ZOOM vs PRIME for wedding photography - Sony 24-70/2.8 GM II vs 35/1.4, 50/1.2 and 85/1.4
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The time has come. The comparison and my take and thoughts about zoom lens vs prime lenses for wedding photography with side by side examples shot on Sony A7IV and Sony A9. This comparison was done using the newest Sony 24-70mm f/2.8 GM II and 3 GM primes lenses - 35/1.4GM, 50/1.2GM and 85/1.4GM.
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Thumbs up for the video and a hard work you put in it. Love that you matched the focal distance and range as much as possible. Both: zoom and primes have their place in wedding photography, with either better subject separation or putting subject within a context, in my mind. Great tip at the end of the video, combining 2.8 zoom with a fast prime. That should work the magic!
Thank you so much for your videos. I am trying to decide which lense to get and this has really helped.
Thanks Magic! I shoot mainly motorsports which requires basically the entire focal range possible on full frame sony. In my case 16-600mm. I tried shooting primes last season and carrying so many lenses out on the race track was ridiculous. This year, thanks to your video, I’ll be shooting with zooms and my favorite 50mm F1.2 GM!
I shoot GM primes wide open for literally everything… I am honestly surprised how much better F2.8 looks for wedding photos… this might be the only time I don’t want more bokeh…. F2.8 has enough bokeh but doesn’t ruin the story. I need to think some things over lol
Glad I made you thinking :P
I feel the same
I'm entering the wedding scene from a commercial photography background. I'm new to Sony gear and I was convinced that their 50 1.2 and 35 1.4 primes were the way to go. Then I found this review, with the side by side images. I'm with McWafflesPK, the 2.8 aperture blurs the bg nicely but not to the point where the flowers and candle become blobs of blurriness. There's a time and place for the max aperture of the primes, but not every shot in the album. My 2 cents. 😁
I am no pro photographer, but if you look at 8:15 you can see that only guys eyes are in focus when using 1.2. But on 2.8 his whole face is. I definitely prefer 2.8 there. Would be nice to see how 1.8 or 2.0 looks. Why do ppl use 1.2 and 1.4 for portraits? Is max bokeh better than whole subject in focus?
Thanks for the very informative comparisons. Also, your wedding photos are excellent.
Excellent video. For me the wide open large apertures actually detract slightly from the photos as the foreground OOF areas are just colour "blobs" whereas the 2.8 actually has blurred OOF with a little definition so you know that it is a rose or candle etc. Only my opinion though. The primes definitely and unsurprisingly have more of the wow factor though. All the lenses render beautifully. The 24-70 must be easier to use for a wedding though surely? Instead of continually changing cameras. But I guess it is whatever you are used to.
this is the exact video i been looking for, thanks for making it. 🙌
The best comparison I’ve seen hands down. Great video, thanks.
I have got the 24-70 F2.8 GMii and have been considering getting primes as I love bokeh, but looking at your comparison I am more likely to stay with the zoom for the flexibility, maybe adding just the 50mm F1.4 prime for specific portraits. In most of the photos I actually preferring the zoom with less bokeh to show the setting better.
That was a very useful comparison. Thank you! I have been eager to see a zoom vs prime comparison done in this way for a long while. I have a 24-70 and 55mm which complement well. Generally, when I use my zoom, I use it like a set of primes, I think about the focal length that would work best for the subject and zoom with my feet. The times I use a zoom are when I cannot get the framing I want because I am restricted in terms of where I can stand, or think I may miss the moment if I walk in closer. It is also good for more stealthy shooting, as people are less aware of you moving in to take a more intimate shot. As you said, primes a great when you need greater separation or a little more light, and something more lightweight.
Really liked seeing the examples of the prime vs zoom at the same focal lengths, really helped me with a decision I’ve been trying to make.
Awesome content as always, thank you so much! I have a 24-70 2.8 ii and mostly use it at f4, looking for deeper depth of field, and my 7siii works really well on higher iso! Yesterday I was thinking about a prime lens, and today your video showed up!
Probably going for a cheaper 50mm! Hugs from Brazil!
I started with the Sony gm trinity zooms, but have moved to the GM primes after 2yrs, with 24, 50 & 135. The 85 gm and the trinity tends to stay at home.
For people (and pets) I use my Sony 24mm 1.4 GM on the Sony A7RIV in both "full frame" and in APSC mode (36mm equivalent) and the Sony Zeiss Sonnar 55mm 1.8 also both in "full frame" and APSC mode (82mm equivalent) because of eye-dectection autofocus. So two Lenses becomes to four Lenses ! I have two A7RIV Cameras, so one with the 24mm and the other with the 55mm mounted, a GREAT set !
