Crown Vic Cruiser Gets A Junkyard Axle For Its Spec Panther Transformation - Part 2 - Carcass S3, E7
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- We continue work on our Ford Crown Vic Police Cruiser Spec Panther race car with a rear end swap, suspension mods, and upgraded stopping power.
0:00 - Intro
0:45 - A & AM Salvage For Junkyard Axle
3:35 - Axle Cleanup & Prep
6:17 - Axle Swap
10:20 - Brake & Spring Upgrade
14:00 - Lowering
18:35 - Exhaust Mods
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Watch Part 1: Turning An Old Crown Vic Cruiser Into A Track Panther
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L stands for “limited” not locker. It’s just limited slip diff. “ LSD”
These are the same guys who said "the proper air in your tires is listed on your sidewall" smh.
In that particular case L might mean anything but most likely it means locking since truck diff have a locking mechanism . It works with gyroscopic force and locks once a wheel starts spinning. Unlike a LSD that you might find in the rear end of a m3, they don't use clutches, rather weights and springs. They're either locked or open whereas a clutch type limited slip will limit slip more and more depending on load. I'm 99% sure that ford used the locking type since it had it as an option on f250s and 350s.
Northshore is wrong, gm gov lock lsd work that way in trucks, fords use clutch type trac lock lsd in the 8.8 cars and trucks.
L stands for Lysergic 😜
@@northshore_driftworks629 nope. It’s a crown Vic diff. Only option was a clutch style limited slip.
0:44 Loving the dump cat
Between this and Cleetus McFarland there are no Crown Vics left!
Lots of panther platforms to use, not just crown vics. Same like foxes lots of different kinds not only mustangs.
Super pumped for this weekend 😁👍👍
Nah, I've got mine. Don't forget there's the TownCar, and GrandMarquis. There's still tons of them. Now cleetus has definitely effected the amount in central Florida. But other than that there's plenty left.
Just got one yesterday! The last one the yard had... NOW there are none left xD
How can you trust a guy who doesn't even use his real name cleetus McFarland is made up BS
Limited Slip - NOT locker
I Luv it guys. I have an 03' ans a 08' P71. Both Hialeah cars (Miami). One was a squad and the 08 was a Detectives car. Great cars. The 03' I bought with 91k on it and now she has 170k just maintenance. I just finished the timing set last night. Lol. I paid $675 for the 03' from the Miami Police Auction Jan 16'. Best $675 I have ever spent. 80k miles and I beat her pretty badly. The cops didn't do to her what I've done. She was my first. You know you always remember your first Lol. It's time to restore her. I put in a complete black interior out of a 06' in her. You guys are giving me more ideas. Lol. Thanx for the content.
Never thought of putting that nut for the lower strut bolt and drive it out with a good powerful air hammer.
If you can grab parts off a mustang, might as well have grabbed the torzen lsd out of a ranger 8.8 and the 4.10s
do not think that is legal on spec panther. i believe only the factory panther trak lock is allowed
They are the same Eaton limited slip design. The Cobra mustang and other high HP vehicles can use enhanced clutches made of carbon though. Only other
major differences are the axle spline count 31 vs 28 etc...
Like always great build! The crown vic is such a awesome car that doesn't get the love it should.
I know one CZcams subscriber that uses them for demolition derby cars up to a certain years
@@Toolaholic7 Cleetus McFarland just took 40 of them to Indy this weekend.
@@bepbep7418 The Heavy Wrench loves them for demolition derby cars
@@bepbep7418 there's only 20 here.
3 Axle codes: Z5 - 327 Conventional
X5 - 327 limited slip
C6 - 355 limited slip
I prefer to read the tags on the rearends....
@@rickstorm4198 Tags come up missing over time...
Why didn’t you turn the axle like you did the others? Never assume
You should have replaced the outer axle bearings while you had it apart. Those rear ends are notorious for the axle bearings wearing out.
