catalog going after two massive years?
Jared, while I realize it's more than 2 years since you made this vid, it's completely relevant for me as I'm literally just starting with Lightroom to edit and manage photos. My current process is storage by year, then the month, then by client/project. It has worked for me for many years but I want to make sure that this is the best way to proceed and make use of tools available in LR. Hate to see you go through this much agony but it absolutely helps the rest of us as well as the great advice your subscribers have provided in the comments. Thanks as always! Any updates on this will be appreciated.
This man is literally in my brain on this: I keep to-ing and Fro-ing (get it?) on how to organise this!!
I like this little look into how Jared thinks these things through. I'm only using Lightroom CC right now, so everything is online in one big folder. I'm going to suffer down the road aren't I...
I have been using LIghtroom from about the it was first released, and my file structure is, I have a different catalog for each year. In each catalog I break it up by month. Within each month I have directories for each shoot for that month by the name of what/who I shot. I have three network connected multi drive units; one HP MediaSmart Server and two Drobo storage units. I back up to each of these units. I have never had a problem with this system.
He Lawrence, how have you been!!!! How's shooting going?
I use the same structure and works quite well. New Catalog per Year -> Month -> Event Name
Jared Polin Hi Jared. I am getting deep into shooting video with 30 upcoming shoots.
Lawrence Keeney file structure and cataloging are two different things
Each project gets its own catalogue within the photo folder, that way i can access just the photos i need without having to filter through all the other ones, and bring it with me on my portable hdd. when the project is complete I copy the LRCAT folder to my backup drives. not sure if this is best practice, but so far has been working for me
I have one giant catalog over about seven years--hundreds of thousands of photos. I think I am going to start a new catalog for each year. Maybe. I think. Maybe.
It's as if you are inside my head. So glad I found this video.
Thank you! This was really helpful in giving me ideas on my options. Thanks for the Dropbox business recommendation as well.
Congrats on almost 1M!!!
Wowzers... but that was a very well explained way of constructively organising the same chaos i have been scratching my head over for a few weeks now! Nice one JP and thank that incredible Fro for all its help too! 👍🏽
Nice one all the way from England 🇬🇧
All that data is evidence of hard work Fro!
Jared, First off, I would like to say I am a huge fan and have been watching your videos for years! Thank you for all that you do for the photography community! Now, I know this is 4 years old, but I'm currently going through this dilemma myself and after a lot of thinking, reading, watching, and learning, I have come up with the following solution.
My workflow is going to be as follows:
1. Shoot
2. Copy raw files from SD or XQD over to my SSD working drive & my Data drive (8tb HDD)
3. Do my edits on my working SSD drive with its own catalog
4. Export files for client and place on the cloud
5. At the end of a year or maybe 6 months post shoot, move my working files (inside of lightroom) to my HDD which should bring over the edits as well.
6. My data drive will be backed up via the cloud automatically live or via a schedule.
My end result would be 2 total catalogs (older photos and edits from older shoots that I am less likely to reference) and my working catalog that should stay somewhat small and uncluttered...
Does that sound like it makes sense or do you see any flaws in that workflow?
Thank you for the lesson in folder Hierarchy. You are absolutely right. Massive, and time consuming, but beneficial... Thanks for the time...
I am an IT guy and I find the best way is by year then with a subfolder with month and day and a short description. You can make another folder for month, but I do not have that many photos. Then I use metadata to organize my photos. I have over 36,000 photos. One of my Metadata’s top levels is events. One event is Birthdays then I have a list that whose birthday and date it was. I find I can find photos faster this way. Since I am around 36,000 photos a I have an internal 1TB drive which is plenty big enough. This drive is set as my OneDrive folder and as soon as I add or change a file it's uploaded to the cloud. I have found that OneDrive is cheapest way to go. You can buy it around Christmas for around $90 for the year. You get 5 accounts each with 1TB of cloud space and 5 installs of Office Pro for each account. So that’s a total of 5TB and 25 Office installs (for both Windows and IOS). I also back my internal drive to a 1TB external drive. I only had Lightroom for about 3 years. So, I am still catching up on the Metadata of my older photos, which go back to 1998. The old photos where shot with a Kodak DC40 digital camera.
