! HOVER CAR'S HERE WE COME ! ! YOU CAN DO IT NICOL TELSA. We already have hoverboard's like in back to the future mind you a little late ....well they don't hover of the ground .....I mean but they........FUCKEN DAM IT !!
I think the problem is the surface area. In my opinion they have too few bolts on there and the few they have there are too far apart. I was expecting double the amount per rim.
if they just invert the valve timings, i mean when piston goes down (1st stroke) exhaust valve will be opened and when piston is going up for exhaust (4th stroke), intake valves will be opened. I think Garage 54 is capable of doing that. That would be nice to watch though. I hope they see ur comment and do this.
@@kurtsteiner7310 all of which are nearly impossible. turn your engine the wrong way and the timing chain falls off and the oil pump wont pump for starters
Good science is when you test theories. It doesn't always get you the results you thought or wanted. It's still good science! Keep it up, you scientists of Garage 54👨🔬👩🔬!
Lol I was like a what? Wyf is an ekranoplan 🤔 so I had to Google that shit 😂. I had no idea thats what thoes were called, you learn something new everyday I guess.
wheels would have to be wider for that. I'd suggest maybe welding other bolts across the tops of the existing bolts for more surface area (to keep the theme, and if there's enough clearance)
for when your roads dont have enough potholes for the council to come and resurface your street....garage 54, we made a machine to make potholes, you can rent our machine no problem
Translation made possible by Microsoft Translator. So, I think I know why all your wheels really dig into the snow. If you look at a regular tire. when you put chains on them. The chain digs into the snow till it hits the tire surface. If you have huge gaps the depth of where the rubber normally would be. Like on all the chain or bolt tires you have made. The snow is going to dig that deep until it compacts 100% but since you have openings on the outside the snow falls through there instead of compacting. in other words. it is pulling up the snow and earth as an excavator bucket does. If you fill in an excavator bucket with rubber you take less of a bite of the earth. If you make it solid somehow behind your surface making contact with the snow. The less snow and earth you will tear up. Like your bolt tire you made if it was 38mm long. You'd only dig down 38mm into the snow. Then the flat surface would support the tire you made, and you would have 38 mm of solid traction. Перевод сделан возможным благодаря Microsoft Translator. Так что, я думаю, я знаю, почему все ваши колеса действительно копаться в снегу. Если вы посмотрите на обычные шины. когда вы положили цепи на них. Цепь копается в снегу, пока не попадает на поверхность шины. Если у вас есть огромные пробелы глубины, где резина обычно будет. Как и на все цепи или болт шины вы сделали. Снег будет копать, что глубоко, пока он не уплотняет 100%, но так как у вас есть отверстия на внешней стороне снег падает через там, а не уплотнения. другими словами. он тянет вверх по снегу и земле, как экскаватор ведро делает. Если вы заполните экскаватор ведро с резиной вы берете меньше укуса земли. Если вы сделаете его твердым как-то за вашей поверхности в контактах со снегом. Чем меньше снега и земли вы будете рвать. Как ваш болт шины вы сделали, если он был 38 мм в длину. Вы бы только копать вниз 38 мм в снег. Тогда плоская поверхность будет поддерживать шины вы сделали, и вы бы 38 мм твердой тяги.
You guys are so crazy. I love it. We could never have those kinda fun experiments in the states. Atleast not to my knowledge. Thanx for sharing Team Garage 54. Love your videos. Also A Huge Thanx for all you do BMI Russian. Have a great day & night everyone.
Why not? If you have an independent garage, you could do any of these things. Even there he didn't want to take it out onto public roads for fear of the police. It's not that different
@@caodesignworks2407 A very good question. I do not have a privite garage like Team Garage 54. Plus from what I've seen the states is really weird. Particularly Alabama.
ya i guess there's a reason we don't use wheels like this. even the early metal wheels were solid round bands with traction lugs; you need something to float on softer material.
How about DIY run-flat tyres? - Mount a conventional tyre in the normal way, but fill it with as many tennis balls as you can cram in, and inflate as normal. Now, "arrange" to have a puncture in that tyre, and see how far you can drive on it before things get interesting/exciting? - Tip... Take a fire extinguisher with you, just in case!
