Brings back memories of my time as a footplate man at Kings Cross from 1960 - 1973. I had the honour and pleasure of driving many of these fabulous locomotives.
I like locomotives, a steam engine is not really a train, but yes I love steam locomotives everyone is different, they all behave & run in their own way.
Even though I'm from America, I still have a great deal of appreciation for these living and breathing pieces of history. I wish we were half as good at keeping them around as you folks in the UK are. I wish I could come over and shake your hands for saving them and then volunteer on them, but I probably won't be allowed to
I think the UK rail industry and those who work for the Government owned infrastructure company Network Rail are more sympathetic to steam traction and do what they can nowadays so I would hope you could volunteer with a heritage rail society.
Knowing me, being the nostalgic sap I am, I’d probably start at the Bluebell, since that was the first one I was introduced to through obvious sources.
I can remember being on Doncaster station many times back in the middle to late 1950s trainspotting and there was no finer sight than to see a `streak` A4 Pacific thundering through the station albeit not at full speed because of the restrictions through the station but still going fast enough to captivate you, add to that the powerful A2s with such names as A H Peppercorn , Hornets Beauty and Blue Peter etc, yeh the 50s and early 60s was a good time to see some of BRs best and greatest locos, I was even lucky enough to see Batchelors Button coming out Doncaster works in pristine condition and at the time was shedded at 64b Haymarket, now that was a sight to see, thanks for the splendid video, it brings back great memories.
At 20:29 there was a shot in a cutting of the small and large Atlantics that were used on the Plant Centenarian...but I could not see any headboard. I believe that the large GN Atlantic did not steam well as the blastpipe was misaligned with the funnel. The pair were quickly taken away after the run as was the last Atlantic in BR livery about the same time. Management seemed to be very wary of having GN Atlantics on show at the time.
At the end when the narrator said Thompson hated all things gresley, ooh boy that just makes me mad. I swear Thompson was just out to destroy the image of the LNER
I wanted to know why don’t they dig a tunnel and do an extension for the main line Train so they extend the unused abandoned underground stations. Why couldn’t they use the part D78 Stock train doors on the sides and also restructure the front face of the A60 and A62 stock and remix and make them all together and also redesign them overhead line and also make them into 5 cars per unit and also having 2 Disabled Toilets on those 5 cars per unit A60 and A62 stock trains and also convert the A60 and A62 stock trains into a Scania N112, Volvo TD102KF, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Engines and also put the Loud 7-Speed Voith Gearboxes in the A60 and A62 stock and also modernise the A60 and A62 stock and make it into a 11 car per unit so it could have less doors, more tables, computers and mobile phone chargers. A Stock Trains and also having 8 Disabled Toilets on those A stock trains. why couldn’t we refurbish and modernise the waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel and make it more bigger and extend it to bank station, making it into a Triple-Track Railway Line so those 4 European countries such as Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden to convert the waterloo and city line Triple-Track Train tunnel into an High Speed train. The Third Euro tunnel Triple-Track Train line to make it 8 times better for passengers so they could go from A to B. then put the modernised 11 car per unit A Stock and put them on a bigger modernised waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel so it could go to bank station to those 4 European countries such as Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. The modernised refurbish 11 cars per unit A stock could be a High Speed The Third Triple-Track Euro Tunnel Train So it is promising and 37 times a lot more possible to do this kind of project that is OK for London Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. oh by the way, could they also tunnel the Triple-Track Railway Line so it will stop from Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex so that the Passengers will go to Germany, Italy, Poland and Sweden and also extend the Triple-Track Railway Line from Bank to Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex Stations so that more people from there could go to Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden Easily. Why couldn't they extend the Piccadilly line and also build a brand-new underground train stations so it could go even further right up to