One catalog and then I tag the images during import. The filter part of Lightroom is great in respect to tags and I haven't noticed a slow down at all due to catalog size.
Robb Sutton I remember you from NASIOC lolz.
You have collection for that!
I use one Catalog and use folders like 2017; 2018, inside a new folder for every day!
And I have two big folders for work and personal!
I am looking to get a usb hub/dock. Which are you using in this video? Thanks in advance Jared. Love the videos.
I typically do separate catalogs, however where you’re at it would be a pain. I would absolutely do the organized folder idea you have, however if not, you could always spotlight search on your Mac (or on the lacie drive) and search by dates, year, or name of project as well. Hope that helps!
Super helpful video! I get the catalogue, folder, collections ethos now and am going to create one mother catalogue, however i have around 10 existing catalogues for random projects in the last 5+ years and I want to keep all the develop metadata, all the edits and settings of each photo. When I move the folders around and create a new catalogue, I'll lose all these precious edits! How does one keep the edits and merge them into a new catalogue after re-arranging their file directory?
Put it in one and then selected and export it to new catalogs as the need proves itself. Use tagging and collections for your organizing w/in LR, regardless how you structure your folders by year etc.
Have you considered getting a 10tb Lightroom CC subscription? I’m a big fan of Lightroom CC. My whole library is small enough for the 1tb plan, and it works so well. I can find any photo from Lightroom CC on my phone extremely fast. Especially with how quickly you can scroll through them on the phone or iPad. So much faster than looking for a folder, as all the images are cached for fast scrolling. And the search is amazing. It’s like searching for photos on Google, except all the search results are my own photos. I don’t even have Lightroom Classic installed anymore. To me it’s already history.
Also, you can create albums within Lightroom CC with separate folders in each. So for me, I have a corporate album, and within that are all the corporate shoots I’ve done. Then another for family with all the different events like Christmas etc.
Hi, I have a question not related to the video...
I took photos of a wedding last year but I was still fairly new so there was no contract. I want to use some of those photos to build my portfolio and have on my photography Instagram page. Would I need to have them sign something that allows me to use the photos?
Thanks in advance for your response 🙂
I don't know I'm just getting overwhelmed with family pics.. that's why I'm here..lol..
Do you (or anyone reading this) keep video files in Lightroom?
not for editing but for organization ex. key wording, rating?
or do you use something else?
Thanks
Hey quick question, im one of those people who have 30,000 photos in one catalog. My computer is hella slow and im told having one catalog is bad and the reason for the slowness. My file formatting is the exact same as yours (year,month,date,name) and thats for every project from the past four years. Now i store all of those on my external harddrive only.
If i make lets say 01. client work 02. personal work catalogs can ijust drag and drop within the lightroom interface into those two catalogs or will it mess with the external file location recognition (similar to if you did that for illustrator and then the linking gets broken)
Hope that makes sense.
Man I came for guidance now I'm more confused lol
Personal projects: 1 catalog per year. Clients get their own catalog and if they become long-term customers then I divide the catalog for each year. Photos and Videos are stored in a similar manner, but drilled down further with sub folders titled by Year-Month-Day-Project-Name and sub folders for Raw Photos, Original Videos and Live Work.
Question for you. Did you end up organizing all by folders or are you also working via the collections / smart collections for day to day ??? Thanks for any info.
Jared, I do much the same as you with the exception to where my catalogs are stored. I have recently reorganized my folders into collections and collection sets and store the entire catalog in Dropbox. I do this so that I can access these and make edits where ever I am in the world and on any device I use. I do carry with me while traveling a 5TB external drive and it's simply a temporary storage. All of my photos are uploaded to my server at the same time that I load to the external drive. I can do edits to the photos on the external and post them while traveling and then when home, delete them from the external drive and when Lightroom is opened redirect the target for the missing photos to the server. The catalog keeps the edit and meta data information and I lose nothing. Has worked impecably for me so far with no lag or slowing down of lightroom.