I absolutely agree… whenever i shoot a wedding with zooms its a bit more convenient, and the images are really good…however, whenever i shoot with mostly primes, im immediately in love with the look…they just have something extra, something dreamy, and special about them with the bigger aperture…it doesnt show in every image, but on average, it really pays off… not to mention the much increased IQ when shooting in lower light for the extra colour depth and lower noise…
Exactly! 👌🏻
I was actually kind of surprised how close the 24-70 was with the primes. No client would ever be able to tell the difference, honestly.
Haha oh let’s not fool ourselves that we buy all that gear for our clients 😂😂😂
Well they do when you shoot iso 6-8000 because the 2.8 zoom :) if there is enough light then they not tell yeah.
Excellent comparison, thank you very much.
Personally, I think that for closer shots from half body upwards, the zoom defends itself because f 2.8 is fine, it gives more sharpness in the whole face and that looks better even if some bokeh is lost in the front and in the background, but for shots more open or longer there is definitely no comparison. and the iso difference also if we want to shoot with natural light.
Many, many thanks, really excellent.
Appreciate the side-by-side comparisons. Learned a lot. Trying to decide on a prime that's 'easy' to carry on trips.
35/1.8 would get my vote!
love the direct comparisons here!
That is really helpful, thanks. The prime lenses look so much better, especially when zoomed in. This noisy or grainy impression of the images (even at low ISO) has always bothered me a lot with my 24-105. I will definitely get a 35mm 1.4. Still wondering if the GM is worth the huge price difference compared to other lenses in the range.
I like the prime photos more. And there is a huge iso difference sometimes. But i have to say, that modern zooms are pretty good and i could imagine to use either a 24-70 or a 70-200 for some sections of the wedding day.
Here in Finland where is plenty of sun half the year and no sun at all the other half, I’d say it is a must to have at least one prime lens with wider aperture. Personally I find the most important advantage wider apertures have is the ability to for faster shutter speeds. The ISO performance is so good now days so even ISO 8000 is manageable.
I didn’t know I needed this video. Thank you!
My pleasure!
Thanks for the video. Could you please tell me if the 24-70 II beats the 24mm 1.4 in sharpness. There are some wierd rumours going on about this topic and I would really like to know!
Great comparison! Thank you!
This is super useful, thank you!
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Great video ! Personally I love both zoom lenses and primes. When I shoot in extreme low light, need maximum of blur and have freedom of movements I go for primes. For events, when I need to get variety of shots quickly (wide and tight), when the background is far away, when the freedom of movements is limited (crowded places or rocky seaside) I go for 24-70 zoom. These are different tools for different scenarios.
Thanks for sharing. Great points!
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer i only have 85mm f1.4(not GM) and still using 28 70 kit lens for quick shoot at event. hope i can afford 24-70mm f2.8 soon :) then the last lens might be 35mm
Same. It's not like in this or most title versus or against it is actually as well! :-D
The primes on my sony a7RV are excellent. I only have the Tamron 17-28 and 35-150, which I used once since December and going to sell.
What a great and useful video!
Thank you for the video. Don’t know why I didn’t see this earlier since I subscribe. I have both the GM primes and now the GMII 24-70 and I use both. I do wonder now, after watching this video if you think Sony should create a 28-70mm f/2 like Canon. Would a lens like that change your thinking at all or is too big and heavy? How about a new f/1.2 85mm GM? Always interested in seeing your results. Thank you again.
Hello. Very nice video.What is typical aperture for taking photos of the couple with the 85mm?
I love his honesty.
- Hello, great comparison.
My question:
In photo prime lens is dreamy and best choise but on video?
I want to by 50 1.2, but i am afraid that 1.2 is so small DOF.
Thanks, peace💪💫
the Video i was waiting for ty !! but can you help me here i got 24GM + 85GM sigma art now do i get this new zoom lens or 50GM ?
I love these types of videos!
Thanks!
Thanks Dear. It is Excellently MAGIC. KUDOS for your EFFORTS.
Thanks a lot! You're welcome!
I mainly shoot travel videos and a few photos. Currently, I have 24, 50, and 135 (all GM lenses. Wonder if it is worth it for me to sell my 24 and 50 and change to 2470 GM II instead. My last travel was pretty hectic due to the need to change lenses. But I love the look and sharpness of 24 and 50.
