Don't Say "I've Got a Gun!" - Massad Ayoob examines the Philando Castile case - Critical Mas Ep 25
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- While carrying a weapon, a routine traffic stop can turn deadly if you don't know what to say. Just look at the case of Philando Castile in Minnesota. Massad Ayoob has experience on both sides of a traffic stop. Mas explains why officer Jeronimo Yanez was acquitted of all charges. He examines all the mistakes that Mr. Castile made that cost him his life. Understanding the correct terminology and proper movements during a traffic stop could keep you alive.
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Critical Mas(s) with Massad Ayoob is a show that provides expert analysis over a wide range of contemporaneous topics related to civilian and law enforcement self defense, the use of force, and second amendment issues, provided by a renowned and established author with a career spanning decades in training law enforcement officers and the public at large, who is frequently called upon to provide expert witness testimony.
ABOUT MASSAD AYOOB:
Massad Ayoob has been handgun editor of GUNS magazine and law enforcement columnist for AMERICAN HANDGUNNER since the 1970s, and has published thousands of articles in gun magazines, martial arts publications, and law enforcement journals. He is the author of some twenty books on firearms, self-defense, and related topics, including “In the Gravest Extreme” and “Deadly Force,” widely considered to be authoritative texts on the topic of the use of lethal force.
The winner of the Outstanding American Handgunner of the Year Award in 1998, Mas has won several state and regional handgun shooting championships. Ayoob was the first person to earn the title of Five Gun Master in the International Defensive Pistol Association. He is the current President of the Second Amendment Foundation. He served 19 years as chair of the Firearms Committee of the American Society of Law Enforcement Trainers, and several years as a member of the Advisory Board of the International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Association. In addition to teaching for those groups, he has also taught
for the International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors and the International Homicide Investigators seminars.
Mas has received judicial recognition as an expert witness for the courts in weapons and shooting cases since 1979, and served as a fully sworn and empowered, part time police officer for 43 years, mostly at supervisor rank. Ayoob founded the Lethal Force Institute in 1981 and served as its director until 2009, and now trains through Massad Ayoob Group. He has
appeared on CLE-TV delivering continuing legal education for attorneys, through the American Law Institute and American Bar Association, and has been retained to train attorneys to handle deadly force cases through the Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network. Ayoob served for two
years as co-vice chair of the Forensic Evidence Committee of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. He also appeared in each episode of Personal Defense TV (Sportsman’s Channel).
0:00 - Review of what to do video
1:00 - Philando Castile traffic stop
2:40 - What the officer saw
3:10 - The Weapon
4:15 - Reaching for his wallet?
4:40 - Smell of Marijuana
5:30 - Why Jeronimo Yanez was acquitted
5:50 - Us vs Them
7:00 - The lesson to learn
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Just watched the dashcam vid for the first time. The victim did not say “I HAVE A GUN!”. He politely said “Sir, I have to tell you I have a firearm on me”. Pretty big difference there.
Also - while I agree that reaching for his pockets (for whatever) was a move that could be considered threatening - it was not an imminent threat. Especially when combined with the knowledge that the suspect had just voluntarily and politely notified the officer that he was carrying.
Yes. The officer was justified to draw his weapon at that point and command the suspect to keep his hands visible. But to start pulling the trigger? No. In my mind - he would have to see that suspect’s weapon actually being drawn to justify pulling that trigger.
Mind you, at this point the officer had the drop on the suspect - having already pulled his weapon first. So long as the suspect’s weapon remained holstered - there was no imminent threat. Regardless of what the hands were doing.
Personally, I do not believe this was a good shoot.
Yt people hate blk people and the cops are a force to keep us in our place. that man did nothing wrong when he alerted the cop that he had a fire arm. That man was in the car with his wife and child if I remember correctly. We would not try to fight a cop, with our love ones in the car.
Stupidity of reaching at his pocket is not an “immediate threat”. That’s beyond stupidity. Regardless of what he said, it’s an immediate threat and he was not stopping when police wanted him to. Jonathan Diller was killed in seconds. It already too late when he pulled out that gun.
Until recently here in Ohio, we had a duty to notify. The one time I was stopped while carrying, I told the officer I was carrying. He said, “if you don’t take yours out, I won’t take mine out.”
Arizona same way, told the officer it was on my right hip, he said, so is mine, you don't use yours I won't use mine
Now any mope can stick a hipoint in their waistband and not say a word to the officer during a traffic stop until they decide to deploy it. Yay!
@@JJ_SDWR That's what criminals already do regardless of permits or duty to notify.
@@JJ_SDWR If you carry a hipoint your not a gun person
@@texasblueboy1508 no shit. Same thing with carrying a clone of a common model. A sizable portion of people carrying guns are carrying guns like that in nylon clip on holsters
He didn't say "I have a gun". He said. "Sir I have to tell you I do have a firearm on me" in a very calm voice. the cop seemed calm at first and then freaked out.
Right. Ayoob for some reason is exaggerating Castille and de emphasizing the cop.
@@palmwineguy “some reason”? He was a cop himself
Yes...saying "I have a gun" can sound threatening. But that is not what he said. He calmly and respectfully said, "sir, I do have to tell you, I have a firearm on me", which doesn't sound threatening at all. Therfore with all due respect, due to such a drastic misquoting of what Mr Castile actually said, it really puts into question the rest of your assessment and opinion on the matter.
Uh oh, are you questioning the Almighty God King himself? Naughty naughty boy.🤣. With that all said you are spot on with your comment. Mas is not speaking for people of color (even though he himself is of color), and is simply putting the blame on Mr. Castille and not the mindset of police when it comes to people of color. This is the same gentleman as well as James Yeager that made videos during the protest about “if you had to shoot into a crowd”. That should explain everything there.
Actually, you can play the doubt-casting game all you want, which is what defense attorneys hope to accomplish with sheep (and many times defense attorneys successfully accomplish this with sheep), but the statement makes absolutely no difference to the rest of the factual content, sage advice, and analysis provided by Massad here.
Nice try though. You may have succeeded in fooling yourself and a number of sheep, but not anyone who is more than a half-wit.
What did he actually start to take out the weapon is the real Nitty Gritty of it all?? Someone can calmly say whatever and they can pull that gun out and shoot you did he actually start retrieving the firearm?? Anytime you pulled over by police in your caring and they ask you if you having a weapon should immediately say yes officer I have a concealed carry permit and make sure he sees your hands right hand at 10:00 o'clock left hand hanging out the door is what I do some of these guys are paranoid and they will kill you and get away with it that's the sad part
You're exactly right. Asked for ID. How was he supposed to get it. That officer should have been convicted !!
Duh he makes an excuse for every white guy who shoots anyone
"Officer I have a permit to carry and I am carrying tell me what you want me to do" Has worked for me every time.
“Sir I need to se your drivers license…don’t reach!!!…POPx7”
PC In heaven: …bruv…
@@kittysaywut: Utterly not what occurred.
