FS2020: Back to Basics with MSFS Series: Part 1 - Trim and Landing Fundamentals.
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- The start of a new series of videos, on learning procedures step-by-step, to help people become more proficient in MSFS. We'll start of with the fundamentals in this video & then progress as the series goes along!
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⌚Timestamps⌚
Introduction: (0:00)
Basic First Steps/checks: (1:27)
Checking your Flight Controls: (6:05)
Flight - Trimming and Landing Configs: (11:42)
#MSFS #MSFSTrimmingtips #MSFSLandingTips - Hry
Wow! One landing tip that you mentioned in this video has transformed my accuracy.
That is to, during approach, maintain a speed that's just above stall speed. This minimise the risk of over or under shooting the runway but have enough room to increase or decrease throttle if required.
That's excellent to hear.
Glad I caught this comment!
Great video as a total newbie at 63 years young you have improved my skills and enjoyment 😊
That's great to hear & thanks Simon.
Thanks for showing how to use trim and control a landing - I now need to try it out and practice.
No problem Ginny; well worth getting these fundamentals down.
Hi as a total newcomer to msfs and gone down the Xbox series s route due to budget and using the game pad these tutorials are really helpful so keep them coming for novices like my self you have increased my enjoyment no end. Thanks😊
Fantastic feedback - you are my target audience for these videos ;)
I also am your target (here in Arizona). Thanks!
Great video, flew a 152 back in 81 and thought I remembered it but I had forgotten the finer points. Back to practice for me. Thanks for your helpful videos.
Most appreciated Phil.
Thanks for another great video! I will definitely be watching out for more... like I have said in previous comments I am new to Flight Simming, having started back in April. I have Learned a lot from your tutorials and I just wanted and wanted to say Thanks again for the time you have spent helping myself and others to try to get a handle on this.
That's a wonderfully kind and inspiring comment - my thanks to you also ;)
Great tutorial Sir!! Thank you. I'm new to MSFS2020 and I'm so glad I found your channel. I look forward to completing all your tutorials 🙂
Wonderful, thank Rev Nicholas and glad to be of service :)
Great video with awesome tips.
Thank you.
Thanks for commenting David.
@Huddison, another excellent step-by-step tutorial from you! Thanks a lot! 👍
Glad you liked it!😉
Great video Huddison! Trimming is quite important in the real thing as well. Nicely described and demonstrated! 😎
Thanks Aces, much appreciated 😎
Thank you for a great video, I have just purchased MSFS on the PC and loving it , but much more difficult than I imagined. I have completed the basic training and the 2nd level, can't remember what that was called now , brain overload lol.....my 1st attempt was with just the keyboard and mouse and found it impossible so got hold of an X Box controller and so much better.
BE sure to check out my recent video using the Xbox controller with PC MSFS: czcams.com/video/eRdqszFOrOA/video.html ;)
Hi thanks for the video it’s was very helpful just need to practice now I do like your video’s Very down-to-earth and helpful keep it up.
Thanks for the great comment Philip.
excellent as usual please keep up the good work
Thanks Patrick :)
Thanks for this informative tutorial video... helpful guidance for the basic handling of the Cessna 152/172.🙂
Glad it was helpful and thanks for the great comment :)
Another great vid that helps improve skills especially for newbs like me..keep them comin..!
Thanks will do!
Really helpful, thanks. Using Tflight, HOTAS one the trim isn’t too bad but real problems with mixture! I thought ‘best mixture’ would solve but kills the engine!
Keep it simple to begin with ;)
Thanks Mr Huddison :)
Most welcome :)
Love these videos matey 😀
Thanks 😉
Great tutorial.it nice of you if you make a video about trimming.Great thanks
Great Video. Thanks
Most welcome Jake.
Great information, thank you! Trimming in a sim is harder than in real life I think, and not many people seem to discuss it on CZcams.
Yes trim wheels seem to be more precise I believe in real life. I got used to trimming in FSX, which was even harder 😱
@@Huddison Good to know and thank you for passing on what you have learnt!