Is it crazy that I preferred the f2.8 fotos over the f1.2 fotos in these situations? The only issue is noise in low light. It then makes me think how good the Tamron 35-150mm would be for wedding fotography given that it's f2 from 35-50mm I believe. The Tamron paired with a 50mm GM f1.2 would make a great combo.
Your wedding photography is so good man 🙌🏼 I use the 20G, 35mm GM, 50mm GM 1.2, Sigma 85mm 1.4 DG DN and the 135mm GM and mostly shoot with 135mm and 50mm. Great video man, Zooms play second fiddle to primes for me man the fall off is so much better.
Thanks dude! It's a nice set of lenses you have :P I was actually thinking myself to switch from 24mm to 20mm... tempting!
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer Exactly what I did mate just to push a little wider away from the 35mm as the 24mm can sometimes feel pretty close! The 24GM is a beast in its own right though!
I prefer to shoot weddings with prime lenses. I normally use a 35mm f/1.4 on one body and an 85mm f/1.4 on a second body.
Other prime lenses I may carry in my wedding kit include:
18mm f/3.5
105mm f/2.8 macro
180mm f/2.8
As a backup, I have a:
third body
20-35mm f/2.8
28-70mm f/2.8
80-200mm f/2.8
50mm f/1.4
Would you recommend the G Master to the Sigma Art?
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This comparison convinced me that I'm staying with zoom lenses. Maybe I'll get the Tamron 35-150 f2-2.8 in the future for more versatility
Super mice video thanks bro ❤
Prime all day. 24 1.4 and 50 1.2 on my Sony A9s
Great video and helpful insight. I always thought it was interesting wedding photographers shot wide open at 1.8, 1.4 or bigger to make everything blurry. I mean there’s a reason the couple chose a beautiful venue, and I’m sure they’d enjoy seeing the venue it in focus along with themselves rather than just photos of them with the surroundings blurred out. That’s just my opinion.
Bokeh is overrate. Looks like a green screen or some photoshopped crap. I just need the 3d pop and contrast from those primes.
@@kifley19what's the difference between bokeh and "3d pop"?
new sub here....very informational videos...what is that red camera strap youre using? thanks
Excellent information. This goes right inline with the top photographer's recommendations. Shooting prime is essentially why you're hired for. Shooting with zooms primarily is a disservice to the client. If I were to pay someone for capturing my wedding, knowing what I know, I'd mandate than they shoot with primes for most of the wedding. Zooms are convenient but no way would I ever run with just a 24-70 for most of the wedding. That's just lazy and the pictures quality is usually not as good as a prime lens.
Interesting. I have collected longer statistic, and I have focal length peaks: widest and longest distances (28 and 75) and around 40mm and 50mm.
I am overwhelmed with my 24/35/50 1.4 GM lenses. Which Lens should I take etc..I want to replace my 3 GM‘s with the 24-70 gmii, would make my life easier as a non Professional. But the Look of the Primes is so special 😅
Great video as always Magic. Please convince Narrative to make their software for PC!
Oh man, they need to! I see if I have any magical powers :P
Loved the vid, will you also touch on the 70-200mm vs 135mm?
That would be fun one to shoot. But probably more like 85 and 135 vs 70-200!
I would simply say that usually premium primes has simpky sharper corners. If you image all sharp then prime if softer corners not a problem - zoom
A little late to the party, however:
For portraiture: 70-200mm f2.8 would give good bokeh, especially if you are shooting outdoor, and using focal length in 105-200 range. When shooting outdoor you can try and manipulate the distance between your subject and background to get smoothy bokeh, while your subject is fully in focus (nose to hair, not just eyes).
Indoors, its hard to beat primes with 24-70 for portraiture, here 35, 50, and 85 depending on space available, they are preferable. If you are doing group shots, then 24-70 is your friend, as getting all faces in focus for a group shot is a challenge with f1.4 or 1.2.
BTW, nice video :)
Great video, I used Zoom lenses but when I tried the creativity that prime lenses give me I sold all the zooms and I only have Primes so I love shooting with the Sony GM 24 1.4 , 35 1.4 , 50 1.2, 85 1.8 and 135 1.8 Greetings from Miami
Almost exactly my set, except I don't use 135GM
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer You should use the 135mm ! This lens is so special and sharp.... Also when I use it I'm so suprised how much I love it. 24mm 1.4 ,50 1.2 and 135 rules!
@@fouuladvand48 no, the 24 is crap against the 20 or the 35 and beside of the color and af the new samyang 135 beats the sony gm ;)
@@fotomats8651 That's bullshit. I guess you don't even own all those lenses. But great for you if the Samyang is able to beat a Gm 135. Seems like you don't know how to use your gear that both lenses perform the same. Maybe you just invest in Samyang then and save a lot of money :-)
@@fotomats8651 I’m sorry but it seems like you are trying to convince yourself between the 135 Samyang. The Sony is Mike’s better than the Samyang, which is by no mean a bad lens.
