Why GPX is the Working Man's Dirt Bike (and why you should buy one)
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- In this video I lay out why a GPX dirt bike should be on your radar for your next dirt bike.
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This was a fantastic review. I don’t need a endure bike but now I want a GPX. I love when I find a product that does everything a more expensive product can do, sometimes even better. Thanks for you time and effort in making this video.
Thanks man! Yeah it's one thing to make a POS bike, but it's a win to have a good price and a great bike! Thanks again!
You are in the wrong business my friend! Best commercial for a dirt bike I’ve ever seen! Love seeing Chad’s bike flip in the intro too!
Ha ha thanks buddy! Yeah that was epic when that happened!
Well that is actually what he is trying to do here.
Found your channel on Thursday. Put the kx450f on craigslist on Friday. Sold it on Saturday. Going to put in an order for a fse300r tomorrow.
Crap, Gary needs to start giving me commission on these lol! I think you'll love the 300! Just locktite the crap out of it and set her up right. I think that 300 engine is just what a dirt bike engine should be!
Just put money down on a FSE 300R because of you!!! Can’t wait to get it!! Keep the content coming! Thanks
Good video! Been skeptical about GPX but your video really helps bring confidence to this brand in my mind.
Thanks! That's why I made it as I was in the same boat. I wouldn't want to buy a throw away bike either
Very skeptical of this review. I live in Thailand and there are a few older 50 125 150 250 dirt bikes floating around, they're definitely not good quality their unreliable piles of junk. As I said they are old bikes so the new ones may be very different given they are trying to compete with Japanese and nipper the heels of KTM and Husky. The other reason I'm sceptical use it's a very professional and positive review, it's more like an advertisment not a review. Reviews list the pros and cons. I said my judgement do they been in the wild for a couple years and serious riders have written about them.
Bro this is great.
Thanks man!
Very good video. I agree 100% with LCARS ADV. I stoped enduro back in the 2012 (from 1990 that I started) due to economical crisis to my country. I wish that bike came to Greece so I can re-start now at 53 years of age just for the fun of enduro ridind that I have missed so much.
GPX just landed in Britain so maybe you'll see them soon. You're from Greece? I hope you have seen all my Naxos Greece videos as I was there in your beautiful country in 2019. I miss it so much and I loved the people and food, and the riding in Naxos was the best ride of my life! Check them out!
Very nice explain professional video .
I would love to ride those trails.
If you're in the NE come one and ride them in a couple weeks!
"Old School Honda XR Lover" dude; that's ME! Great entertaining edit and some great trail videos as well. Where do you film your riding?
That’s me too! Thanks man! I film mostly in western ny, but I go to Utah to ride often
You are a hell of a sales rep and GPX has zeroed in on some huge holes in the market and has provided a heck of a value proposition. Very tempted here.
Ha ha yeah I guess so, the pay sucks though! Yeah they really are good bikes. They are reliable, and are just great bikes all around, plus they offer different options like 2 stroke, 4 stroke, air cooled, liquid cooled etc which is cool. They back up their product too. I wouldn’t have bought a third one if I didn’t like them or the company didn’t have good customer service.
Great video, advice and that ride looks like heaven. I definitely have GPX on my radar, but I live out of country and would have to find out how much it would cost to ship.
I would definitely reach out to Gary and ask, jus give him a call, he might have options for you! Thanks BTW!
@@LCARSADV I will, again. I'm pretty sure I sent them an email and they told me that would do it, if it was possible... just have to work out the import tax/fee's/delivery stuff. Thanks, again!
Geez! This video is so tasty and well done Gary should give you a bike. Judging by the comments it will likely help sell more than a few new bikes.
Thanks, I really want a 450r, so if you could convince him I would appreciate it lol! ThNks for the compliments!
Hello LCARS ADV, I am a rider of KLX but since i sow your video really interest and I do planne to buy the GPX 250 2strok but still need te information about it, have you recommend me to buy that?
Hey man! The 250 two stroke is a really amazing bike! I have tons of videos on it if you want to watch more. If you have a specific question to ask, then ask away!
In terms of maintenance these 4t bikes such as 300 and 450 are they more like exc every 15 hrs oil change or more like something like smr/te 510 every 500 or so miles oil change?