Clapton, Wood Street and also make another brand new tunnel train stations in Chingford and could they extend the DLR. All of the classes 150, 155, 154, 117, 114, 105, 106, will be replaced by all of the Scania N112, Volvo TD102KF, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel five carriages to disabled toilets are air conditioning trains including Highams Park for extend doing roots which is the Piccadilly line and the DLR trains. Could you also convert all of the 1973 stock trains into an air-conditioned maximum speed 78 km/hours (48 MPH) re-refurbished and make it into a 8 cars per unit if that will be alright, and also extend all of the Piccadilly train stations to make more space for all of the extended 8 car per unit 1973 stock air condition trains and can you also build another Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive Companies and they can order Every 17 Octagon and Hexagon shape LNER diagram and unique small no.11 Boilers from those Countries such as Greece, Italy, Poland, and Sweden, can they make Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive speeds by up to 117MPH so you can try and test it on the Original Mainline so it will be much more safer for the Passengers to enjoy the 117MPH speed Limit only for HS2 and Channel Tunnel mainline services, if they needed 16 Carriages Per units can they use those class 55’s, class 44’s and class 43HST Diesel Locomotive’s right at the Back of those 16 Carriages Per Units so they can take over at the Back to let those Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s have a rest for those interesting Journeys Please!!, oh can you make all of those Coal Boxes’s 16 Tonnes for all of the 117MPH Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s so the Companies will Understand us PASSENGER’S!! so Please make sure that the Builders can do as they are Told!! And Please do something about these very important Professional ideas Please Prime Minister of England, Prime Minister of Sweden, Prime Minister of Germany, Prime Minister of Italy, Prime Minister of Poland and that Includes the Mayor of London.😉😅😅😀😀😅😀😀😅😅😀😀😀😀😀😉😅😅😀😀😅😀😀😉😅😉😅😅😀😅😀😀😅😉😅😀😅😅😉😅😀😀👏👏👏👏
2:40 W.P. Allen!? That's Allen from the web series, the British Railway Series!!! 3:07 "...and the tornado will make history by becoming the first steam engine, since the 60's, to reach 100 miles an hour.", in which it did with a top speed of 101.6 mph!!!
Not to be that guy but with Big Boy being limited to only a few routes in the US and not really leaving her home metals, and her holding no record of any note beyond being the largest steam engine (left today), Scotsman still pretty much holds that title, with her two records + world tour.
Those driving wheels are big and heavy! When cutting up these locos for scrap, it takes quite a bit of torch work to slice the wheels into manageable chunks for transportation and melting down.
@@paulcaswell2813 Lovely locomotives but I still think the *Dean* singles were more elegant. The 4 *Dean **_Armstrong_* class were over-cylindered but more elegant still. But it's all a matter of opinion,
Wrong It was Not the first Pacific locomotive Raven had 4-6-2 built before Gresley And there was not much difference in speed and power the raven locos burnt more coal per mile than Gresley But Raven WAS the Executive Locomotive engineer ever was Gresley was running the LNER He was there Has consultant to Gresley AND RAVEN LOCOS ARE NOW FORGOTTEN ABOUT
13:35 I really hate to be picky (and I don't know if it'll be mentioned later in the video), but the REAL 2509 was scrapped... That middle A4 is actually LNER engine 4464, better known as Bittern. :/
As if there's a need for a brand new A4 Pacific with 6 out of the original 35 preserved... 2509 Silver Link back from the scrap? It won't happen, buddy...
But there is NO reason to build a new A4 Pacific with 6 still with us!!! Heck, Bittern has become known for cosplaying as some of the deceased A4's, such as Silver Link and, more recently, engine 4492, Dominion of New Zealand! As much as I hate saying this, you HAVE to face it! Silver Link is gone! Dead! Destroyed! Cut up for scrap! Wiped off the face of the planet!!! However you want to put it... So unless there were no surviving A4 Pacifics at all, there is NO demand to build a new Silver Link! And in case you haven't heard this little story about the Great Western 7800's (Manors), building a new Silver Link would honestly be just as pointless as building 7830, Norton Manor, the 31st Manor class locomotive that was ordered buit never built! Heck, the name was carried by 7828 Oddney Manor back in 2011... Seriously, buddy... Putting it a bit bluntly: you can't win this... :/
***** Scotsman had to have new front frames built, new cylinders and other expensive work need to be done so scotsman can run again. Did you see her at the NRM when the Great Gathering was going on?