Thank you 😊
Congrats on a great review. For me I liked some of the images on the primes, and with some other shots especially the candles having more depth of field more in focus the shots looked better at f2.8. For me basically it all comes down to time restraints. Most weddings don’t give us much time so being a canon user the happy medium is the newer 28-70mm f2 it’s almost Like 3 primes in 1 and sort of a bridge in between. Do I use it all day long? No it’s damn heavy but for situations such as Ceremony and main bridal party Portraits it’s perfect. I don’t recommend it for everyone, some people will get turned of by the weight/size. But once you realise how quickly and with great quality your getting thru your shots you tend to forget about the weight. Hopefully more manufacturers like Sony or sigma will make something similar,
Yeah I feel you wth the 28-70mm. I played around with it, and it's exceptional, but SOOO BIG and HEAVY. Not for my tiny arms. But for sure it will get you way closer to primes than f/2.8 zoom!
The Canon 28-70 is the best lens on the market, congrats.
true! i only have 16mm 2.8 STM, and 28-70 f2,. i dont need to buy 35mm 1.4, 50mm 1.2 85mm 1.4 and 24mm for group shots,. 35mm is quite short for group shot,. its overkill to bring to much lenses and switching to much,. .
i only use R6 28-70 and eos RP+16mm 2.8 just for wide shots,. very small setup,. i only bring small bag,. and im good to go,.
dude yes! I was going to make a similar video too! Probably still will, but love this.
Brother! Do it, it's such a fun experience actually after shooting primes all my life!
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer I just bought a Sigma 28-70/2.8 after picking up an FX3. Not the same as the new 24-70GM II but $$$$ ;)
Always use zooms for weddings and live events so you’re not holding everyone up and missing shots. Also, make sure to have a 70-200 for the ceremony so you don’t look like a nube standing in the center of the isle blocking the couple.
100% agree. You can take primes with you, for the before/after when its easy and slow going and you have time for multiple takes without anyone missing something.
Well, it depends on the photographer I suppose. I shoot entirely with primes for weddings, and I don't hold anyone up, miss shots, or block people during the ceremony ;)
@JasonWrites I used to think the same thing shooting 24/35/85/135 for events with 2 (sometimes a rented 3rd body) but when I switched to a 24-70+70-200 on 2 bodies, I noticed I captured a lot better photos. I was getting shots where the timing of things in the background, candid poses/expressions, light conditions created a much better image overall. These are split-second things, things no matter how much you finetune a prime kit like I did with 2 or 3 cameras with holsters, noone be quick enough to catch vs on a single lens.
A planned photoshoot is one thing. But when it comes to event coverage, I'll trade prime IQ for timing every time.
thanks for sharing your experience!
Best video 💯
Something strange with ISO, f/2.8 + iso8000 = f/1.4 + iso2000, not iso2500
Amazing content!
I have a wedding coming up and I will be using the new 24-70mm GM II f2.8 & the 35mm GM f1.4 on a Sony A7III!
And how was it? I‘m deciding between the 50 1.2 and the 24-70. already have two nice primes (20 1.4 and 90 2.8)
@@jimi272 it was amazing, its surprisingly light and even though the new 24-70 GM II is still a f2.8, i had really good bokeh and results, esp outdoors. it's super convenient, the new 24-70 will be about $1000 more expensive than the 50 so it really depends on your particular style and budget. I also bought this zoom lens because i want to eventually get into videography and travel. Bottom line: if you want something versatile and can do it all, then go for the 24-70 GM II. if youre referring to the first generation, then don't bother. if you want a solid staple lens to go inbetween your 20 and 90mm then go for the 50 if you dont mind changing the lens all the time, cause 20 and 90 is a huge margin.
When using OCF your lighting is everything. GM or Rokinon makes such a minor difference, or ever micro 4/3 vs full frame, barely noticable
I'm totally into primes, but im thinking sometimes about getting 24-70 for testing, I use 1,4/1.8 primes at their fastest apertures but im starting to close down the aperture :) I wasn't your biggest fan in the past but im seeing the big development and knowledge that you've come! keep making it you do it really good! :) to give you more motivation I wanted to buy the presets with the editorial but how much of the editing are there? :)
Thanks for kind comment and support Krzysiek! ❤️🙌🏻🥹
For what it’s worth, I sold my 35 1.4 gm and moved to the 24-70 gm ii for similar reasons and I regret the move.