I believe it’s 2500 miles, but obviously if you ride hard I would do it sooner
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EXCELLENT video!! I sold a 2017 YZ450FX and a 2014 RMZ450 to buy my 2021.5 FSE300R and FSE250E. I've never looked back. I'm thoroughly impressed with both bikes. The 300R is a tractor! The 250E isn't far behind it. That little air cooled engine has the torque to lift the front tire easily. I'm hoping GPX will make a two stroke 300 next year, but I'm planning on buying a TSE either way. BTW, I've asked Santa for Hero 9 Black. I'll probably have a bunch of questions for you. If I start a channel it will simply be riding dirt bikes and sleds with music.
I kind of want the 250e myself, I would like to maybe try to get my wife into riding, but I've always like the simple air cooled engines. Yeah I like my Hero 9 so far, but I haven't had much ride time with it unfortunately as it's getting cold and miserable here. Thanks man!
@@LCARSADV I bought the 250E for my wife, but our son has ridden it more than she has. He's 22 years old and had never really ridden before. He loves it. He'll be joining the Army soon so she'll have her bike back before spring. We've been having warmer than usual temps and no snow yet..... it's killing me! I'm ready for some two stroke 800cc power! RMK Assault 155" ROCKET!
@@fredbunkley5604 Lol maybe have your wife talk to mine!
@@LCARSADV Hahaha! I hear ya! Show her Everide's video about riding in Hawaii. That kinda did it for my wife. It's not recommend, but my wife watches Romaniacs with me also. I promised we'd go there one day (Sibiu, Romania.... we've been to Hawaii). Who knows, maybe watching Graham Jarvis helped her get motivated to learn how to ride....LOL
@@fredbunkley5604 she sounds like a keeper!
if only one thing differentiates gpx from other brands, it's their iterative approach to improving their bikes that directly involves feedback from riders.
Yeah it actually makes me more loyal to the brand because of it.
200lb rider coming from a XR600
Should I do 250cc for the 15lb weight save or 450cc for the power? For trail riding and singletrack use.
Personally I think the 450 or any 450 is a little much for single track. 200lbs isn't that much man lol. For single track I would do the TSE or the fse250e or even the 300, but I can tell right off the bat that the 250e will be better for it
This is by far the best GPX video to date on CZcams. Thank you for the great information! I’m still trying to decide if I’m tall enough for a 250E or 250s. (I’m only 5’7”)
I’m 5’9” and my toes are on the ground but not flat feet if that helps, perhaps the 250s with full size wheels? Thanks btw!
GPX does sell a 1” lowering link, also there are suspension shops who will work/lower these suspensions
Love all the Star Trek references , I am 41 and grew up with Star Trek , and I live in Southern Utah and have been on these trails on my DRZ 400 ... looking to get that bike sold and a major upgrade . Do you know how much the 300 makes for HP , same with the 450 Hp ?
Thanks! Man I hope you get to ride with everide sometime if you live there, its an amazing time! From the factory they say 31 and 44HP
@@LCARSADV He is cool as well we all should go sometime !
Went really cheap and got an Orion rxb in February 2020. It was fun putting it together and nut and bolting everything together with locktight to get it ready for the trails. I probably put another 1k into the bike to get it where it needed to be. If the GPX is available next spring I'll be getting the 450r.
I bought a Hawk 250 a couple years ago for a $1000 delivered! It was fun to put together and it was a decent basic trail bike for what it was. I think it had the same engine as your orion, it's a Honda clone engine I believe.
@@LCARSADV it's really close to a crf230 engine.
@LCARSADV the newer RXB250L uses the same motor as the GPX FSE 250e, which is called the ZS172FMM, it's also shared with the Templar 250 and Kayo K4
You will have to lock tite every nut and bolt on the GPX as well!
Where do you get these bikes worked on at? The name brand dealership near me said they won’t touch it.
I suppose any GPX dealer, or shop that isn't a bunch of girls and can work an engine. They are engines just like any other. I work on my own and I would find it a rare situation to have someone else do work on a dirt bike for me as tinkering and fixing dirt bikes kinda comes with the territory of riding them. Honestly if you aren't capable of doing minor repairs, I wouldn't buy anything but a Honda lol, but any and every other bike brand will need work done at some point, but GPX engine issues are virtually non existent, the only parts that break are ones you break on the trail from normal riding. I beat the shit out of mine and many others do too, reliability isn't an issue, but you shouldn't be afraid to work on a small engine either.
What brand mirror is that? It folds up for off road?
Double take mirror. Best mirror you can get!
Which come close to a Freeride like model? FSE250S with full size wheels?
