Wilt Chamberlain was better than Michael Jordan, in his mind
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Are we going to forget the muggings MJ took from the Pistons and the Knicks? I think he gets along in the Wilt era just fine.
Nothing stopped Oscar Robertson who was smaller than Wilt from averaging 30. So why do we think MJ would not have dominated...now I admit in a full game MJ wouldn't drive to the basket as much against Wilt but in the same breath Wilt never faced someone with the tenacity of a Jordan or a Kobe Bryant so it would be interesting to say the least. Oh and if we are saying that Bill Russell had that kind of tenacity then the outcome might be in favor of Jordan as Russell still managed to beat Wilt not on a 1v1 basis but team wise. RIP Mr. Chamberlain still the most dominating player in league history(physically speaking)
I think Wilt's point is that MJ could do great things outside the 'domain' of the big men of Wilt's era but not so much within that domain. All those fancy moves to the basket would have ended in collisions that would have knocked MJ on his arse, over and over again.
Michael dominates Wilt's time 6 foot 6 with ups going against larry costello slow and 6 ft 1 , or howie komives,arlen bockhorn and that list goes on cmon, however NEVER underestimate Wilt,especially a motivated Wilt, he could do anything and could dominate a game if he was hell bent on it at any time period in the NBA
@@RalphKetchum Perfect!!!
@@user-ff4lr2jj5r 80's and 90's also had big, dominant centers. He'd get to the basket back then just as he did in his own time.
Wilt was an incredible athlete and definitely one of the greatest players of all-time. He could play in any era.
He couldn't even do well in his own weak era. Wilt would not survive the 80's, 90's or 2010's
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 for sure deranged. thats why old injured wilt demolished prime mvp Alcindor and hakeem cry to ralph sampson vs 42 old Jabbar
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 Ask the record book how "well" he did in his era? Lmao!!!
@@jcb4826 the record book?! Lol Wilt played against the worst teams of all time a minimum of 10x a season, and even the best competition back then was under matched lol yet he still couldn't win anything Even with stacked teams his entire career
@@PIP...33 Wilt never demolished Kareem that's a complete lie, to and the only time Wilt's team beat Kareem was when Jerry West was carrying him. Wilt had plenty of help from day 1 and still held those teams back. Learn NBA history
Wilt Chamberlain may be the greatest athlete ever play. At his size he was ridiculous. If you haven't heard of any of this or his feats, they are legendary. Look them up.
Wilt was a force of nature. He was an athlete's athlete, with the ability to run track, high jump, body build, play volleyball... (list goes on).
He wouldn't just play in any era, he would have been scary in any era.
Can you imagine Wilt Chamberlain playing in the 80s for the Philadelphia 76ers with Julius Erving, Moses Malone, Charles Barkley, Maurice Cheeks, Andrew Toney and Bobby Jones?
Moses, Barkley and Wilt together would have formed the greatest rebounding trio of all time.
Wilt played with Hal Greer, Chet Walker, Luke Jackson, Billy Cunningham, and Alex Hannum as head coach and still couldn't only win 1 ring and wasn't even the 4th best scorer on his team
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 none of them are superstars u deranged. Olajuwon played with barkley pippen drexler got swept by 6'1 john stockton.
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 None of them are superstars u deranged. What was last time greer or cunningham led nba n anything like OR WON MVPS LIKE COUSY OR SAM JONES OR HAVLICEK DID ?
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 LOOK PPL WE HAVE DERANGED PERSON. SHALL WE CALL JOHN STOCKTON TO SWEEP BARKLE OLAJUWON DREXLER AGAIN?
The opinion that Will Chamberlain is the goat must be respected. He is high up there.
No way. The dude played in the weakest era with only 8 teams and still only won 2 rings.
How aint bill better
@@wedabestradi096 Bill Russell is most definitely better than Wilt Even tho he's severely limited offensively
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 for sure deranged. thats why old injured wilt demolished prime mvp Alcindor and hakeem cry to ralph sampson vs 42 old Jabbar
@@hakeemolajuwon4352 Bill Russell in 146 duels average less ppg rpg apg bpg spg and minutes per night than Wilt. What Olajuwon did ? By kenny words he lace shoes only 5x cause more teams means less competition. Guys like Bryant Reeves Muresan who barely walk on floor 🤣
Never once did Jordan hate on Wilt or any past eras but instead he stood up for them. Jordan didn’t meltdown like wilt in the playoffs and Finals is the difference
Lie more
@@chauvintookaknee4blm268aunt no lie how many rings does silt have?
N how many r teams did he play against
Yeah u know basketball …,
Psshhhh!!!!
Notice how Michael Jordan never brought this up he said he did not know if he could beat Wilt or anything of the guys prior to him he never got to play.
does that make him a coward, or just humble ?
@larrylucid5502 we know Jordan love a challenge. I say humble
@@larrylucid5502 makes him humble because he had respect for the guys the paid the way for him to play. We know he would have enjoyed playing against but like he said we don't know who would win that match up because none of them were in the prime an some of them have died or retired before they could play Michael
You’re full of BS. Mike doesn’t bring it up because he respects all the players whenever was asked he said look there is no way to tell who would be better all the place before him were great and that’s what he believed
you never heard of Jordan talking down about players of the past or present.