Exactly. If I recall, 1. the officer asked for is credentials 2. The deceased stated he has a gun (which at that time,the officer is on high alert and don’t want him reaching for anything). 3. The deceased reaches for his GUN. 4. Officers sees gun, NOT HIS CREDENTIALS which was in another pocket and fired his service weapon
@@kittysaywut ...Typical cop-hating troll trying to stir up even more hatred where it doesn't belong. Castile caused his own death with Diamond instigating it. Plain & simple for educated people like myself. Sheesh !!!
@@tonyrenteria3186 ...He's a cop-hating troll with no education !!
I was stopped for speeding about 6 months ago, I told the officer in a calm manner that I had a firearm. He told me that he was OK with that. I was calm and respectful and was given a warning to slow down. I think a calm demeanor goes a long way when dealing with law enforcement.
Yes
Then it seems not all cops respond the same way as they're human. Saying you have a gun to a cop can be implied as saying you are allowed to have it, not a threat. If Phil wanted to kill the cop he wouldn't need to warn him.
@@nomad155
Exactly! I am a retired cop. Unless said in a threatening tone of voice, I would never have taken "I have a gun" as a threat. I grew up in a 2A household. I grew up around cops. Even before my state had permits for everyday citizens and not just the connected and privileged, I recognized that many good citizens did carry outside of the law. Unfortunately, our Academies for the last thirty or more years, in trying to teach officer survival, have instilled a lot of "us vs them" paranoia into the officers they trained. Too many cops have adopted the stupid and simplistic mindset that if it has a gun and is not in a uniform, it must be a bad guy and therefore is a threat.
IMHO, Philando C did nothing wrong in saying he had a gun. Reaching for it and continuing to reach for it after being told not to, was what sealed his fate.
@@grigorirasputin5020 Aren't LEO's trained to "freeze the situation/person. People/LEO who feel this officer did the right thing...always conveniently leave that out
That's exactly how you should act. Being rude or confrontational only makes it worse.
I recall having seen this video a long time ago, and your take on it just didn’t seem right so I had to watch it again. “Sir I have to tell you I have a firearm on me”, at which point it immediately escalated. The officer was afraid of his own shadow and that is why this person is dead. You should be making a video for the officers how to better handle this. The officer may have been acquitted of murder, but that doesn’t mean he did everything right.
Exactly. The officer is supposed to be the professional not the citizen.
AMEN!
@@brettb5089 As Massad iterated the officer was investigate and found he was not at fault, that Philando was.
@@KeyserSoze23 "We investigated ourselves and found that we did nothing wrong."
@@KeyserSoze23 wow, you’re a real surface level guy, I take it.
Mr. Ayoob, Thank you very much for your concern and efforts to educate the public. Your thoughts are representative of a common sense approach. Many of the subjects of your presentations are topics that need to be considered before there is an actual requirement to respond to the circumstances in question. Thank you again, DC
I live in the state of Georgia and currently, there is no requirement to inform an officer of the law that I am carrying or that I have a permit. Also, our state legislature has recently done away with the permit requirement for carrying concealed. So, what I've gleaned from this video is that in a traffic stop, it is a good idea to have my necessary documentation (license and registration) already out where it is visible and to have both hands on my steering wheel. After that, I will use my discretion as to whether or not I should inform an officer of my carry status in a non-threatening tone (not "I've got a gun") and ask for instruction on how to proceed.
yeah, the same technique has worked for me for decades. Give the cop the drivers license along with the CCW Permit. Follow it up with both hands on the wheel and a big smile.
Due to duty to inform, Beyond Handing over, DL, CCW, Registration & Insurance Per My State Law for the documents I’m legally required to turn over during a a traffic stop.
Besides, That Any Answering of Questions on your part no matter HOW NICE the Officer Seems, IF you want to ignore the fact that they are Prodding you in order to then USE that info in order to ASSIST the officer is Fining, Incarcerating, & Taking Your Freedom From you. He/She is NOT chatting you up for shits & giggles. They are NOT doing so to establish a cordial “working” relationship with you for the remainder of the interaction. They are speaking to you in order to obtain information which they can then use in order to Arrest/Charge/Incarcerate You. IF you willingly ASSIST the Officer in throwing your own ass in jail that’s your prerogative.
That said, you have a 5Th Amendment Right For a REASON the SAME AS YOU HAVE A 4th Amendment Right Against Unlawful Searches seizure. As, IF the Officer pulls the old, “Well, IF you have nothing to HIDE THEN Why NOT let me VIOLATE your Right to Be secure in Against UnLawful/UnJust Searches & Seizures.
If they want to search your Vehicle, Then FORCE Them to (1.)-Pretend the “Smell Weed” (2.)-Call a Damn K9, Make the Handler Signal the Dog to Preform a False Alert, & when they come up EMPTY, sit back n watch them try and state, “We’ll, You MUST’VE previously had drugs in the car for the dog to “Signal” Line of Horse Shit. (3.)-Watch them bypass Any Legal Justification for a Search, Tear Your shot into Bits on the RoadSide & Then Use the States Pay out to you for Ignoring the proper methods to search a vehicle which also will guarantee that, On OFF Chance they do Discover Anything, since “Fruit of the Poisonous Tree Argument” Nothing discovered will be admissible in court.
You don’t have to be s Complete Prick, yet 99% of the time no one successfully talks their way out of jail, BUT plenty of idiots on a regular basis DO INFACT Talk Themselves INTO JAIL….
Keep in mind that furtive movements as an officer approaches whether reaching for documents or other things can ramp up a cop and give reason for searches. It is better to simply sit with hands in view and comply with all legal instructions. Dash cams are your best defense.
I don't get pulled over often, but when I do my hands are on the 10/02 steering wheel position as the officer approaches.
As a mechanic who regularly has to access insurance and registration, and often times have to search everywhere to find it, because the customer hides it in some random place, I'm left wondering, what is this person's plan when they get pulled over?
The area that shooting took place was my old stomping grounds when I was a kid. I didn't have anybody tell me this but I figured it out myself, when the party lights come on whether you're carrying or not you keep your hands glued firmly to the steering wheel.when the officer walks up. In my case I always turn the dome light on and roll all down the windows. Because it's always seems to happen at night. While my hands are firmly glued to the steering wheel if I am carrying I inform the officer at that time.. every time I have been pulled over while carrying I walked away with a warning or nothing at All the police seem to appreciate the fact that I'm up front and I'm trying to do whatever I can to make sure the situation does not escalate
Hahaha putz
Castile had his hands on the steering wheel until ordered to retrieve his license. Castile did absolutely nothing wrong. Yanez's own sergeant informed the courts that officers are supposed to order a person to keep their hands on the steering wheel, and then ask questions concerning the location of the firearm. Yanez did not do this.
His is a piece of shit officer, and Ayoob is a piece of shit for trying to paint Castile as a bad guy.
I did this and still got a ticket for 10 over headed directly 100yds from that sign where my 10 would’ve been the limit. Small town cops don’t give a shit. They want the money.
I won't even have a beer with a steak dinner out because I value my gun rights over having a beer.
That being said it's a shame that our society has become so uptight in my lifetime that we've decayed to this point.
I don't know what happened in that shooting but I carried a loaded SAW for a year in Iraq, in and around Baghdad and other hostile cities where everyone I encountered I automatically presumed was hostile. I still didn't go around lighting people up.