You're a legend
Thank you
As good as any flight instructor would have taught Thank You
Thanks Mike.
love the video
Thanks Fredrick
Great video and series, can iask how you got the map inside the heading compass bottom left screen
Have you noticed there are two ways of setting the weather? One is in the main menu and the other is the in game. I found it when I was trying to set a calm day ie Calm conditions No Wind No Cloud just to check out why the aircraft a Cessna 152 was still rocking and rolling in supposedly calm weather. I had set calm conditions in the main screen but the in game settings were still set as default, after making sure both matched each other I got the weather I wanted. Thought you might like to know this twin choice we seem to have?
Thanks for the tips Ron, very useful.
I did some testflights on XBox after the update and it seems the elevator trim issue is fixed. One button push does now change just a little bit, compared to a full % earlier. Manual trimming is now very well possible on XBox.
That's great to hear.
Fantástico.
Grazie
Thanks as always for your awesome videos.
Just out of interest since the Hotas is still not available in SA, how would you rate the Logitech Vs the Hotas.
Most of my MSFS time is spent in the lounge and not at a desk if you can bear that in mind too please.
Also spend most of my time in the Cessna 152 and 172 if you feel one of the flight sticks is more suitable to the Cessna.
Thanks again
Hi, I prefer using my yoke system when flying aircraft that have an actual yoke in them (like the Cessnas etc); but I love using my Hotas One with my Series S - it adds a lot of immersion, over using the gamepad and it feels fluid and accurate when in flight.
If you're sat back on a coach like me in your lounge, then the Hotas is the better choice, as yokes really need to be mounted to a desk or similar.
@@Huddison Thank you Huddison
Hi 👋 new subscriber, great videos thanks 😊 I'm a newbie to this and I love the game. You're clear and precise and helping me expand my knowledge. One question. On external view, how do I have a clear view w/o the instruments showing?
Thanks 👍
Hi Katy - welcome aboard 😊 Drone camera will give you a clear view without the HUD.
@@Huddison I didn't think of that 🙃 ty
Hi I'm back just check settings are b2 and b1 controller is right button stick up and down and mouse is ok
Really informative video. It really helped me, but on the issue of trimming I am still seeing that my vertical speed is never zero. I am always oscillating between -200 to +200, although gently. Can this be considered ‘level flight’ for practical purposes?
Thanks again!
You'll ideally want VS to be zero'd out - try reducing throttle (or increasing slightly) if you are close to level flight.
Let's try this again. I changed my account and had to unsubscribe from the old one (lfisher441) and resubscribe on the new one, what a hassle. Got a new plane (FreedomFox) which is great. Dusted off the ThrustMaster which is so much better with this plane and had to look up your video on changing the hat buttons for freelook in cockpit and exterior. Getting better and better flying. As you say practice, practice, practice.
That's fantastic. Apologies for the late reply to your message - for some reason it put it in my 'Held for Review' section on CZcams. Shouldn't happen again now ;)
Thanks for this back to basics tutorial. I have a lot of trouble trimming,so I will practice. The external view in the is aircraft gives a numerical indication of our trimming, is that accurate? I like to see how the numbers change with my inputs for trimming but half of the time they don’t change …
Hi, in regards to trimming, I would advice that you concentrate on the Vertical speed marker/tab in the cockpit.
If you're climbing or descending, if you look closely enough, it will display numbers informing you of your climb/decent vertical speed.
The figure in external view shows the percentage. One dab doesn’t make one percent. I think it only does 0,1 or 0,2 percent per dab, at least after the update. Before that it did do 1 percent per dab, which was way to much to be able to trim. That is why you don’t see it changing that much now.
Really nice video! I always have trouble trimming out the plane correctly when using trim controls (i use one of the buttons on mh Honeycomb Alpha Yoke) For some reason i can't get the right setting.
Are you using a rocker switch/button on your yoke?