Nice to see the Crown Victoria's and the others getting some much needed love,most people will laugh that these cars are to heavy and not much to do on, I want that thinking for them.i will enjoy my 04 with 119.500 miles 2-wheel drive slightly "modified"😎 V8 That chirps the rear tires hitting second gear with more upgrades in the works.
The Grand Marquis get even less love and they are great cars for the money and are dependable with low miles.
My 08 P71 has 287,000 miles on it and still drives like new but both of you are correct since the last one made in 2011 they don’t get the love and attention that the deserve. Wish they would bring the panthers back and show those FPV’s whose still king of the road.
That is a police intercepter package due to the grille is black and not chrome. I am totally surprised it didn't have a limited slip. Also, I know they are going for value over looks, however, I would have swapped out the calipers all the way around. Remanned cals at Oreilly, AZ or Advance are rediculously cheap and new cals and hoses are cheap insurance for the track. I will tell you, the binders and rotors from Hawke were not cheap. You guys do great work, keep it up.
A shadetree mechanic showed me the best way ive ever seen get the bolt red hot and splash it with ice cold water ..the rapid hot to cold will brake loose anything if dont correctly..
Don't reuse that bolt though.
@@2000blackstang yea it does require new hardware but it blows my mind first time i seen it happen
You can also take a battery charger to it.... Ground one or frame and hit the positive end fir few nano seconds a couple if times. Works with stuck parking cables. caution can damage electronics including ECM if not dine correctly.
I have the 3.55s in my 2009 CVPI, great take off for a 4000lbs car.
That junkyard cat😂
He or she will meow their project saying: why are you messing with junk and not feeding or petting me?
You lowered the front too much- the lower CG is more than offset by the bad geometry
How about a Summit part number on those mufflers??
L is for limited slip not locker
I'm surprised that is not an LSD optioned P71, If I recall correctly you can get a 3.27 open diff or locker and the C6 axle being the 3.55 locker.
I don't understand why didn't you get a 355 geared rear end instead of the 327 rear end. Faster gears would have served you better.
Agreed, I like the 373's in my 5.0 Mustang, overhead cams are very sleepy off the line with the 327's, I have another 5.0 Mustang with 323's and who boy is their a world of difference in the 2 cars, the 323 car is a gen 1 5.0 and the 373 is a gen 3, the newer car is much heavier so hp gain is irrelevant, however, I can tell you, off the line those 2 are night and day
They do a lot of completely retarded things.
2:50
No, the L stands for limited for Limited Slip differential ( LSD).
Totally different.
Nice video.
Is the L for locker or maybe and just hear me out on this one, Since it for a Crown Vic Maybe it means Limited Slip?
Limited slip.
NAH. That "L" means it was made in Louisiana. If you see one with two (2) "L"s, that means it was made in Louisiana by Leprechans.
Just in time to watch thing before work 😂
where those flow tech afterburner mufflers? I know they said they got them from summit racing ? Will be interesting to hear the new exhaust
Hey guys great work as always! I plan to do the same thing to my 08 Vic, The rear springs from an 05 Mustang are they stock coil springs or are they lowering springs? I just want to make sure because I want to do the job correctly, thank you 👍
I would love to see a 1988-1990 Square Body Crown Vic Ltd upgrade done these vics are so underrated also they are not expensive to upgrade .
Good luck 👍
Limited slip is what the L stands for!
Exactly, i see so many saying locker. No... People would wreck their vehicles first damp spot they hit 😂
Too good ❤😊
The object is to heat the outer not the bolt. That only makes it bigger so you got lucky. Also if you're going to cut a spring use a bandsaw not a cutoff wheel.
Agreed, however that circumstance would not have allowed them to heat the sleeve to which the bolt was seized. It was surrounded by a rubber bushing. By heating the bolt, they were able to break the bond (rust). Then, once the bolt cooled (and shrunk), they were able to punch it out.
@@gutlass I never said that it would have worked in this situation. I just mentioned that they got lucky. Especially since physics tells us that shouldn't have worked.
Why not use a cut off wheel
@@brandonspencer7244 takes entirely too long and more control. There would also be less metal debris
@@gutlass like I typed. They got lucky. When you heat the bolt it expands. Thus defeating the purpose. These are a pain in the azz to work on. But after some thought it can be mitigated.