What you will here is Jordan has said numerous times that he hates being called the goat because it’s not fair to the other players
@@Artlife0831 👏 👏 👏 couldn't say better myself
If we cut the B.S out. Wilt really has a great debate but the B.S will not be cut out.
Na he like James harden in the playoffs
@@jonoak what? That's crazy.
@chrisrobinson8339 look up his playoffs numbers then check him in the finals he wasn't the same in the playoffs
Wilt in the modern NBA would be a better Giannis, which is scary to think about. But with today's more lax dribbling rules his raw athleticism in the open floor would be unstoppable.
Bro Shaq would own Wilt Chamberlain
@@curtayars7344 No
@@curtayars7344sorry no
@@curtayars7344it depends on the rules. Wilt cound't play the in the same style as Shaq because the officials called an offensive foul.
Lol no shaq would get layed out. Wilt was Andre the giant strong benched over 500. Wilt was a worldclass athlete in multiple sports and still holds records in track and field even now during the steroid era. Shaq would have retired. @@curtayars7344
What i like about Wilt is that he was a gentleman on and off the court. He had such and advantage in terms of phisicality that he could have just crushed everyone but he looked out for smaller players, many times just opting for a fadeaway instead of running over people. So as a man i say Wilt, as a player its Jordan. There are lots and lots of what ifs if Wilt played the same time as Jordan.
exactly. Physical and stronger but no way a better basketball player than MJ. MJ has it all basketball wise. No other player comes close.
Wilt Chamberlain died in 1999 so Jordan was retired at that time. Wilt didn’t miss any of Jordan’s Championship years. He just missed his Wizards tenure.
Shows that this guy don't know what he is talking about
Well we know for sure Wilt would destroy LEFRAUD!!!
JUST GOOGLE KAREEM VS DRJ 1 ON 1. SEE HOW CENTERS DEAL WITH JORDAN SIZE. MJ IS SORROW COPY OF ERVING. CENTERS WILL ALWAYS BE GOATS OF NBA. WILT 1, KAREEM 2ND, ADMIRAL ETC.
@@PIP...33 I respectfully disagree, I saw MJ DESTROY CENTERS!!!
DOC and Kareem were old when they played!!!
The man is livng rent free in your head,whatever arguement you might have you have already lost
I feel like each of these men played their respective positions as close to perfectly as we will ever see. Mad respect to each of these men and how they played the game. Imagine them playing together!!
JUST GOOGLE KAREEM VS DRJ 1 ON 1. SEE HOW CENTERS DEAL WITH JORDAN SIZE. MJ IS SORROW COPY OF ERVING. CENTERS WILL ALWAYS BE GOATS OF NBA. WILT 1, KAREEM 2ND, ADMIRAL ETC.
@@PIP...33 YOUR ALL CAPS REPLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY POST. Don't give a F, what your opinion on starting a team is. Especially you saying start with Pippen...man......Shut the F up.
Wilt broke a guy's foot when he blocked his shot and brought him down to the ground with the ball. I think Wilt is right about driving the lane in that era. Wilt was not a mean player btw he just was extremely strong.
Jordan would win in a 1 on 1 with Wilt because he has a better mid-range and long-range game. He also has quicker hands and better handling skills.
Wilt had a lethal fadeaway and post moves like a bigger faster Hakeem. Just because he didn't have a crossover doesn't mean he didn't have a bag.
LOOK FOR WILT with the globetrotters
@@CornellD.Cavendish If you're playing with more than 1 on 1, those skills are really helpful, but they're somewhat dependent upon someone else providing the ball. For 1 on 1 you need handling skills, speed and a wide range of scoring. It just suits Jordan's game better.
A closer match-up would be Kobe vs MJ, although I still think Jordan wins.
@@mattjones1776 JUST GOOGLE KAREEM VS DRJ 1 ON 1. SEE HOW CENTERS DEAL WITH JORDAN SIZE. MJ IS SORROW COPY OF ERVING. CENTERS WILL ALWAYS BE GOATS OF NBA. WILT 1, KAREEM 2ND, ADMIRAL ETC.
@@mattjones1776 LOOK PPL WE HAVE A DERAGED HERE. TELL US WHO GUARDED SHAQUILLE ? MJ OR DENNIS ? U CANT BE GOAT WHEN U CANT STOP SHAQ 1 ON 1. WILT IS BEYOND SHAQ CAUSE HE ALSO HAD FADEAWAY MID RANGE STAMINA SPEED.
Facts
wilt was stronger faster and jumped just as high as mj. His stamina is unmatched. Jordan would struggle
Wilt wasn't faster, stop it. He was fast for his position. He not out running MJ on any day.
Mj ran a 4.3, Wilt ran a 4.6 same as LeBalco.
Stronger? YES, quicker? NO!
KILLER Mentality? MJ ALL DAY!
speed kills size! no matter how big. Thats science.
Wilt will probably miss more often than Mj.
Wilt probably wouldn't see the ball once Mj goes spacing mode and drowns him on the floor.
No player is beating Mj 1 on 1, you need a Bad boys-like tactical team to do that and you still gonna need some prayers and eat your Wheaties.
Let's put it this way Wilt would struggle far more than MJ.