@@Huddison Yes :) I find it difficult how much 'clicks' i need. It seems first i don't trim down enough ( i keep climbing) so i 'click' once more but then i am descending too much again.
It takes a while to learn, but get used to 'dabbing' the trim, like I showed in this video - perhaps I can do another video that shows this in a more definitive action.
When you were trimming airplane, what was your AOA. Was it orange over green or green over green. Also what was you trim, what percentage of AOA and trim?
I wasn't concentrating on the finer details in this video - it really is meant to be a Basic trimming video.
Great video. Thanks for the tips. The thrustmaster hotas how would you compare it to the x box controller? Despite messing with the settings alot I still find the aileron control is so sensitive and twitchy on the controller. Is the hotas any smoother?
I personally find the Hotas One much more fluid and smoother to fly with, over the Xbox Series gamepad.
Fantastic and good to know. I just need to get on and buy one.
@@MrVinchenza Once you get hold of a Hotas One take time to set the sensitivities you feel best suits what you're looking for - Huddison has a video going over sensitivities which is very useful.
@@DiscoDave50 will do thank you. I also am interested to see the elastic band on the throttle set up.
Thanks for the video I have problems with the trim wheel when I turn the wheel up or down the wheel moves but when I stop the wheel returns to where it started from is this right.on xbox x with hotas one and mouse
I have noticed some ambiguities with the trim wheel recently; still investigating it.
It's worth checking you have auto trim disabled under assists - that has the effect you described if it is enabled.
I have found the problem Auto Ai Trimming in assistance is turned on
Ah 👍
@Huddison with this video you addressed exactly what I was looking for. As a Newbie on Flight Sim 2020 I am still tweaking my setup. I am on a Xbox Series S with a Thrustmaster Hoyas One.
While I saw in one of your other videos that you use buttons for Trim I am still on the default settings here. Having really issues with this to keep my plane balanced I wonder if using buttons instead of the Axis makes the difference. What would your recommendation be?
I find using buttons for trimming is much more precise than using the throttle axis; it's a preference thing though.
@@Huddison thanks for the reply. This rally sound logical to me. So I tried Trim with buttons, but I think I still don't get the trick. Used the same flight route as in your video, but with real weather on. For me it was like push button once for nose up - nothing happened - push button twice - nothing happen - push button a third time - plane start climbing rapidly. Push button nose down once - plane start to sink even more than climbing before. When I had it balanced for a few seconds and had my hands of the controller it started sinking again extreme. To sum it up for me Trim is a stressful process and not nearly as relaxed as in your video. Hopefully this is caused by the weather conditions.
@@Dre55ed2k1ll It sounds like the weather may have been a factor - try it on clear skies setting, until you get more used to it.
Did you upgrade the sim? In the latest version on my XBox S it is much easier to trim. They decreased the effect of a single dab on elevator trim to about 0.1 %.
Before the update the increments were 1% for each dab.
@@caskraker Updated today as I thought Updates apply autatically and now it works. Thanks for the hint
Learning how to fly at 69. MSFS that is. Appreciate your videos. Easy to follow and very instructional. Thanks. Phineas#6565
That's great to hear and thanks for the compliment.
First I’m a newbie with flight sim. But trim on the sim l do not like l was always taught “PAT” to climb or descend Power, Attitude, Trim and never to fly the aircraft with the trim control. I hate the sim yokes that are spring loaded as you cannot feel the aircraft. Personally l feel the sim is harder than the real thing. On the real thing you relieve the load on the yoke after you set the attitude you required which takes just a few seconds. I use the Honeycomb yoke and throttle units (I read they are in financial trouble now) and do not like the yoke for the reasons l mentioned. Does anyone have one of the expensive yoke’s that are supposed to be force feedback?
Hi the problem is with the trim wheel on the Xbox x with mouse and Hotas one when you move the wheel up or down any number clicks the wheel returns back to where it started from does not matter how far you move it. i fly mainly with Cessna 152
Are you using a custom controls profile? My instincts are that you have the the same buttons bound for trim up/down.