***** I doubt it will be scrapped as it is an icon and is the most famous steam engine in the world and the NRM get a lot of money from visitors and the British Government also Flying scotsman is quiet old but no way is it the oldest the Rocket has to be the oldest which is in the science museum and a engine called the J15 is 103 years old and there are engine build before then like a Claud Hamilton which was built in 1900 which makes it 115 years old.
Did you know I am helping to build a steam engine called Phoenix which is a Claud Hamilton here is our website- www.claudhamiltonlocomotivegroup.co.uk/-
Look mate if your trying to blow some smoke up someones ass, you really need a steam train for that, not a spread sheet for a budget. What are you, ..... an accountant. LMAO
Chauvinist much? Ever heard of Union Pacific, New York Central, B&O, SP, Norfolk & Western in the US of A? Some arguably more famous machines built/run there, covering more that a relatively wee patch of an island, with some mountainous terrain included. Be real.
thecorinthian to be honest the only US locos I know are 4014 and daylight. And as an Aussie, we have mostly US inspired designs so you would think that I would have heard about more US engines before hearing about Flying Scotsman, Mallard, City of Truro and Princess Elizabeth.
Brings back memories of my time as a footplate man at Kings Cross from 1960 - 1973. I had the honour and pleasure of driving many of these fabulous locomotives.
I envy you Sir, such a great time in our history after WWII when the real race began in this industry.
Do you like trains 🚂 then mate?
I like locomotives, a steam engine is not really a train, but yes I love steam locomotives everyone is different, they all behave & run in their own way.
Shame there was no footage of cutting steam locos for scrap. That was all glossed over,
Wish I knew you.
Even though I'm from America, I still have a great deal of appreciation for these living and breathing pieces of history. I wish we were half as good at keeping them around as you folks in the UK are. I wish I could come over and shake your hands for saving them and then volunteer on them, but I probably won't be allowed to
Boy, I wish I was there too.
There are American people who live in the UK today.
I think the UK rail industry and those who work for the Government owned infrastructure company Network Rail are more sympathetic to steam traction and do what they can nowadays so I would hope you could volunteer with a heritage rail society.
Exactly. In person would be great. For now wishing these would come out on dvd are a more realistic dream.
David
Knowing me, being the nostalgic sap I am, I’d probably start at the Bluebell, since that was the first one I was introduced to through obvious sources.
Thanks for letting me see
These wonderful Railway
Lines travelling often on
From,
Glasgow to Weyms Bay.
Had this on VHS as a kid and finally remembered the name of it.
brings back great memories when I was growing up in learning about Flying Scotsman and the other engines that served the LNER.
I can remember being on Doncaster station many times back in the middle to late 1950s trainspotting and there was no finer sight than to see a `streak` A4 Pacific thundering through the station albeit not at full speed because of the restrictions through the station but still going fast enough to captivate you, add to that the powerful A2s with such names as A H Peppercorn , Hornets Beauty and Blue Peter etc, yeh the 50s and early 60s was a good time to see some of BRs best and greatest locos, I was even lucky enough to see Batchelors Button coming out Doncaster works in pristine condition and at the time was shedded at 64b Haymarket, now that was a sight to see, thanks for the splendid video, it brings back great memories.
terry ashton sounds amazing! I wish I could have seen it
Fabulous video! Wonderful trains! Thanks for posting this!
It’s nice to know some footage of the A5 tanks still survive. They look like impressive machines.
Thanks for posting enjoyed it
Why was almost everything back then glorious to look at ?
13:46 that's actually Bittern because Silver Link was scrapped at Doncaster Works in 1963
Wonderful video, but isn't there a Part 2? This one concludes with class K4, and there are many more including the large V2s.
Those were the machines...!
sort of looks like what might have been an Railscenes video. This yank bought all of them.
LNER had the best steam roster to date! I am glad a lot these babes were preserved and saved from Barry and Doncaster.
It was a pity that so few LNER locos finished up at Barry.