Mj gets the ball first, most likely, he not gonna miss. Wilt will occasionally IF he got the ball first.
My money is on Mike.
@@hainavidotcom your bias is clouding your judgement. The fg% part has me lmao. Mj not going to miss is also a joke statement considering he shot a worse fg%. Wilt could stop a sky hook, the hardest shot to defend. He could stop mj. But can mj stop wilt? Doubt it.
Case study: Doc vs kareem 1v1. How would mj stop the fade bank? The dunks? He simply wouldnt. Your whole speed argument is nullified by a 1v1 half court setting too lmao whole argument is covered in bewty juice showing where you pulled it from
@@RF-zn8xx Doc was already too old when he went against Kareem 1 on 1. I saw it LIVE! poor analogy. Dr. J is not cat-quick like MJ.
Wilt is not stopping a prime athletic MJ in NO UNIVERSE.
Mj gets the ball first, HE NOT MISSING! makem takem, Thats how you stop any offensive counters. Speed is gonna kill anything Wilt does. You keep talking the sky hook block. Kareem does not have a bag like MJ, no player does. Wilt has too many weaknesses where Mj has NO WEAKNESS. One ball pump fake with one hand he is gone to the rack before Wilt can react.
Now if Wilt got he ball first, he could back him down, but he is not making all of them. All it takes is one miss and its game over.
No one person is beating MJ, it takes the entire team to beat this man and you need Wheaties and prayers to do it. WE HAVE THE HISTORY TO BACK IT UP AND WE SAW IT. For WIlt not so much, he crumbled in the brightest lights.
I got Wilt ranked #2 all-time behind MJ and its not close.
This is coming a fro ma former pro hooper who played in the 90s.
@@hainavidotcom dude you act like mj has a better fg avg. He doesn't. The rules were also adjusted in mjs favor. They discussedthis in front of bill walton and mj had nothing to say after that. Mj has weaknesses and it showed at times. before he ever had an all star teammate. 1v1 in 99 a rookie scored 5points on him. You bring up speed like I didn't just shut that down. .2 or less in a half court setting is nothing. You forget wilt was a track athlete with records like hes slow lol 4.6 barefoot. Mj did nothing without all stars. Played in an era with much more teams spreading talent out more. Mj has no chance in any world at stopping slow fat shaq 1v1. Add in elite jumping and speed and a fade bank and mj would be in trouble. He would be alone. No triangle. No ball fakes cause obviously can only shoot 1v1. Alone.
1v1 is very different.
Coming from someone who only lost by 1 to D Wade 1v1
@@hainavidotcomtell BTM to upload your comments. Typical MJ logic
I think the best quote I had heard came during the 50th anniversary of the nba. Wilt and MJ were discussing who was better. Wit had the final say. He said, “the rules were changed to make the harder for me. The rules were changed to make the game easier for you.” Both great players both could and did dominate a game. I would have to say I think Wilt is better one on one in their prime.
You to remember Wilt seen all of MJ’s Bulls careers as he passed in 99
7:32 - 7:39 That's not what he meant at all. What he meant was that MJ was the first basketball player that:
a) made basketball such a great spectator sport by making his game so exciting to watch even for non-basketball fans
b) most importantly, negotiated his salary successfully on account of his success and the increasing success of the game overall, thus opening the way for others to do the same and
c) won huge advertising contracts on account of a) above.
He did not mean by any stretch of the imagination that other players should pay MJ because he was great.
Or to put it shortly Wilt was saying they made a lot more money because of Jordan.
@@joshportie yes, exactly - much more eloquently put!
The reason why we are inclined to make such fictitious comparisons is because they were both incredible athletes and the fact that we can never know who would win a game between them is precisely what fascinates and, at the same time, taunts the mind and that it makes us entertain it by indulging in such impossible mental experiments. They can never be answered and for this very reason will keep being asked for as long as people play basketball.
Have you done a show on Alex English? Love the content!
I love them both
5:17... that's it right there... if Wilt was in his prime, would a prime MJ be able to get off anything other than a bunch of crazy Steph Curry 3 pointers? And I'm talking about a game of full court 1 on 1...
Imagine Wilt with Michaels drive and attitude, that would have been unbelievable .
8:27 Again, how do you define value? If Wilt was one side and MJ on the other, the rest of the teams are absolutely equivalent players (still quite hard to say this as MJ and Wilt held totally opposite positions in the court and therefore the rest of the team cannot be perfectly equivalent because of this simple fact) would you still consider MJ's team the more likely to win? I have no other way of defining basketball value than this one.
you missed out on the story of wilt with a college team vs show times lakers... maybe u dont know it, but google it.
otherwise there was a famous conversation between wilt and michael... and when wilt got up his final words were: always remember for you they made the rules easier and in your favor, for me, they made the rules more difficult.
so yes wilt was the best player ever as he was a freak of nature, a phenomenon
JUST GOOGLE KAREEM VS DRJ 1 ON 1. SEE HOW CENTERS DEAL WITH JORDAN SIZE. MJ IS SORROW COPY OF ERVING. CENTERS WILL ALWAYS BE GOATS OF NBA. WILT 1, KAREEM 2ND, ADMIRAL ETC.
6:18 and playing based on which rules? 60's NBA rules or '90s NBA rules? Not that it would affect the end result in my opinion but would definitely affect the score.