The zoom is superb but 35 gm images are to my eyes, just that bit more compelling.
I also miss the option of 1.4 especially as a means of keeping the ISO lower.
Give me a 24-70, 2,0 and I'm in. I shoot with a 35mm, 50mm and a 85 mm and that's mainly it. I prefer to take pictures with 2,0, so the zoom lens is just not for me. Thanks for the comparison though, very informative :-)
Look, i think zooms have an advantage of range. Having scientific precision vs capturing the moment as a comparison is not comparable if adequate framing and subject is in focus. With high iso cameras, having a large aperture is more tantilizing. I actually prefer more background in focus capturing a more complete setting. I have never shown a client a photo where they complained the bokeh or the background was dissapointing by using a zoom lense.
Having a 35,50 would you guys get the 24 gm or the 24-70 for versatility or add the 24gm? I just can't make up my mind. Travel and quick family video makes me think that a gm zoom would be great but then again the bokeh... You think the bokeh at 24 is worth loosing the soom range?
24 has a nice bokeh, and it’s night and day vs 2.8 on zoom. But just like you said - versatility of the zoom is something else. It’s all down to personal preference …
for weddings fast primes will always reign supreme, even if you can't get the full-fat g masters I'd take a 35, 50 and 85 1.8 over even a 24-70 gm ii because when the lights go down the slower zoom is going to force you to accept much noisier images.
Have you tested the new Tamron 35-150 f2-2.8? Im curious what your thoughts are on it
Not yet! Need to get my hands on this bad boy!
I have it. It's now my main lens. I sold 50 1.8, 70 200 4.0. I'm thinking to sell also 35 1.8 and 90 2.8.
I really don't like change often gear because I love stay ready in any situation.
I tried to use 2 cameras but I prefer just 1 one and feel free to move
Hi Magic an interesting video. I'm mainly a Sony prime shooter got 20, 24, 35, 55, 85, 90 macro and 135mm. Most max aperture available bar 85mm f1.8 (didn't like heft, cost of f1.4 there). Was thinking about buying a 14mm GM f1.8 too and possibly a 50 f1.2 GM but holding out on both those for now. I also use zooms for convenience 16-35mm f2.8 GM, 24-105mm f4 G, 70-200mm f2.8 GM mk2 and 200-600 G with 1.4x on 70-200 for mid tele options to 280mm. So I go both ways and try to pick lens(s) for assignment or trip I'm doing. Albeit for portraits, AF eye acquisition speed and boker the 135 f1.8 remains unrivalled, but my new 70-200mm mk2 isn't too far off that lofty standard, but in more versatile package.
I never liked original GM 24-70 f2.8 (big, heavy, slow, expensive). Went 24-105 G f4 for rare occasions I need versatility and a one lens walkabout solution. In practice it performs way better in IQ than expected. I sometimes use that with either my 35mm f1.4 or 55mm f1.8 as a light 2-lens option that can handle low light and generate perceptible background boker whilst still being able to cover most useful focal lengths. Albeit for portraits, AF eye acquisition speed and boker the 135 f1.8 remains unrivalled.
I have yet to get into video properly but think the stabilisation and range of the 24-105 will prove a good option, so I'm still keeping it for now. But since receiving my mk2 70-200 lens and used with either a 24mm or 35mm f1.4, my 24-105 hasn't seen any use. But I'm getting conflicted again (bad GAS) and find myself wondering about buying the new GM mk2 24-70, despite my love of primes and earlier reservations about a mid-range 'so what' zoom etc etc. Why several reasons, smaller, better IQ and for many situations I find I'm stopping down a f1.4 or f1,8 lens to f2.8 anyway. Why? Well I learnt that extreme boker isn't always so great anyway - sometimes it just looks like missed focus with little perceptible sharpness unless a face/eyes are pretty large in the frame. With my 135mm at f1.8 it's quite easy to get one eye sharp and another eye a bit soft. That can look good, but not all appreciate that extreme shallow DOF, so usually I shoot with both eyes in same plane of focus if using that lens at f1.8. The same principle applies to a lesser extent with shorter lenses like my 35mm. So maybe thre is a use case for me too with a mid range trinity-zoom?
