the (actual) strongest monster in D&D
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The strongest monster is that 1 one homebrew that the dm insisted was perfectly balanced
Or the good old “surprise monster”
“So she is looking very injured it seems like you might be able to take her out, but you hear a noise behind you. You see the high level Paladin from before”
Me “….” *looking at my 7 hp and 2 level 1 spell slots left “huh…..”
Ya mean the spaceduck? XD
I’ve got a home brew with 1hp that is also immortal.
I have a pretty good story about how a overpowered monster was made, taking a cougar and everyone talking how it sneak attack the team and did so much damage and the dm making it giant and invisible
Yeap.
Lvl 20 Barbarian: "I fear no man"
Intellect devorer: *exists*
Barbarian: ..."But t-that thing scares m-me"
At least they put the humanoid restriction. Otherwise an intellect devourer could run up to The Tarrasque and ask him if he has time to talk about our lord and saviour, Elder brain
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There's no intellect to devorer tho...
@@AxxLAfriku omfg of course you're here too.
@@Dile0303 to be honest, lore wise there are non humanoid creatures that are intellect devoured :D
Being a DM is like being a good action movie writer and director. You want your characters to have a tough time but ultimately you want them to be victories.
Except for the fact that your actors don`t know about the script/don`t follow it and you have to constantly change to the point that you think that making a script is counterproductive and you just wing most of time
i don't.
If there is no peril in the task, there can be no glory in its accomplishment.
@@johnymustacio the risk of death is the best spice possible. if you show your players that their actions can in fact lead them to an early grave they will act with more care
I make it fair, but I also drop some context clues about some monsters being incredibly dangerous or the party possibly being out numbered. I did get one encounter that would've absolutely ended in a TPK if the party didn't flee the fight.
I love how the Tarrasque used to be considered a literal apocalypse and a legit threat that was impossible to defeat and could only be defeated by wishing it away
Not since the Gygaxian days as the Tarrasque been any sort of threat. Its not that the tarrasque has gotten weaker its that ever since Wizards took over and made 3e players have become one man armies and the tarrasque just hasnt caught up
@bensama players have nothing to do with it. the tarrasque can be killed by an allip. it has never been particularly threatening.
It's more than that. The RPGA got involved and forced TSR to make a rule change by eliminating Negative THAC0. The RPGA is a blight on gaming and should be wiped out. Before Negative THAC0 was removed, it required a critical fumble to hit a Tarrasque. @@2ndGenBen
And yet an aaracokra with a magical bow could solo it. Not even going to talk about clay golem. No ranged weapon attacks, no Magical Weapons trait, just a big chunk of meat.
A meme from an age long past gave the point I think you're trying to make.
"It's easy to kill your players. It's harder to ALMOST kill your players."
Comes from an old engineering quote: Anyone can design a bridge that stands. It takes an engineer to design a bridge that barely stands.
@@Daylight.0 Ngl that seems backwards
@@Dr4g0nR4wr give me 50 million dollars and I'll build a bridge for you. But an engineer knows what actually needs rei for cement and all that, and can do it for the minimum cost
@@Dr4g0nR4wr Basically what the quote is implying is that building a bridge is easy. If you had infinite money. Engineers are given a budget or told to make the cheapest bridge possible which would barely stand
@@Dr4g0nR4wr
Maybe, but it's not. It's a difference in efficiency. You can probably jury-rig any kind of bridge that gets the job done if cost and material acquisition were not issues, but because they are, it takes an engineer with efficiency-conscious methodology to get it done in the real world, using a minimum of material and cost.
The true answer is obviously an inanimate mundane chair located in the middle of a ransacked room.
How many legs on this chair? 🤔
*Tenets of Chairism*
Imagine a sort of greater mimic that can become any object within range or sight
@@Tmsmdfcrcls Four.
...Like a chair.
I understood that reference
"Second love of my life"
I could almost hear the chain audibly grind on that backpedal.
High-Level D&D is not about threatening the Player Characters. It's about threatening the innocent people, cities, the world! Sure. If it's just a matter of time till the party can kite the Tarrasque to death, it's lame. But if every single turn means that more and more people are in danger of being crushed, eaten or both?! Then players have to become creative
THIS!
But what if the PCs don't care about innocents 😅?
@@tiggerk2392 Even if they care just about themselves. Anything that's big enough to require High-Level PCs, will cause harm to things that will affect them. If there are no people to worship them or to trade with or to even serve them, then they will have to do menial tasks themselves.
"It's going to destroy the planet!"
-"So what?!"
"That's where all your stuff is.."
-"But I love my stuff! We have to stop it!"
@@tiggerk2392 After reaching the high levels, the players will have something they care about - if it's not innocents, it's something else. Every character has a weak point.
@@tiggerk2392 "oh no, the magic items will be crushed!"
You will have a wave of min/max players going to get between the loot and the enemy
"So annoying." The words every DM dreams of hearing from his players. They are second only to "F&%$ this guy."
I've shouted both of those before. Thx for the memories.
That's usually a sign of bad Dming
@@mr.equity1120 why?
@@mr.equity1120 Depends on context, if they're laughing, it's totally good.
@@Andre-vt4np Because you don’t want your players to have a bad time, if they’re having a bad time then why are we playing D&D at all. Like someone said below if they enjoy the challenges and are having fun then it’s really not bad Dming. It’s a story that you’re building with your party it’s really not the DM vs the players.
The strongest monster: a noble!
Party: "That's no fair! You sent a group of adventurers to kill us!"
Noble: "Screw the rules I have money!"
Lol
Or pay some famous bards to make fun of them everywhere they go. Every time they enter a tavern the people there will pretend not to see them and laugh when they're not looking. Soon nobody is hiring them and kids are following them in the streets, calling them names and laughing at them..
Not saying it's a fun thing to rp, just saying it's a way to punish a party of murderhobos
@@Eisenwulf666 This is a masterstroke of worldbuilding and game balance. How do you make your players really *hate* a villain? Simple. Just get the villain to ruin their power fantasy by dashing their reputation. Then they've got the strongest motivation for violence: *revenge.*
@@Eisenwulf666 this video isn't about upsetting your players and taking their fun away. It's about giving them a challenging encounter.
This fails the moment the party gets to like level 7, has a bard and/or took the noble background. Like even in normal games you end up swimming in enough gold to buy a small kingdom and I don't even need to go into what a bard can do to a noble. Honestly using nobles that just go out of their way to make a party miserable and constantly get away with it is just going get every noble in the kingdom killed and/or the party to refuse to have you DM for them anymore.