Good try. But, I could see it slipping before he was welding the first bolt. Weld the heads to the wheel, that is a broader flat base for welding and stronger, will take more torque. Drill and tap pieces of rubber from old tires and screw onto the bolts. Experiment with different sizes. Try anything you can screw onto those bolts that will give surface area and traction. If they screw on, and wear out, replacement is easier. Break a bolt, weld another. There must be huge piles of old thick tires somewhere. Can they be cut with a bandsaw, drilled with a drill, tapped with a hot threaded screw? Or just heat the bolt and screw the pieces directly onto the threaded spokes. You only need threads at the end. Do some calculations and look on a concrete or hard surface to see how many bolts are hitting the ground at once. Weigh the car's force on each spoked wheel, and each spoke. You might not need 100. And they might not need to be that thick. How big a round thing can fit inside the wheel well? Why do you need wheel wells anyway? Would a bigger, lighter wheel with that many studs be better in snow and ice? Alternately, weld the heads to the wheel, weld thin metal around the outside. Take treads from old tires and screw or bolt to the all metal, spoked wheel. Inner wheel - spokes - outer metal ring -- old tire treads stuck on any way they will go on. Winter wheels, summer wheels, snow wheels, mud wheels. Three wheels, two wheels and slide, no wheels and hover. Your three thousand nails is close, but you are stuck on repeating things. Adjust the numbers as you go. Get someone to make a spreadsheet or calculate on a piece of paper. Weld bolt heads to the wheel, weld a metal thin plate to the rim. Weld fewer and shorter heads of nails to the metal wheel. So old wheel inside, few heavy bolts for spokes, thin metal, nails for traction. Why even use old wheels? You have them but do you need them? What is the minimum? A few holes to bolt it on? And a cylindrical place or ring to weld too? These cars are not that heavy? Do you even need all the stuff? What can you throw away and recycle? How many people in each car? I think you are not stretching yourself. And have not clearly understood your own motives in doing this. Who are you trying to help, and why? Tires are expensive and don't work that well in snow and ice. But why carry all that car weight? Just for pretty? Bare minimum and lots of rust preventer. Think about Mars and the moon. What would they need there? Cannot carry a lot. They need ways to make things locally. They don't need stylish. Works and easy to maintain, and fits the surfaces and conditions. Things that someone can do when you can't run home for everything. I hope i have not offended you. I wish I had time to see all of these videos. Your five flywheels was almost there. But you would have to find someone to help you with the stored energy calculations, angular momentum, torque and power modeling. Your feel for the performance and advantages in snow is good, but you can put things on paper or in computers and see them clearer, before you start buying and making models. Does the car industry in your country offer what people need? Before the electric car craze, many people were looking at flywheels. They can be fun. See who is around you in local schools or online. Best wishes, keep up the great work!! Richard Collins, Director, The Internet Foundation
Thank you for the experimentation I definitely appreciate these experimentation testing different concept trying different issue area trying different ideas I like the fact that you've using bolts Maybe by putting them closer together they seem to be too far apart it leaves too much space for the snow to go in the holes I definitely think this could potentially be helpful when it concerns ice I could probably drop of it you have some grub however maybe trying the experiment with what you have already in adding up more bolts to basically fill the holes the same way you could puncture the space is so tight maybe using the same concept however I've been watching your videos time to time and it is so cool to see these experiments done way2go garage 54 you doing experimentation which I would have done which I would have liked to do if I had my own garage thank you so much
Next video you guys should swap the brake, clutch, and accelerator pedals into different spots and see how hard it is to drive. Brake on the right, clutch in the middle, and gas on the left for instance lol. And for added fun put the shifter where the steering wheel should be and vice versa! 🤣
I would have thought the opposite would be true, but, like circular saw blades do, they seem to cut into the surfaces too deeply...... It is always fun to watch your videos, keep up the good work!
try welding like 2"x3"x3/16" angle iron to the wheels instead, and maybe some sharp ground chisel ended bolts protruding about an inch beyond the angle, in case you go on solid ice.
How about an expanding foam injected lada? here is what you do, you drill a hole in the intake manifold below the carb, run a pipe from the new inlet, then carefully connect it up to a source of expanding foam, run the engine hard and insert the expanding foam!
These should work on ground tough enough to not fall apart. The bolts being small and round meant it was easy for them to cut right through snow with no resistance. Then again once they cut down to the ground it was still too little surface area for them to push the larger surface area of the front wheels through snow. If it was all wheel or 4 wheel drive I think it may have moved. My guess is a firm dirt that will not fall apart too easily but will allow the bolts to sink in a bit will be ideal for these.