I don't appreciate having my time being spent watching someone bumble around their thoughts and words on camera. The creator edits the video before coming out, but leaves in all the nonsense that could have been chopped to make this a simple and cohesive video. I couldn't get through this one, but thanks for the effort.
I used to have a giant catalog, then realised that they run faster when creating a new catalog for a new project or shoot. Also works well for redundancy and backing up in case it goes corrupt.
Loved this content!!
It's 2022 and I'm pondering this question. I used Bridge for my organization but now that I have nearly twenty years of folders, multiple external hard drives, one rescued hard drive that's totally messed up, old film scan files, and oh yeah - those boxes of CDs from old client work, I've FINALLY decided to work with LightRoom. A fresh start lol. I think I'm gonna leave all that old stuff where it is, and create a catalog going forward. As I go through my old system I can add stuff I think is relevant. Everything else can stay where it is.
All in one catalog!!!!
Capture One sessions are fantastic. Each is independent, tidy, move-able, great for archiving. Every project has its own session.
This is a great idea for a video. I have struggled with this issue as well.
Jack Lydon hello i am a very busy business and i love to help you, like i said to help jared as well, and explain my workflow, whould you like that?
Maybe later. I am swamped right now.
Jack Lydon okay how is best to chat with u :)
See contact info at jacklydon.com
Jack Lydon i sent u a contact form message :)
Minute 6:09, what kind of docking station are you using?
Hey Jared, love your channel and all of its content. Just finished to watch this one video and started to wonder, for how long you keep your old photographs? When do you star to think "ok, this one file needs to go now, it's just wasting space on the drive"? And all aver those lines... Greetings to all the boys, you are a great team!
Good information, thank you. I guess a lot of the same thought could apply to organizing Final Cut too.
Think of Lightroom as a database program with Adobe Camera Raw built in. The physical folder structure of the files is transparent. You can organise within Lightroom using Collections. The beauty of this is that you can have different collections, i.e. private and professional, which may sometimes have the same photo but there is only ever one copy physically stored. Typically for me, the same photo would be in a "competition" collection, a "travel" collection, a "magazine" collection. My photo collection of c.80k is simply organised by date - 2018/08/10. It takes up about 3.5TB.
Love you redundancy plan!
I've maintained a single catalog since I started using Lightroom. I do use an external USB BluRay burner to create archive media backups, just to be safe (in addition to an Aegis external USB HDD, cryptographically secured for my master images as a secondary backup). I have two other external USB HDD's that I take when I travel.
i'm only a minute in and I love you already. I am facing that exact problem only without actually understanding how the duck the catalogue system works. I've just been uploading pics ad hoc and now have a lovely big fat mess that's a pain in the arse to work with so trying to learn how to actually make this whole experience less painful. I have to add I am not a logic brain kind of person so this is really challenging for me.
I learned by force with lightrrom when one of my external discs failed I lost all the material in my catalog for 2 years, so I decided for each session that I created an independent catalog, so I do not consume so much lightrrom resource open all sessions in a single catalog and also do not run risk if I happen to lose everything.
@Jared Polin how do you keep your data synced between The Factory and the Loft? How do you do off-site backups?
So the syncing part is basically not at all. I will take new shoots that I have here and back them up at home on an external raid. I mention in this video that I use dropbox for business to have all my photos and videos backed up in the cloud.
I used to create a new catalog every month. I'm now planning to move all of that into one catalog. Not exactly sure how I'm going to do that yet. That's why I'm watching videos like this one and many others.
I use two different catalogs in Lightroom. One for all digital photos I made with a digital camera (started in 2000) and another catalog for all scans from older photos (1987-2000). The digital photo catalog has almost 60.000 photos and I had never any problems with speed. The photos are sorted by year folder. So the first is 2000, the last 2018. Then, in each year-folder, I use the code year-month-day followed with a very short description of the subject of the shoot. This system works very good and I love it. The real sorting comes in Lightroom in the collections and collection-sets. There I can sort the photos by subject, location or whatever. Lightroom has many tricks for sorting and finding photos (colors, stars, metadata, etc). So, the best for me is working with one big catalog with all my digital photos. The catalog for my scanned photos is much smaller. Maybe I will merge my two catalogs together in the future, but for now, I am very happy with my two separate catalogs.