I've witnessed other soldiers panic-fire on a crowd of people because they didn't have line of sight when other troops down the line were firing over that crowd at a threat behind it, down the street. Some service members have cooler heads than others. I suspect police officers are no different.
In Iraq we couldn't deny civilians the right to carry fully automatic AK-47s until we had justifiable cause to deny them the right to live.
They had to be pointing the weapon at someone before we could shoot them.
Those were the ROE once major combat was declared ended.
Perhaps our society has too many rules for it's private citizens and not enough for those who are considered to be of elite status and supposed to be public servants? Just a thought.
100%
Well said sir and thanks for your service
Thank You Sir.
What really tamed the "wild west" was not rules, regs, or judges. It was having enough people carrying guns for self defense who never concealed them and made it plain they would darn well use the gun if you made threats to them or theirs. Our forefathers and mothers were taught how to shoot both to put food on the table and as sport. Since we have fewer and fewer hunters we have fewer people learning safe gun handling. Those people with no "safe gun" knowledge are the ones who think guns can only be a danger. Those folks are the ones who jump on every police shooting knowing the gun and the cop are criminal. Even people who are licensed for open carry will be harassed by non gun types for "endangering" the public. And since these same folks have never learned anything about the Constitution and Bill of Rights they in their ignorance think THEY are the ones looking out for society. I am very sad for my country.
@@348Tobico I'm not against law and order but the fact of the matter is that law enforcement has become a fraternal masonic order within our society.
We have a two tiered justice system by which the political class and bureaucracy are not held to the same standards as the common man or woman on the street.
The constitution means nothing as long as the swamp creatures can get away with using it to wipe their backsides.
I'd go even further as to say that nobody should need a permission slip from the government to carry a weapon, and in many states that's already the case. I'd take it another step In saying that nobody should need permission to buy a weapon either and that the way to balance out the criminal element in society would be with tougher punishment for real crime and a nationwide stand your ground culture. The fact that these conditions do not exist and that we've had half a century of a war on drugs as an excuse to incarcerate crimes without victims proves that we have a parasitic government that is the problem. When people consent to be ruled, the political class will always come up with new ways to rule them. Such has been the sum of all human history. People have always been more comfortable with chains than with freedom.
Mr Ayoob, I was very much impressed with your teachings. My first exposure to your wisdom was likely in shooting magazine articles, followed by my purchase of self defense books of yours. The things that stick with me in your presentations is the calm, sensible manner you present proven practices on how to stay alive, stay within the law etc. Many people will benefit from how you show the best ways to be prepared for emergency events before they happen so we how we respond leaves us with practiced and rehearsed procedures to give us our best chances for survival should the needs arise.
"Sir, I have to tell you, I do have a firearm on me."
Since you wrote," In The Gravest Extreme ", you have been a wealth of knowledge ,for the armed citizen and Law Enforcement, alike. Mr. Ayoob's tutorials should be included in every CCW class!
Back when I had the funds to do so, I used to buy copies of _In the Gravest Extreme_ to give away to acquaintances who made reckless comments about when they thought they'd be able to use lethal force.
2:06 "Philando Castile says 'I have a gun.' "
That is a lie. What Mr. Castile said was "Sir, I have to tell you I do have a firearm on me.” That is *_very_* different from "I have a gun."
It's a shame that Massad's long career in law enforcement has biased him in favor of the police so much that he is willing to lie in order to make a fellow cop look less trigger-happy than he actually was.
That's the way I recall the footage.
Thank you, Mr, Ayoob for your dedication.
In my state there is no duty to inform, so I don't. The fact that I have a CHL comes up when an officer runs my driver's license. I've never been asked if I'm carrying, but I do have the impression that I'm treated more respectfully because I've been vetted as "good citizen" through being a CHL holder.
Exactly. I was just talking about this today with a coworker. I'm not worried about people with concealed carry licenses. Criminals don't want cops to know that they are carrying a gun and most of them wouldn't be able to get one if they tried due to having criminal record.
@@norwegianblue2017 right, but the guy on this video claims that it’s bad practice to state “I have a gun”, as if declaring such a thing is somehow evidence of ill intention unless you also declare that you have a permit. Your logic is correct that a criminal would ever want to declare their possession of a weapon, nor a would-be-criminal who is allowed to have a gun, who is planning on jumping the officer, they’d never declare they had a gun or their trap would fall apart. Any officer who becomes worried when a citizen declares they have a gun should instead become more respectful of that citizen from that point onward during the interaction. It’s the reason criminals and citizens are usually calm and respectful when interacting with cops, so it should be a two-way street.
Giving that advice to not just say “I have a gun” also undermines the 2nd Amendment because in reality every citizen should be presumed to own a firearm, though unfortunately not every citizen has the wisdom to see the benefit of having one. A cop who treats everyone like they have a gun should seemingly not panic when that ubiquity is reinforced by a citizen. Instead his mentality should be to say “yep I know”, rather than “ok don’t reach for it”. If a citizen does put their hands on their gun like Philando then an officer should immediately step clear away from the window to ensure that both he and the citizen are safe from any split second movements/reactions. Then the officer can continue to retreat as he yells and instructs the citizen to place the gun on the ground outside the vehicle. It could be the simple mistake of an innocent citizen, but it helps the cop have control of an abnormal situation. And if the citizen had bad intentions then the cop can disarm the man from a distance this way, or if the citizen does not disarm himself then the cop is safely away and able to wait for backup.
Thank you for this. I have been through a few license checks and was a passenger in a car involved in a minor traffic accident. Identifying myself as a CCW permit holder and following the Officer's instructions got me through each encounter with no negativity what so ever. One officer even joked with me and said he wanted me for his backup. So these people who try to claim it's a race issue that cause tragedies like this miss the point. If you communicate and follow instructions and make no threatening moves or comments, things go just fine.
fair enough but all the race stuff has flipped now. Blacks are now more often let go, charges dropped, etc, when compared to whites. A law abiding CCW white man now has more to fear from police than a law abiding CCW black man does. Law enforcement have become far too leery of any kind of 'hate crime' infraction. These trends are done on purpose, its called social engineering.
That’s not always the case. It sounds good, but there’s some tyrants in police uniforms that harass everyday citizens minding their business or exercising their rights. I’m glad you didn’t have any negative experiences, but unfortunately not everyone is lucky.
Same experience for me.
The race baiters don’t like your statement! To them you are a victim and you should be scared of police and guns.
Cool, very good to hear. I will rember that-in the event I am in the same situation. I would hope that would help gain respect. The people who "Know it all" and "Dislike the police" have missed the big picture. My thinking maybe not popular, as my brother is LAPD.
Thank you for good solid teachings on how to and how not to handle situations that can make all the difference in the world.
Since this video came out I was pulled over by a police motor officer. That was the second time in my life that’s happened. Your voice was in my head immediately. First off I’m a 30 some year old Asian woman driving alone. As I pulled over, I placed my hands on the steering wheel with the window rolled down. As the officer appeared, he said what agency he represented and then asked if I was carrying a firearm. I didn’t say “I have a gun” (there was your voice lol) I said “yes my pistol is in the trunk”.
To make a long story short, I never received a ticket. My blinker didn’t work.
