WHO MAKES THE MOST MONEY?! | 1ST CATTLE LEAVE THE FARM FOR 2024
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2024
- In todays video the first of our bulls and bullocks for 2024 have gone to the factory which means it’s time to sit down and crunch the numbers. Who ends up on top in the battle of the breeds and is more profitable?!
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These small improvements every year make massive improvements if you were to look back 5 years. Good to see the rubber mats made a difference and 1000 more adds something to the piggybank for father Phil to to buy new toys for himself
Great to see you doing well with the cattle. You deserve it.
Great video thanks for being open And honest about your hole job
Looks like the Bulls are doing good Phil Happy you are doing well. Lots of hard work goes into the job.
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Father phil calling out random numbers in the middle of the night like its nobody's business
He's counting sheep ...... trying to get to sleep.😆
Just love to see Father Phil he and Lee work so well together they lift the spirits of the world.🌍 So so good luck.😉
thanks Phil, a very clear presentation of costs. You folk know your business very very well. Thank you.
Excellent information, very interesting.
Growing all your own feed, keeping costs down. Rearing Dairy cross calves, Jersey/ Fresian/ Holstein on rubber, sounds like a good plan.
Good luck to you !!
fair play for being so honest
The price of frx calves will go through the roof after all that and the other breeds will plumbet 😂😂😂😂
Good video Phil, some fine cattle there
love the honest overview
Its all progress lad, keep getting better, great vid
Everything is looking good ✔️
Well done farmer Phil with your fresion bull and bullock's keep up the good work with them
Livestock are going good, My local marts in Tuam and Athenry really started the new year off to a good start
Great video. Brilliant analysis. Goes to show buying the cheaper calves and developing your system to finish them is where the money is made. Keep up the good work.
'The moral of the story '
It takes the Age
to pull the Scales ⚖️ 💰
'Mature Precure ' 👍
Great job Phil yere brillant liv your dad some great people well done
Ye must be happy with the new yard set up it looked well and the lighting, it was like day time.
Happy Sunday evening.Will watch when we get home.So so good luck.😉
Good well explained video phil
Absolutely intrigued to find a Fresian Jersey X make good beef cattle - but you can't argue with those figures. The diet you have them on for finishing is obviously doing the trick. Good luck with growing more beans and beet this year.
Thanks Phil
Great video
Tis great to be moving on stock, lightening the load in the yard.
Best of luck with the rest of your cattle.
Very interesting video! I quite agree with you, they don't have to be flashy continental type to leave you more money. Just like sheep, when buying in store lambs, the cheaper to buy hill breeds more than often leave more money than the expensive to buy types.
if u can keep the hill sheep at home
Really interesting video, thanks.
Thank you for a very informative video and I found it very interesting on how the different breeds compare to each other.
Excellent video, really interesting
Very interesting video
I would think you are getting slightly high live weights as they have full bellies straight out of the shed and that is giving you a higher daily live weight gain and a poor percentage killout Probably 20 or 30kg extra in the stomachs from say if they were only half full. . Good that the factory prices aren’t 2 bad atm👍
The good stuff Phil.
Can't belive you're always sending so light Bulls to the factory. I'm Holstein Bulls from 4-6 month to 18-22 month.
No grasing. Only tmr in tge Shed's on straw. Average weight's are over 750kg.
Under 700kg life weight we get less Money from the factory. Looks like the whole Process and goals are much different here in Germany.
Greets Phil.
What is in your tmr ration
@@joeobrien8459
0,1 Minerals
0,3 Barley Straw
2,0 25/3 Cattle Feed Readymix (Soymeal, Rhy, Salt, Lime etc.)
3,0 Spring Barley wholecrop from after Winterbarley Harvest
5,0 third Cut Silage
20,0 Maize Silage
That's Finishing per Head per Day in kg.
We're feeding less "Powerfull" in the Finishing, pushing the young Lads on hard in the beginning. So there's no real Finishing Period like yours
Great to see the transparency in the weights Phil. Definitely a few more rubber mats would be a good investment if not for the price but to give the cattle a bit more comfort
Good stuff
Great video as always 👌
Well Phil, did you get penalised for being dirty? From the video I thought they were compared to our own. Great to get the money flowing in.
Great video Phil
Fascinating video, very interesting indeed. I hope to see the final results when they have all gone. That is the true result. Do you also record days on farm and days to slaughter please? That way you could get profit per days on farm!
Ps - what would happen if they were on maize only as the forage and supplemented with barley/wheat cereals ? Just asking as we will be very short of grass silage in 24/5 due to reseeding rotations and cleaning ground of thistles !!! Thistle are a local curse !!!!
Finishing beef is where we want to be with our Salers x Charolais cattle. Ie. Taking them right through to killing as we do with lambs.
Thank you Phil, true, honest reporting.
That cider vinegar seems to be a good job
Michael Dillon will never be dead while you're alive Phil!! Haha
Phil would you ever consider buying cull cows and fattening. Lot less hardship, bigger output at first but you’ll be be sending them to the factory much quicker.