Have the same issue, I also want to start fresh on my new Mac.Your video is very useful, got me thinking of some possibilities that may work in my own situation. BTW, i love you i9 MacBook ;)
Hey Jared. I really enjoy watching your videos. I regularly will not ever comment on a CZcams video but this is a topic I discuss myself all the time. The setup I currently use is a 500GB SSD Drive that’s connected via Thunderbolt to my 2015 iMac. That SSD drive is specifically for Lightroom catalogs and also set up as the main Scratch Disk for Photoshop, InDesign and Illustrator. Right now I run two businesses, one being Wedding Photography and another one for Corporate (Events, Product, Commercials shootings). I use one catalog for each business as they are two completely different things to look at at once. Each catalog will not occupy more than 10-15 gigabytes of space, keeping in mind that each have about 100k to 150k images. I only generate Embedded and Sidecar and all editing to XMP as the picture is modified. I also have another one where I will just keep pictures of me, my wife, leisure and personal projects. So I don’t have to worry if anything happens to my catalogs (Although they are backed up to the cloud via Dropbox.) The good deal here is, I have never experienced slowing down on my catalogs. As I have to deal with many shootings on a regular basis, I need to comfortably move back and forth in my Lightroom Catalog, and if I ever need to look for something, i can just head over to library, and look for what I need, as the tagging and searching features on Lightroom are amazingly stunning. The time you take on the editing and archiving process DOES influence a lot in your overall productivity. I have before worked with other photographers as a second shooter, and if they use the multiple catalogs option, i can just right-click and export a single folder or set of images in a new catalog. If that’s ever necessary. Adobe has made a very good job through time and I hope they keep that up. Good luck on finishing that setup!
I'm a software developer, so I know a little bit about this. It doesn't really slow it down because it's a database. It does help to have sub-folders such as years or topics, don't just put everything in one folder. Databases work by using tables, which can be thought of like chapters in a book. When something is needed, it can jump right to that chapter instead of looking at each page for the item.
yup. Also you have to be careful about the previews file, that get's pretty big.
Dude I know the feeling. I have been doing photo & video for about a decade and have roughly 27 TB of files I need to sort, trash, and compile....I get a headache just thinking about it LOL. Best of luck with the new setup!
If one were to use individual catalogs for shoots, what would happen to your Smugmug galleries if you use that service via the plugin?
Would you examine Edelkrone products?
I keep on catalog per "creator" (one for me, one for my daughter, etc) plus I keep my timelapse photos in their own catalog because they take up so much space.
I organize by date, and have subfolders for year, month, day.
Basically I follow Peter Krogh's Dam Book "bucket" scheme.
I keep the main "digital negatives" on my DeskTop RAID, and the laptop just has smart previews.
That way I can remote mount the RAID on my laptop and edit a single photo, but when travelling I have web size copies of every photo I've taken since 1974.
I'm up to 400k photos right now.
I started using different catalogs for drone photography, real estate, weddings, travel photos, etc. But then things started getting confusing. Do I put aerial shots of a house on the real estate catalog or the aerial catalog, weddings and eSessions on different catalogs but delivering to the same client. I can only sync 1 catalog to my mobile, so wich one? Travel to share with family or weddings to share with clients. Life got so much easier when I created 1 massive catalog and optimize it often. The catalog is devided in categories (my old catalogs are all cstrgories) then by date and project name. Becouse of this duplicate files where eliminated and many catalogs (now categories inside the catalog) got merged.
I had seperate catalog in past but after jumping among them for getting a photo I decided to go one catalog even it is slower but no close and open LR or just searching I have hierarchical folders for each year with 12 folders inside for months then the Jobs inside even if it goes slow it worth it
Always tunning in
I do all my color and tone editing in Capture One and retouch in Photoshop and export the finished tiff from C1 (that sharpening is perfect), and then import that tiff into LR and drop the raw file next to it. In Lightroom I have 3 main folders; Work, School, and Personal. I don't do much work that needs to be put in Lightroom so it's pretty empty. For School I have a subfolder for each class (when I used to edit in LR I'd make subfolders for project). And Personal is just random day's I've shot something and misc. The big thing is collections and tags. Basically just hashtag your images and you can create smart collections for them, or even just regular collections. I have some for general genres and for Insta. But like I said my work barely ever touches LR and it's basically just for archiving personal work.