I live in a state where any law abiding person can carry concealed. I’m trained in the use of all my firearms, and still I feel it necessary to keep my firearm in the trunk. Thank you sir for everything that do in educating people on this subject.
I don't know a single person whose been pulled over for a minor infraction and gotten a ticket while legally carrying a gun. Including myself. It's always been "Oh, you have a license to carry? Alright well this is gonna be a warning"
@@RogerCharlamange you don’t know a whole lot then do you.
What use is your gun in the trunk? Honest question
Most people’s unconscious bias would make them instantly discard you as a potential threat. Try being a 6 foot tall bearded male with a leather vest.
Yes I live in a state too where anyone that's legal can carry a concealed weapon.
I was approached by LEOs while open carrying, was doing a private sale in a public place, the officer closest to me noticed my postol...he Asked me to keep my hand a away from it, I inturn, keeping my hands on the hood, told him to relieve me of it so everyone would be at ease, he did and put it in my car...they told me after all was done they wished more people would be understanding and thanked me for my cooperation.
Wait, he approached and detained you because he saw you open carrying? In a open carry state? If so he needs to be fired...
the proper reply was to tell him to F off and that he should get a job in a Nazi Democrat state...
@@BadCase fr
@@BadCaseAn interaction doesn’t necessarily equate to detained.
In the one instance, where I have had to actually apply this advice, it was very well received by the officer who stopped me. Out of respect for him I did everything I could to keep his stress level low(keeping my hands on the steering wheel etc.) I believe it is always helpful to try and see things from the other's perspective. In other words what would I want from a person who I have pulled over if they are licensed to carry. These officers have enough stress as it is without me saying or doing something that could be misinterpreted. Mas, I very much appreciate your willingness to share with us from your wealth of experience and knowledge. Thank you.
Mas....thank you for your endless, tireless promotion of gun safety, proper exercising of gun ownership and carry, and your longevity in pursuit of understanding the legal environment of gun ownership and usage, as it has changed endlessly over the years and throughout the many jurisdictions you cover.....I have known about you since the 1980's......very truly grateful for your effort and gun and life intelligence.....you provide a great deal of usable information and solid, sensible advice...CR
Excellent discussion. Thank you Massad and Wilson Combat for presenting this.
Mas, always concise and to the point, thank you very much, Cheers from Florida, Paul
If I am stopped, I take three cards from my wallet and hold them up to the window: License, registration and concealed carry permit. That has always kept both sides comfortable. Only once was I chewed out and that was because I was NOT carrying at the time. I was advised that certified, good people (such as the two of us) should always carry.
i just put my whole wallet on the dash with my hands high up on the steering wheel. Then I don't need to reach for any pockets just the clearly visible wallet on the dash
I have known of Massad Ayoob for most of my life and somehow thought he had passed on years ago. I am now thrilled to know that Wilson Combat has immortalized his critical training points for the public.
Each point he makes is like water in the Desert. Mr. Ayoob, THANK YOU !!!
I believe I've said it before...but, thank you, Sir.
I may not agree with you on everything you say, but I am super thrilled you are prepared to talk about it and express your point of view so articulately.
I teach my students to put both hands on the steering wheel at 10 & 2. Roll down the window no matter the weather and when the officer approaches, to say "My DL and CCW/CCL are in my wallet and say exactly where that wallet is located. I am 'carrying' today and my FIREARM is.... How do you want to proceed?"
That puts everything in the officer's hands and makes it all clear.
The two students of mine who have been stopped for a traffic violation and followed those directions were both complemented by the officer and were not issued citations.
That’s exactly right.
That is exactly what I do. I was stopped last year for a tag light being out. I told the officer that my DL is in my wallet, my insurance is in the glove compartment, I have a license to carry and I have a pistol in my console - what do you want me to do? How did it end? A warning.
@@FreeAmerican-mm2my Well stated. The question: "What do you want me to do?" is a valuable one in this context and in many others. It takes the responsibility off of oneself and onto the other party, while inviting direct dialogue instead of conflict. It also makes the other party responsible for their response and they need to make it a reasonable one if it is a request.
Not mumble..."yo pig" as hand dives into the console?
I am not telling them about my weapon. At that point he can should do reach for it and shoot. No sir. The cops should assume the person has a gun and be cautious.
As a criminal defense attorney, I'm always impressed by Mr. Ayoob's takes. Spot-on on the legal analysis and how cops think. Good video.
@@Baman21 and you may be right. His factual premise may very well be incorrect. But the analysis is good based on the assumed facts. I haven’t seen any bodycam or read up on the incident so I can’t comment on details.
@@wheelguns4wheelmen802 It's not a matter of might, and the assumed facts are a lie.
"I haven’t seen any bodycam or read up on the incident so I can’t comment on details."
@@taliaperkins1389 It is spot on based on the fact pattern presented. If those facts aren’t accurate, that isn’t my fault. I’m basing my evaluation of his legal analysis on his representation of the facts. That’s how us lawyers operate. We get presented a fact pattern by either the cops, our clients, other witnesses (sometimes our own investigator) and then we evaluate each of those fact patterns as if they were true. I’m not going to investigate every fact pattern presented on CZcams to ensure it’s veracity. My point is still valid-the analysis is well done. Regardless of if the facts are true.
@@wheelguns4wheelmen802 " That’s how us lawyers operate. "
total BS analysis
thanks for posting
Great stuff as always. Thank you as always.
We want to hear from you too! Let us know your personal experience if have been pulled over while carrying a firearm. What do you recommend?
I was checked by a SC State Conservation Officer a few months ago while fishing, right from the get go I notified him of my CCW Permit and of the S&W Shield 45 I was carrying that day. He said if I left mine in the holster he'd do the same. Granted SC is a pretty conservative, rural state and the vast number of CO's are very pro-gun, but still I was up front and polite and he returned the favor. All in all I thought it was a positive experience.
I have been pulled over twice while carrying. By the time the officer gets to my car, windows are down, my wallet is on the dash, my hands are open palm up on the steering wheel. First words out of my mouth are: Officer for your safety and mine, I have a valid Ohio CHL and there is a loaded weapon on my person at the 430 position.
The worst thing that's been said to me was: You don't pull yours, I don't pull mine.
No ticket either time.
I've had a couple such experiences. The last time was shortly after bought a used jeep. Unbeknownst to me, the speedometer was out of calibration and I speeding. When the cop pulled me over, he immediately saw my pistol and ordered me not to touch it. I simply remained calm, shrugged, and said okay. I made a specific point not to refer to it as a gun; opting instead to refer to it as a firearm or a pistol so as to not appear threatening. I also let him know I had a concealed carry permit and he whenever he asked for something, I was completely cooperative. He checked my permit and the serial numbers and, being as I had no prior convictions or criminal history, returned my property and told me to get the speedometer calibrated. Stay calm, cooperative, and just don't give them any reason to suspect trouble and you should be fine.
My Wilson Combat Beretta may have saved me from a speeding ticket!?
Absolutely true story
Driving into the city (1 hour drive) for a medical appointment and CT scan. I was running a bit late…. Very light traffic and yes I was exceeding the posted speed limit on a federal interstate. Missouri State Trooper was well concealed and had me cold about 15 over. A point violation….
