Who Is More OPPRESSED Men Or Women?! (Michael Knowles DEBATE)
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Patriarchy is literally about protecting women from bad men and bad women. Patriarchy comes from “father”.
Rule of fathers.
Technically speaking, "patriarchy" and "father" both come from the Greek, πάτερ/πατέρ. Interestingly father entered the English language before patriarch or patriarchy, but patriarchy is the older word with the more direct lineage to the Greek by way of Middle French, while father came to English by way of Old High German.
I like the way all 3 of the 304s turned up with pens and notebooks but still got destroyed by one man with a cigar.
Convincing these women that being a 304 is wrong is like trying to convince a 5yr old that eating cake is bad for them. They might agree, but they'll eat as much cake as you put in front of them. Patriarchy is the salvation of women!
Exactly. The standard of today's society is selfish consumption. Just like what Knowles said in this clip about following lower brain appetites. Imagine a sovereign society of children. They would democratically decide that eating only cake and ice cream is beneficial, and that eating vegetables was a parentarchal conspiracy to oppress children. Feminists use that same logic. Having rules for good behavior is not oppression. Many people think, and argue, the opposite, however. It's not "hurting" anyone to only eat cake and ice cream, but it does damage individuals and broader society to set a norm like that. Enforcing any rule, or standard, requires some element of force, and people perceive that to be violent oppression.
"Playboy's wholesome, though." Michael outing himself as a low-key man of culture? XD
I'm glad Michael called Farha out on her claim that women were more "marginalized" while simultaneously arguing that women were dominating academia and occupying all these sought-after roles in STEM.
"I like men that have the same values as me" - aka none whatsoever.
The lawyer had me laughing hard. 😂She says she thought long and hard and came to the conclusion that
being a virtual prostitute was in line with her values. What lovely values and morals.
From what I see, many lawyers are completely shameless and mercenary, so her conclusion does not surprise me in the least - especially since prostitution is being promoted as another respectable job. Once society has rejected a God-given standard of morality, anything goes.
I actually have to give this woman props; she knows what she is, she's able to cogently articulate and defend WHY she is what she is, and have a civil discourse with Michael without getting butt-hurt or defensive about it. I actually enjoyed watching this one...unlike some others I've seen.
I agree the girls did really well no screaming or shouting or adhom attacks over all a good discussion..
“It’s not hypocrisy to have a standard and failing” man I’ve tried to explain this so many different ways but that was an excellent phrase. I’m stealing it
it is hypocrisy though
@@xybersurferit’s not
@@PedroLopez-qu8wt people can fail personal standards all they want, as long as they don't hold others to it. but that's not the case here. Michael Knowles debates from a religious perspective (Catholicism), where the standards are set by religion. religion typically holds everyone to it's standard, and thus so does he
Hypocrisy consists in declaring, for the sake of appearances, that you believe in certain moral standards, when in fact you don't believe in them and don't try to live according to them. If we have high moral standards, we will often fail to meet them, because no one is and never will become perfect. But the point is to try to do the right thing.
He’s so intelligent and not foxed by anything
Him and Andrew in a podcast would make my day
I second that
I like Andrew but he'd tarnish Michaels gentlemanly style somewhat imo
They would fight between themselves the whole time about what the correct religion is. 😂
But yeah, it would be good content if they stay on topic.
Nope. Michael has charisma and is respectful of others in the room. Andrew is the opposite of both of those things.
@@kennethiavail1719I guarantee Tate would show Knowles immense respect. If you think otherwise, you haven't seen that much of Tate.
Not gonna lie this clip has more civil arguments and less emotional takes, I hope this continues for this show
He is elegant with words
these OF girls are very thought provoking. does anybody know if they take it in the an us? Always good to check a speaker's credentials before investing in their opinions.
Seriously? Im a right wing, mom and wife here---
Get some brain 🧠 cells my dude. I respect how intelligent and respectful they were. Wanna run it run it towards the rude guests.
@Sky-tg5rt OH shut up. Ones wearing glasses without lens, and has countless times used words incorrectly. They also weren't even aware of the general statistics/meta analysis Michael was referencing because they were referencing uncontextualized stats, and just regurgitating common political talking points. I would also disagree if you watched all the other clips of this meeting that they were respectful. He had to fight to finish a point.