I have the same way of organising. On my external harddrive I have folders by year. When I started with lightroom, I created catalogs by year. That works quite well.
I just started with LR a couple of days ago. CC immediately filled up all 20 gig by pulling in my iCloud photos. Deleted that and started over...created two local directories on my MBP internal 1TB SSHD storage - I have an SSD for Catalina...the folders I made are named LR CC and LR Classic, and Classic has 2 sub-folders Personal and Work. I set up with 2 catalogues in Classic, one in CC - in there I only keep my very best work. Everything is backed up to iCloud and Google Photos, and a 3TB external drive. So, pretty much the same logic you used...your vlog popped up just now because of the few videos I watched yesterday. Cheers 🥃
Wow that's a lot of photos funny I have been trying to reorganize my stuff but I haven't been working with digital that long so I still have a ton of film that I'm scanning.
One catalog to rule them all! Well, one 'Working' catalog for recent work that I merge into the 'Main' catalog once a month. I use separate folders for each client that I work with and, for personal travel projects, one folder for each city. Within those folders are sub-folders for each 'event'.
Thats a really good idea!
I Spend so much time creating and placing my pictures in folder perfectly names everything..... Is there a way I am just using my own file structure? When I import a single folder, its not showing me in lightroom what parent folder this is... so basically I have build a new file structure in lightroom additional to the one I have on my computer? Or am I missing something?
I’m a pro photographer with two different businesses. I have two catalogues across three HDs. One is for my archives and is on a large slow HD as I don’t need to access it regularly. The other two drives are for my live jobs and my large portfolio. My live jobs are on a 1tb SSD drive for speed and my portfolio is on a 3tb HD that is reasonably fast as I need to access it quite regularly. It might be better to have those two split into two catalogue but I frequently need to drag photos from a finished shoot into my portfolio so I want them in the same catalogue to make that easy. Also I organise all my jobs by job number. Not sure it’s the best way but I can’t figure out a smoother one yet.
It definitely depends and can vary especially by genre of photography but I use a master catalog and break the folders into how I would remember the shoot. For me remembering what year I took something in is ridiculous when I can't remember what I did yesterday so for me its whatever I remember the shoot by all in a master catalog. I do have a few different layers of folders for a couple different genres though (all in the same catalog). The speed of lightroom wont really slow down regardless though it might take a couple seconds longer to launch
I got everything in one catalogue. I use year-folders. I have photos I took on that year in that folder devided into date folders. I might start putting them in month-subfolders some day but for now thats where they live . All the rest I do in collections and subcollectiosn. I also use that same year-system in the collections. Thats my routine anyway. All the best!
I know this is old but Im an Apple Aperture users.... still, going over to Lightroom shortly and this seems like a nightmare, Aperture just took care of it at import, into date and I would just add some short description after the date.Does lightroom import the image into a catalogue, is it copied or referenced ?
I recently try to upload my photos from last year (2022) and it is 5TB+ so it is killing my PC, Lightroom is generating previews and it takes ages...how you manage to upload all those raw files at once or forlder by folder? Also I bought QNap 6bay RAID but it backed up my drives as all the photos from one drive in one folder not like it was ordered during the years in different folders so it is a mess now you can imagine all raw files, all the videos all the jpgs I postproceed all in one giant folder of 2, 4, 5 or 8TB... and it is blowing my mind and I am even not sure is it possible to delete it and try to do it per new with any chance that the hdd backup keep the original folders on its place so I can use the organisation I did during the years in place. Help 😢
Well this is ridiculous good timing this is what I have been doing today
I was taught in my digital asset management course to stop using folders because it gets way too messy and confusing. If you have a travel folder and a family folder and an animal folder where do you put the photo of you riding a camel in Egypt on a family vacation? I literally just keyword everything on import so if I need to find a photo taken in Egypt with my sister I just type the keywords in to search it.