I stopped , emergency flashers, all windows down and hands on the wheel… trooper approached and asked me if I knew why he stopped me. My response was, “I am quite sure you have a valid reason… (not admitting fault) and trooper, for our safety I want you to know that I am a CCW holder and I do have a weapon. Please tell me how to proceed”. He thanked me and asked me to get my license and insurance. I explained my wallet was directly adjacent to my holstered weapon. He said to go ahead. I moved slowly and methodically retrieving license, CCW and insurance. He asked me where I was headed and I explained the appointment and time. He said “ Ill get you going asap…. By the way can I ask what kind of weapon you carry?” This caught me off guard a bit but he seemed sincere . I responded “ A Wilson Combat customized Beretta 92…”. He responded “Really…?! I would like to see that… Wilson does some fine work…”. I told him he was welcome to see it and that it ran like a sewing machine…. He said “maybe when you have more time… hang on for a minute and let’s get you going..”. He went back to his cruiser, came back very quickly, handed back my items and said “drive safe “…. Never even gave me a warning. He seemed genuinely interested in the Wilson Combat firearm I had. Good interaction on both sides and I didn’t get about a $400 ticket. Go Wilson Combat!
I don’t get pulled over often and where I live it’s darn near impossible to have a gun in the car that’s not locked up and unloaded so I carry my guns in the trunk, that being said I turn off the car place the keys on the dashboard hands on the steering wheel. I listen to the officer and ask if it’s ok to reach for what he or she wants and I let them know where I have to reach to get it and then ask if it’s ok to do so.
Thank you for the calm level headed commentary... or explanation
Most appreciated!!
Castile] kept his seatbelt fastened, greeted Officer Yanez and handed over his insurance card, according to prosecutors’ version of events. Then, before his girlfriend said he reached for the wallet that contained his driver’s license and permit to carry a pistol, Mr. Castile said, “Sir, I have to tell you that I do have a firearm on me.”
Within seconds, Officer Yanez, of the St. Anthony police, had shouted, “Don’t pull it out,” and Mr. Castile and his girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, tried to assure him that he was not grabbing the gun. But Officer Yanez quickly fired seven rounds, fatally wounding Mr. Castile just 62 seconds after the traffic stop began. An instant later, Mr. Castile moaned and said, “I wasn’t reaching for it.”
Ayoob is a liar, he did not say " I HAVE A GUN!".
Great information! All of us can use a refresher course and your information is always spot on. Thank you!
Thanks man for telling at the way it is weather you carry a gun or not , there’s a Lotta good practical information here that you should be aware of. Great show… Keep on rockin.
Massad, I have owned all your books on self protection for years and love hearing about your experiences on video too.
You're the best! 👍🏻
Love the talks.
I appreciate that you are always calm and rational in your videos.
GREAT VIDEO!! This was explained with clarity 👌🏽
Here in North Carolina I was taught this. When pulled over by law enforcement #1 keep both hands on the steering wheel period. #2 when given the opportunity to speak, inform the officer that I have a CCH permit and either I do or I do not have a weapon on my person.
I have never had a situation where "I" made an officer feel uncomfortable. If you don't want to get shot or tazed do this one simple thing , Follow instructions. Period
I personally just go with "I don't answer questions"
@@brentfarvors192 Which translates into, "I'm not going to cooperate," or even, "I'm planning to be a dick." (I will, however, allow that tone of voice and demeanor can make a major difference in how they respond.)
"I don't answer questions," no matter how voiced, signals that you intend to escalate the contact into a confrontation. The cop's anxiety level rises, even if he or she is in control enough to not let it show.
Both hands still on the wheel as Danny described will decrease their anxiety. The first words out of your mouth should be, as appropriate, "Police officer," "retired police officer," "concealed carry license" or whatever then #1 where the weapon is and #2 where your ID is. "Retired police officer, weapon is on my right hip, wallet is in my left hip pocket," then shut up and wait for them to tell you how to proceed.
@@neilmarsh1904 Yeah; I dont give a FCK about ANY of that!!! Never in the history of the Police has answering questions gotten someone OUT of trouble. Like it or not (This is a %100 FACT); They don't give a SINGLE chit about you, OR your innocence. All they care about is making ARRESTS!!! It's up to YOU to protect yourself, because they sure as HELL aren't going to do it!!! DON'T ANSWER QUESTIONS!!!! Your lawyer will thank you later!!! NOWHERE did I say to be confrontational; "I don't answer questions, thank you (Smile)"; Then,( this is the most important part): STFU!!! Don't keep answering questions. Remain SILENT. The ONLY thing you (kind of) need to agree to, is a roadside BREATHALYZER( NEVER, EVER, EVER consent to any searches, OR most definitely not roadside "sobriety tests". Take my free advise, OR pay a lawyer $5000.00 to teach it to you.
@@neilmarsh1904 police state much? This is not how are free man behaves. I’m not a whipped dog because there’s people out there that don’t know how to obey the law
@@castiron2932 It's how a grown-up behaves. You want to bow your neck and argue? That's what courtrooms are for - do it there.
I'll be blunt, you are a God damned fool if you do something that you know bloody well can escalate a contact into a confrontation just because your ego says, "Fuck with the Man."
There was no evidence by autopsy, Marijuana in the car or statements from the girlfriend to support the allegation of "odor" in the car and that's a common claim by police officers to escalate a routine stop. As to "fitting the description", I doubt many felons in flight do so with a child in the backseat. The cop had backup, granted the language used was incorrect, but being an idiot isn't a capital offense. There were alternatives and this cop acted out of irrational fear, not training or duty.
Felons run from the cops with kids all the time.
Amen
The officer discharged 7 rounds into the vehicle containing a passenger and a child...
This was my first thought too. They ALWAYS lie about smelling an "Odor". So who cares if the officer said he smelled something. Stop lying, then maybe we'll believe you.
If any citizen had made the same mistake as the officer they would have been charged with manslaughter..
Thank you for the informative content Mas!
Excellent presentation!
Super video. Hope everyone stayed awake in class. All good information as always.
I watched the video and read transcript again. I take it all back. My 1st impression of the case 4 yrs ago stands. The officer was afraid of his own shadow and didnt know what compliance looks like. He may have been acquitted, but he was let go by the PD and is no longer a police officer: For good reason!
imagine killing someone and all you get is fired from your job. then you have officers and formers officers defending you to the hilt despite KNOWING you were wrong. thats why people hate cops.
Thank you for the heads up!
Excellent info!
Glad it was helpful!
When Maine adopted permitless carry in October 2015, a duty to notify became part of the law. The one time I've had contact with an officer while I was carrying (a deer crashed into my car late one night, and then fled the scene), I said "I have to notify you that I'm doing 'constitutional carry'." and he said he was fine with that.
Cool no one asked.
I was pulled over by a Texas State Trooper while not only carrying but also had a car load of guns on my way to do some shooting with my son. The very first thing I did when the officer approached my window was hand her my carry permit, told her I had a gun on my hip and several in the back. She very kindly said thank you for letting me know and said be sure and leave it holstered. She was very friendly and let me go with just a warning to watch my speed. I’m glad my son (14) was there to see because he might find himself in a similar situation one day. One thing all of these police shootings have in common is they begin with someone being combative with the officer or ignoring simple commands only meant to keep the situation safe. Don’t start none and there won’t be none.