I’ve never ridden a free ride so I wouldn’t know sorry:(
Good job
Thanks man!
my issue is resale. You pay less at first purchase but I can't see getting more than 2 k after 3 to 4 years. So losing about 4k. And that's what you'd lose on a new Husky . So if you could come up with the price of a Husky I think I'd go that way. But the Gpx does look like a great machine
I have had 3 GPX bikes and sold 2 of them. Resale on both were incredibly good to my surprise. I almost got what I paid for got my fse300 and my 19’ tse 250 I got a lot more that I thought I would for a “prototype” year bike. So to answer your post, resale in my personal experience has been great!
Can any of these be registered for Dual Sport in Texas?
I would hit the GPX FB with that specific question, but I have 2 bikes registered in communist New York if that helps. You could always go the Vermont/SD route if Texas had an issue
I bought the FSE 300 2021.5 so far it's a really solid bike. I only have 3 hours though. It runs a little lean but the Delphi EFI systems need to learn. Also some are say putting in the exhaust insert will richen the bike. Can any owner confirm this. The bike has an oxygen sensor so change exhaust flow characteristic could possibly do this. I hope they come out with a tuner or race chip.
So all 4 strokes now days are lean. They’ve had some issues with dirty fuel injectors from the factory and that makes it really lean. You’ll be able to tell if your pipe is glowing hot. Really easy job, but take the injector out and clean it. I have a video on that if you look. If you do use the exhaust insert I would drill some more holes in the insert as recommended by GPX.
@@LCARSADV I need more time on it only 3 hours so far. If I do use it I did plan on drilling holes from end to end.
Where gpx 250 fuse from??.where stores,etc????????.what is engine name?????????
Where would you say the 300 makes it’s power? Trying to decide between the 300 and the 450. I’ve had a husqvarna 310 and always felt it need a bit more down low.
I've never felt the 300 needed more power down low, it has gobs of torque down low. I feel it makes most of its power from low to mid range although it pulls in all gears. Get the 300 if you want to be lighter and do tight single track and woods, get the 450 if you plan on dual sporting it or have more open trails.
@@LCARSADV the thing is I do both! I wish there was a demo where you could ride all the bikes. Seems like there’s maybe 20lbs weight difference between the 2. I wonder if it’s really that noticeable? After riding my 300lbs DR350 bored out to 440 in the woods yesterday. I realized I’d prefer something lighter but about the same power and better ergonomics.
Who makes 300cc 2-stroke Chinese bikes? I think I saw one on CZcams but can’t remember the company.
I’m not sure. I know GPX is testing their own 300cc fuel injected 2 stroke themselves right now.
@Jack Spratt those are low powered 250cc Honda clone engine bikes. I had one a whole ago, they are ok for really light stuff and commuting, but they aren’t any good off road and they are super cheap Chinese parts
I would and a thousand more would buy tomorrow but GPX dont seem to ship to U.K. so so sad.
I think they need a European distributor
Your video is very promising to watch, who knows if I could become a dealer or ambassador for GPX in central america, I'm sure everyone will love it.
Thanks! People just need a good dirt bike that doesn’t cost an arm and a leg!
Nice video! You should be on GPX's payroll! (Assuming you are not on their payroll.)
Lol if I could get paid to ride and sell dirt bikes I would! Thanks man!
@@LCARSADV, I mean, you made an awesome video advertising and providing great information on GPX. You should be their marketing team!
Im looking on stepping up to a 450, who sells these in the desert southwest?
Not sure, but check the GPX website for a list of dealers. They are located in salt lake if you are near there, but I’ve ordered all 3 of mine straight from GPX and had them shipped to me
@@LCARSADV did you get a 450?
@@170bcuda no, tse, fse300r, and fse250e
do they have any street legal models?
I’ve plated all 4 of mine in New York, so yes
It would be cool to see gpx try and get into the motocross market, where you can upgrade parts as much as any other bike such as an exhaust or clutch, i dont ride trail as much as moto and the 450 just doesnt seem as powerful as a 450 should be, it seems more like a 250 more than anything, and i get it, its FOR the trails, but they could at least give it the power a 450 should have, my dads 2006 crf450 makes around 54 or so hp, so if your able to do some things to push as much horsepower outta the bike as possible, let me know because gpx honestly seems like what i need in a bike, just lacking in the power department
The 450 has 44Hp which is plenty for any enduro or trail riding. I doubt they'll make a motocross bike as you would have to change the suspension and gearbox with little payoff for the effort. I have the 300 and it never bats an eye at any hill climb it just rips up them! The 450 engine is a fantastic engine, but for enduro, not motocross. Did you test one yet?