The surprisingly hardest encounter I ever accidentally devised was a doppelganger that one of my players unknowingly took to bed at a very low level. She tied up his character in what he assumed was sexy role play only to reveal herself as a very real threat to his character's life. The rest of the players woke up from the commotion (without their armor, of course) and proceeded to get smacked around by the enemy while getting some truly terrible attack rolls. The very cramped quarters of the Inn only didn't help them since the only melee character was tied up at the time and most of their attacks were met by having to overcome partial cover.
In the end, I had to play it like the Innkeeper NPC came over and gave them a hand with some healing because they were truly close to a TPK. This was a pretty experienced group who were coming together for a new campaign and that was probably the closest they came to getting wiped out with those characters. It was deep into the session and we were all pretty drunk. The panic was pretty damn funny, but everything worked out in the end. They were all a lot more careful after that. All from ONE doppelganger. Ah, good times.
That image of a Tarrasque fighting an Ancient Black Dragon makes me think of so many cool encounters you can have. Like maybe a lower level party has to help evacuate a city while these giant monsters duke it out, or a higher level party has to break up the fight before they cause too much damage.
Yeah, personally I give the Tarrasque a "Boulder" attack, this is like the Giant's signature "Rock" attack. Basically "yeah this isn't as good as my normal damage but at least you can't entirely cheese me by just flying and using ranged attacks."
I do that too but I just say, "The tarrasque smacks the top of a church and sends boulders flying towards you. Roll Dex saving throw.
Frankly you can give the Tarrasque a Godzilla style beam attack, it's pretty on point with its Kaiju esthetic.
Same. Last game I had this Ettin as an encounter for my players, and at one point I realized they could just kill her at a distance, making the encounter a "simply press A" situation. I just had her take a big rock and throw it to one of the players (who coincidentally was spiderclimbing, and I rolled a critical hit, and knocked her unconscious, and the fall gave her one death save failure, but that is another story)
I give it a beam that increases in damage the further away you are, meaning players who try use the standard fly and/or attack from range realise they need to consider cover and positioning
@@inigop.d.1270 oh god that sounds like an insane moment, I'm guessing the table went wild there.
The stronges monsters: "I'm Invisible"
Party: "Oh no, what we gonna doo"
The Dumb Barbariann: **Sprays a Bag of Flour everywhere** AHA!!! You cannot decieve me
Target has flying.
@@LucanVaris dc 19 investigation check to use movement of flour to tell his location in the air.
@@matthhiasbrownanonionchopp3471 Lol, yep, a flying invisible creature with flour on them would be dropping flour all over the place, revealing where he is.
That's... not a bad idea actually
@@rdizzy1 Gotta hit him WITH the flour, and hope he didn't just throw his voice into that corner instead.
Jacob: The tarasque has no ranged attacks.
The community some time later: So a level one Aaracocra with a longbow.
Make them an Artificer so you don't have to worry about ammo.
Owlin wizard, fire bolt or owlin warlock, eldritch blast
@@declanbowley4578 *Reflective Carapace has entered chat*
@davidcarroll5683 I deny your reality in place of my own, I will refuse to admit to you being correct not because I dislike you, but because I am a stranger who has nothing better to do at the moment than argue, this is nothing against you but I will remain stubborn as I am an unintelligent human who is bored and will start saying stupid things now even if I know they wouldn't work.
So I reply to your "carapace" with counter spell :]
i actually think nothing really stops a tarrasque from throwing a whole house at you while you fly.
i know it doesn't have a throw attack, but it just makes sense and any creature with a hand or paw flexible enough to hold something can do it. It could even throw the house (or just a huge stone...) hitting it with the tail.
Or maybe just make a tall building fall on you, or spread rocks at high speed hitting the side of a stone wall.
You can get very creative even if it doesn't fly.
This reminds me when my players were doing Dragon of Icespire Peak and ran into an invisible stalker. Never have I seen the party be so desperate to save themselves until that point. Cleric was low on hp and almost out of spellslots, monk and wizard were unconscious, Bear Totem barbarian was on like 10 HP. They only managed to survive because the barbarian rolled a nat 20 when trying to break the magic weapon that summoned the stalker.
My players also had an interesting time with that stalker. For some reason, they split up, 2 went back to town for supplies while 2 went to Dragon Burrow to get that sword they heard could defeat Cryovain. The two that went managed to sneak past the traps and Will-o-Wisps, but obviously summoned the Invisible Stalker when they grabbed the sword. The Ranger got banged up a bit, but he and the Monk managed to escape the dungeon and rode their horse for miles back to town, with the Invisible Stalker chasing them the whole time, because that is literally its job. They reconvened with the other two, and luckily the Bard had Faerie Fire, so they were able to actually fight the thing.
I have a level 20 barbarian with 345 hp, and is a bear barbarian, effectively giving him 690 hp. That’s more hp than a Tarrasque.
Yo, I literally just start playing the exact same build
Nice
Imagine if your DM makes you fight mind flayers
Well if you are just going by effective hit points, a tarrasque has other damage immunities and a ton of spell resistance so you could argue its effective hp is higher than 676 by comparison.
Why do you hate your DM lmao
When my party steamrolled everything, I threw a party of simulacrums of themselves at them. They stil won but it revealed some major weaknesses that I would never have noticed if the party didn't exploit them to beat their copies.
That’s actually an excellent idea, often the players themselves know what their own weaknesses best
clever
Ya a good ol' Dark Link is always great as both a combat encounter and narrative device.
@@7F0X7 where is he?
@@linkholder When you grin at yourself in the mirror in the dark, that's him.
The best way to use the Tarrasque I've found is encapsulated in the movie Godzilla. The 2000 Matthew Broderick Godzilla. No, I'm not kidding. I ran the Tarrasque this way once and it was some of the most fun we've ever had. There's a large island city in my homebrew world, and when the Tarrasque came, it was loose in this city. When it got injured too badly by the party, it ran away through buildings, creating a ton of difficult terrain and impassible rubble and promptly disappeared, causing the party to start playing smart, trying to locate where it nested, attempted to corner it, used their sizable skills and resources (they were level 19 at the time and had an airship). The entire encounter became a puzzle rather than just a fight.