But this is not a fair comparison to be hones, not just because of the height difference but because each player has learnt to play a different game as dictated by the demands of the time. If MJ had played in the 60s or 70s, then we would know. He'd still be one of the greatest. Vice versa for Wilt.
I think Wilt and Jordan were both fascinated by the other one. I mean they were such statistical outliers during their eras that the comparisons were inevitable, even though they were very different players. I think Wilt would probably win 1v1, just like a young Shaq probably would, and just like Hakeem probably would. They're just hard to compete with, being as large and quick and smart as they were (Hakeem and Wilt particularly).
In 1v1 I'd bet on Wilt. I think MJ could score against Wilt, but I can't imagine some one to successfully guard a player when there is a 6 inch height advantage. Unless it's LeBron James who can't score on older, shorter and less athletic Jason Kidd and passes the ball away. Or can't stop a smaller Jason Terry on defense.
But in a 5v5 team game I think MJ is more valuable than Wilt, so I'd pick him.
Most great players say that their era was the best. Wilt had a huge ego too so it only made sense that he'd criticize MJ.
I think that it would be a very interesting match-up of Jordan vs Wilt, as both players have the power, determination, and skills to make it really interesting
Great Video, I have to agree with you on your opinion on MJ vs Wilt aswell as on MJ vs Lebron. I recently heard that the NBA secretly advised their Refs to call less fouls therfore allowing the games to be more physical (noted exception the Lakers still get alot of foul calls) and would like to know your opinion on this, personaly i think if true it's a good beginning but they still need to call traveling and carries more.
You can't say 60s and 70s was poor play. Then say 80s and 90s is great, then say now is bad play again. That's just stupid. Either you say players have gotten better through time. Or you say greats players were great regardless. You can't pick a time in the middle and say those players were the best. It doesn't work
Would not bet against either... Wilt for his unmatched strength and physicality along with his skills. MJ for his indomitable will power to find and exploit weaknesses. Basically, nobody has matched Wilt's physical gifts, but nobody has matched MJ's mental ones, either. Sure would have been fun to watch them battle.
MJ wasn't smart
Wilt was and will always be the greatest force to ever play the game. No one will ever lead the league in all three top categories. The highest season scoring average, The highest rebounding average for a season and career. And still the only man to do both and lead the league in assists.
Wilt would be the best player in any era. With the advent of modern medical science, nutrition, and coaching he would be even more dominant now than he was in his era. Imagine what the record books would look like if he had been able to stay fully healthy for 20 years.
Wilt was a freak for his time. But there was no opposition other than Russell.
Dude, look it up. 10 hall of fame centers from back then.
My God one of my favorites topics... Well here is my opinion... I think wilt going to win this one... I saw a video with shaq and wilt handshake... If we wanted he will grush shaq hand... he was more athletic than shaq... Jordan has difficulties to guard magic.. at coach brown set that in a pickup game wilt dominate magic and other All-Star players.. in his forties.... If you tell me that I have the opportunity to see only one game in my life I want to see one of Jordan's game... But I think weilt to was most dominant
Wilt was great and could play in any era. That said, i watched MJ’s entire career and I saw him go up against every big. MJ never had trouble with any big because he was too fast and agile. His ability to get up in the air quickly and his ability to change hands and use the backboard and rim to shield his shot pretty well nullified the bigs. Wilt was strong and fast, but he was not quick. Not compared to MJ. Picking between Wilt and MJ I’m still taking MJ.
1 vs 1 and 6’7 vs 7’2 I think it would be a tie because Jordan would dominate the perimeter but Wilt would dominate the paint
I never saw Wilt live, but I suspect he would have been amazing in a later era. I would have loved to see him go up against Shaq in their primes. Neither ever got to play against someone else that physically dominant.
Michael was great no doubt but he was a hard ass with other players. I know Bird messed up a lot of his games against Boston. He was glad when Bird retired.
When Larry retired, Michael had already won two rings.
Oh! by the way bird have a 5hof vs 1 only superstar rookie mj lol!
@edwingustilo6594 Lookb what Michael said to Larry when he retired?
@@stephenreiner1523 look what Larry said about mj? When Jordan dropped 63 points in playoffs games series🤔
Imagine Wilts records if he had 2-4 more years on his career and came out of college early like MJ or many of the greats today.
Would still only have 2 rings
Wilt is one of if not the best athletes of the 20th century. He dominated in every sport that he competed in. Track and field before the NBA and he started a pro volleyball ball league after the NBA. He holds multiple NBA records and would hold more if he hadn't been told to stop scoring so much. Hecwas incredibly strong,fast and agile for 7'1 and 275lbs. Not to mention he's vertical was I believe 42 inches. When I think of being dominant and versatile the only other names that cross my mind are Bo jackson and Deion Sanders. All 3 are incredibly are specimens and I think that younger people especially don't recognize true greatness just because they're not seeing it happen now.
I wish wilt could have played in his prime in the 99’s against so many legends at his position.
Could Rodman guard Wilt Chamberlain ??? 😮
you are kidding right?
God no!