@@Huddison I will check easy to do
Make sure you have AI auto trim turned off... This feature constantly attempts to override trim and resets it back towards 0... no helpful at all.
You can do this from the appropriate settings menu, or from the assists panel in flight.
I'm having issue with AP. When I disengage it the altitude hold still stays on....... Is it an AP toggle mode thing?
Are you sure that you're completely disengaging auto-pilot? Do the AP letters disappear from your left G1000 when you disengage?
How do u find it if u use auto trim ?
Not the best personally, I have that turned off.
My trims keep moving back. I add trim and it somehow level back to 0. What assists settings should I use ?
Sounds like a setting confliction. Maybe our discord members can help you with this.
I wish I could park but when manoeuvring on the ground my rudder goes crazy. I think it is a known issue. Any suggestions?
Some people have rudder issues. Check through your 'Assistance options' though - they all reset to easy (pretty much all turned on) after the last update.
You didn't state if you are using a controller or the keyboard for rudder control. I found it impossible to control the rudder with the keyboard and upgraded my flight setup with a set of pedals and that made ground maneuvering that much better. A flight joystick that twists will work as well.
I am using a joystick with a rocker for the rudder. I will look through the assistance options to see if this helps. At the moment the plane careens of the runway to the right no matter what I do. Aaaargh.
@@peterjohnson350 I wonder if that rocker is being interpreted as a switch instead of an axis control? A switch would be as difficult as using the keyboard for rudder control. I'm assuming the joystick doesn't have a "twist" action on the stick? That would be where I would tie the rudder controls to. You need this working otherwise you're stuck to just taking off and landing and no apron manuevering.
About 3 weeks I sent you a problem with the trim ,with the recent updates the problem still persist , have you heard any fixes.
Remind me of the problem again (I get dozens of comments daily ;)
Can i ask. can you take of on a airbus 320 from london city Airport I have tried but can't do it any assistance appreciated. And can I also ask if any one has proplems with mfs reverting back to the xbox series s home screen.
I may try the Airbus down the line. I personally don't have issues of reverting back to the home screen.
How do you update on xbox?
It should update automatically - if not, use your options button on the MSFS Icon and check for updates.
And don’t forget to go into Content Manager (X button) and do all updates that are shown there. Otherwise you only have an updated core and not the aircraft, airports, etc.
@@caskraker Good addition.
After all these used ive never used trim, weird
You should be using trim if it's available.
Dude you need to learn to properly pronounce the names of the airplanes it is not one five two or one seven two. It pronounced 152 all numbers not individual numerals 0ne seventy two ie 172.
Well nice to know you grasped & concentrated on the true subject of this video - really there are bigger things to be concerned about my scrupulous friend.
I like your videos and you do a fine job explaining many things. However in the world of aviation the spoken word is finite. It is important that the correct phraseology be used to omit errors in understanding. As an example in the UK it is perfectly acceptable to use a torch to check the fuel level in a fuel tank. Anywhere else some one may take that as using a propane torch to use as a light source.
We both know how that outcome would be.
I have been certificated Pilot for 50 years I am a retired Airline Pilot, I hold an ATP, CFI (Certified Flight Instructor) CFII (instrument Instructor)
MEI ( multi engine instructor). Former Examiner for type rating on B777, Falcon Jets DA 2000, DA20, DA50, Cessna Citation’s CE500, Lear Jets,
I have a little bit of aviation experience. I was also a simulator instructor on the B777, and the Airbus A330.
I fist started playing with desk top Simulators in 1983. I learned to fly real airplanes when I was in high school.
You have a great deal of knowledge about the FS2020 sim and it is very nice that you have taken the time to produce your videos.
@@TheFalconJetDriver Thanks that appreciated & in a recent Members Only video I released, I talked about me using the correct terminology during my videos - so you do indeed make a good point ;)
@@Huddison Thank you, Sir.