Instead of exploiting the weaknesses of the Player Characters I sometimes try to turn their strengths against them. The Fighter has a million melee attacks per round? Remorhaz with "on hit"-effects or Mephits with "on death"-effects, are a great challenge for the players. They are forced to think outside of their usual moves
So what does the fighter do without feeling like they're just being singled out? If an enemy heals when hit by fire, a Wizard can just cast something other than Fireball, but the Fighter doesn't have that luxury.
@@MayHuggeruse a bow? Lol
@@dokkabaerpg7896 Then you’re not challenging them or changing anything if using a bow works fine.
@@dokkabaerpg7896Another nerf to melee? Genius!
"Aboleth goo doesn't have a counter"
Ran an Aboleth as the final boss of my first ever campaign. When my paladin entered the waters and I described how when he failed the saving throw he grew gills, my players looked on in horor. Then the paladin player asked " wait is this a disease? I'm immune to those thanks to being a paladin"
I was quite devastated
No worries, you can just use the Enslaved feature on him, or on the nearest Barbarian so they can proceed to Whack him while underwater.
Or yunno, the Aboleth could swim away, its the perfectly reasonable response to Aquatic Paladins.
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*I have advice on running Aboleths if its OK with you*
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Aboleths always seem weak compared to their description cause they tend to be used bare bones.
However they are ancient and powerful creatures, older than gods and more knowledgeable than Liches. They also mind control beings weak enough to fall into their grasp.
In a fight an Aboleth would never battle alone. It has several multitudes of minions gathered over eons that live and due for its sake. It has its native Chuul (and a lot of them) to aid it, but then several influential or powerful humanoids on the material plane. Owing to its connection with the plane of water it could also have several Elementals under its employ.
Another thing to note, is Aboleths are smart, stupid smart, if an Aboleth has survived (or not) even one Arcane/Divine caster they will begin preparing for the next time they encounter one.
They would gather magical items (they have stupidly high history and arcane skill so expect them to know the locations of even legendary items) and use them in a fight (or gift to minions), enslave the odd wizard or so, manipulate demonic cultists and others that hate gods, and deal with powerful planar/abyssal/demonic/primordial entities.
Basically, play an Aboleth like a Mastermind, and not a Final Boss. The act of getting to the Aboleth in itself should be a challenge, and when accomplished the resulting army its built up will then meet the players head on, while the Aboleth stands back while attempting to either slink away (it can always rebuild) or fight to the death ( deep speech: "LMAO imagine dying").
My BBEG is a mutated, insane aboleth. He has an entire cult of frenzied worshippers and a lvl 20 caster at his disposal, the ability to cause madness, and can flesh-craft creatures into his service. My players are terrified to meet him.
That is a bummer for you, but on the flip side, this is probably the only time being immune to disease will EVER come up in that campaign.
@@jasonfurumetarualkemisto5917 OK You aren't wrong, but a ton of this stuff falls flat in front of some players who just stare and go "wuh" or complain because the Aboleth is actually strong or whatever.
He deserved that, seeing as disease immunity is worthless like 90% of the time.
The one creature that no adventurer is able to kill: The flumph
Yeah, because you won't be a player anymore once you start attacking my squishy boys
Laughs in murder hobbo
I ran a campaign and the second enounter was a group of Flumph. Not great damage, but the party kept missing and being made stinky which made up for them slaughtering the first encounter. Also they went right to turn in the quest instead of washing first so they got paid less for being smelly
false its that one kobold that are entire party gets consistent nat 1s on no matter what
My Wild Sorc accidently summoned a bunch flumphs into a battle we were in...right into an area enclosed with Sickening Radiance...needless to say, the DM described their telepathic screams of terror really well.
This is the beautiful, same lesson that Tucker’s Kobolds gives the world of us DMs.
A powerful party’s most diabolical weakness isn’t massive stats, it’s *TACTICS*
Don’t try and get into a slugging match with a high level dnd party, it ends up either too easy or boring. They’re Mike Tyson at that point. What makes it challenging is making them fight someone who knows how to dodge. Someone who put a knife in the glove. Someone who suddenly disrupts the ring and puts in spikes everywhere.
A challenge for a high level party isn’t a slapping competition, it’s a duel with no rules.
Our DM used our previous characters to bolster Zariel's forces for the final battle. Turns out the forge cleric runeknight fighter I made was damn near impossible to kill. The clerics and wizards we lost became a nightmare and sweet Jesus a zealot barb who can't die all the while that flaming fallen angel was forcibly lavaboarding us made for an epic conclusion!
"Could Titivilus take on a party of over powered adventurers?"
"He could certainly try."
"Animate Objects, Polymorph, Find Familiar, Conjure Animals or some other form to summon/make a creature with blind perception to reveal your position and I WILL DESTROY YOU!!!!"
@@marcosantonio-hj7vp he’s probably faster than animate objects
@@marcosantonio-hj7vp a faiery fire spell thats a prettyyyy low level spell
@@GravityAP if he runaway the combat is over, the Object will be a problem if he chooses to fight. So you will fight?
"Love of my life"
Scene cuts and looks at his ring
"Second Love of my life"
PURE GOLD
Edit: guys I'm saying the bit was hilarious not that the ring was made of gold lol
i was laughing my ass out because of this moment
First was Lolth🤯
I hope not, gold rings are expensive!
When you know your wife watches your CZcams videos...
I was just listening to it so I had to stop rewind and actually watch what happened it was hilarious
With the Release of Fizbans, Crystal Dragons are actually terryfying. they can teleport at will, making them impossible to coordinate strategy around
dimensional anchor.
@@mrosskneNot a spell in 5e
>playing 5e
LMAO
@@mrosskne Well you’re responding to a comment talking about crystal dragons from 5e, so I figured I’d just let you know.
lol cope
Great video. Thanks for the ideas.
In 2nd edition Monstrous Manual there was a creature called a Living Wall, which took on the stats of the monsters that had become trapped inside of it. So the most challenging encounter I ever ran (which should still work in 5e) was a vast cavern where the 4 walls where each vast living walls with all manner of nasty stuff trapped into it. The only escape from the room was to kill all 4 walls and then decompose the remaining material to reveal the exit door.
"love of my life"
*looks at ring and realizes he doesn't want to sleep on the couch*
"second love of my life"
Or, consider the following:
Vampiric Half-Ancient Red Dragon Dracodemilich Tarrasque.
Not fiendish?
Is half-ancient like middle age for dragons?
Kryptonian Guest I think it might mean 'dual heritage'.