As for as catalogs currently I just have a jobs catalog, a personal catalog, and a video catalog.
My question is should you have a separate catalog for your video content? I have some jobs where I do photos and videos for the client and it might be a pain to have to bounce back and forth between separate catalogs to retrieve them but I also don't know if I should mix photos and videos
I make a catalog for each year. And one for business and one for personal. I don't want to have to copy one huge massive catalog when backing up. I can just backup the most recent year's catalog and previews each week. My older stuff from 2000-2010 is all in one catalog since I was using 20D and 30D and those old Raws are tiny. But since 2011 I have to separate.
Exactly how I do it but I’m wondering if I need to leave Mac photos for Lightroom to organize my images and be able to view them from there.
Hi Jared,
Interesting talk !
I have two questions though :
1. When moving all your old photos to these new catalogs, won’t you loose the editing you might have done on these photos ?
2. About storage, if you only have the Lightroom catalog file on your computer, you can not edit the pictures when the source picture is not here right ? (Meaning the external harddrive is not connected)
So how do you do when you are not at the factory to edit your files ?
Thank you !!!
Not sure about #1, but for #2, you can simply sync the photo file destination back to where it is now stored. Super easy to do when you click the question mark that shows on your image or folder when it says "location cannot be found" It'll walk you through reconnecting it and boom
Organise the catalogs in a rough way that feels fine for u. If you want to separate images generally you can do that there. Then add relevant keywords to the photos. When you done that you use collections within lightroom to make your final Sorting by for instace Photoshoot, type of job, images types etc... so one big catalog organized roughly in folders. With relevant key words and detail organisation with collections. My catalogue filename strugture is for landscapes as this. "YYYYMM-CountryCode - Area - Sceene name". Within that catalogues i put subfolders like this: 01 - Original RAW - (Camera used), 02 - Photoshop edits, 03 - Final edits TIFF, and an Exports folder.
I have one large catalog for each year for my personal shooting and small jobs then I create a new catalog for each significant job I do (Multi-day events, Conferences, Weddings, etc).
I also make sure I turn on write changes to sidecar files (XMP) so wherever I back my RAWs to (small HDDs, home NAS, offsite backup drives) I have all the edits with the photos and not only in the LR catalog. This also helps as I ingest and rate my photos in Photo Mechanic before importing and editing only the photos I want to edit into Lightroom.
Also hierarchy wise I have 2 photo stores, one for my personal business (solo jobs, weddings, personal shooting) and I have another for my event media business which are where I tend to have multiple shooters or are just really big events and want to be seen as an organisation rather than an individual.
Within those two stores I have a folder for each year then a folder for each job in "YYYYMMDD - Job" format so it's always in date order. If its a multi-day job i'll name the folder "YYYYMM00 - Event" then inside have a folder for each day "0 - Thu", "1 - Fri", "2 - Sat". If it's an event where I also have other photographers shooting for me I will also have them use the same structure as well as customise their filenames to them plus camera number (i.e. DP1_, DP2_, JL1_, MK1_) to aid identifying who shot what. I will also make sure their camera clocks are in sync with mine if multiple togs shoot the same thing from different angles).
And depending how i'm delivering final files sometimes I'll have the JPG's renamed to have "HHMMSS_" infront of the filename so in any file explorer the photos from multiple photographers and camera bodies will be in correct time order as not all things will sort by photo taken exif data.
One catalog per year per camera body, filenames start with the date. For work in Capture One, I use sessions for individual shoots, and catalogs for organizations with repeat shoots. Working folder is Dropbox, time machine auto backup. Joel Sartore who I learned from includes a tag after the date like "s" for stock photos or "e" for events.
Please do a quick video about your hotkeys with your tablet ! Love your work !
One massive db...separated into sub folders for years which have further broken down into subfolders for months...I learnt the hard way...when things go pear shaped it is much easier repairing one database than many. Dont forget to Keep backup copies of the original photos...just in case the hard drive borks.