Find them "intelligent", or "respectable" if you want, but that just says a whole lot about your own critical thinking. Those if us who actually fact check will do no such thing, regardless of how twisted it makes your panties. I would cry a river if I had a daughter that was remotely like them.
Good talk
Class‼️❗️
bro please do not stray away from this format. the other vids are amazing but they always lose the plot. during this vid they came to about 5 or 6 major understandings and moved forward. they didnt shame or atk anymore, just good dialog
"As the feminist perceive them, and the liberals that came before...."
No, feminism isn't a liberal movement, they just happen to be aligned enough that one can lamprey on the other. Plenty of conservative women identify as feminist as well, and thanks to a movement in the Overton window, someday someone on some show somewhere will make the same asinine statement that "As the feminist perceive them, and the conservatives that came before...."
Need to get Klavan on here one day
Adulthood is recognizing that everyone is going through our own crap and facing oppression in certain ways. I hate this whole versus thing that some men and women have caused. As a woman I wouldn’t want to be a man and as a woman I also see certain ways that things can be better for women. Bottom line, we are all drowning especially if you aren’t the 1%
I love hearing Norm’s name out of nowhere.
He would love this podcast.
The people that have it the worst are the working class that make just enough not to qualify for assistance, but don't make nearly enough to pay all these ridiculous co-pays, donut holes and other exorbitant medical bills. These are the people that work multiple jobs. They eat whatever food they can afford, not what is organic and healthy. They are caught in that gray area between the entitlement class and the wealthy who have Cadillac health care plans. These are the people that can't afford to have children and worry constantly about how to pay their rent, utilities and insurance payments. They are usually one catastrophic event away from living in their car. Often raised to take care of themselves, they haven't learned yet how to work the entitlement system and fall thru the cracks. In the last century the church and charities would often step in. Now everything is given over to the government, which is probably the most inefficient and corrupt organization that exists to administer any program.
Love how she said “cocaine people are still highly functioning attorneys on cocaine”. She literally just confirmed the fact that she’s a cokehead. Lawyer was the first thing that came into her head cause she’s a lawyer. Her mouth is twitching constantly.
Michael Knowles talking about vices with a cigar on the table, promoting a vice that is harmful to the body that god says is his temple to his audience, while criticizing women for promoting a different vice. The Catholic Church has openly condemned excessive use and abuse of tobacco.
It’s the hypocrisy for me.
That Asian girl in the back is the most oppressed. She never gets to say a word.
It’s better to be low class than lower middle class simply because you qualify for things like food stamps, medicare, and low income housing. The low class has something to fallback on while the lower middle has to struggle qualifying for anything. Especially housing.
As Paul said, " Why lord do I do the things I don't want to do, yet I don't do the things I should do?"
This question is not just for men, it's also for women.
It's not about gender, it's about what is most important to the individual, to some it's sexual, to some it's emotional, and to some it's financial.
The point is, it's about greed, it boils down to the view of, what's in it for me?
Oscar Wilde said something similar, but much shorter: "I can resist anything except temptation."
whats the story with the girl in the helmet? I see her in a lot of videos...
It's his assistant
@@cjfrm3658 What does she even assist with?
@BfoSHIZnats most likely his gym balls
@@BfoSHIZnatsshe joins the panel when one of these Delusional OF girls backs out. She talks more substance than 90% of the female guests.
@@BfoSHIZnatsshe assists in blankly staring at the camera adding nothing at all lol
Women just can’t debate without going to the most extreme version of any subject.
Their brains can only do extremes.
Religion isn’t a shield from all vices, but it dose provide a salve for most sun induced injuries. As to why evangelicals do this kinda thing? They have a much more lenient theology than Micheal dose as a catholic or me as an orthodox catechumen, even then I still struggle with sin. We’re human and if we didn’t struggle with vice, then we would have no need for Christ’s teachings.