@@kryptonianguest1903 I think it's half dragon, and that dragon half is ancient
@@dragonheart1236 Pretending not to realize that allowed me to make a crappy joke :P
One of my favorite games was splitting up a high level party and having them inadvertently working against each other. There comes a point where you have to rely on writing more than a monster of the week/session. If you have some lore built up send your party back in time Quantum Leap style and have them try and fix something they screwed up. Have them replay an old favorite encounter with a twist. A trickster god decides to switch everyone's abilities or randomizes their power or AOE etc etc.
I did something similar for my group of first time players. I did a homebrew Herobrine from Minecraft as their first major boss XD he could teleport around his boss room nearly freely, and could spawn temporary lava on the ground at random that would spread out and dissipate over the span of 3 turns (also teaches special awareness). At lv 3 (his hp were around 100 and there was 7 of them) they were forced to use their brains as he teleported the more he got hurt and lava’d the more he got hurt. When they finally emerged victorious about an hour later their eyes were filled with such joy knowing they beat this supposed unstoppable force. Of course I revealed it was only a fraction of his soul that now defeated will return to him to make their next encounter with him even stronger, but the fact they could stop this fraction and without losing anyone lead to well earned confidence
Not going to lie: "The TAVERN ITSELF turns out to be a dungeon!" is such an absurdly, elegantly brilliant idea for a quest that I CANNOT believe I haven't come across this "trope" before!
You can raise the level if you make the tavern an "ancient mimic". Technically, mimics can grow indefinitely if they aren't killed, and can adapt to take any shape that attracts many people
This is literally the concept for the first 3 episodes of Acquisitions Incorporated: The C Team if you want to see a good example.
Uhhh Blackrock Depths
I have an idea for making a tavern as a side quest for a campaign.
The party is sent to a highway road where people keep disappearing. They come across a roadside tavern (which would often be seen as pitstops for travellers, so it wouldn’t seem strange to see).
The party spend the night, talking to the innkeeper and other people who have stopped there. If they don’t find anything, you have another residence disappear by morning, etc.
The trick is that either:
A: The innkeeper is actually a sadistic beastmaster, and is using the inn to raise pet mimics, and the people who disappear are being used as food for said mimics
Or B: The tavern is a giant Queen Mimic, and all the furniture inside are its young. The innkeeper is used as a lure (in the same manner an angler fish), and the party have to venture deep inside it to destroy its heart.
I actually run a campaign with a sidequest inside a tavern. In my world, there was a war 50 ish years ago, and some buildings have secret hideouts that was used by both spies and rebels angry at the king for going to war.
In one tavern they got in, I had made their exact thing for a party. The dwarf was called "big guy" and bought drinks. The goliath was invited to an interesting contest and free ale. The warlock saw a handsome, rich looking man who flirted with her first.
Only the dwarf made his save, and noticed a sweet smell.
To make an extremely long story short, they have found the secret hideout in the tavern and it is being used by vampire to set something up.
This has been homebrewed quite a bit, but it's easy to adapt if you wanna.
Jacob: "Here is the real most challenging monster"
Jacob, some time later: "So, my party killed him with a gun..."
What damage did it do
@@fivesARC--5555 157 in total from one characters turn
@@hearforthemusic9814 holy shit
@@fivesARC--5555 Should also mention the character was level 8, it was a crit with some pretty busted homebrew but still lol
@@leahbeah1585 aah
It's really tricky sometimes to find a line between challenging and straight up hating my players. But as a DM I found out that giving easy victories is much less harmful then not giving one at all.
Another approach to this concept is to have a monster that inhabits or steals a party members body, it really makes parties fall apart when a loved one or cherished party member becomes the enemy.
that's cute that you think your players will care
@@mrosskne If you have players that don't care, then you are playing with the wrong people. Good players will care.
@@MayHugger whatever you gotta tell yourself lol
I feel like the Big Bag 'o Hit Points And Resistances enemies like a Tarrasque work much better as a world-affecting or time limit type challenge (something I feel like the DMG tries to push a little). Like, the Tarrasque is making its way towards a city the players care about, so they only have x amount of time to grind away those HP or distract it or SOMETHING before it starts going Godzilla on shit
The hit points are kinda too low for that. IMO the way to do a really scary tarrasque is to have it be already attacking a city. "Go ahead and strafe from the sky, but that cute little puppy is dead now because of you."
@@richardwhaler8717 The moment when it doesn't work, because the party is a bunch of murderhobos who would've killed the entire city anyway.
Agreed. You can have the party see a Tarrasque at level 1. It just shouldn't target them. It's targeting the city they're in. Only damage they should take is debris and falling buildings. Which, could be fatal for sure. It's an escape sequence
What you are describing is Lao Shan Lung and I'm all for it.
Had a great fight that was the party essentially playing keep-away from the tarrasque (I gave it some gloamwings as air support)
“All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
― Sun tzu, The Art of War
"All warfare is based
Technoblade, is that your alt account?
any one quote Sun tzu's, The Art of War; Knows their chariot to archer ratios! And get my follow. "Just take my $!"
not really... all quotes have situations they are usefull in that makes them sound more important than they really are. for example, all modern wars are about technological advantage. it doesn't matter if you know the enemy tanks ar3 there if you don't have anything that can penetrate their armor
@@johnymustacio It does, though, it means you know there's an unbeatable force in that location and to strike at a different one. Or find a way to lure this one out of position ; even the most modern tank can be dragged into a tarpit, if the ambush is laid well enough. We haven't evolved past "spear pit trap" in concept, we just increased its necessary size.
The repeated return of "the power of the sun!!!" Joke always makes me laugh.
I’ve never played this game and I’m learning to finally join the community but “I talk to god and he told me his weakness is his left pinky toe” made me cry laughing
imagine if the plauer talked to god and the dm said "i'm the god, i've been helping you this whole time but i am done". amd i'm taking half your items hehehe bye.
"As you grasp the second orb, the ground begins to shake"
"And up from the earth rises a tarrasque!"
"But this is no ordinary tarrasque"
"This is a winged metal-skinned tarrasque"
"WITH A GUN"
"ROLL FOR INITIATIVE MOTHERF*CKERS"
That's Metal Rasque!? It's already active!
The DOOM Slayer: "This again?"
:) my level 20 bear totem barbarian/ moon Druid says hi enjoy a raging fire elemental who takes half damage to damn near absolutely everything
"metal-skinned"
that means fire immune
Heavy metal starts playing
"The paladin brings down the power of the sun". Meanwhile Zariel is just vibing with her resistance to radiant damage and regeneration that only get stopped by radiant damage.