At 20:29 there was a shot in a cutting of the small and large Atlantics that were used on the Plant Centenarian...but I could not see any headboard. I believe that the large GN Atlantic did not steam well as the blastpipe was misaligned with the funnel. The pair were quickly taken away after the run as was the last Atlantic in BR livery about the same time. Management seemed to be very wary of having GN Atlantics on show at the time.
Blue Peter has returned to steam this year
At the end when the narrator said Thompson hated all things gresley, ooh boy that just makes me mad. I swear Thompson was just out to destroy the image of the LNER
This narrator has the best voice ever! I have no idea who he is though???
Anyone know or have any ideas please???
I believe his name was Peter Woods. He narrated a series of "Railway Roundabout for the BBC. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Woods_(journalist)
Yes...Peter Woods was a BBC newsreader in the 70s
He sounds like the man from the railway series was narrated by Willie Rushton
The Lambton tank would have operated on NER rails as they had running rights from the collieries the Lambton system covered down to he local ports.
Macduff Branch (GNSR) 1960 at 24 to 25 minutes.
5:06 Toad the Brakevan!
Yes indeed. Ithinkni saw some troublesome trucks too
Ah when this quality video was acceptable
yay
61657 Doncaster Rovers
I wanted to know why don’t they dig a tunnel and do an extension for the main line Train so they extend the unused abandoned underground stations.
Why couldn’t they use the part D78 Stock train doors on the sides and also restructure the front face of the A60 and A62 stock and remix and make them all together and also redesign them overhead line and also make them into 5 cars per unit and also having 2 Disabled Toilets on those 5 cars per unit A60 and A62 stock trains and also convert the A60 and A62 stock trains into a Scania N112, Volvo TD102KF, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel Engines and also put the Loud 7-Speed Voith Gearboxes in the A60 and A62 stock and also modernise the A60 and A62 stock and make it into a 11 car per unit so it could have less doors, more tables, computers and mobile phone chargers.
A Stock Trains and also having 8 Disabled Toilets on those A stock trains. why couldn’t we refurbish and modernise the waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel and make it more bigger and extend it to bank station, making it into a Triple-Track Railway Line so those 4 European countries such as Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden to convert the waterloo and city line Triple-Track Train tunnel into an High Speed train.
The Third Euro tunnel Triple-Track Train line to make it 8 times better for passengers so they could go from A to B. then put the modernised 11 car per unit A Stock and put them on a bigger modernised waterloo and city line Triple-Track train tunnel so it could go to bank station to those 4 European countries such as Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden. The modernised refurbish 11 cars per unit A stock could be a High Speed The Third Triple-Track Euro Tunnel Train So it is promising and 37 times a lot more possible to do this kind of project that is OK for London Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden.
oh by the way, could they also tunnel the Triple-Track Railway Line so it will stop from Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex so that the Passengers will go to Germany, Italy, Poland and Sweden and also extend the Triple-Track Railway Line from Bank to Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex Stations so that more people from there could go to Germany, Italy, Poland And Sweden Easily.
Why couldn't they extend the Piccadilly line and also build a brand-new underground train stations so it could go even further right up to Clapton, Wood Street and also make another brand new tunnel train stations in Chingford and could they extend the DLR.
All of the classes 150, 155, 154, 117, 114, 105, 106, will be replaced by all of the Scania N112, Volvo TD102KF, Volvo B10M, Gardner 6LXC and Gardner 8LXB Diesel five carriages to disabled toilets are air conditioning trains including Highams Park for extend doing roots which is the Piccadilly line and the DLR trains.