This guy has no idea what he is talking about and some of his advice will get you waking up in heaven.
I don’t know if one should give CC card with license but can’t hurt.
A lot of strange shootings have a convicted felon with the gun shooting kids with basketballs or wrong drive way.
I’m not so sure I’m going to follow his recommendations in the future, maybe tips on cleaning but not legal. Release the Transgender Manifesto!
Great advice! Thanks
Much appreciated Mas!
I made a bad turn down near Vero Beach in Florida and got pulled over after I had taken my boys fishing on MLK day. When the officer walked up to my window I had my license, insurance card and my CCW in my hand with both hands on the wheel. He took the info, looked at the license, handed it back to me and thanked me. He didn’t even ask where the firearm was. He went back to his car to run my details and came back. We discussed what happened, I also had the windows down so he could see my teenage boys in the back and there was nothing hidden by my tinted windows. I got let off with a warning.
Treating police interactions like a wild bear encounter maybe suggests that things aren't the way they're supposed to be.
Mas, I have a concealed carry resident of Kentucky. I have been stopped several times, mostly speeding, and I ALWAYS give my CCW with my driver's license. I have never been asked what I have, where it is, or "let me see it". Usually they say slow down and have a nice day. Never even got a warning ticket. The explanation I got from a LEO was they know there's a gun and they just want you on your way so there's no possible unintended consequences. ALWAYS INFORM!!!
It's not because you have a gun.
He did inform, suck ass. Ayoob lied about what Castile said. You praise the man, yet he's lying about it.
Thanks for the great info!
Better not to notify over a routine traffic stop. Good analysis of this stop.
Mass I have known about you for a very long time. One thing I have learned is that you say it like it is. Your honesty is to be commented. Thank you
I definitely comment his honesty
Commended
He effectively communicates the perspective of law enforcement in various situations. That isn't always best for the general public because the situation can change in ways not perceived by the public but, they are by the officer. There is some practical positives to what he says but, when he started to give instruction about what to say to PD after a shooting is fundamentally flawed.
Likewise, what he says here is unhelpful regarding an unjust situation with an unbalanced dynamic. The best PD interactions will seem polite and balanced.
also to be commended.
Castile] kept his seatbelt fastened, greeted Officer Yanez and handed over his insurance card, according to prosecutors’ version of events. Then, before his girlfriend said he reached for the wallet that contained his driver’s license and permit to carry a pistol, Mr. Castile said, “Sir, I have to tell you that I do have a firearm on me.”
Within seconds, Officer Yanez, of the St. Anthony police, had shouted, “Don’t pull it out,” and Mr. Castile and his girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, tried to assure him that he was not grabbing the gun. But Officer Yanez quickly fired seven rounds, fatally wounding Mr. Castile just 62 seconds after the traffic stop began. An instant later, Mr. Castile moaned and said, “I wasn’t reaching for it.”
Ayoob is a liar, he did not say " I HAVE A GUN!".
7:13 that is assuming too much. Is one to defend himself against the confirmed use of deadly force or against the assumption that deadly force could potentially be forthcoming? No actual weapon drawn out, no defensive shots fired. If I had done the same this trigger-happy officer did not being in blue, I would not have been acquitted of all charges, I am afraid.
Thank you for this information.
great information
It's a sad story. Hopefully this information saves lives. Thank you.
Outstanding explanation and some common sense information to keep everyone safer. I wish more people could have the chance to see this video and be educated in interaction with the police and public .
Excellent advice!
Glad you think so!
Excellent video!
Im a Brit but I lived in AZ for a while... Yes I carried a Sig P226 in .357sig
I was stopped because I was lost and parked in a layby, looking at the map and someone thought I looked suspicious.
When the cop arrived at my window, he startled me as I was busy looking at the map and making notes for directions. I put my hands on the wheel and spoke to the guy.
A calm English accent is a great helper in the USA.
"Well hello old boy! Jolly good day today what what? How are you today my fine fellow?"
Please tell me the interaction started like that.
@@stevepalpatine2828 not quite.
Following my other interactions with Americans. I know they are not the brightest bulbs in the box.
So speak slowly and use short baby words so they dont get confused.
@@sahhull Thats why I never liked Arizona.
That and the heat.
@@stevepalpatine2828 Yuma, AZ was great.
I didnt mind the heat. The locals were pussys... They think anything under 80 degrees is cold.
I was lost in LA. Looking how to get back.
@@sahhull Says a Brit who thinks he is superior, but his trash talk actually comes from his jealousy of America. If America is so beneath him, why does he come here? As his homeland continues to sink into the cesspool it is becoming thanks to bad government that started with Blair, he will be begging to emigrate here. What his governemnt did is similar to what president Joey is trying to do here. Look at Europe and Britain if you want to see what will happen with unchecked immigration. The fact is there are good and bad people, smart and stupid people everywhere. And there are deluded types like this clown who cherishes his imagined air of superiority. It's just compensaition for his feelings if inadequacy and jealousy.
I believe the majority of LEO are worthy of my respect. I have had occasion to inform officers I was carrying. They simply asked where it was. I showed them and no further issues. A little respect goes a long way....
Lol, watch a month of First Amendment Auditors and that'll cure your problem.
Don’t show them where your gun is - tell them. No unnecessary (and dangerous) movements until the cop is sure you’re one of the ‘good guys.’
@@m4rvinmartian I believe those "audits" to be tailored to elicit an unsatisfactory response. I know I would give one.....
You're in the minority. You're also suffering from Dunning Kruger effect. It's not to late to be a real American Benedict Arnold
@@ibnewton8951 You're internalizing the commands of your oppressors. I mean this with all due respect,,,grow a pair!
Thank you. Good advice from an excellent source.
Excellent and Outstanding Advice!!!! Thank You!!!!
Thank you, thank you, thank you Wilson Combat and Massad Ayoob. 7 o’clock is the perfect time for these live chats. And of course I think it’s perfect because that’s when I’m available.👍
Our pleasure!
Oh how convenient for you. Maybe some consideration for your brothers in arms in other time zones?
Castile] kept his seatbelt fastened, greeted Officer Yanez and handed over his insurance card, according to prosecutors’ version of events. Then, before his girlfriend said he reached for the wallet that contained his driver’s license and permit to carry a pistol, Mr. Castile said, “Sir, I have to tell you that I do have a firearm on me.”
Within seconds, Officer Yanez, of the St. Anthony police, had shouted, “Don’t pull it out,” and Mr. Castile and his girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, tried to assure him that he was not grabbing the gun. But Officer Yanez quickly fired seven rounds, fatally wounding Mr. Castile just 62 seconds after the traffic stop began. An instant later, Mr. Castile moaned and said, “I wasn’t reaching for it.”
Ayoob is a liar, he did not say " I HAVE A GUN!".