That's because zariel praised the sun.
That sounds like Esconor
Or... Chill Touch rsrsrs
@@marcosantonio-hj7vp Let me introduce you to the hottest new ability for all regenerating monsters: Can't touch this.
My dm forgot that zariel had resistance to radiant, we were lvl 13, but a double crit from the paladin still hurts. So we killed zariel in like 3 turns, at least he gave Haruman resitance to magic dmg, i don't blame the DM, everybody makes mistakes sometimes.
6:15 The "Yes" of my life.
funny that he looked at the ring as if it was starting to heat up from "Heat Metal" before he corrected himself xD
I have to introduce you to the most OP lvl 1 spell, "faerie fire"
I see your faerie fire and raise you guiding bolt.
Faerie fire is my favorite spell =)
@@bassettehound you can't see invisible people with guiding bolt, can you? You can't even make the ranged attack while he is invisible. BUT if you land a faerie fire on this BBEG, all of his arsenal will render useless
With greater invisibility, ventriloquism and counterspell, good luck.
Oh. And advantage on magic because he's a devil
@@hn1368 Not all of it! He can still Teleport, can still cast Major Image, still has advantage on saving throws against spells and magical effects, still has legendary actions, etc.
The strongest monster in dnd is the fucking plant from Storm King’s Thunder that is somehow CR 0.
My DM must have skipped that monster. Please explain
Wild Walnut in the book there’s an awakened tree called Lifferlas, if I remember it’s basically a friendly NPC so that’s probably why it has 0 challenge rating. The comment is a joke that the tree is paradoxically powerful.
@@funnyswangoosething5088 Ooooh. Fair enough
Everyone always says "Shambling mound is strong". Do you guys know what a corpse flower does? What about the tri-flower fond, gas spore, wood woad, assassin vine, mantrap...
There is a reason why plants are underused monsters... It's because if your DM is making you fight a plant, HE WANTS YOU TO DIE!
Which chapter is it in?
Really awesome job with the video, everyone. Looks really clean with you in front of all the info behind you.
You know, if you wanna make the Tarrasque more interesting; one thing it can apparently do in its lore is…what’s the term? Earth shift? It can phase through earth and rock, and that’s actually where it comes from and where it goes when it’s not hungry; it sleeps in large subterranean boulders. Like actually phased inside them.
I don’t know why they don’t include that in his stat block, maybe they retconned it away (or maybe I was just fed bad info. Always possible); but you could totally incorporate it into some challenging abilities. Like if more damage seems a waste of a legendary action, maybe have the Tarrasque simply sink into the ground to dodge damage and jump out on the otherwise of the party.
the actual ACTUAL strongest monster in dnd is the fabled "adventurer"
Lol have them fight a party of mercs hired by the bbeg thats a mirror of the party lmao
"meh, my players are mary sues because they're interested in the story I've made and do things stated in their classes together"
- You.
Y'all know how they stated Gods (and important NPCS) in 1st and 2nd edition?
They gave them class levels. No level cap. Hit 20th level in a class? Give them levels in other classes.
Lol true
@@itwasidio1736 what are you talking about?
An important note for dealing with greater invisibility: the old find their square and toss a bag of flour trick does not cost a spell slot. So every adventurer of any level should always have a 3 pound sack of flour
A sack of flour, 10 foot pole, 50 ft of rope, and a bag of caltrops can solve a lot of problems.
That much flour should cause damage
Once it stops being the flour-man's turn though, the demon would then teleport to a different location, where there isn't a bag of flour under his feet
I once cast light on a crossbow bolt and then fired it at the invisible enemy (at Lvl 5). It didn't work :(
@@williamnixon3994 he would still be covered in flour though
I just started my first full campaign as a monk (open hand). Absolutely loving the content and presentation in these videos!!
One of the only encounters I ever ran that genuinely terrified and challenged my party was one where they fought a white dragon on a heavily obscured foggy mountain. Most of their abilities relied on line of sight and they were rolling really poorly on perception so... they beat it eventually but it forced them to actually use strategy
You can feel Spencer's stare when Jacob says "love of my life" and quickly changes it to "second love of my life."
I rofl so hard after he looked at his finger!
@@blackandwhitecats4243 You just know at that moment he thought "Oh Sheet! My wife is gonna see this video and then I will get in TROUBLE, Unless!!!" :)
@@loka7783 He would be sleeping on the couch if he didn't say the "UNLESS!" excuse.
@@blackandwhitecats4243 same
@@blackandwhitecats4243 unless his wife is in on the joke... i doubt he saod it while recording and didn't remove it while edditing the video, without knowing that it wouldn't be a problem for him
Answer: The random creature the party made a pet.
They will bend over backwards to rescue or enrich it, leading to many side adventures that cause just enough of a delay for the world to end while they are distracted.
That is evil
Uni, is that you?
Spencer staring blankly into your soul: "counterspell"
Slippery slope? Their heads were full of dope.
Generally speaking, the strongest encounters are the ones where the enemies are intelligent and have access to most of if not all of the same tactics the players are fond of using. Players hate it when their own broken tactics get used against them. They hate it with a passion.
...Which is why I love to use them so much.
Or you can be like my DM and throw 12 goblins, an orc, and an ogre at the party of 3 level ones. We only managed to win because me and the Druid started a massive forest fire with firebolt and control flame.
@@youshouldntadidthat7691 sounds like fun that he let you mcguyver your way out of that one
I ran a campaign where the party mostly fought against enemies with PC levels near their own. You have a buttload of awesome abilities and repertoire of world altering spells? Cool, so do the guys you're fighting.
@@jamesbrooks9321
Yo, my DM does the same with his important encounters too.
Both nerve wracking and fun to fight, actually
@@red-havic9123 yeah. Scariest BBEG is a level 17 wizard when you’re a level 13 party.
I have a homebrew creature with a reverse AC. You have to hit below its AC to hurt it.
I watched my party be confused for 2 hours. It only has 20 HP
Ohh that's mean
So basically to hit it the ranger has to aim at the other side of the room?
@@EJFreelancer that dm would have to be real cool for that to work lol
@@EJFreelancer or just use magic missile xdd
this is so trolly I love it, may I steal the idea for... scientific study? :D
The most terrifying/strongest monster is a DM that allows Player Character Deaths & TPKs as well as play R.A.W.!