Could you also convert all of the 1973 stock trains into an air-conditioned maximum speed 78 km/hours (48 MPH) re-refurbished and make it into a 8 cars per unit if that will be alright, and also extend all of the Piccadilly train stations to make more space for all of the extended 8 car per unit 1973 stock air condition trains and can you also build another Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive Companies and they can order Every 17 Octagon and Hexagon shape LNER diagram and unique small no.11 Boilers from those Countries such as Greece, Italy, Poland, and Sweden, can they make Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive speeds by up to 117MPH so you can try and test it on the Original Mainline so it will be much more safer for the Passengers to enjoy the 117MPH speed Limit only for HS2 and Channel Tunnel mainline services, if they needed 16 Carriages Per units can they use those class 55’s, class 44’s and class 43HST Diesel Locomotive’s right at the Back of those 16 Carriages Per Units so they can take over at the Back to let those Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s have a rest for those interesting Journeys Please!!, oh can you make all of those Coal Boxes’s 16 Tonnes for all of the 117MPH Mayflower and Tornado Steam Locomotive’s so the Companies will Understand us PASSENGER’S!! so Please make sure that the Builders can do as they are Told!! And Please do something about these very important Professional ideas Please Prime Minister of England, Prime Minister of Sweden, Prime Minister of Germany, Prime Minister of Italy, Prime Minister of Poland and that Includes the Mayor of London.😉😅😅😀😀😅😀😀😅😅😀😀😀😀😀😉😅😅😀😀😅😀😀😉😅😉😅😅😀😅😀😀😅😉😅😀😅😅😉😅😀😀👏👏👏👏
673 Maude shame she won't see Main line work again
Flying Scotsman WASN'T named after a racehorse.
2:40 W.P. Allen!? That's Allen from the web series, the British Railway Series!!!
3:07 "...and the tornado will make history by becoming the first steam engine, since the 60's, to reach 100 miles an hour.", in which it did with a top speed of 101.6 mph!!!
Yeah no shit Sherlock
YOU Got IT NARRATOR Flying SCOTSMAN IS THE Famous
I believe the MOST FAMOUS STEAM LOCOMOTIVE may now have been handed over the the monstreous BIG BOY 4014 it is truly a legend in steam
Not to be that guy but with Big Boy being limited to only a few routes in the US and not really leaving her home metals, and her holding no record of any note beyond being the largest steam engine (left today), Scotsman still pretty much holds that title, with her two records + world tour.
Nah. Scotsman is still the most famous. Happy to clear that up for you.
Flying Scott * claps *
Steam trains > Modern Trains
Aberdeen at 13.06.
I have this on VHS
Same but I have lost mine
Sorry mate, you're thinking of the Terriers from the LBSCR. They're what stepney is based off of
Brad_0 Stepney is a real Terrier.. He’s at the Bluebell Railway
Is it just me or does the narrator sound exactly like Nicholas Courtney??
Lauder Branch 34.00
the s@d video with d beale p Smith happy memories thank you
Marching bands
It's like watching the dawn of civilisation.
*this is Gordon*
'S brother
Those pacifics are massive! The largest driving wheels in my country is 5'00
Those driving wheels are big and heavy! When cutting up these locos for scrap, it takes quite a bit of torch work to slice the wheels into manageable chunks for transportation and melting down.
@@PreservationEnthusiast The *GWR Dean* 7 foot singles were extraordinarily elegant.
@@PreservationEnthusiast Why mention torches when we're talking of these? We've lost enough already!
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 Stirling 8' singles?
@@paulcaswell2813
Lovely locomotives but I still think the *Dean* singles were more elegant. The 4 *Dean **_Armstrong_* class were over-cylindered but more elegant still.
But it's all a matter of opinion,
Funny a D16 will return as rebuild believe it or not
***** I am talking about a LNER D16/2 and it will be called Phoenix
***** Yup are you following the progress?
***** Web page here
www.claudhamiltonlocomotivegroup.co.uk/
When was this actually made Class40100?
7 years and you never got a response... feels bad
I think maybe somtime from the late 60s
@@reddiamond_1753 i think some clips are from the 80s and some are from the 60s
Well the Tornado group was supposedly formed in 1990 (which is referenced in this video) so I'd go for early 90s.
Wrong It was Not the first Pacific locomotive Raven had 4-6-2 built before Gresley And there was not much difference in speed and power the raven locos burnt more coal per mile than Gresley But Raven WAS the Executive Locomotive engineer ever was Gresley was running the LNER He was there Has consultant to Gresley AND RAVEN LOCOS ARE NOW FORGOTTEN ABOUT
anna jeannette Dixon But they were scrapped in the 1930's
W.P. ALLEN No.60114 Yes that old scrap was ripped apart with cutting torches, even before the war.