Clearly I suffer badly with lens GAS! I once owned a 28-70 f2.8 Nikkor bought in 1998 when first launched, but sold when I switched to Sony. I always felt the so called fast (f2.8 ha ha) 'pro' mid-range 'trinity-zoom' was unexceptional, unexciting, hefty, overpriced and generally overrated. BUT strangely now l have a great quality 70-200 f2.8 GM mk2 which I use regularly and love it's making me reflect on how I shoot and how much better Sony mk2 glass is. I had hitherto previously rejected the 70-200mm f2.8GM original. But that could change in mk2 guise. Yet even if I were to buy and use it would be for convenience, speed of capture/work (at events), lighter less bulky travel options but I think I would still want a f1.4 prime for low light and occasional boker.
Even though the background and foreground blur is superb with those primes, I found the blur of the chin and ear section of the face shots a bit distracting, I must say ... But as always pretty nice images in both cases. But convenience and price wise, I stay with my Tamron 28-75 :)
Thanks for sharing! Yeah, I need to get my hands on those Tamrons to see how they perform!
Is it just me? I prefer the look of the zoom as the different objects at different distances in the frame carry a smoother less jarring transition. Some of those 85 1.4 shots look weird with foreground, mid ground and subject with drastically different levels of blur that I find horribly distracting. Thanks for this video, I think I’ll stick to my zoom for this kind of work.
MAGIC!! Whats your go to shutter speed for lets say getting ready and ceremony? 250?!
Yup! After switchting to A7IV I'm shooting Aperture Priority most of the day, with 1/250 as my min SS. So it will not go below, unless I change it to lower intentionally. But 1/250 as min ss is my go-to.
Thanks magic! Love your videos!
I have the 24-70 and the 50mm and still trying to decide if i should sell my 50mm
that extra lighting on the 50mm at night time is a lifesaver keep it
if you only got 1 body and need to travel or do documentation, do still prefer 2 primes or stick with 24-70mm zoom?
That's my dilemma too. Did you get to any solution by now?
@@proksalevente it depends on what position im in. If im the only official photographer i will use zoom but if im the second shooter or non official photographer, i prefer experiment with primes
@@stefanusadrian8398I m in the same situation with a7iii and after using the tamron 28-75 2.8 i switched to the 24-105 Sony f4 more confortable for all around. I always carry with me the cheap 59mm 1.8 Sony but 8 want to buy a 35mm that is more versatile
Hi Magic, can ask what dual strap you are using. Cheers
Hey Nick! I'm using dual material strap from @holdfast , the one that is called Camera Swagg - holdfastgear.com/products/camera-swagg
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer Cheers magic, I am currently using a leather one which I like but it seems to be destroying my waistcoats ☹️😂
Was thinking of 24-70 F2.8 paired with an 85mm F1.8.
What do you think?
Great choice! Then you can add something like 35/1.8 which is also light and compact, and will give you a glimpse of a nice wide angle prime look!
I was thinking of maybe adding a 20/1.4 or 24/1.4, (to also be able to use it for a bit of astro) but the 20 might be a bit too wide for people
I moved from 24 1.4 GM , 50 1.4 GM a d 135 1.8 GM to 24-70 GM II , 50 1.2 GM , 70-200 GM II.
Peace of mind.
i don't know about you guys but im never satisfied with the result i get with my zoom lenses,there is just something that i can not describe with prime lenses 🤔
Hola Magic genial video. He comprado tus presets y tu curso de iluminación y he quedado más que contento.
Te escribo porque últimamente he tenido mucho en mente ir por las lentes GM. Actualmente tengo 24-70 GMII, 55 1.8, 35 1.8, 85 1.4 DG DN, 135 SAMYANG, 20 1.8 G, 16 1.8 VILTROX y el 50 1.4 TS TTARTISAN.
Como dije, quisiera irme por los lentes 24,35 y 50 GM pero no se si valga la pena la inversión. Estoy muy contento con mi lente zoom pero aún así quiero más nitidez y bokeh en esas distancias de lentes prime.
Tu que me aconsejas? Vender esos lentes fijos en 1.8 e irme por los GM 1.4?
Ojalá puedas leer mi comentario y poder responder mi duda.
Thank you my friend! Yeah, personally I would go for 24GM, 35GM and 50GM - these lenses are next level, and you will feel the difference 100%, you will get your sharpness and bokeh you want. You can start with 35GM and/or 50GM, and if you see that you like it but need that wide angle too, then get the 24GM as the last one.
Magic, muchas gracias me aclaraste bastante mi duda. Solo una pregunta más. Qué opinión tienes sobre el 28 mm f2 lo ocuparías para bodas, o no?