@@LCARSADV no i have not tested one as im not 18 and cant get one, i would like to see if ktm or husky parts would fit on the bike since they are so similar, so if I were to get a gpx tse 250, fse 300, or a fse 450, i would put some type of suspension thats a little stiffer cause i am tall so i sit a little further back on the bike and have shock troubles, so if 450 parts fit i would put them on, such as a pro circuit pipes or ohlins suspension or a hinson clutch to make it more of a mellow motocrosser and a nice trail bike
Some ktm husky parts do fit but not engine stuff. You can buy wp forks for a husky and they are the same. I bought wp forks for mine.
@@LCARSADV good to know if I ever buy one, thanks!
can these bikes be registered in California
Can anything be registered in California? Lol. I dunno, mine are street legal in NY. I would post that question in the GPX fb group.
Do any come street legal, with a title from the factory?
The FSE250E and up come with LED headlights, tail lights, turn signals, brake light, and controls. Depending on the state, one will need a horn and DOT tires to be street legal.
MSO states “motorcycle”
is the GPX the exact same as a thumpstar
No, GPX is not to be compared with any other chinese brand. Maybe some others use similar engines, but that's where it ends. Other bikes have cheaper parts, cheaper suspension, cheaper everything. The GPX bikes are spec'd out to be quality.
Not too worried about copyright infringement?
for what? It’s all fair use
I have to argue that a used KTM will cost the same and parts from Rockymountainatv come the next day. GPX is a copy of a KTM down to the filter cage (two stroke).
I'm afraid your wrong (mostly) lol. Its similar to a Husqvarna frame and now there are some ktm style plastics. That's it. The engine is not a copy of anything as the 4 stroke engines are proprietary. The 2 stroke engine is a yamaha literally, as they bought the design and tool line. They currently are designing their own 300 two stroke FI. So again, they somewhat a copy of the husqvarna frame but not the same. I actually like that the plastics are the same so I can order different brands. As for parts, I can order from both RMATVMC or GPX and have parts in 2 days. So your information is completely based on assumption. I would try one out first and then form an opinion.
Can any of these bikes be street legal?
Yes my tse and fse are street legal in NY. The MSO states "motorcycle" Some states are a little different than others, but for the most part yes. If you have a weird state then the Vermont route is always there
They need to make a a super moto version of the fse 450 without having to buy the super moto wheels separate it would destroy drz 400 SM sales cheaper and better in almost every way power fuel injection supsension weight
I agree! You should make a suggestion to Gary, but at least the option exists.
You can always buy warp9 sumo wheels (or other brand wheels) 3.5 front and 4.25/4.50 rear with 120/70 front and 150/60 or something like that for the rear and you always have off-road set of wheels and suspension is gonna be softer so it's gonna be more comfy
@@meddis4647 yeah I know it's just an extra 1000 when they could just have an option for super moto so you can save money
The KDX 220 engine is superior to the TSE 250. The KDX handles very well and weighs just 223 lbs! You can find a very nice used KDX for 3k! And there are plenty of nice used KTM 300 XC-Ws out there! The TSE 250 is slow. Some says its more confidence inspiring to ride over other bikes. Well when you have a bike that lacks power of course there is no intimidation factor hence more confidence.......
I’d take the better frame and suspension over the kdx engine. It’s enduro and trails riding, you’re not on the pipe all the time. I’ve ridden a kdx, it’s a great bike, but I’d take the newer GPX over it any day. Plus I wouldn’t want a used Xc or kdx, someone else beat the crap out of it and eventually you have to worry about parts. The GPX tse250r may be “slower” than the kdx, but it’s just as capable and a newer design.
Well at least someone is trying to get a motorcycle that the working class can ride. But in your video you make it out to be a lesser motorcycle then the big names. And in that you are missing one point about the working class. We are tired of pay to win things. That is the reason pay to win videos are not well excepted in the US. We know we can out ride the wealthy that can afford the best because we aren't afraid of pain. Plus we like taking risks to take our minds off the mondain's of our world. Working class was the one out there in the beginning of this dirt bike craze. We would cobble together a 2 stroke from parts and get out there and tear up the riding places. I watched a video of a pro rider going up a vertical wall the other day and remembered we were doing that back in the 70's. But good video.