When was the *GWR Great Bear* built?
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 1908.
@@paulcaswell2813
So, as I thought, it was the first _Pacific-type_ passenger tender locomotive to run on *UK* metals.
13:35 I really hate to be picky (and I don't know if it'll be mentioned later in the video), but the REAL 2509 was scrapped... That middle A4 is actually LNER engine 4464, better known as Bittern. :/
+Jim van der Kolk well maybe Silver Link might be rebuilt back into the proper A4 and not painted
As if there's a need for a brand new A4 Pacific with 6 out of the original 35 preserved... 2509 Silver Link back from the scrap? It won't happen, buddy...
all you gotta do is BELIEVE!!
But there is NO reason to build a new A4 Pacific with 6 still with us!!! Heck, Bittern has become known for cosplaying as some of the deceased A4's, such as Silver Link and, more recently, engine 4492, Dominion of New Zealand!
As much as I hate saying this, you HAVE to face it! Silver Link is gone! Dead! Destroyed! Cut up for scrap! Wiped off the face of the planet!!! However you want to put it...
So unless there were no surviving A4 Pacifics at all, there is NO demand to build a new Silver Link! And in case you haven't heard this little story about the Great Western 7800's (Manors), building a new Silver Link would honestly be just as pointless as building 7830, Norton Manor, the 31st Manor class locomotive that was ordered buit never built! Heck, the name was carried by 7828 Oddney Manor back in 2011...
Seriously, buddy... Putting it a bit bluntly: you can't win this... :/
+Jim van der Kolk All steam locomotives should be cut up for scrap and melted down. Very polluting locomotives. Let's stop this pollution now!
email = steamlover1?
1:06 the scene to end The Scotsman german Part debate
7:58 wheelslip
Shame Scotsman is in bit's But she'll come back eventually
***** She is in bit's still check this website out from the national railway museum-www.flyingscotsman.org.uk/see/photos.aspx
***** Scotsman had to have new front frames built, new cylinders and other expensive work need to be done so scotsman can run again. Did you see her at the NRM when the Great Gathering was going on?
***** Ok but Scotsman might return in late 2015 as most of the other work that needed to be done has or is being done it now just comes to the boiler
***** I doubt it will be scrapped as it is an icon and is the most famous steam engine in the world and the NRM get a lot of money from visitors and the British Government also Flying scotsman is quiet old but no way is it the oldest the Rocket has to be the oldest which is in the science museum and a engine called the J15 is 103 years old and there are engine build before then like a Claud Hamilton which was built in 1900 which makes it 115 years old.
Did you know I am helping to build a steam engine called Phoenix which is a Claud Hamilton here is our website- www.claudhamiltonlocomotivegroup.co.uk/-
omg gordons brother
It `s not called the Flying Scotsman anymore ! It`s now known as the Flying Moneypit !
U hush ur mouth
Be careful what you saying little shit, you will make steam fan angry.
Look mate if your trying to blow some smoke up someones ass, you really need a steam train for that, not a spread sheet for a budget. What are you, ..... an accountant. LMAO
Money well spent...
Rather an abrupt ending, but maybe the poster has an abrupt brain.
Chauvinist much? Ever heard of Union Pacific, New York Central, B&O, SP, Norfolk & Western in the US of A? Some arguably more famous machines built/run there, covering more that a relatively wee patch of an island, with some mountainous terrain included. Be real.
I don't think the Americans produced anything to match the grace and elegance of a Gresley pacific.
thecorinthian to be honest the only US locos I know are 4014 and daylight. And as an Aussie, we have mostly US inspired designs so you would think that I would have heard about more US engines before hearing about Flying Scotsman, Mallard, City of Truro and Princess Elizabeth.
@@thecorinthian4663 The *PRR T1.*
@@thecorinthian4663 yeah. I mean we have the hiawatha. But thats kinda it. I love british steam so much. I would move just to see them
Make (or find) your own video featuring the old US steam locos. And share it in here.