Crazy Rrroooski! I think if you cut them off and turn them around, they might do it. Plus, you'll get the benefit of the bolt heads being welded down, so larger surface area and stronger connection. Hey, why not?
try this again on a flat surface, you'll notice they appear to be on a slight incline and there were no problems reversing downhill, yet they kept spinning in forwards
Grind some x's in the heads, and fit some paddles between bolts, perhaps starting at 20mm below heads, thinking perhaps staggered pattern with spaces, could be worth a try.
You could probably gotten further if you had started out in 2nd or 3rd gear. That would divide the torque down to almost nothing and make it hard for the wheels to spin. I've used that technique many times on snow and ice and was able to climb fairly impassable hills.
Maybe they weren't inflated to the correct pressure ?
aw man my bolt popped
@@Crosewhisper lol :)
They will never stop until they find the perfect replacement for the tire.
Hahahaha! 👍
! HOVER CAR'S HERE WE COME !
! YOU CAN DO IT NICOL TELSA.
We already have hoverboard's like in back to the future mind you a little late ....well they don't hover of the ground .....I mean but they........FUCKEN DAM IT !!
👌😂👍lmfao!
That’s for sure
The perfect wheel would mine bitcoins as you drive.
It's still a valid result even if it is completely different to what everyone expected.
I'm glad they publish the failures
This is basically what I expected.
It's like the sawblade wheels that just tear things up instead of moving the car.
I think the problem is the surface area. In my opinion they have too few bolts on there and the few they have there are too far apart. I was expecting double the amount per rim.
Vlad need destructive results due to failure to claim his usual 107% success.
Video idea: make the engine run backwards (air intake through the exhaust and exhaust through the intake)
jajajajajaa, that'd be hilarious!
if they just invert the valve timings, i mean when piston goes down (1st stroke) exhaust valve will be opened and when piston is going up for exhaust (4th stroke), intake valves will be opened. I think Garage 54 is capable of doing that. That would be nice to watch though. I hope they see ur comment and do this.
@@mehmetisik7277 They could mess with the timing, but it would be more interesting if they could get the crankshaft to spin the opposite way.
@@kurtsteiner7310 all of which are nearly impossible. turn your engine the wrong way and the timing chain falls off and the oil pump wont pump for starters
@@kurtsteiner7310 i think installing the crankshaft inverse will do the trick then
Drive it at night on concrete out at the old airport, that should be spectacular, sparks flying everywhere...
agreed
You mean sparktacular
@@V12BuickguyYes Sir...I stand corrected.
There are some titanium studs on them
@@V12Buickguy Then they should do a remake of Sparktacus!
Well this experiment with bolts proved to be nuts!
I see what you did there🧠
Ikr? I couldn't wash this down!
Try grinding the bolts heads so they are more like a chisel shape.
Ah yes! Coronavirus wheels.
😂 this is gold
"Sweet COVID rims dude! Are they... Nineteens?"
Xd
For blm and antifa
Good science is when you test theories. It doesn't always get you the results you thought or wanted. It's still good science!
Keep it up, you scientists of Garage 54👨🔬👩🔬!
try these again when the snow's gone.
On public road*
9:14 "Now I guess we wait for the summer".
Always fun. For a future project, how about turning a Lada into a ekranoplan? 😊
I second the motion.
Lol I was like a what? Wyf is an ekranoplan 🤔 so I had to Google that shit 😂. I had no idea thats what thoes were called, you learn something new everyday I guess.
I'm in!
Looks like it'd aerate a yard pretty well.
Nailed it.
Ta dum tss
Screw this joke
🤣🤣🤣
They really screwed up this time. Oh well...
Nice one
I would love to be apart of this man’s workshop, this is insanely sane and I like it !!
Would be cool to see " Wire Tie" wrapped around the bolts in a tread pattern!!