Jerry West was doing great in era dominated by Wilt. I believe MJ was a bit better, so he could still dominate
no one could beat Michael 1v1! the man was amazing in his prime! strength, speed, shooting, endurance! we're talking about the best Michael, right!? they can line up as they want... Michael from '88. to '93. is the best basketball player in the universe! whoever watched it knows what I'm talking about. point! 😊
Wilt Chamberlain was a once in a millenium athlete. Unbelievable athletic ability and his basketball game was super solid. I still think Wilt is the best player in NBA history and he certainly sits on my all time starting five. Wilt would crush Jordan one on one.
Great video, I’m a huge MJ fan and your question merits a long answer in my opinion. I think 1 on 1 it would be a great match, of course in the paint Wilt would dominate Michael because he was a freak athlete, he was much taller and bigger he had a very efficient jumpshot, which is very underrated, and his mental sharpness and mental toughness were as good as Michael’s, but MJ could beat Wilt with fast moves. I think Wilt might beat MJ but not by much. With that being said, I believe a team with Michael Jordan would beat a team with with Chamberlain only if MJ had Shaq in is team as MJ wouldn’t be matchup with Wilt and any center MJ had in any of his team would be crushed by Wilt! It’s unfortunate Wilt died so young because I would love to hear him talking about today’s game and I think he would put everybody in his place.
Wilt was a freak athlete. But the league had half as many teams in Wilt's time. Not just height and athleticism, but strategy was different in Wilt's time. The insane rebounding numbers of Wilt and Bill Russell could not happen in later decades.
Two eras - two totally different positions. Like comparing apples and oranges. Wilt was definitely the most dominant physical freak to ever play. Jordan was the greatest showman and elevated the sport like no other. Both are on my Mount Rushmore with Kareem and Lebron.
Wilt was the most giftet athlet ever. Speed strenght power... just a real life superhuman.
What is absolutely ridiculous is he played all 48 minutes of the game . No subbing out. To play that level the whole game year after year is nuts. His endurance and stamina get overlooked .
There are 2 issues that youngsters who weren't around the game back when Wilt Chamberlain play need to understand. When people say that the game is different , they should ask how and listen. Because, in fact, there are 3 things that they should know: 1st no 3 point shot, 2nd no dunking and 3rd no carrying. Without the 3 point shot, big men dominate. No dunking, little players like small forwards and guards would have to learn how to shoot over big men like the George Gervin finger roll. And lastly carrying which was also called palming the basketball which was a turnover. Watching the game now and comparing it to the game back then, there would be waaay more turnovers. And the crossover dribble which MJ and AI used heavily and is now a common way to handle the basketball would not exist.
MJ is a class act and sensible..He respect the players that come before him.
Are people really that stupid, or are they just faking it? To anyone who thinks that Wilt is ahead of Michael as a player, I will answer with look at his numbers in the Playoffs. Not a single time did he have leading numbers in the Playoffs, as in the regular season. And he played the most minutes of any player in history, both in the Playoffs and in the regular season. If he had continued to play in the old way (with a lot of shots and points), he probably would have had the highest average in the regular season (the same applies to Michael if he had not returned to the Wizards to play there for two more seasons), but in the Playoffs, where it matters most, he is not even close to Michael. Wilt averaged six minutes more per game than Michael during his career and he played in a time when the game was played much faster, with a lot more possessions. Plus he played much closer to the ring, and therefore less chances for misses, as soon as he moved away from those positions, his percentage was in free fall, which is very well reflected in free throws, which he performed terribly.
The problem with the tiresome GOAT debate is that people don‘t look at the pre-Jordan NBA. John Salley once said in an interview that Jordan himself would never describe himself as the GOAT, and I can see why: Jordan grew up at the height of Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain, and both Russell‘s ring count and Chamberlain‘s statistics are still insane. But there‘s also Oscar Robertson (considered to be better than Russell and Chamberlain by many contemporaries), Jerry West and of course Kareem. It‘s not all about MJ vs. LeBron, although I still say that the best players of any generation would also hold their own in any other era.
MJ , Wilt , Kobe, Kareem and Bird were ain’t loosing
The tragedy is wilt didn’t have much of a supporting cast or coach in the majority of his career. He didn’t really win until he had Jerry west and Elgin Baylor . Unlike bill Russell who had 8 hall of famers and maybe the best coach of all time . And nothing to take away from bill Russell , he just needed some better players and coach .
Wilt has his strenghts, Jordan also... tough matchup between these two... Just like Wilt said, it all comes down to what is required of you from your team and your coach. MJ has the greatest highlights of all time, but i still would have given it to Wilt in their matchup. Great comparison and point of view BTM.
WIlt was very good, he could have played in any area, but let's not forget that he couldn't defiet Bill Russell, I still think MJ would have find the way to score against him as wekk and defiet him.
Bill dominated him
Wilt said they made rules so he could not dominate, and that later they made rules so Jordan could dominate. Let's analyse it:
In Wilt's era, there were no teams like the Bad Boys Pistons, so removing that in Jordan's era would allow both Jordan and Wilt to dominate if they played in Jordan's era. However, the rules made against Wilt was also applied to Jordan, yet Jordan dominated, so if Wilt and Jordan played in Wilt's era with that rule change in effect, Jordan dominates and Wilt wilts, and mind you, Jordan competed and dominated stronger and more athletic super Centers.