Antimagic fields, A creature that stalks the party when they're sleeping (When they wouldn't be wearing armor aand equipment so it's a scramble to get prepared during combat with whatever attacked them) There are a few things you can do if you brainstorm
Strongest monster is a little old lady with a walking stick - watch as she chasses those pesky adventurers off her lawn, with the help of her dogs Fluffy, Rex, Pongo, Duke, King, and a bunch more (who are all secretly Ancient Dragons of different colors that like to help out this confused old lady.)
God forbid she has a chancla or wooden spoon
@@kaelang12 Chancla is sandal, right?
@@lockwoan01 ye. its power is limitless, and can take on any foe
@@kaelang12 That's because it is a +5 weapon that reduces the foe's AC by 10, and deals 2d20s worth of *each* type of damage - cutting, bludgeoning, piercing, fire, cold, poison, psychic, lightning, thunder, force, radiant, necrotic, (and so on), plus Strength Modifier, which is actually a +7, as she's a Level 20 Barbarian.
@@lockwoan01 barbarian granny with vorpal chancla; dear god...
my strategy for high level parties is to let them steam roll normal encounters and try to make bosses ridiculously overpowered (which doesn't even work half the time)
Dam tj dint expect to se you here
I think Epic Level is more about outsmarting the players. Epic evil Wizards should target the party's weaknesses, not so much as to instaTPK them but to force the party to think. Some DMs may just put monsters with certain immunities to force the party to fight them only in the way the DM wants, but that's not fun and not very clever.
Instead to make your players think the DM can employ misdirection, difficult choices, moral quandaries, and within those scenarios place occasional ridiculously overpowered monsters.
@@ejedwards1678 How is a Mimic having the strength to launch someone faster than the sound barrier possible? It has a Strength of 17.
You do know that D&D damage does not directly correlate to Neutons of force, right? It sounds like you just read the description of the Mimic to imagine a monster physically stronger than its stat block.
wow i love your videos didn’t know you played d&d
Oh snap, T1J is here!
i do not understand a word that came out of you for the entire video but i love it. i cant wait to start dnd
Can confirm, my players had the annoyance of their lives fighting a villain with the titivilus stat block. Thanks, it was a blast!
Playing monsters smart is just as important as CR, I will say that there are two monsters that are worthy of the level 20 party killing mantle, namly Tiamat at CR 30, and my personal favourite, Sul Khatesh from eberon at CR 28 which is truly terrifying xD
Sul Khatesh is my favorite as well. Three 9th level spells and a half meteor swarm/half anti-magic field that she's immune to? Yes please.
A regular dragon should be able to TPK. Tiamat shouldn't be statted in the first place since she's a literal god.
It's arguable whether or not this is official, but it comes from Adventurers League - Shargrailar from Wings of Death will give any party a run for their money
@@bud389 but they are a god that actively aren't worshipped by those that they rule over, from my understanding, this puts them on the lowest tier of gods and it's not the actual Tiamat but a avatar of Tiamat and is substantially weaker then the god form. Also lv 20 adventures are the apex of mortals who are on the edge of reaching into the realm of gods. But I dont have a lot of first hand experience with lore just what others have told me is lore.
@@bud389 she's a literal god that you can fight though. Hence stats.
The most challenging foe a party I DM in my home brew dnd was a shapeshifter that replaced one of the players, and even the replaced player didn’t knew. They had to remember all traps in the doungeon to discover who had been replaced .
I had a PC be duplicated. I got the player to play as the dupe. The party was totally freaked out. But, since the dupe also was a dupe of the mental parts (e.g. tenets, background), the dupe was not evil, and actually quite helpful. But, totally freaked everyone out. Tons of fun.
how did you get the replaced player to not know about the shapeshifter?
@@bloky5556 it was quite dificult because the character that was replaced had died, and I gave him a second chance at life with a profecy. But the profecy was 8 parts long.
@@michaelpeele5739 Yeah, that's always fun.
a DM of one of my games basically had one of our characters cursed and possessed. Gave the player his own abilities plus some shit that a barbarian could never have like invisibility and some other spells. Then told the player to try his best to tpk the party.
Dude had a blast and nearly downed all of us, but we got him just in time.
Artificer infusion gem of Seeing boom dead.
A dmpc cult that teleports in and out different dmpcs every turn at the same spot while a cleric heals the previous hurt dmpc.
Here’s a fun one: you know scp-939? It’s a canine like creature that can mimic the voices it hears. Put some of those in a magical darkness room and see how your players do when they hear “hello?” And they get a nice bite attack of 2d6 + the dog’s strength
There is a creature similar, called a Leucrotta I believe. They have the mimic ability. Used a pack of them in my one of my players villages, were using it to hunt children and stragglers of hunting parties. Can totally see the Alpha of a pack using a form of the darkness spell.
I did something like this, but i used velociraptors, because they have a reputation in popular media. I literally just gave them the kenku's mimicry trait and increased their intelligenc a little.
When i described that litte feathered lizard, with blood all over his face from a previous prey, imitating the voice of a player and running to the forest, they had a collective internal scream
"Zariel, Archduchess of Avernus. Love of my life"
*looks at his ring*
"Second Love of my life"
*Couch avoided successfully*
1st level faerie fire just sitting here being able to reveal the guy again. Loved the vid
Finally, a use for the Grappler feat. If a beefy grappler gets their hands on him and pins, fight over
I honestly think one of the toughest encounters you can pit against the PCs is a rival party of adventurers. Take a bunch of other fully-statted, fully-equipped, level-equivalent characters and let them wreak havok...! But it's an absolute headache to set up and run, especially for new GMs.
D&D was not balanced for PvP. One or two fights like this is alright, but I had a DM who did it like six times and it got old fast.
You really have to be careful though. Paladins and fighters have far more burst that you imagine. Generally monsters can’t oneshot PCs, but PCs most certainly can which isn’t really all that fun.
Why not send the Inquisition after them with a party of Paladins, clerics to smite the ever living daylights out of them along with a Guild of Assassins and the tax collectors ?
@@matthewporter7871 They mean a rival party as a rival NPC party of adventurers, my DM has done this before in his homebrew world. It was fun.
@@thisislame2207 I know but I believe the implication was that these NPC adventurers used PC stats, as in like a lvl 5 fighter which is what I was addressing.