Not enough surface area, unlike the nails. Supersize the number of bolts 💕👍😂
Exactly!
wheels would have to be wider for that. I'd suggest maybe welding other bolts across the tops of the existing bolts for more surface area (to keep the theme, and if there's enough clearance)
Or enought of power:):)
@@kBitre I was thinking the same but just under the heads to distribute load, then the hexagonal area would provide traction.
for when your roads dont have enough potholes for the council to come and resurface your street....garage 54, we made a machine to make potholes, you can rent our machine no problem
You might simply have needed twice the amount of bolts to increase the amount of surface area gripping into the snow
Those guys probably say “Vlad, your fucking crazy”
Vlad - “shut up, I pay you 107 rubles a week “
I suggesting to revisit this later when the snow melted! 😉
Love to see them put those wheels on the front
You Always have content I didn’t know I needed
You should try to make a custom crankshaft and camshaft so that all pistons will fire at the same time.
Yes. what could go wrong.
Just make a crankshaft with no bends perfectly straight even horizontally
Translation made possible by Microsoft Translator.
So, I think I know why all your wheels really dig into the snow.
If you look at a regular tire. when you put chains on them.
The chain digs into the snow till it hits the tire surface.
If you have huge gaps the depth of where the rubber normally would be. Like on all the chain or bolt tires you have made.
The snow is going to dig that deep until it compacts 100% but since you have openings on the outside the snow falls through there instead of compacting.
in other words. it is pulling up the snow and earth as an excavator bucket does. If you fill in an excavator bucket with rubber you take less of a bite of the earth.
If you make it solid somehow behind your surface making contact with the snow.
The less snow and earth you will tear up.
Like your bolt tire you made if it was 38mm long. You'd only dig down 38mm into the snow. Then the flat surface would support the tire you made, and you would have 38 mm of solid traction.
Перевод сделан возможным благодаря Microsoft Translator.
Так что, я думаю, я знаю, почему все ваши колеса действительно копаться в снегу.
Если вы посмотрите на обычные шины. когда вы положили цепи на них.
Цепь копается в снегу, пока не попадает на поверхность шины.
Если у вас есть огромные пробелы глубины, где резина обычно будет. Как и на все цепи или болт шины вы сделали.
Снег будет копать, что глубоко, пока он не уплотняет 100%, но так как у вас есть отверстия на внешней стороне снег падает через там, а не уплотнения.
другими словами. он тянет вверх по снегу и земле, как экскаватор ведро делает. Если вы заполните экскаватор ведро с резиной вы берете меньше укуса земли.
Если вы сделаете его твердым как-то за вашей поверхности в контактах со снегом.
Чем меньше снега и земли вы будете рвать.
Как ваш болт шины вы сделали, если он был 38 мм в длину. Вы бы только копать вниз 38 мм в снег. Тогда плоская поверхность будет поддерживать шины вы сделали, и вы бы 38 мм твердой тяги.
Great experiment!
Cant grumble at a good fail, and that was a good fail, a good fail beats a bad win anyday :-) nice job guys
I really hope you're keeping most of these inventions. I'd travel over to see the Garage 54 MUSEUM.
Did not expect such a fail!
You guys are so crazy. I love it. We could never have those kinda fun experiments in the states. Atleast not to my knowledge. Thanx for sharing Team Garage 54. Love your videos. Also A Huge Thanx for all you do BMI Russian. Have a great day & night everyone.
Why not? If you have an independent garage, you could do any of these things. Even there he didn't want to take it out onto public roads for fear of the police. It's not that different
@@caodesignworks2407 A very good question. I do not have a privite garage like Team Garage 54. Plus from what I've seen the states is really weird. Particularly Alabama.
@@-A-Hybrid-Skunk-Productions- lmao I live in Florida and I've seen people daily drive some top gear and garage54 type vehicles
@@sukmidri That is kool. I never seen anything like that that I can remember
That's crazy! I would have thought these things had unreal traction!
You guys always know how to have a wheel good time. I’ll see myself out. 😆
Wheels made from spings sounds like a more comfortable idea
grind the bold heads into spikes and try again. :D
Great result, because I would also have thought they would grip like crazy! Good experiments sometimes prove the negative
Try to make wobbly wheels like Maker's Muse did for his robot.
???
ya i guess there's a reason we don't use wheels like this. even the early metal wheels were solid round bands with traction lugs; you need something to float on softer material.
How about DIY run-flat tyres? - Mount a conventional tyre in the normal way, but fill it with as many tennis balls as you can cram in, and inflate as normal. Now, "arrange" to have a puncture in that tyre, and see how far you can drive on it before things get interesting/exciting? - Tip... Take a fire extinguisher with you, just in case!