I sold my 35mm 1.4 to fund the 24-70 2.8 gm ii and I regret it 😢
The 24-70 is an excellent Len’s but I just find it a bit boring. I just find the images of the 35 1.4 more compelling.
is your presets works for lightroom?
yes, for lightroom classic and lightroom cc desktop
What I have learned from this video specifically from the comparison pics is that some of the zoom pics @ 2.8 were better because certain foreground objects were more in focus. Making me realize that this is something to be aware of and take into consideration when shooting with fast primes. 🤔
For sure. In certain situations, especially when you have a good lighting stopping down a fast prime will definitely benefit your photos!
totally agree with your recommendation
Is not just the blur, but the dimensionality of the images.
The contrast and images pop more on the primes.
@@kifley19 Check him out, he also has entire playlist about micro-contrast, contrast and dimensionality . czcams.com/video/rCmpLaimWZw/video.html
Best Combo if you shoot weddings with two bodies:
24mm f1.4
50mm f1.2
You can set up your c1 button for apsc mode and change between the different focal lengths.
24mm -> 36mm
50mm -> 75mm
And with a a7iv in apsc mode - 14 megapixels are more than enough for wedding photography
best combo in two bodies is canon Canon R5 + RF 28-70 F2, and eos RP+16mm 2.8 nothing beats thats, you can crop 70mm at 1.5 crop to make it 105mm with 20mp resolution in R5 still plenty
@@kenjiyamamoto423 Wrong chat dude, we are talking about the sony system here.
GM 50/1.2 is monster! I have a 55/1.8 (small, light, beautiful) but 50/1.2 it's my new goal.
I totally disagree. Best combo for shooting weddings is the 24-70 2.8 and the 70-200 2.8 your priceless moments and candid captures will be unmatched compared to any prime combination. Without question. I actually photograph weddings.
@@BroBrown357 That f2.8 though... :/ The look is too "commercial" for a wedding.. these moments need some dreamy, airy f1.4 magic!
Yeah.
1.) Since your´re a prime shooter you´re not used to have "just" 2.8. Yes DOF is better on wide, but not on the longer side. It´s noticeable for you (and me) but not for the client.
2.) You cant compose images the same with 2.8 and 1.4. Most of the time it doesnt work.
3.) As you said the zoom gives you freedom. And that´s the key. It could be the difference between not being able to take the shot (not have the right space) and taking it.
4.) That said with 33/40/60MP you are prob able to run around all day with 1-2 primes and still be able to cropin in post. 8MP is enough even for big prints.
5.) Colors dont matter. At least not this amount. Your client wont see it. Just you and me. And that doesnt matter.
6.) ISO doesnt matter anymore nowdays.
Oh my fav portrait lens is the Sony 90mm2.8 Macro... 😄 And i am (mostly) a prime shooter 🤣 Still good overview.
Hi Magic, I do really enjoy your videos, please help me here, I am a prime shooter , currently have the 24 GM 1.4 and 35 GM 1.4 and 135 GM 1.8, all great lenses, the best I've ever used , I am debating if the 50 1.2 is worth the 2K (live in US), and trying to decide between that one of the sigma 85 1.4 ART DN (Many times the 135 is too long for indoors), I use the A7RIV and A7IV for most of my events ...so, what I am really asking is if you got a big WOW feeling after trying the 50 1.2 or, was it very much what you expected ?., can you get the same IQ compared with the 35 1.4 (probably the sharpest and best lens I'v e ever used along with the 135GM)....thanks ....Eric
Get the 50mm 1.2 !!!! It is worth the money and you will love it and use it much more then the 35mm when you have it. 85mm is very narrow and 50mm is pretty flexible. It is very sharp even at 1.2!!!! The best investment I ever made together with the 135mm 1.8. If you love th 135, you will love the 50 1.2, too!
@@fouuladvand48 thank you for your feedback , after a long mental debate, I agree with you, I am getting the 50 1.2
@@fouuladvand48 soo what do you use as your “go to” combo?
I like better the looking of the 35 gm over the 50, I’m really thinking on selling it and or buying this 24-70 or the new 70-200, just waiting if sigma will release or not a 70-200 zoom lens.
Anyone else thought the pics with the 24-70/2.8 look pretty much the same or even a tiny bit better than the Prime lenses? Sharpness look the same to me BUT the girl's skin tones look better with the 24-70 2.8 The so called "creamy" stuff is not even a factor here. Trust me your clients will not analyze the photos as you are doing it here. Thanks for the Vid.
50 mm 1,2 gm the best!
Magic just keeps putting out useless videos that we all want to see ! So so good :)
That’s the goal 😂
Magic Wedding Photographer 😂 just dropped you a follow on Instagram, as I also shoot weddings as well as models 👍🏻
Literally no comparison. Primes blow the zoom out of the water
I like the photos from 2.8 much more. I don't like these fluffy photos on 1.4. They lack three-dimensionality, individual plans are invisible.