Wilts a monster. Jordan is too. These guys are killer ballers
Wilt was a beast
I think it’s the competitive nature of wilt
But on the other hand if you imagine Wilt coming into the league in the 80s or 90s
It would be interesting to see but it will never happen
So for me the goat debate in any sport doesn’t make sense
I always wondered at what age he peaked... When I 24, I had reached the peak of my strength, speed, and endurance as an athlete... And wonder it it was similar for a 7ft dude like Wilt... He could jump so high for his size, ridiculous...
6:26
WOW!!!!
I didn't expect that!!!!
Most people (ludicrously) refuse to give Chamberlain his JUST DUE. It's a FACT that Jordan was elated and relieved that Hakeem Olajuwon couldn't get out of the west, because the Sonics matched well with them. It's also a fact that the Rockets had a winning record against the Bulls during the Bulls first three-peat. If Jordan couldn't handle Olajuwon (no disrespect to Olajuwon's jaw dropping talent), WHAT is he going to do against the all-around athleticism (ran track, threw the discus, high jumped, among many other things, not to mention his staggering stamina and strength) of the FORCE that was Mr. Wilton Norman Chamberlain?
In a team game, Wilt vs. MJ is tough because their teammates in the match-ups matter. Wilt would have to have a fast, athletic big man on MJ's team to try and contain him (cough Bill Russell). Without someone to guard Wilt, it would be easy inside baskets for him.
The NBA is so different than it was decades ago. When you are comparing Wilt's skills from the 60s to MJ dominating the 90s, it's not really fair. As big & strong as he was, what if Wilt Chamberlain played in an era like with David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwan, & Patrick Ewing? His game would have been TOTALLY DIFFERENT! Plus, l do remember as a child when "you didn't disrespect your opponent" like that. Jordan was being "hard fouled" in the 80s starting his career, until he convinced Stern to change the rules for him Yes, absolutely he would have been crushed pulling fancy moves like he's known for in the paint in the 60s. A great point by Wilt. As far as one-on-one, Wilt was a Harlem Globetrotter! He could handle the ball very well for his size. Plus, most of us have seen MJ yry to guard a taller superstar like Larry Bird. There was one video that l saw that really made it clear how elite Wilt Chamberlain was. In the off-season, Magic Johnson & several of the Lakers players were playing pickup games. They played against Wilt who had a bunch of college players on his team. There was some kind of a disagreement as far as the score & if the Lakers players had actually won the game. Infuriated, Wilt demanded a rematch and said that nobody was going to score on his team. They said that in the rematch, (a retired) Wilt Chamberlain blocked every single shot at that end!!! Not to mention that man was in his 50s at the time!
Wilt was a great athlete, no doubt. Skill-wise, I’m not giving him the edge over MJ. Wilt was physically dominant and that was his greatest strength and what he capitalized on. That’s why a majority of his shots were dunks or close to dunks. His size almost made him as if he were playing against little kids. On top of that, he played in a weak era. MJ on the other hand, played in what is arguably the toughest era ever. MJ is a naturally gifted athlete whose game evolved over time, depending on the challenges he faced. If Wilt played in MJ’s era, I’m certain MJ would’ve found a way to evolve his game to beat Wilt because of MJ’s high IQ. That much said, we would still never know, that’s why MJ never considered himself to be the GOAT because he never played against Wilt. But from an observer’s eyes, we know MJ would’ve found a way.
Wilt was dominant. Physically imposing and athletic. BBall IQ as well. I'm a huge Jordan fan even though I am also a huge Knicks fan. MJ killed my 90's Knicks. In a 1 v 1 in their primes. I would think Wilt would win that but that's not a given. IDK if it would be easily too, b/c Jordan can hit 3's when ever he wants to (even though he didn't need to in his ERA) - so that could be a differentiator if he changes things up and shoots 3s on Wilt.
kudos for the Arnold reference to Wilts strength. imagine Wilt in todays NBA with modern sports science training and diet. He may have been able to make Shaquille look weak. lol
Without modern stuff wilt would still stomp shaq
100 % agree MJ is my Basketball God ,but 1 vs 1 nobody can defeated Wilt , Nobody
Jordan IQ would have him scoring at will like any era with his athletic skills, he would have used his deadly jumper, vs wilt critic of jordan doing 360 dunks all game.. wilt would have adjusted to play in jordan era but would be a hof loser like jordan other victims..
With all do respect if I was Wilt and destroyed every page of the record book i'd believe I was the GOAT too.
MJ#1GOAT#23AIRJORDAN
The NBA made a bunch of rules against Wilt to make the game "fair". The NBA made 1 rule against Mike to make the game "fair". The stats also don't do Wilt or Mike service since both were asked to reduce their scoring in order to help their team get more involved.
Wilt is an All Time Great, but nowhere near Jordan! The main thing separating them = the Post Season!!! As Great as Jordan was in the Regular Season, he was even better in the Post Season!!
As Great as Wilt was as a Scorer, in the post season, he averaged over 30ppg four times. He led the post season in ppg just Once! He averaged 22.5 ppg for his career!!
Compare that to Jordan. In the Post Season he averaged over 30ppg 12 straight years!!! He led in ppg 10 Times!! Career he averaged 33.4ppg, highest All Time!!