Thanks man! All great points, and we need more working class people to get into dirt bikes, but the elites are taking away all the land which makes it harder for people to get into the sport even more
@@LCARSADV I agree, I think young people getting into riding would be something that might change these defective kids that are being raised. As far as land. I live in Texas and there are several place to ride for $20 to 30 for an all day pass. I'm 67 years old and just got 2 more new bikes. Both from China. going to go out and ride them as soon as I can and make video myself. But it's good that you are pushing for the working class to buy these bikes, because it is at least 60% rider and 40% bike that makes the bike.
In canada they sell gp450 not gpx???????????????
I’m not sure if GPX has a distributor in Canada, I would go to their website and call and ask and they can get you in the right direction
Not sure where the working man's bike comes in. I will say the GPX and SSR are ok bikes for beginners/ casual riders but its still cheaper to find a Japanese bike on the classifieds and restore it. Found my yz 450 for 1500 put a rebuild in, redid my suspension, bearings ect and it was still cheaper than one of these. In a couple years the Japanese trail lines (x/fx/,rx ect) will be all over marketplace classifieds and you will get a pretty much up to date machine for the same price or less than the cost of one of these. The idea of the price tag on this is just to say I have something "brand new" even though its technology that's a decade plus old. I rode an SSR and I was surprised. Solid little bike. Kind of a slug in the power department but was a decent bike to ride on the non technical trails. We took a Chinese bike on the technical trails and the back suspension was blown by the end of the day. I think another 5 years or so there will be a common chinese bike to see at the tracks and trails. They seem to be going in the right direction.
Have you ridden one? GPX and SSR are night and day different. GPX frame is a modern frame based on a husqvarna design which is one of the best frames around and as modern as you get. The suspension on GPX bikes is better than most japanese stock suspension. The parts are better and a higher quality grade than SSR. So I would ride one and then pass judgement instead of assuming it's even close to the same as an SSR. I know people who race GPX bikes as they more than capable from beginner to advanced because they are enduro bikes. Go ride one, and if you still come to the same conclusion, then at least it counts as an honest review.
@@LCARSADV reason why I related to the SSR is because its also a widely accepted higher quality chinese bike. I have yet to see a GPX available but I would happily try it if I was given the chance. I ride an 08yz450 so either way these bikes won't offer me anything I haven't seen before. The SSR is a good beginner bike. And I would say this one would be a good casual bike.
The suspension is high quality sure but any suspension will perform well when you are doing 25 to 30 kms on a trail. Show me an actual test to compare suspension with a Japanese bike. I think you did a very good job show casing the bike but that doesn't change the fact the entire premise of this video is about initial cost of buying the bike. You can get an up to date bike that's 10x more reliable and capable in all aspects for half the price if you are concerned about being affordable. You could get a KTM or Husky for the same price.
The only draw to the big bore idea of this bike is simply that. People like 2021 and 450 in the same line. Even though the 2021 is running 20 year old technology and the 450 puts put less power than 30 year old bikes.
I will stand by it. Im not one of those people who thinks you need the latest and greatest to have fun riding. Ride what you like and want works for you. This bike is promising for Chinese quality. So is the SSR. But having 2021 in your title isn't worth skipping the older tried and true if you are looking for a cost effective way to start up. In one of your other comments you said to lock tight the crap out of the bike. That's enough said about the quality compared to Japanese.
@@trevor866 all valid questions. However I would ride one before making a judgement call. I can’t comment on a cr250 when I’ve never ridden one. But I can comment on bikes I’ve ridden. Plus like I said, the SSR is not even remotely the same other than coming from China. The reason I said locktite the crap out of it is because you are putting the bike together from a crate. The engine and main components are fine. You could also buy the bike from a dealer and that setup process would already be done. Good points and enjoy the trails!
@@LCARSADV fair enough. You to. Waiting patiently for the weather to clear up so I can start my season 👊
@@trevor866 oh my gosh! Yes! However I am going to Utah to ride in a week!
As much as I want to like GPX, it seems they have bumped up their price since the making of this video... In the video here it shows that the FSE 300r is $4,999... Now, it's $5,999... What the hell.
Also, the fse 250e: $3,699 for a 2021.5 but for the 2022 it's $4,399!!!
Yeah I hear ya, but it's in line with everything else these days with inflation and stuff. His shipping prices tripled! I know he held off a price increase for a while. The bikes are still worth it in my opinion, they may not be an absolute bargain like they used to be, but I think they've earned a good reputation at this point with kick ass bikes that no one else offers. I think they found their niche in the market.