Never been this early, keep up the good videos dudes :D
Never thought I would see a disappointing fail at garage 54. A fail sure and fun, but a boating fail nope. All things considered keep it up boys.
Good try. But, I could see it slipping before he was welding the first bolt.
Weld the heads to the wheel, that is a broader flat base for welding and stronger, will take more torque.
Drill and tap pieces of rubber from old tires and screw onto the bolts. Experiment with different sizes. Try anything you can screw onto those bolts that will give surface area and traction. If they screw on, and wear out, replacement is easier. Break a bolt, weld another. There must be huge piles of old thick tires somewhere. Can they be cut with a bandsaw, drilled with a drill, tapped with a hot threaded screw? Or just heat the bolt and screw the pieces directly onto the threaded spokes. You only need threads at the end.
Do some calculations and look on a concrete or hard surface to see how many bolts are hitting the ground at once.
Weigh the car's force on each spoked wheel, and each spoke. You might not need 100. And they might not need to be that thick. How big a round thing can fit inside the wheel well? Why do you need wheel wells anyway? Would a bigger, lighter wheel with that many studs be better in snow and ice?
Alternately, weld the heads to the wheel, weld thin metal around the outside. Take treads from old tires and screw or bolt to the all metal, spoked wheel. Inner wheel - spokes - outer metal ring -- old tire treads stuck on any way they will go on. Winter wheels, summer wheels, snow wheels, mud wheels. Three wheels, two wheels and slide, no wheels and hover.
Your three thousand nails is close, but you are stuck on repeating things. Adjust the numbers as you go. Get someone to make a spreadsheet or calculate on a piece of paper. Weld bolt heads to the wheel, weld a metal thin plate to the rim. Weld fewer and shorter heads of nails to the metal wheel. So old wheel inside, few heavy bolts for spokes, thin metal, nails for traction.
Why even use old wheels? You have them but do you need them? What is the minimum? A few holes to bolt it on? And a cylindrical place or ring to weld too? These cars are not that heavy? Do you even need all the stuff? What can you throw away and recycle? How many people in each car?
I think you are not stretching yourself. And have not clearly understood your own motives in doing this. Who are you trying to help, and why? Tires are expensive and don't work that well in snow and ice. But why carry all that car weight? Just for pretty? Bare minimum and lots of rust preventer. Think about Mars and the moon. What would they need there? Cannot carry a lot. They need ways to make things locally. They don't need stylish. Works and easy to maintain, and fits the surfaces and conditions. Things that someone can do when you can't run home for everything. I hope i have not offended you. I wish I had time to see all of these videos.
Your five flywheels was almost there. But you would have to find someone to help you with the stored energy calculations, angular momentum, torque and power modeling. Your feel for the performance and advantages in snow is good, but you can put things on paper or in computers and see them clearer, before you start buying and making models. Does the car industry in your country offer what people need? Before the electric car craze, many people were looking at flywheels. They can be fun. See who is around you in local schools or online.
Best wishes, keep up the great work!!
Richard Collins, Director, The Internet Foundation
Well! That's a good way to break the ice!👌😂👍
I love this guy
Awesome video keep doing your experiments guys
Nuts just nuts well done guys.👍🇬🇧🤘🍺
107% failure but we all love watching these guys try crazy thing, so 107% success!
👍
🦠🦗🕸🕷
@@thedude8046 same
Nyasar si abah 😂
It might make a good rototiller for the garden
Perhaps the bolts should have welded them with the heads welded to the rims so they bite in more.
Thank you for the experimentation I definitely appreciate these experimentation testing different concept trying different issue area trying different ideas I like the fact that you've using bolts Maybe by putting them closer together they seem to be too far apart it leaves too much space for the snow to go in the holes I definitely think this could potentially be helpful when it concerns ice I could probably drop of it you have some grub however maybe trying the experiment with what you have already in adding up more bolts to basically fill the holes the same way you could puncture the space is so tight maybe using the same concept however I've been watching your videos time to time and it is so cool to see these experiments done way2go garage 54 you doing experimentation which I would have done which I would have liked to do if I had my own garage thank you so much
This is awesome thanks for sharing
There is no failed experiment, only a successful way to learn how not to do something.
Revisit these wheels!