I helped a friend pull this in a Rise of Tiamat game where the rival party was the cults 2nd strike team. It was a bunch of classes the party had never seen and they got fuckin stomped, and only survived because they had one of their party members nuke the area they were fighting in
So what I'm hearing from this is that just like most war against a powerful foe, you need to start using guerilla tactics.
Maybe instead of using invisibility and whatever else, you can just use good old fashioned secret tunnels and traps.
Overpowered players? Have them face batman.
That's a fair point. Players being level 15 doesn't mean bandits stop terrorizing small villages. But the ones who try to use numbers to beat these level 15 demigods will lose. Smart ones will use traps, hit and run, and maneuverability/home field advantage to wear the party down until the retreat, or a group of 10+ CR 1/4 bandits somehow stand a chance at defeating high level adventurers. Hell, toss in a berserker or 2 to add some beef to the lineup.
you just described Tucker's Kobolds
kobolds are excellent for this. Its hilarious when the higher level parties encounter a large settlement warded against teleportation and scrying magic filled to the brim with traps and they just charged headlong into it without scouting because they deemed kobolds to not be a threat. 5 entered two left and they never actually encountered a single kobold. The kobolds weren't even home and weren't actually evil. Got to play with two expectations there both don't run face first into a lawnmower and also stop trying to solve everything like a murderhobo. The kobolds returned the bodies for resurrections afterwards but kept the loot for their hoard.
As a player I love the power fantasy aspects of high level or epic level campaigns. But without a doubt as a DM they are horribly frustrating to manage while keeping rhe challenge. This is a nice way to do a simple workaround, kudos for the concept
Just ran my level 16 party through Titivilus. He kept the two rogues (soul knife and Arcane Trickster) under his control to keep the Barbarian (Storm Herald (Sea)) busy, while the Bard (Loremaster) ran around the battlefield with Detect Evil and Good trying to find a teleporting Invisible devil. It would have been a TPK if they hadn't used a custom artifact that lets them randomly jump to other planes. All because the bard didn't think See Invisibility was useful enough to learn.
At some point, I'm going to adapt the 4e Tarrasque to 5e, because it looks a lot more interesting by comparison: basically it has its own field of gravity that keeps flying creatures within 200 feet of it close to it, it ignores resistances, it has an attack it can only use while at half health or less (so a pseudo second phase), and some other neat stuff. So that'll be fun!
we do NOT talk about 4e!
@@randomcat1015 but 4e had lots of good stuff in it 🤔
Whats 4e
@@milkman4407 4th edition of D&D
Drop a 2nd edition tarasque in
"he doesn't have ranged attacks" - not with my DM! When I was flying and shooting a troll he casually picked up a rock, threw it. Of course, it hit me and I fell down
that actually makes sense
@@jjstcase kinda. By the rules Rock can be regarded as improvized weapon and thus it will have pretty small range (20 feet or something like this), but its just the rules
@@talkingbirb2808 even if you say he can throw it further cause he's a strong boi or something, he cant throw it 80ft. straight up. if your DM says he can then i hope it matters to the plot
@@yoni5919 Well... to be fair, depending on the size of the rock, I'm pretty sure even a standard real-life human could throw a rock 80ft into the air, so... yeah... I don't really see it as being that much of a stretch
@@SaryM29 but he said the rock hit him and he fell down, so that would mean the rock had to be pretty heavy. Also, im assuming most people dont have training throwing rocks and would not be able to hit a human-sized target 80ft. Above them aim-wise.
When my party of four players get to level 18 I’m sending them on a quest to kill “something very powerful” (taraqse) along with a god (the god is recruiting them for help retrieving their weapon) and I’m hoping that they shred it so easily that it impresses the god.
this guy: *describs the strategy of tityman*
me:sooooo basically a demon mosquito?
DnD comments aside, that "Remember your married" glance at your ring finger? 10/10. Subscribed for the humor alone.
I have a friend who is married and he and his wife have favourite waifus.
One time as a joke i said "arent you worried your wife will get jealous?"
She says "nah, because im the real deal"
We all had a good laugh
Let's just make this more "challenging" give a tarrasque titivilus's abilities
He doesn't need it, if the DM is worth his salt.
...but if the DM isn't worth their salt (or their pepper), then the DM could take the 10 most powerful creatures they can find, combined all their abilities into one creature, with all their stats being 30(+10)...and make them invisible.
...also the phrase "worth his salt" comes from how people used to be paid for jobs in salt, hence the word "salary".
@@matthewwells2520 saltary, you could say?
Take the tarrasque, give it tentivilus's abilities, more hit points, expand his attack range and make him fly. Seems pretty balanced to me.
But the tarrasque is a bigger target so it will be easier to find it
I use my canteen to splash him with water and my bonus action to hurl a small bag of flour I use for making bread at him.
The divinity music of the video is simply great
5:43 "Second love of my life."
You can't fool me Jacob. Spencer has been Zariel archduke of Avernus all along!
Have YOU ever seen them in a room at the same time? Of course not! Suspicious… 🤨
Having intelligent AND invisible foes are really challenging.
I used some druegars in Forge of Fury who set up an ambush, even with a somewhat low CR it was challenging!
The tried and true Tucker method.
A level one cleric can kite a tarrasqe to death in a matter of hours singlehandedly.
titi to the party-" I do not destroy the body, I simply fracture the mind"
Yeah, agree with pretty much everything here. Low level dnd is about making your players feel special by feeding them monsters that their characters have advantages against (ie: send treants at your pyromancer, slow things at your rogues and monks, and enemy spellcasters at that one dude who took Mage slayer for some reason.
High level dnd is where you realize that anything short of an encounter designed around the ridiculous people in your group will fall flat on its face and die instantly, so you have to be a lot more rude with the monsters you use.
As an alternative to this cool demon dude I will be stealing for my own games, I encourage y’all to look into Tucker’s Kobolds if you haven’t already. They shred players of any level
Is Tucker's Kobolds an actual monster or a method for encounter design?
Hoodie X Design method.
I have never seen anyone pull of Tuckers Kobolds in 5E convincingly. They either give the Kobolds virtually infinite resources or magic items or buff them a whole lot. A high level party with casters just has so many ways of bypassing any trap that normal kobolds could even conceive of let alone create. You cannot really replicate the original Tucker's Kobolds, because it is from a much older edition with very different rules, unless you cheat and just ignore the premise of normal kobolds challenging or even killing a high level party.
My DM almost slapped my high level group with intellect devourers inside ettins. I borrowed his idea on how to use intellect devourers and ramped it up by a thousand. The players will discover this quite later in the campaign though...