@@LCARSADV i understand what you're saying, I just hope they don't eventually turn into what they were originally meant to compete against. It just makes it that much harder to pull the trigger when wanting to buy one.
Regardless, I love the videos man, each one makes me want one more and more.
@@renski8976 that’s what I’m worried about. If they sell enough the demand goes up and so does the price. At that point you’re better off with a Yamaha or Honda. It’s a little more but you know you’re getting a solid bike that will last. Japanese makes sense for most people because a lot aren’t mechanically inclined and even the ones that are somewhat don’t have that much experience
I've heard a lotof horrostories about getting a chinese bike titled and plated. How is GPXabout that
Understandable, I once had a hawk 250 and had the same questions. GPX bikes break the typical Chinese stereotype mold. They actually are good quality all throughout. Plus the bikes actually perform! Most people have no problem plating their bikes, I have two plated in New York. Some states might differ, but worst case scenario you can always go the Vermont or South Dakota route. Check out the GPX Facebook group and ask for your state.
@@LCARSADV what are the Vermont or SD route?
@@HobbitHomes263 you register in those states as they allow out of state people to register
@@LCARSADV yes but in my state, driving with a MT DL and out of state plates you get a ticket.
Getting one for the Uk makes it expensive
I’m not sure why there isn’t a distributor in Europe? I would figure there would be a demand for these bikes there
There is now a UK distribution company for these bikes now.
@@iangriffiths9930 yes and with import duty etc it’s getting up there on price
Hey LCARS ADV,
Sorry I kinda copied your video title, but Dude if it bothered you, why not just say so in my comments or on my Facebook...and not post crap on the GPX group...I am Willing to change the title if your sore about it...I totally was unaware of this video and besides your video is of a off road bike and mine is of a MX bike.
No dude it’s ok! I meant it as a joke as flattery almost because it’s a good way to convey that idea that these bikes are bikes that normal people can afford. I didn’t post it in your comments because I didn’t want other people on your channel to think you did something nefarious. It’s all good man, don’t change it, sorry about the post, I really wasn’t pisser about it, and I will delete it.
@@LCARSADV Thanks for responding...I watch your videos and like them. Even went back and watched that one..good stuff...and I always praise Gary for his customer service. The GPX Bikes are Great and this Kayo is on par with them, as purely Motocross Bike and they make an offroad EFI on par.
@@Dirt_Bike_Dave thanks man, really sorry about all that! Yeah I’m glad we all have so many options these days!
300r only has 28HP the Trail Master (KTM Clone) TM38 has 31 HP.
You're comparing a gpx to a non-name chinese brand with no dirt cred. GPX is proven and everything else on the bike would be better including suspension, EFI, rims, brakes, etc etc. If Trailmaster isn't lying about the HP, the GPX is still superior and proven in every way. Plus you actually have factory support from GPX. Who knows, maybe trailmaster will be proven over time...
I can't believe in 2021 people still consciously make the decision go contribute directly to the Chinese economy.
And where was the phone or computer that you typed that on made?
@@LCARSADV , "Metric Honda" may not have a choice in where his computer is made. That itself should be scary enough, but at least he can choose to not buy Commie bikes.
just watch it for the second time and it's definitely paid advertising, not a review. Can the author tell us your name and what you do?
Lol I wish. I do hvac for a living. Just because I can operate video editing software that makes me a paid advertiser?
If you turn the background music off we would probably be able to hear you speak
Your welcome for the free content which I spent hours to make so you could find it on youtube.
Lol I’m sorry but gpx ain’t quality. I’ve seen engines blow. Pegs snap off. And forks bend from little bumps. Plus I don’t like the idea where 90% of the bike has been cloned (poorly) from the ktm. You want a decent cheap but quality bike? Go for the swm. Cost a little more then gpx but has just as good parts as all other European motorcycles
Is that documented somewhere in the Facebook group or online somewhere? Not that it’s not possible, but I haven’t seen or heard anything like that from anyone. I beat the crap out of mine and it just keeps going. My friend Chad has a 2019 and he has done ungodly things to his engine and it just won’t die. I just haven’t seen what you’re describing from anyone else.