Yea the same. Like the flowers in the hand being out of focus is distracting. When the two people are side by side with 1.4 the depth of field is still too shallow to get both faces in focus a lot of the time.
Prime photographer
Zooms = Convenient
Primes = Best Quality
Yup, and on top of that - thanks to the small size and weight the new zoom is REALLY convenient… but so expensive 😭
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer lol expensive try getting all the Leica SL primes. Jeeez I need to hit lotto.
@@rumporridge1 Leica's are more for collectors not for the young bulls, Leica's are like what cars are to Jay Leno, he likes classics not because they perform better but for nostalgia and the history. Sony, Canon, Nikon, etc... are more for the professional, entertainment, hardbody shooters who want the best of the best results. Just because it looks different or has a different look doesn't mean it's better, ie: just because Kanye gets a hoodie from Wal Mart tears some holes and sprinkles bleach on it that doesn't make it better than a Nike hoodie lol it just means a sucker is so insecure he will pay 5 times the price to look different and hopes someone notices when he could just get the higher quality Nike sweater which performs better and is more comfortable, just saying.. lol
@@barretogods7178 well I have shot all those brands. And now in shooting Leica. I shoot professional with the SL2, based in NYC. I don‘t have any equipment as part of a collection to sit on a shelf. I’m not well off but I chose to shoot with the best equipment I can afford. Now if you chose to shoot with those other brands that’s fantastic. Good for you. I use what works best for me and what looks best to my clients. Take care and enjoy your weekend.
@@rumporridge1 I didn’t mean to slight u man, I shoot professionally as well, not based in NYC but in California not necessarily based anywhere I’m not tied down to any location even though I own two studios with different brands of bodies as well, I’m not biased but facts are facts just because someone invested in vintage cars it doesn’t mean those vintage cars perform better, it means that’s their preference they like the look and feel of them but there’s newer cars that will blow them out the water. No disrespect I could be talking to someone who is a professional and already knows this even though if I read between the lines and analyze what u say and would take a guess I suspect ur a hood booger who’s talking out their ass.
my heart says: primes ftw! 🤴
my brain says: go lazy, use zoom.. no one will notice 😅
And your body says: I need Sony, canon is too heavy 😂
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer 🫠😅
Where is Canon RF 28-70/2 ???:p One to rule them all!!! 😁
Haha, one to rule them all and the one to break your back :P
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer Yes!!! 1,5kg...I had the to find out at the wedding. Great lens but weight
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer nah,. i rather have only two lense 16mm 2.8 and 28-70mm f2,. bring on wedding day,. rather having a backpack with 35mm1.4 50mm 1.2 85mm 1.4 and some 24mm range for groupshots like 15-35mm 2.8 thats lot of lense will break your back,.
so many wedding photographers thinks that they are great photographer if they can separate their subjects to the background,. to be honest to much bokeh ruined the photos,. especially if clients paid for the place and reception with beautiful flowers and backgrounds,. why do you need to bokeh your entire shots?? those photographers who rely to much in background blurs are the photographers that are very weak when it comes to composition and story telling's,.
@@kenjiyamamoto423 Contradiction much?, if you really felt that way then why not just get a 24-70 f2.8 or a 24-70 f4? instead of that sea turtle 28-70 f2? and no disrespect but u just criticized prime lens shooters kits while adding a zoom to their kits, lmao. like I said no disrespect this is not a competition if your gear works better for you then hey you have a leg up on the competition which u don't and instead u come off as a bitter biased Canon shooter who doesn't own any stock in Canon so it's weird. lastly the set of primes u mentioned probably weighs 2 bananas more than your 2 lens kit and not to make fun of u but if 2 bananas break ur back then maybe an iPhone 13 mini should be ur new kit either that or u need to get a caddy to assist u. respectfully lol
@@barretogods7178 dude,. 28-70 f2 is the sharpest lense in all zoom lenses,.
your 24-70GM is sucks and not sharp at all,. thats why theres a version 24-70 ii gm,. but still not very sharp,.
thats why you need prime lenses because your zoom lense doest give enough light and sharpness,.
28-70mm is unbeatable lense in all zoom lenses,.
soon canon will be releasing 14-28mm f2, 70-135 f2,.
the only good thing in sony side is price,. nothing more,.
You use primes for set pieces, and zooms for when you don't have flexibility in moving around. Not rocket science.
Sony user opinions are not valid