More!!!!!
Why not rebuild the rear end that's in the car with all Ford Motorsport parts? 🙄
Tru-Trac? That's Eaton parts...
Thought you had to use OEM parts? 😶
.....Trac-Loc is the way to go.
Eaton is the oem supplier of most if not all the domestic manufacturers.
The more you know 😉
@20:54 Was that an Ed Bassmaster reference?
3L.27
So you bought a limited slip 3.27 rear gear axle?
Out of curiousity, those that lost some power due to the Dorman intake manifold fiasco, would 3.55 to 4.10 with trac loc and a Marty tune make up for it?
Instead of cutting springs and all of the extra work , why not just go with a stock P74 suspension?
I think I blew the rear end of my 03 town car could a mustang rear end work?
I thought all CVPI's (especially later models) had the 3.27 traction-lock rears??
Sone had 3.55 limited slip also
My 2010 P7B has a 3.55 and is a non LSD.
My first 2011 P7B came with a 3.27 limited slip, the car got rear ended unfortunately.
Got another 2011 P7B and it came with a 3.27 open diff. Luckily I was able to pull the gears off my old car. Haven't installed it yet.
Most have 3.27 open. Swapping in a limited slip 3.27 pretty much did nothing at all for going around a track with sweeping turns in a car that barely makes 200hp to the tires.
The junkyard cat had more personality then the hosts...!!!
What's with the neo look
I wouldn't have expected any Panther to have a locker. Limited slip seems far more likely in a car like that.
Ford never put a locker in a production vehicle, only open diff or limited slip (Ford term is trac lock)
@@geoffneibert124 I wasn't sure. I know Chevy put lockers in some trucks, didn't know if Ford did the same but I knew a locker in a car like this wouldn't make sense.
it is
Gear ratio?
The royalty free guitar music is too loud but I’m loving this content! Been wanting to build a Vic for quite awhile.
agreed on music, too loud. I like the content.
i thought a great many cop cars already came with a posi. Mine did.
Why didn't you replace all the rear suspension bushings when you had it apart??? They all looked like crap...
building as a track car, i would delete the E brake.
Am I the only one to see the junkyard cat.
Got an LSD but no Rear End Girdle? 👌.
Yo, why you calling it a locker? lol and how come you didn't try to an axle out of a Interceptor that has 3:55 gearing?
I just did the same axle swap, I had 3.27 gears in the car , the new to me axle is 3.73, The 1st test drive I got about 100 yards and the car went into limp mode the wrench came on & the CEL, and the engine seemed like it was flooding or running on a cylinder down, Trouble codes: P0104, P0122, P0223,P2106 and P2110, P0113 and P0114. I'm on disability so I have no money to go have a tech look at it, Is there anything I May have overlooked ? ANY INFO or help is very much appreciated. I have no idea why all those codes came up, It drove & ran Excellent before the axle swap.
Usually you would change your axle ratio or something like that on a tuner or can probably have a tuning shop tune it
@@teocool1 thanks for helping me with my car problems , I appreciate it.
I was hoping I could simply reset the ecu,pcm by removing the negative cable and running a wire from the neg cable to the positive post so everything will be drained ?? Do you think that would work?
@@Tomtom62 I'm not an expert but I don't think that would do any more than just removing battery terminal, I've also never done this, just repeating something I saw somewhere. I figured you might appreciate any reply lol
Why on earth would you put a softer than stock spring on a front heavy race build?
You'd be better off cutting the spring as it will lower the car and stiffen the rear
I'd also box in those rear control arms. Makes a ton of difference on these cars and is probably within the rules?
This is why I can't enjoy shows like this, so first they check all the rear ends to see that they don't have a 'locker'(not that any Crown Vic even ever came from the factory with a 'locker',only limited slip)by turning one side and seeing if the other side turns with it.