They where probably all January early February born calves too which helps too
Boils down to profitability...if can make.more net with frX ...especially given your first cost advantage ...makes sense ...does mean you have.to keep to slaughter but u are well set up for that ...sell more through online and farm shop and leverage the "farmer phil" brand to increase profitability...Great you tube channel and love the openess and honesty ..not a trait the average Irish farmer known for 😂
Should have added wit more dairying in ireland and less suckler herds therw are a lot more dairy breed calves or crosses...
New cow yard upgrades looked like they worked Phil .How do you and Father feel ?
nice video very interesting
Very good info. I'm surprised the dairy men don't finish some bulls in a shed based on your figures. Sell their beef cross calves at good money and finish any Friesian bulls. It would give them another option if the milk price is low.
all about nitrates these days .............................no room for passangers .....
Must have been fair poor herefords....
Do you get the hereford / Aa bonus?
Also need to take account of a heifers calf v a cows calf.
Without food what do we have? More power to the Farmers.
Keep the jersey beef those burgers are amazing be a good video and some promo to do a sample day for a few locals like in the butchers
P.s im beside the airport so not local tryna get a freebie 😂😂😂
There are some good black and white stores on Tipp Auctions and calves are £ 10
do you not get any extra for the angus from any Angus scheme? It would be interesting to see a comparison for continental bull beef against Fr bulls too and not just bullocks
You should be getting a much higher price for your Angus's considering that they are bullocks and the Angus bonus as you are hitting the correct grades and fat scores. If you can line up a load of Angus's bullocks you will easily get a decent flat rate price of 5.5 a kg if not more
The aa bonus would be more like 25c to 30c above on bullocks and heifers .
Here in the US , Angus is considered premium meat in the stores.
Angus is premium meat in Ireland, most other breeds go for manufacture beef.
The only premium that makes AA suit is that the cuts are smaller and fit on the retailers shelves. Can anyone tell if the taste of AA meat is nicer than a lim Cross. It's all in the marketing of the dairy beef
Agree totally its all about the marketing, we have all breeds here and a good.friesian is as good as anything else if given time.
A great video and very interesting ...I had a hunch that there was a lot to make up in the difference in calf price . fair play for growing all your own feed . If you switch to all bullocks will your overall feed consumption per head increase due to keeping them longer? Thanks again for upload.
if we switched to bullocks over bulls it probably would yes
Aren't the bulls and bullocks the one age?
Spring 22 calves? 24 months
Bullocks in general take a bit longer to reach the same weight as a bull because of lower dwg the bullocks in the video we’re older than the bulls
Down in Gortatlea mart in Kerry 650 AA making 2000 and 580 AA making 1850 bullocks would not get that in factory
Hi Phil
How many kgs of each of barley beans and beet do they get each day
Nice video of the cattle, would you look after more of NRX or plain Norwegian Red calfs this season? :)
i would yes buts its down to what the farmer has for us
Great video!!! Would you get docked money for sending them off with horns at all??
Have you ever explained why you do some cattle as bullocks instead of bulls? Am i right in saying they're the screws? If so, it's not really worth comparing the performance of under pressure cattle
Is there any difference between the cattle that have the concrete bunk for the silage vs just in front of the barrier? Wondering if they have any difference in access and if that makes a difference
Lots of new machines coming home with all the money your cattle are making😂
Very informative Phil. Would the breeds of cattle from Germany that you featured in recent videos yield a higher price at the mart. On another note, I need some slurry spread on my garden in Boston, Ma. Can you deliver? Approximately 1/4 acre.
They would yes we had some a few years ago and they were fantastic
Hi Phil,
Do you get any factory bonus for the Angus and Herefords?
Do you need the extra acres of beet Phil seeing as you weren’t able to pull all you grew ? Would you be better off pulling it a few weeks earlier and make sure you get it all instead of trying to get that last bit of growth on it
😂don’t know if you relished it was a little wet this year, all beet men were struggling to get 100% of there crops. Some poor blokes only managed little over half
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Give us the cost on the feed per kg and how much it cost to grow your oh fed
What is the breakdown of kilos ration are they getting
The figures wouldn’t be great reading for Hereford and AA breeders? Calving ease has completely demolished growth rates in dairy cross off spring
Probably a daft question Phil, what if any would be advantage of having suckler cows on the farm ?
To be perfectly honest I am biased to dairy beef so I’ll not answer that question😂
Would your growth rate and fat score not be down to your TMR lacking balance in protein with maize and beet being low. Also would some of them bullocks be 3 years old at slaughter and have extra year cost compared to the bulls who would be 24 months at slaughter.
Verry interesting the friesan are bigger more profitable great what the apple cider vinegar does you said it before
Do you send them to abp
Bet the one by you Phil with white face is a big bull
Is there an animal nutritionist that could add some incite into to why your expectations are falling short in some regards to your killout metrics?
It would be worth your while scoping out if it adds value to your operation.