I have one massive catalog for my personal and professional photos. All my personal photos get saved onto one NAS and the professional photos save to another NAS. My file structure is similar to what you are using. When I am out shooting and importing my photos on my laptop in the field, I can move the folder within Lightroom to my NAS whenever I get back home and everything works out great. Folder are our friends.
Jared Platt made excellent tutos on the subject.
One catalog, all stuff has metadata to find photos and videos with filters, collections.
I don't use often folders rather keywords list and meta.
Regularly i save modified xmp.
I always print my favorites... very interresting video thx
When you enter a library you search in one library don't you ?
If images can belong to more than 1 catalog, I am considering breaking each year or 6-month period into it's own catalog, and then every 6 months, importing all images into a single catalog for those times I want to edit/compare across periods/catalogs. Am I crazy?
Thanks I’m using your new system
How did you import all those folders into LR correctly?
I'm currently organize my photos right now from my old files and files i had to restore from drives that died (I think I've lost some photos unfortunately). but I've decided on a massive catalog and use collections to organize my photos into "folders" in lightroom. My photos on the drive are organized by year and month folders. but my collections helps me keep organized within lightroom because I'm not going to search for photos directly from the drive itself so the naming/folder organization on the drive doesn't matter to me. but i can see where the problem for someone like you that needs to be able to share all these photos with more than one person... not sure if there is a easy way to do that
Jared, should i take the photography plan from adobe or not? I want your opinion about the subscription model...
i use it.
Ok but you are a pro, and i am not....
I split mine by year. Folder naming is similar to your original YYYYMMDD-Shoot. Works well for me except for over the new year changeover when I have to jump back and forth a bit to edit pics for clients.
This is exactly an issue you experience in Systems Engineering: bucket/shard/object sizing for performance. You truly have a great organization method in your file system and I would recommend one large catalog (or as few as possible) because Adobe does a good job caching only the parts that you are using at the moment (at least from what I experience in LR6). I truly wish there was synergy with file system organization and applications: if only there was someway for applications to notice the way files and folders were organized and created database-like relationships with that. Source: am currently a systems/software engineer focusing on storage (used to be an SSD firmware engineer).
What do I do? I go in loops as well.
Also what’s your 6 degrees project
I run a 2 TB catalog and it runs fine. Makes searching for people is very fast in latest versions. Yes, it was slower earlier but it runs great now.
I think I gonna try doing the premiere workflow on my Lightroom as well. meaning each project will have its own catalog saved together in my hard drives along with its files. I don't really ever "go back" that often to other projects. plus doing this will help going from my MacBook on the go, and then open those catalogs on my desktop as well.
What happened to the 6 degrees project video series you were doing? I don't remember you posting all 6.
one's coming this month.
Well, this depends on what your doing with your photos, but typically year > month > project is the most clear and simple way. If you are doing a project a month then you could just go year > project but if your doing 10 projects a month you should break it into year > month > project.
I used to do one catalog per year and would save it in the folder with everything from that year.
For a photo to be In a catalogue, does the raw file have to be on my computer or can it be on an external? I’m super new with all of this
Matt Whitacre you can use internal or external drives. Lightroom indexes files so you must plug the drive where are your files for lr beeing able to find them
Follow tutorials, books, video. Cataloging is different from file management, this is very important to understand.
It can't definitely be external. I upload all my photos to a NAS, then import into Lightroom. Lightroom simply keeps a reference to the source file which can be anywhere. I backup all the catalogs back to the NAS which in turn is also backed up to the Cloud (Amazon S3)
I know it's an old vid, but thought I'd share my hard learned 'basics of cataloging' rule. When you use catalog software the underlying folder structure is just a storage facility. Retrieval is handed over to the catalog. As long as the underlying folder structure is logical and consistent that's all that matters. Once the content is in the catalog you can retrieve photos in all kinds of ways and change how you do that as often as you like, never touching the underlying folder structure. Building the catalog doesn't end with the import, that's where it begins. The joy of cataloging is letting go of the folder structure as a retrieval system. The horror of cataloging is the gradual realisation that it never ends...and yes, one enormous catalog is the ideal starting point.