I usually have a negative comment due to getting angry on these clips. But what an interesting coherent conversation. Everyone really did a good job at making points and listening to opposing points. That was really refreshing to
The problem is everyone provides statistics but no one is sitting through and giving ananysis of any of it. Correlation VS causation, how the data was obtained ect.. So it's all discussions about stuff that is flimsy at best to try and post hoc rationalize a position. All the women are trying to do is establish doubt," that might not be true because I read a buzz feed statistic that says the opposite, therefore your argument is invaild"
Michael Knowles is so articulate
Haven’t seen this podcast before - what’s the deal with the girl (not a feminist/panelist) sitting behind Michael with a Prussian military helmet?
The girl with the Keiser helmet always looks so sad!
She has to deal with OF morons every day.
My thought is because she works there and has to listen to these OF girls babble nonsense all day😖
She wins the award for ZERO PARTICIPATION. I really don't understand why she's in the videos she does nothing but exist as a background object.
@@PatriotJedishe works for the show. If a girl leaves the big shows she fills in. Girls flake like crazy.
Because she knows she’s damaged herself
This is the A-Team a female panelists
That chick at the end has a fantastic pair of flicks
Hey guys I just recently found this podcast and it's been doin alot to help me understand people an why the world has become more insane has been
I love when she says that men are louder because they speak more words per minute. That is misleading. Its women 220 men 223. That means that on average it takes LESS time for a man to say the same amount of words than it does for a women. But it gets worse... total words a day is women 16215 and men 15669. So even though women take longer to say the same amount of words... they also speak way more words in a day... so by the end of the day the total amount of time women spend talking is much more than men. When using her own method... women are louder than men.
Its funny how you say women are marginalized but how when they turn 18 they don't have to join selective server, how when then turn 18 they can start an OF page and make thousands of dollars just selling feet picks, or how you can attract a man without any accomplishments yet you don't look a mans way without accomplishments, how when you can act like a man but still want to be treated like a lady? How when there are women shelters and not men shelters?
She wears glasses with no lenses. Think of that before you take anything she says seriously.
1:28 just waiting on the sidelines to snipe again and again from her perpetually ignorant position
Who is the random Asian chick in the back that never talks?
Low-key Michael and Jazmine were kind of flirting
How dare you sir
SEND THE ASTROID...... 16:14
Moral incongruence is problematic, you can literally apply it to all forms of pleasure and fun. If you were beat over the head with a bible growing up, then pretty much all forms of pleasure are going to be seen as "bad" I don't see moral incongruence as unique to porn. But then again, she consistently sees the world as a wasteland void of morality, so who knows...
The stat that says more women graduate from college should be the first clue our college Are not doing a good job teaching our youth because How fast would these women go to a strong man if there was no internet no power how would they eatthere's no feminist then
Women speak way more than men do...
Fact.
men are also ignored more.
Notice how he focuses primarily, almost solely, on men in regards to literally anything we should be banning? Plays the feminist puppet strings well.
You're never going to stop people from using porn unless you first solve the crisis in marriage and family. It's a joke. Rampant Porn use is a symptom.
These two girls try too hard to appear smart
the episode has so many wins, from the cigars, to brian being in the center, to keko having a cigar in her mouth, to havin my favorite female podcast co-worker,
I LOVE YOU MADISON!!! YOU ARE AWESOME ♥ ♥ ♥ ! to having michael knowles!
the only downside is the 3 people on the right. especially that ONE in the middle... it seems like females with bangs are a bit further out there in terms of
psychosis... they're the "hidden in plain sight" versions of the so-called feminists who dye their hair and have wild haircuts and wear egregious outfits that
are all up in your face about it...
First of all, why do you think he destroyed them?
Hahaha .. These 304!
That one with the blue hair sexy af
Madison is adorable
Michael at 11:11
Don't look at her boobs, don't look at her boobs..don't, just don't.
Did mid-Khalifa say men speak more than women?
A lot of religious people are religious on the sole and only basis of being able to confess their sins and get forgiveness from God despite no interest in changing their ways, that's why in some religious states there's a higher rate of porn subscriptions
Ask the only fans girls to explain their work to their nieces that are 5 years old. I bet you they won't do it
Why would she explain it to her 5 Yr old niece she wouldn't explain it to her own 5 Yr old child either . Even if she did they wouldn't understand it anyway that's just stupid ..
@@aa5aysyzustuuzyz162 you need help lol
Pixie is awful in every single way.