Thank you for translating your content
I would love to see the bolts work if they could be sharpened to at least a wedged point if not a rounded tip like a bullet
That wheel would make a nice clock too :)
Surprised. I guess surface area does make a big difference rather then large grips
Next video you guys should swap the brake, clutch, and accelerator pedals into different spots and see how hard it is to drive. Brake on the right, clutch in the middle, and gas on the left for instance lol. And for added fun put the shifter where the steering wheel should be and vice versa! 🤣
like in an English-car?
@@sjaakvaag I have never known any cars on the planet that have the clutch in the middle lol
It's gonna be interesting telling a mechanic the wheel bolts need replacement
Great way to chop snow up. I wonder what it does to ice. Would it break ice?
I would have thought the opposite would be true, but, like circular saw blades do, they seem to cut into the surfaces too deeply...... It is always fun to watch your videos, keep up the good work!
I need a set of those wheels to till my garden.
Remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.
Imagine Pin Head driving! Best part is he doesn't give up easily!
Top seus vidio parabéns
I would have werden on these bolts the other way round, that may give you more grip
try welding like 2"x3"x3/16" angle iron to the wheels instead, and maybe some sharp ground chisel ended bolts protruding about an inch beyond the angle, in case you go on solid ice.
You guys should make a backwards car that you sit in facing out the rear window and it drives like a regular car but backwards.
Did you check for correct tire pressure?
You might need some more weight over the back axle :)
Good for tilling a garden but not so good for snow LOL
Have you tried to use 2 torque converters as fluid coupling
What would happen if you attached short lengths of chain in place of the bolts? Attached so that the chain bits flail around the wheel.
Use one wheel to rototill a garden in the spring?
How about an expanding foam injected lada? here is what you do, you drill a hole in the intake manifold below the carb, run a pipe from the new inlet, then carefully connect it up to a source of expanding foam, run the engine hard and insert the expanding foam!
Are these wheels a direct bolt-on?
What if you weld them the other way?
Before i start, I'd bet this video is 107% success rate.
These should work on ground tough enough to not fall apart. The bolts being small and round meant it was easy for them to cut right through snow with no resistance. Then again once they cut down to the ground it was still too little surface area for them to push the larger surface area of the front wheels through snow. If it was all wheel or 4 wheel drive I think it may have moved. My guess is a firm dirt that will not fall apart too easily but will allow the bolts to sink in a bit will be ideal for these.
Apply park brake just enough that it touches the drum, so that you have less wheel spin. Thats why it moves in reverse
Once the weather warms up, you guys should try making a pair of solid wheels out of epoxy resins and seeing how long they last.
Honestly I really expected this one to work really good
Crazy Rrroooski! I think if you cut them off and turn them around, they might do it. Plus, you'll get the benefit of the bolt heads being welded down, so larger surface area and stronger connection. Hey, why not?
Uses these wheels as the front wheels, and see if that works.
Wheel looks like a CORONAVIRUS virion!
We do plenty of ice racing here in Canada... take that to a frozen lake and you'll see they will work great.
So I have a wild idea... idk how you would do it.. but can you have a car run on 4 different piston sizes? Cheers! :)
Do they sell refurbished bolts in Russia? They kind of looked like that. Pretty cool.
try this again on a flat surface, you'll notice they appear to be on a slight incline and there were no problems reversing downhill, yet they kept spinning in forwards
If you need something to get rid of packed snow, this is a money maker.
did they try spings? many small springs....
Grind some x's in the heads, and fit some paddles between bolts, perhaps starting at 20mm below heads, thinking perhaps staggered pattern with spaces, could be worth a try.
You could probably gotten further if you had started out in 2nd or 3rd gear. That would divide the torque down to almost nothing and make it hard for the wheels to spin. I've used that technique many times on snow and ice and was able to climb fairly impassable hills.
That Lada needs a few cinderblocks in the trunk for downforce, probably better results with grip
Dave them for the summer!
If you had a plate at the end of All the bolts to keep them from sinking in the snow or dirt they would work perfectly
Could weld some angle iron on the tips or something to catch traction like tractor tires but just the general idea
I had an idea maybe you can try using water bags around the rims like a waterbed for cars now I’m wondering what the free surface affect will do
We need this on concrete! I need to see some sparks and/or a bent bolt wheel dragging the car along lopsided
Whole new definition for "bolt pattern"
Cool idea. Try kitchen forks instead to get more grip?