Plus you add in the 6 Titles to just 2? No contest. Jordan easily and by far the GOAT!!
How about you don't copy what I already wrote 3 hours earlier even though you didn't bother to _upvote_ what I wrote earlier, and we both know you saw it.
Players like Wilt and MJ really are real Century one in a life time Type Players Babe Ruth iconic like, Prime Wilt was a nightmare just like prime MJ till this day none of these players really have a real comparison to the likes of Wilt and MJ
Is no one going to mention the obvious about Wilt? Sure, he is arguably the greatest athlete to play, but he was a center in an era where he lived around the rim. Percentages for Wilt are different, layups are easier than a fadeaway mid. We know Mike would have just been stacking mid range Js on Wilt. A fun 1 on 1 that we will never get to watch, but I would pick Mike because he had so many weapons to beat you with.
If you wonder how Michael would do against Wilt in one on one, look at Dr J vs Kareem. I've seen the videos of that contest in an NBA contest. I felt sorry for the Dr who was my favorite at the time. It wasn't even close.
MJ gets along all era as the top player
"he tried to pile up his assists. So that meant Wilt would only pass it to guys who could catch and shoot. And he'd never pass it to Chet Walker, because Chet always had to be pump-faking or use a dribble and take away the assist."- Matt Guokas
"Wilt's incessant search for individual records indicated to me that he never really understood how the game should be played. Russell made us better players. Wilt, in my opinion, had the opposite effect."
- Bob Cousy
Wilt honestly thought the best way for his team to win was for him to be in the best possible setting. He'd ask, 'What's the best situation for me?"
- Butch Van Breda Kolff - coach of the 1968 and 1969 Lakers
"I'll say what most players feel, which is that Wilt is a loser...He is terrible in big games.
- Rick Barry
In Wilt's 7 scoring title seasons - the highest scoring numbers of his career, Wilt's teams had:
A 22-30 playoff record (0.423 win%)
Only 1 Finals appearance (1964, lost 1-4 to Celtics)
And 0 championships.
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Man Jordan is Faster, and his basketball IQ is higher. And Jordan loves a challenge so he'd still drive to the middle.
?Faster? Maybe first 3 steps but I doubt it. Wilt was an incredible 100m runner. Way faster than Lebron was.
Wilt was easily to most individually dominant player we've ever seen and a great example of a big that didn't just use gis size and actually had a bag. But Bill Russell was a better winner and team player as well as a crazy basketball mind (only player to coach their own team in league history), Kobe wanted it more, players like Dr.J or Dream or Steph or AI were more innovative, and MJ was a better total package.
Honestly not sure who takes a 1v1. I think MJ smokes him much of the time with a significantly faster first step from what I've seen. But few players have ever swatted down shots and locked down the cup like Stilt. Idk.
Wilt 'Ihogged the ball so much I scored 100' says MJ would have been benched for nit being a team player 😂
About to react to this!!
Most great NBA players, like Wilt, defend the era they played in and claim that it was the best in NBA history. That's just human nature. Wilt didn't play in an era of strong competition or a time where many teams had a chance to win a championship. Russell's 11 rings easily solidifies that point. Wilt had a huge ego, he was a big-time story-embellisher (slept with 20k women, could bench 500 pounds etc. etc.) and he liked to get as much attention as possible. MJ's early domination took attention away from Wilt and bruised his ego because he was always asked about it. I think Wilt was also jealous of the money that MJ was making. MJ would be the GOAT in any NBA era, in my opinion. Wilt's only real knock on MJ was that he was relatively small. So what?! MJ was 6'6" and 200-2015 pounds which isn't at all small when you have a 48 inch max. vertical, massive hands and are you're so athletic that you can dunk on anyone so quickly that they don't have time to react with a hard foul. Of course, Jordan was fouled and hurt a few times but nothing that kept him from attacking the rim. Rest in peace, Wilt.
For me seeing Wilt blocking Kareem Abdul Jabbar sky hooks demonstrates exceptional talent. MJ is a GOAT but also lucky 90s basketball got more mainstream and when sub continent and China got access to cable television 90s Bulls was ruling. Else the 70s and 80s era was just as good. Only after mid 2000s NBA went down the dumps. Again this is my opinion based on my seeing 90s growing up as a team and working my way to past and current NBA.😊
Agreed. I'm taking Wilt Chamberlain every single day. Jordan would have no chance of guarding Wilt.
JUST GOOGLE KAREEM VS DRJ 1 ON 1. SEE HOW CENTERS DEAL WITH JORDAN SIZE. MJ IS SORROW COPY OF ERVING. CENTERS WILL ALWAYS BE GOATS OF NBA. WILT 1, KAREEM 2ND, ADMIRAL ETC.
@@PIP...33 Jordan couldn't guard Chamberlain on his best day. Wilt was a world class athlete, and had the ability to make life miserable for Jordan. If they're playing one on one it will be a half court game. Advantage Chamberlain.
Well you do have to remember, they play different position👋
Matter a fact, Wilt vs Shaq one on one would be better.