My DM's answer to this question last campaign was a custom two-headed legendary adult dragon that had a twin soul one half was undead, and had 1500 hit points.
He threw this at us after a dungeon of 300 undead Orcs.
We were level 12, needless to say we killed all of them and the dragon.
If you're wondering how, the dragon was killed because of a 9th level spell scroll for heat metal, which was used on a sword which was stabbed into the base of the neck of the dragon.
The dragon then retreated with a party member, so myself and the other Aasimar used our daily flight ability to follow, and while following we put every single alchemist fire, vial of gunpowder, oil flask, and any other flammable object we could find in our inventory sheet into a a backpack and then dropped the barbarian along with it on the dragon blowing it up.
The barbarian lived as he was raging and I gave him a necklace of fire resistance prior to that.
We leveled like four times.
The DM said we were supposed to retreat.
A friend of mine was being chased by a couple young red dragons and used the magic paints (idr the name) to make a tarrasque with wings. He tried to make a second to kill the first, which failed. Oh, he made the flying tarrasque, it just mated instead of killing. It was a Sci fi scenario, so we managed to get off world, but... uh... that world's population was annihilated, and when we got to 20th level, an NPC who didn't know we caused the problem hired us to deal with it. We failed and barely got away. Apparently that particular breed of Tarrasque was absurdly fecund.
Isn’t this basically EVOLVE?
@@scottoknowsthat was a cool game tho
very intersting thoughts there that can also be applied for balancing the difficulty of a video game. currently building a little text-driven dnd-like rpg and love the idea of a stealthy boss
That's because 5e for some reason made the Tarrasque a weaksauce. Maybe they did because it's an iconic monster and people wanted to actually use it in games -- notice how Sul Khatesh is specifically imprisoned and her statblock is hypothetical.
But yeah, despite 3.5 Tarrasque being CR20 (whereas 5e is CR30) it was impossible to kill without a 17th level wizard or cleric. Not only did it have damage reduction 15/epic (i.e. all incoming physical damage is reduced by 15 unless it's inflicted by +6 or better weapons), spell resistance 32 (meaning each time you cast a spell on it you have to roll d20, add your level and beat 32 to attempt to affect it), regeneration 40 (meaning each round it regained 40 hp). The real kicker was that all damage it received was nonlethal and it was immune to effects that kill; the only way to kill it was to reduce it to 0 hp and cast a wish or miracle (wish's divine counterpart) to make it stay dead.
I mean, obviously damage reduction and spell resistance are obsolete mechanics for 5e, but why on earth would they remove regeneration? Even vampires have it, surely a big fat chunk of meat famously resilient monster should have it too.
I know. Like the Tarrasque’s most unique lore feature has always been it endlessly regenerates from any wound, but in 5e it doesn’t have actual hp regeneration? Like what the hell!?
There were plenty of ways to kill 3.5e Terrasque without a 17th level wizard or cleric. The fun ones include things like Magic Jar shenanigans, but also there's also simple stuff like just throwing it in lava which deals more damage per round than it can recover (20d6 per round!). Technically it's not "dead" but it's at negative a million hp and not going to bother anyone ever again. Only the shittiest of DMs would call that anything but defeating the terrasque.
3.5e, with all its supplements, was a shitshow. Be thankful for what we have with 5e.
@@BreadDestroyer do you think due to its Earth Glide ability, and Lava is just molten earth, the Tarrasque could just pass though lava fine?
@@BreadDestroyer I mean, lava deals fire damage, and 3.5 Tarrasque is specifically immune to fire. Regardless, I didn't say there was no way of containing it (a simple plane shift to the plane of, say, water is much easier than any magic jar shenanigans, and it's a 5th level spell for a cleric), I said it was impossible to _kill_ without a 9th level spell. And assuming the DM didn't just build a world where Tarrasque always wandered the countryside, it got released at some point, and if it was done by some nefarious actor, like a cult or a lich, they could undo whatever containment the party came up with.
tl;dr: yes, you could contain it without 9th level spells, but containment only creates ticking time bomb until someone undoes it.
Certainly don't need being told what to be thankful for. 5e is more neat and streamlined (so far), but also far less diverse and at later level less epic. And a lot more in 5e falls to the DM, as they just removed some rules and left it up for the DM to judge.
How is no one talking about 3.5 hecatoncheires?
CR: 57
Thank you for spreading awareness early on that the scariest thing about dragons is that *they're freakin' FIGHTER-BOMBERS!*
(J.R.R. Tolkien even compared the Nazgul's dragon-birds to WWII German Stukas....)
This video inspired me to start designing a campaign where the bbeg is a wizard who managed to keep his magic through the damaging of the weave, and has just been living since, and hes now grown bored and is trying to create new life. And as the party does their thing they encounter some of his creations
Hearing the Warriors of the Eternal Sunshine music gave me a blast from the past
Best advice I ever heard for single monster vs party encounters is to "bend" the action economy of the vanilla monsters and give them bonus actions, reactions, and "villain" actions (lesser forms of Legendary actions). Matt Colville and the Dungeon Coach have great videos about it. Makes even the weakest monster super interesting and has the party scrambling for ideas! :) I've used this homebrew rule in my game for the last few years and it is super fun modifying monsters this way, doesn't make them unkillable (they still usually only last 3 to 4 rounds), but it makes the combat last beyond 1 round!
and terrain that impairs some types of actions.
Sometimes you want a group of wolves or knights to each get an attack in, and other times you just want one who does everything by themselves. I certainly prefer this to being forced to add minions to *every* boss encounter.
Another thing to note:
The rules as written in the PHB for counterspell requires the caster to be able to see the creature casting a spell. Thus, if you were playing completely raw the players could not counterspell anything this guy throws at them while invisible.
also raw they know where he is without stealth but it's a common mistake soo, don't know
Isn't invisibility a concentration spell? So you can't cast spells while you're invisible? Including counter spell?
@@nathanschultz7950 you can cast other spells wishlist concentrating. But you if you cast a second concentration spell, it drops the first one
@@nathanschultz7950 Yes you can? Who told you that?
@@nathanschultz7950 Invisibility automatically ends when you attack or cast a spell unless it's greater invisibility. Not because it's concentration but because of the nature of the spell
Jacob: "...1st to 10th level is, like, A+ D&D..."
*Larian Approves*
Give the Tarrasque a super roar that forces a con save to avoid thunder damage and being knocked out of the sky.