You're competing against animals fed on meal. All the R+D has already been done on that stuff. It could be a few small things that need change in order to bring up your metrics. The cost vs benefits would need to be weighted up which you are aware of.
Would it be worth your while putting one bunch of cattle on a supplementary diet of bought in meal next year as a control group for your setup? These would be your own numbers and not working off of someone elses who may have a different setup. You may have previous data of doing this and it was also below expectations, if it was then you cant ignore it and use someones elses data for best in class as there could be other things wrong with your setup that are nothing to do with the feed.
The rubber mats are an example of this and air flow in the shed etc. could be another.
Its all well and good trying to refine all these things until one bad year of weather puts a stop to the whole thing 😅.
The machines you have are working, albeit some have their teeding problems from time to time but as time progresses they will need to be repaired and upgraded. This all feeds into the overall overheads.
I can tell ya why weights are down this year it’s because last summer was very wet
I was visiting a friend yesterday and went to collect a bunch of calves with him from another guy I know during the course of the conversation we had, the dairy farmer said that he wouldn’t have many bull calves anymore, what he meant is that they would only be using sexed semen for replacements from now on he used forty straws last year and had 32 calves from it 31 heifers and he had used 60 straws of ordinary semen for replacements and so far he had 36 calves 14 heifers and expects another 7 or 8 fr calves , we talked about this for a while and he says that as far as he can tell most farmers around him are not going to use any conventional semen for fr. Anymore, he says that he is sick of giving away good calves for little or nothing and most dairy men feel the same,he reckoned that the only lads that made money out of fr bull calves were the dealers and they set the price so except for Joe and yourself and a few other cute boys who took advantage of the situation why would dairy men keep producing bull calves for half nothing when they don’t have to. You hearing similar stories from up there?
weve farmers who have used sexed semen for a few years now and are taking a break from it as the conception rates for sexed semen are lower causing more repeats and over a few years its caused the calving window to strech out to far so theyre using conventional now to shorten the calving block again
If every dairy farmer uses sexed semen there will just be an overload of heifer calfs in a few year with no one to buy them, problem is dairy man want 300/400 euro for a 2 week old calf it's the milk makes the money not the calf
Not 100% sure how it affected beef animals but would the highly unusual year of grass growth have had anything to do with overall lower carcass weights?? I know Dairy lads saw big drops in usable protein in their milk last year partly due to not feeding as much concentrate but to some extent too the grass quality was back a bit too.
Can you let us know what the TMR cost you per/hd/day based on a 400kg animal Please?
hey man, what does the kill out numbers mean??
Kill out % is the % of live weight that is the carcass so a 500kg live weight with a 250 carcass has a kill out of 50% if that makes sense
@@FARMERPHIL3690 thanks!!! And cheers
How come they have there horns do they not get de budded before they come to you ? As they are full bulls isn’t it a little more hairy with there horns.
Do u not dehorn them when they r born phil ?
Dairy farmers drueling at this video😅I’m one
Why was there no AA or HE bonus paid?
Yeah if its cheaper to buy and you get the same on sales it just good buisness
Full weigh straight outa shed is not a true reflection off weight. Off a saleyard weight ud would b hitting ur 50% kill out
Jesus the horns on those yokes would destroy you
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Like I've always said Friesian are the breed for profit, regardless if you milk them or flatten them
They cost a fortune to fatten
Just from memory are these the ones from the year they were difficult calves with your Jersey boy experiment, i,d put a bit of killing out percentage and the Herefords falling behind down to there start as calves, not every calf is a prize winner, the average is what they are in the bank,
they are yes
@@FARMERPHIL3690Phil wasn’t it spring 2021 you had the jersey calves? Did it take an extra year to get them finished if you had to keep them 3 years?
I be more worry about the bull walking around behind you then de bulls trying to eat de camera
Id be more worried about the state of your spelling.
@@jamesmccabe1702 what would you call them then
No mention of the Protest or issues effecting Farmers . Lots of videos from Holland and Germany but no mention of the Protests over there either ? ?
id only be mentioning it for the sake of mentioning for clout im not chasing
Phil, why not talk to Joe seels regarding molasses in the ration.
Joe doesn't give a breakdown of costs like that.
@@hughcarrigan7824 but maybe he might on a private chat. Worth a y
we used to feed molasses and found it added nothing of value for us
Molasses has zero nutritional value, it just makes the feed tasty for the animals
What factors are you going to and what price are p o r if any r
Is 18 x 5 not €90 did you say €45
I guarantee it aint us farmers
Are you joining the farmers protest?
A good result but......Hard earned cash......jus sayn...
U take no notice in going into the sheds with them bulls and they could kill you on the spot
You remark your disappointment with the poor kill out. It would be possible the factories are paying you less than what you actually kill out at. It might be worth your while trying the marts. Instead of going to the factory and depending on their grading and kill out, you’ll have a few men bidding for your stock. Atleast if you’re not happy you can take them home. I think it would definitely pay for the beef X breeds you have. Also make an interesting video