Omg this made my day. Glad he points out Mid Kalifas poor use of the language she apparently knows. Marginal? Not at all based on YOUR stas and facts...well I FEEL. LOL another guy on here has said alot of their arguments are word for word Destiny rants but nothing smart behind it and this example proves it. She barely has a vocabulary of her own. Just put hit words, likes, and feels in your words and you're smart. Oh and glasses 😂
Utah looks at porn more California creates it more
It depends on which country your talking about. Outside the west woman are oppressed not in the west.
who that asian girl in the back in every podcast looking disinterested all the time?
That is Brian's assistant! She is not disinterested. She can not help but have disdain for some of the female guests!
That’s Maddison and she’s awesome!
I have been seeing lot of these videos recently and the girl in the hat always seems kinda sad
Western morality is based on judeo Christian principles. Before the Catholic Church there was barbarism. Confessions legally required torture in Rome for instance. They had law but barbarism remained. Torturer was a career choice . Law of the jungle
The girl in glasses has plastic surgery all over and lost the right to argue against "patriarchy" when she decided to do that to herself.
God is soo boring. Why are we still including fairy tales in our conversations?
Pixie needs to stop talking for a while in life and just observe for a while...
She is super annoying.
Michael Knowles: "I don't believe in studies"
... Proceeds to cite a bunch of studies lmao 🤡🤡🤡
This religious mumbo jumbo was so tiring. Instead of answering her questions he was desperately dodging.
Tell us you didn't understand his argument without telling me you didn't understand his argument....
@@nunyafukinbizness Digressive nonsense is not an argument.
As an Atheist, this guy is so full of it. He is doing the "no christian/Scotsman fallacy" on protestantarianism, etc.
But I find the woman's tone too hostile and confrontational.
If I was her I would have just said to him, without proving your religion has any basis in reality how can I take anything you say about anything because of your religion seriously.
All the studies he quoted are interesting, but without reading them, how can we have any opinion about what he claimed they showed. It's all hearsay.
I'm afraid the Whatever podcast is not the place for serious debates.
The studies are freely available on Google, so anyone can fact check what he's saying. You just have an axe to grind because he's of a different belief system than your own. There's also countless studies/multi-varied-meta analysis that has consistently shown those with religion rank higher in happiness, lower in mental illness, and donate more, along with more frequently, to charity. The last one shouldn't be surprising seeing as how some 40-60% of sub-saharan Africa's Healthcare is from Christianity specifically.
He was also correct on the difference in rates of abuse between preachers/religious leaders and public schools teachers. You'll be hard pressed to find a source that doesn't suggest the near highest rates of abuse are among public school teachers. It makes sense when you think of a job that gives you access to a community of people's children 6-8 hours a day, and that simultaneously puts you in a position of power/trust.
I'll end by saying I was hoping he would ask them why 90% of the abuse in the catholic church was male on male, or a certain community the left loves to champion. Also why they have higher rates of abuse in comparison to the general population..
@nunyafukinbizness "The studies are online." Well, there is a lot of stuff that is online including these posts. It doesn't make them true, unbiased or objective. If giving to charity includes giving to the church or a religious charity is that really the same thing as giving to a directly to charity?
And even if "religion" makes you happy, reduces mental illness, causes lasting long term relationships, it doesn't mean it is true, especially when "religion" is a blanket term for a near infinity of contradicting religious sects only ONE of which can possibly be true.
The only good reason to believe something is because it is at least more likely to be true than false. Advising an Atheist to believe in God for any other reason is pissing upwind. What you believe is not a choice, so statistics ain't going to do it. That said I am sure motivated Atheists could collect and quote statistics that make atheism look good.
Michael Knowles thinking his religion is the ultimate religion and is fact. LMAO 🤡
Michael is very moral and inciteful. I can relate to him coming from a traditional Catholic italian family myself. He should push back more instead of letting them get away with spouting bullshit like lower crime, violence etc. Its actually so much worse since biden and neo liberalism came to power.
Their point is that crime and violence have been on a decline for 30 years, a small uptick since 2020 isn't indicative of a worsening society. Gotta listen to their entire argument. Neo Liberalism has been in power basically since Bush.
the woman with the glasses is so insufferable.