So then they have the idea of checking data tags,and after finding one with the right numbers just tossed in the truck without seeing if the 'turn the axle thing' is any different,check the fluid inside.(if there is any),make sure that neither of the axles are bent or what the gear ratio is!....nope just trust a part that only god knows how many miles are on it and throw it in the car.
That could have been from under a taxi cab for 3 to 400,000 miles!!!
lol boy you are getting hot and angry over something I'd be willing to bet they did do off camera, but yes, they may as well have showed it.
@@SKATETOSLAYER Yeah,... but I know a lot of people don't know much about cars and try and learn them from these DIY shows and that puts them in a pickle sometimes worse than if they just did the research themselves.
The guys on TV aren't really the best mechanics. They are staffed with real mechanics behind the scenes.
Looks ugly lowering a P71 ugh
Why didn't you just replace the front springs with a set of lowered mustang springs like did with the back ones???😐😑😑
Is that a public junkyard or..........
Ive got an emaculate 01....
What a difference having a lift makes
You guys should enter that Vic. in the Freedom 500 next year. 500 mile race for mostly stock crown Vic's only. Get in touch with Cleetas McFarland at the Freedom Factory for more details.
First Dave that's not even his real name and the guy is a clown so why would some reputable CZcams channel want to talk to a bunch of clowns
@@ytgre7767 that's your opinion. Like but hole's everybody's got one why not let him decide for himself but you wouldn't be able to run yo pie hole. Hahahaha
@@ytgre7767 a clown that runs the fastest stick shift gm in the country
I'm really surprised that you're going with a dramatically lower spring rate than stock on the rear: I would have expected you to want a higher spring rate, and cutting (as you did on the rear) would have both lowered and increased spring rate. Not saying it's perfect but it's in the rules.
Pet peeve: a Panther doesn't have struts, it has shocks. Struts are fixed at the bottom (generally with a pair of cam bolts to adjust camber), shocks are pinned at the bottom.
The have a coil over style strut. It’s just not a locating Mcphearson strut like you are referring too like on a Fox
@@alanhill5513 They have a coilover shock, not a strut.
You can get a shock or strut in coilover or otherwise. Obviously there are lots of non-coilover shocks, there are also coilover shocks (such as the front here, or rear suspension on a drag car is typically that way). Most struts are coilover, but there are vehicles with torsion bars and struts - Porsche did that for a long time.
When i heard them say color change, i was like oh no. I hope it doesn't turn out like the civic.
These fools are officially a joke lol
Question. First car. Ex interceptor. Bad idea?
Yes and no. Con's: You will spin out when wet or if you have bad tires. You will back into things you can't see without a camera. The windows will stop working randomly. Oil in spark plug tube problem, Intake manifold cracks, etc etc.
Pro's: All the POWAH AND AUTHORITAH!!!!!!
When you are "looking " for the axle, you have already attach the rope to what are you need, miracle
Isnt LSD a drug?
Limited Slip Differential.
Shitty welds on that pipe
The biggest problem that I know for a fact exists with those cars is there extremely heavy I have watched highway patrol and police car spin around in circles trying to make turns at high speeds...... I would gut the living crap out of that thing.
Not really. They are pretty planted cars.
Why would you want to put a locker in a road race car? You want a differential that works linearly, not on or off. A limited slip rear dif would be a better choice for the road track. Lockers should stay on trucks and drag cars.
What they put in was actually a limited slip, these cars never came with one that was fully locked.
I can't believe they didn't even start it up 👎
Using Mustang rear springs on a Crown Victoria this sounds stupider than a box of rocks
many better ways to lower a crown vic the cutting the springs and guessing a rear spring
Mediocre.👎
Town car brakes and rotors are better
Is it just me or was anybody else cringing when he dangled the front calipers by their stock hoses...
Lol damn, every comment is talking shit. I will say, those rotors practically jumped off of the car. That has not been my experience.
Put a softer spring under the car instead of just cutting the OEM. Just completely remove what makes the P71 great in the first place. 🤡🤡🤡🤡
🤓👍✌️👌🖖😎
👍👍🇺🇲 Lgb
another junk build
The music has inspired me to delete this channel.
Peace