@@russconklin737Jordan has NINE DPOYs and TEN Scoring titles in a league with MORE teams than when wilt played. I love Wilt, he was a beast but MJ Dunked on 7 footers regularly. Wilt was not as Quick as MJ and didn't have as many offensive moves as mj THO Wilt was a SUPERB athlete, MJ was a STUDENT of the game... found your weaknesses and EXPLOITED them. Wilt not so much. MJ all day.. becsuse of what I just said AND we know that Wilt would be talking trash to Mike and WE ALL KNOW What happens to mikes opponent when they do that. There are DOZENS of players who can attest to this. There were even COACHES telling their players NOT to Trask talk Mike. Just shut up and play.
Again people digging up dead men (not the author of this clip tho) to belittle mjs greatness. First Bias now Wilt. Smh
The Pistons and the Knicks were considerably rougher than anything going on in the 50's or 60's.
Might as well include the Pacers, only other team to take the Bulls to game 7 in the playoffs.
Do you want to actually Livestream the proof
It’s more impressive to watch a smaller man dominate the game rather than a big man. Big man is supposed to dominate in the paint. A 2 guard like MJ is far more dangerous in my opinion.
Because he can score in a variety of ways that the big man can’t.
I’m not taking away Wilt’s amazing athleticism. But! He played in a weaker era and there wasn’t bunch of big men like him like there was in the 80’s and 90’s
Way better debate than Jordan/Lebron.
Both are qick, fast and have a high vertical. I believe Jorden is all around more skilled, Wilt is taller and stronger to make up for that 1v1. Love Jordan, to me he is the GOAT, but my money is on Wilt. I don't think anyone could beat Wilt 1v1 in his prime.
i can’t say Jordan would win a sudden death one on one, but because of his will, and worth ethic, Jordan would rise above Wilt. Prime Jordan was too explosive and would either blow past Wilt to the basket, or at least create enough separation to get clean shots. Wilt in the paint would dominate Jordan. perimeter defense would be vital for Mike.
The goat debate is a joke because basketball is a team sport, not one on one. If it would be the case, Jordan would not be in the discussion because no one in their right mind would think that a 6'7 Jordan would win against a prime Shaq or Wilt in a one on one game. It's better to think by era and position because the game changed so much and positions evolved. A center like Jokic plays very differently than a typical 80's center so they can't be compared. Allen Iverson can't be compared with Isiah Thomas because in the 80's you still had to dribble with your hand over the ball at all time because it was called a travel if you didn't. Giannis can't be compared to Wilt because who knows what Wilt could have done if he could have taken 3-4 steps to go to the hoop like they allow players today. Different eras, different game.
I agree. I would have gone with Wilt.
You gotta find the clip of a coach Larry brown at the the pickup game of 50 year old wilt playing against magic and other all stars . Watch that clip. Wilt mopped the floor at age 50 against prime magic .
The argument, whose the best between MJ and Wilt Chamberlain, can be in a way argued because in the 1950 to early 1970s, there was a player who was the equivalent of MJ, a player called Elgin Baylor...
Elgin Baylor was a magnificent nba player gifted with multiple skills able to score 40 different ways in Wilts era...
Yet he never won a ring because his knees gave out and in 1962 when Wilt Chamberlain scored 50.4 points a game he was the second highest scorer in the nba...
Rick Barry said it best, "i scored 36 points agame one season but trying to score around another 15 or 16 points would be impossible!"
If those two players and i personally rate Elgin at his peak above people like West, oscar, magic, bird, because his game was majestic... Would it have been any different for MJ absolutely not...
MJ couldn't have taken the pounding that Wilt took by the Boston celtics players/enforcers, the more of a threat he was the greater the abuse...
Wilt Chamberlain's reputation for being the best offensive and defensive player in his era cannot be questioned, but the physical abuse he suffered was quantified by big Bill Russell and Tom Heinsohn confirmed it....
" Wilt suffered more physical abuse than any other nba player ever. " and it was intentional and accepted by the nba and the referees something that you couldnt acknowledge in MJ era...
Its hard to imagine MJ being able to suffer the abuse that Wilt suffered in his era, Wilt wouldn't have went out of his way to hurt any player but lots would in Wilts era...
The rare exception would be if the situation was different a Wilt Chamberlain and MJ playing on the same team and Wilt would have been the first player there to protect him, Wilt was very protective about his smaller teammates to the extent of him throwing around the giants of his era like nothing...
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar turned his back on rookie MJ when he attempted a dunk...the end result MJ on the floor...in Wilt, Russells era they wouldn't have turned their backs and went for the ball and that could lead to serious injuries something no player wanted to deal with in any era!
Actually to me there's no greater compliment to MJ to say in Wilt and Bill Russell’s era that he would have been the equivalent to Elgin Baylor, you ask Jerry West how great a player Elgin was and he would be truefull about his dear friend, team captain and teacher!
Wilt Chamberlain was an anomaly whom nobody could hope to be...But Elgin Baylor you could hope to copy with lots of practice...Wilts a one off but Elgin was the blueprint for every generation that followed, he was magic before magic and MJ before MJ, his game stands the test of time and Wilts extraordinary physicality is the reason he still owns the record books even when the nba changed the records to make more...
If any of you collect the NBA Encyclopedia books in a few of them I seen where Wilt said MJ reminds me of a younger me but a bit more quicker
The great news for you Stilt is; you'll never have to prove it.