@@gowilsoncombat Castile] kept his seatbelt fastened, greeted Officer Yanez and handed over his insurance card, according to prosecutors’ version of events. Then, before his girlfriend said he reached for the wallet that contained his driver’s license and permit to carry a pistol, Mr. Castile said, “Sir, I have to tell you that I do have a firearm on me.”
Within seconds, Officer Yanez, of the St. Anthony police, had shouted, “Don’t pull it out,” and Mr. Castile and his girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, tried to assure him that he was not grabbing the gun. But Officer Yanez quickly fired seven rounds, fatally wounding Mr. Castile just 62 seconds after the traffic stop began. An instant later, Mr. Castile moaned and said, “I wasn’t reaching for it.”
Ayoob is a liar, he did not say " I HAVE A GUN!".
That was good advice ! Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you sir for sharing your experience and insight
Always a complete explanation ! Great job Master !
Thanks Massad. Great information. I'm a new subscriber and I'm really digging your videos. A wealth of information.
Welcome aboard!
Ayoob lied about what the victim said AND how the victim said it. He then filled the rest of the video with conjecture. The victim said, "Sir, I must inform you that I have a firearm on me." He said this as politely as one could. His only intention being to inform the officer.
The officer never saw the gun. The officer panicked and shot the victim. As the victim sat dying in front of his daughter, he was still trying to alleviate the unhinged officer's concerns, saying, "I wasn't reaching." During this time, the panicked and unhinged officer was busy saying "fuck" over and over.
The officer never attempted to remove the gun or secure the victim.
The officer thought the victim fit the description of a man who had committed armed robbery. This means he considered the man a potential danger, yet decided to approach the man without waiting for backup. This placed himself and the victim in an extremely dangerous situation.
The officer was fired as soon as he was aquited.
The officer was obviously negligent in his duties, which led to an innocent man's dearh. This makes him guilty of manslaughter.
@@gowilsoncombat
This video is deceitful. Ayoobs premise is built upon a lie, that a simple Google search of the actual events refutes entirely.
Philando Castile wasn’t killed because he said that he had a gun. That’s not even remotely the problem in what happened to him. I too am a former police officer with 10 yrs., experience. I spent 90% of time, as a police officer, making traffic stops as I worked in a street crimes unit as well as a traffic unit, primarily working DWI’s. So, I’ve stopped ten of thousands of drivers on traffic stops. I’ve stopped drivers who were armed and told me that they had a firearm, which in Texas, they are required to do as a licensed citizen. I provided them with clear, concise instructions on how to proceed and I also made sure to ask where the gun was located, as well as instruct them to leave their hands where I could see them and to be slow in their movements. No one had to die the day that Philando was stopped and that falls on both the officer and Philando himself.
Obviously, Philando shouldn’t have been smoking marijuana and then carrying a firearm. Unfortunately, that was just a dumb move. If the officer was thinking that this was a robbery suspect, why not do a felony stop? He admitted that he was already afraid and a felony stop makes the most sense for him to have done, since he suspected that Philando was possibly this suspect. I haven’t seen the court transcripts but since you brought it up, I can only imagine that Philando’s past traffic violation history was discussed in the trial, even though that has nothing to do with him being shot dead. Well, the officer, being trained in dealing with people who are under the influence of drugs and alcohol, probably also knew that when dealing with such people, you must be slow, repetitive and give concise instructions. In fact, if the person appears to be having comprehensive issues, it’s best to ask if they understand and before informing them to proceed. That wasn’t done.
As for this not being a “race” issue because the officer is a Native American, has nothing to do with the issue as well. Police shootings hasn’t been disproportionate against “people of color”. Police shootings have been disproportionate against African Americans, specifically in multiple studies. So, this officer’s ethnicity has nothing to do with what happened.
That’s the problem with most people in the U.S., we don’t study history or try to learn from it. Unfortunately, most would rather just forget the dark history of the U.S., and just write it off as a bad dream but unfortunately it did happen and it’s not pretty. People of African descent have been badly portrayed as villains throughout American history up until the 90’s. Why is that relevant? Easy, because things don’t just change in 30 years or even a century, for that matter.
In the end, none of us really know what happened that day. Court trials don’t reveal all of the facts of any situation. In fact, court trials really aren’t about the truth at all. Ultimately, it all comes down to who can tell the best story and paint a picture that a jury is most likely to believe. Hence, Philando’s past traffic violation history was probably discussed in court in order to paint a picture of a person, as we heard in the video, of a someone who had no regard for the law or following rules. That’s also why most defense attorney’s have far more court experience than any assistance district attorney. I’ve also spent a lot time testifying in criminal cases also and I’ve seen it, firsthand.
So, don’t be afraid to tell an officer that you have a firearm in your possession. I would suggest that you first don’t engage in any alcoholic beverages or any drugs, which would leave you under the influence, and carry a firearm. I would also suggest that you keep your hands on your steering wheel and try to relax. Being nervous, unfortunately, may put the officer on edge. Let the officer know what you’re doing before you do it and make sure that the officer is ok with you proceeding to do what you said you would do. Lastly, listen to the officer and ask any questions if you have any, without moving your hands.
Most of your comment is BS!!!! Will ARTICULATE with confidence latter!!!! SMH!!!! Have to get back to work for now!!!! HOWEVER, being very good at analyzing one's language, i will do with yours!!!! After, i then CHALLENGE you to a livestream debate!!!!
Good information!
Very helpful!
Outstanding lesson that everyone who carries should watch and learn from. One thing I learn many years ago when I carried a badge is have your wallet/creds on the other side of your body from your firearm. I had an encounter with a uniformed officer and I was in street clothes and he ended up putting me in cuffs till he could pull my creds out of my right hip pocket passed my holster after he removed my firearm. I went along with everything he told me to do and when he saw my badge and creds he released me and gave me back my stuff. We parted company both alive, healthy and happy. I now carry my wallet in my left hip pocket and pistol on right hip.
Castile] kept his seatbelt fastened, greeted Officer Yanez and handed over his insurance card, according to prosecutors’ version of events. Then, before his girlfriend said he reached for the wallet that contained his driver’s license and permit to carry a pistol, Mr. Castile said, “Sir, I have to tell you that I do have a firearm on me.”
Within seconds, Officer Yanez, of the St. Anthony police, had shouted, “Don’t pull it out,” and Mr. Castile and his girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, tried to assure him that he was not grabbing the gun. But Officer Yanez quickly fired seven rounds, fatally wounding Mr. Castile just 62 seconds after the traffic stop began. An instant later, Mr. Castile moaned and said, “I wasn’t reaching for it.”
Ayoob is a liar, he did not say " I HAVE A GUN!".
Unless of course the actual microphone of the body cam RECORDED DIFFERENTLY THAN THE ALLEGATION. Don’t put it above these Soros backed DA’s to lie
I read somewhere years ago that if you're carrying, to hand your CCW license and your driver's license together to the officer. He'll understand what you're saying and if he asks "Are you carrying?", you can say yes, tell him where the weapon is and ask him what he would like for you to do while keeping both hands on the steering wheel. That way you won't freak him/her out by saying "I have a gun". Sounds logical to me so if I ever get stopped, that's my plan of action.