I always roll my eyes at the people who say these are "cheap" Chinese bikes and equate them to ones you can buy on Amazon. 🤣
You know it's weird, I haven't seen any of those trolls in the FB group? Yeah certainly many of the china bikes deserve that stereotype, but GPX is different, and I don't know of any other bikes from china that are on par
Those same guys only buy Dewalt, Makita and Milwaukee... because 'Murica. Too dense to realize all those feel good brands are made in China, Vietnam and occasionally Europe.
@@TheRoadhammer379no… we stick to Yamaha, KTM, Beta, etc.
Brands known for quality and reliability. Not some Chinese garbage that rips off KTM and Yamaha.
My friend bought on. Worst bike ever. He made to distributor take it back.
In what way?
It’s not a Yamaha motor , it is the same design but dose not have a coating on the cylinder bore . Not as quick , I’ve owed both back to back 😎I had a wr200 . Serious, not even close . They have great dealer backup . Easy to get parts cheap 😎
What China did to us with tools now starting with motorcycles. In 20 or so years we'll reminisce about how Japanese bikes were better but yeah these are cheap. No thanks. This is what China does. They're a rotten country and I do what I can not to participate in their takeover. Do I buy their stuff if I have no choice..yes. A dirtbike doesn't qualify. Also consider that you can buy tanks, racks, windshields, guards etc etc from dozens of makers for a Drz, klr, wr, xr and make it what you want. Yes I still look for 6th on my Drz and its heavy, but its not holding me or 98% of anyone back. I could keep it running off used Ebay parts for 100 years no doubt. And at some point Suzuki is going to update it and the FI model will be the best seller in 2050....if we are still making gasoline. Ranty I know and Im not judging those that bought them, just making a point. There's a lot that goes into being a reputable manufacturer. It takes years of learning and growing at the right pace so you can weather storms and still remain afterward. One big lawsuit or issue and GPX woukd close up. Honda, Suzuki etc close and the world has likely ended. Having said all that if it was anything but Chinese Id give it a shot.
@igot2wheelissues Relax fella. Go buy 3 of them. Just not for me. I don't want to have the issues involved with an "off brand".. Funny how KTM is lije Jesus Christ. They have deals and all that. So what? Fair amount of complaints about KTM breaking parts. In any case a factory can build to many different specs for various customers. Enjoy. I didn't criticize anyone who bought them and I gave reasons why not for me. You act a bit like someone with a full diaper over such. Not a reciprocal response.
@igot2wheelissues Your right. And I am probably bitter and holding on to the past. Things are what they are and I think they will continue to change at an even faster rate. I think its entirely possible these bikes might exceed anyone's expectations. I once bought a stripped down Subaru Outback just to run between jobs and drop stuff off. 200k miles later I loved that thing and hated to see it go. It was unstoppable and cheap to keep. My point with China is just that they weaken the competition selling at a loss for a while and then dial back what your getting for the money. At that point you don't have any alternative. They are ruthless and conduct themselves in a way we can't conceiver of. I just try to put up somewhat of a fight and know it's a waste. Hell, I am 48 and probably can't ride for crap anyway. My DRZ will be the last bike I really ever need. Besides all that I hope you have fun and it lasts a very long time. That's the point of it all. Good point about being able to let people hop on without having a knot in your stomach. Would be nice to have an extra to let people come along with you. That's what's in short supply - new riders.
2 minutes til you finally get to content, kind of annoying
Free content, no one's forcing you to watch it. The videos like that take a lot of time and effort on my part to bring free content to people to help them out.
Especially with this virus going on, who wants to ride a Chinese bike anyway ?? The market ain’t as big as the Japanese bikes, this lousy company needs to get a grip and make their own bikes. Plus they don’t race them.
Better off buying a used Japanese bike.
What makes you say that? Have you ridden a GPX?
DUAL SPORT! not enduro
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Junk
Do you have one?
It’s a blatant rip-off of KTM with a wannabe Yamaha motor. Cmon now.
It’s a cheap Chinese bike. There’s a reason nobody is racing these. There’s a reason nobody is selling these. There’s a reason China has never sold a good bike. Name one…
How much were you paid for this ad?
You are ignorant and don’t know what you’re talking about, because you’ve never even seen one lol. They race plenty of these and no it’s not a rip off, they have the rights. All your ktm parts are made in china too buddy in the same factories. The video was meant to help inform people, and you contribute nothing to any brand by shitting on them. Ride one first before sounding like an f ing uninformed idiot.
Please share Facebook group link gpx?
facebook.com/groups/425498251229437