The issue with that is thats not an official policy. And who’s to say saying “i have a gun” “ i have a permit” or “i have a firearm” or whatever would make a difference. There are several states where you can conceal carry without a permit so what do those people in those states so or do since a permit is nonexistent and unnecessary in those states.
@@biscaynesupercars Getting the permit is still heavily encouraged for reasons like these, so that you do have this safety net if the need arises.
Here in Indiana, our Attorney General, in his Gun-Owner's Bill of Rights, encourages obtaining the CCW permit, even though we have constitutional carry.
@@Kagawwy “encouraged” still does not mean required or necessary so again permits aren’t required or mandatory in many states and more and more states are making it so that they aren’t needed at all
I'm not saying anything.....if they gotta search my car. Ima say I was scared to say anything, I didn't want you to shoot me. I'm black, rules are different for me.
You can craft plans of action and practice lines until the cows come home, doesn't mean it's gonna work.
Many thanx Massad 👍👍
So well spoken. Love this guy. Love the reckless part. Wow. Perfect.
Mas, do you have any specific recommendations or considerations for handling an LEO encounter as an armed citizen carrying without a permit in states that allow this?
Good question. Georgia just became a constitutional carry state.
Yeah, don’t even mention it unless they ask. That’s a good way to handle police in general.
@@Baman21 it’s cop protecting cop narrative and old school racism if I had to guess why he is paraphrasing “ I gota gun!” Not what he says at all …
Excellent video, as always.
Thank you for this lesson.
We live on the water so when we are "pulled over" we can be boarded without regard to our non-existent 4th Amendment "rights" since our home is a "vehicle" or marine vessel subject to random "safety" searches and whatever the water LEO feels is necessary without regards to any theoretical
non-existent "constitutional rights" which don't actuallyp apply out on the water in practice, apparently.
This is just reality.
That's messed up
yeah bs coastal maritime laws applied to inland waters.
You can always buy a double-wide trailer.
Maritime rules, regulations and laws differ from land based legalities. Best to be compliant and advise officers if you have firearms on your watercraft.
We have a duty to notify in my state. I’m also a retired officer and I teach many firearms classes. I vehemently tell my students not to use the gun word, that it causes a Pavlovian response from officers. That response usually involves them drawing their own weapon. Simply say you have a carry permit and explain where your firearm is. Don’t use the “G” word.
@Captain Skippy he did not use the gun word. He said “Sir, I have to tell you I do have a firearm on me.”
Words to live by... Literally. Thank you for your wisdom.
I have been buying and reading M. Ayoob's books since 1980. I was surprised that he is so articulate and concise while speaking; some authors are not. I am even more impressed by this man.
Not only can he educate people about firearms he can educate us how to communicate. He is good.
I respect Massad and own several of his books. I've seen the Philando Castile video before. After this presentation, and with a clear mind and no bias, I rewatched the video again. I can honestly say, in this case, Massad is absolutely wrong about the events that transpired that afternoon and demonstrated one of the most elaborate examples of "spin" and Mental Gymnastics I have ever seen.
I just watched this video, and I cannot for the life of me understand how Massad exonerate the Police Officer in that case. Philando Castile can clearly be heard saying "I'm not pulling it out", but the Officer completely panics and shoots him point blank. 7 times. If ever there was a proof that the officer panicked, it's that he empties his entire magazine. Had he carried a P226, I'm pretty sure he would have shot him 15 times.
I am so disappointed in Massad, but unfortunately not surprised by his bias.
In the dash cam video, you can see the officer place his arm inside the vehicle, not yet having drawn his firearm, and yell, "No! No!" at the same time the female passenger is screaming, "No!"
I believe he was trying to prevent Mr. Castile from reaching for anything.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 no burden of proof is good enough for you people. Your mind is already made up.
@@johnnyguitar6697 It is absolutely irrelevant what he says. What he does is relevant. If I were to shoot a cop I would say anything that makes him think that I am not dangerous. When a cop says do not reach for it. You do not reach for it or for anything or you will die.
Now we do not se inside the car but it is highly unlikely that Castile had his hands on the steering wheel.
As always clear and concise, excellent presentation thank you.
Spot on. Excellent analysis.
According to the dash cam video of the incident, here is the transcript:
[Officer Politely explains reason for stop]
[Philando Castile (polite tone)]: "Sir, I have to tell you I do have a firearm on me"
[Officer (calmly)]: "Ok.. ok... don't reach for it then, dont pull it out"
[PC (calmly)]: "I'm not pulling it out"
[Officer (firmly)]: "Don't pull it out!"
Officer shoots multiple times
[Girlfriend]: "You just killed my boyfriend"
[PC (still alive, but mortally wounded)]: "I wasn't reaching!"
[Girlfriend]: "He wasn't reaching!"
[Officer (extreme yell)]: "DONT PULL IT OUT!"
[Girlfriend]: "He wasn't!"
[Officer (extreme yell)]: "DONT MOVE!"
[Girlfriend]: "He wasn't!"
According to Massab, here's the transcript:
[PC] "I have a gun."
[Officer]"Don't take it out"
[Officer (escalates)]: "Don't take it out!
[Officer (escalating more)] DONT TAKE IT OUT!"
Officer shoots multiple times
PC is dead
I'll leave you to decide if there is a substantive difference between Massab's telling and the dash cam's telling.
This is the same situation in Trayvon Martin's case. George Zimmerman didn't listen to the police officer And stayed put. Instead, he went and stalked Trayvon Martin and shot and killed him, and got away with it because the jury didn't hear the 911 tape. And Massab in a magazine article uses every excuse in the book To justify George Zimmerman's murder of Trayvon Martin. I don't listen to Any advice from Massab.
The fact that Massab is a longtime acquaintance of the cop’s defense attorney says everything you need to know about his ability to analyze this situation objectively.
@lukegpb177 The sad thing is. Massad is known for looking at these situations objectively.
It looks like he dropped the ball this time.
Yea, he’s just dead wrong on this one
@@Leslie-es5ij well, I still have plenty of respect for a boob, but my opinion of Massab did go down a bit
There was no marijuana in anyones system in car when they tested so that was a lie.
Great information
Glad it was helpful!
I enjoy your videos, and the down to earth step by step analysis.
Which is why I always say, "officer, I have a concealed carry permit and my weapon is in X location. How would you like me to proceed?" And then I do exactly what the officer says...
That was a sad story for all involved. I hope this can always be avoided in the future.
Yeah, It was really sad.
good analysis!
I love your videos thanks for all you do!!!! Huge fan
Many years ago, I think I read a book entitled FIREARMS AS A MARTIAL ART by Ayoob. I was taking guns into the woods since before I entered the first grade and I served in the US Army Special Forces, as did my father before me, so I am familiar with firearms and martial arts. There is yet much to be learned from the wisdom of the Master Ayoob.
Philandro Castille was my buddy's cousin. He was a good man. He didn't deserve to die.
Well unfortunately, that doesn't change the situation or make what the officer did any better or worse. Whatever happened, happened for certain reasons, and it wasn't because someone deserved to die or that anyone wanted to shoot anyone.
Sorry for your loss but he did 2 stupid things which cost him his lifle
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@@bbeen40being black and living in Minnesota seems to be a death sentence
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