I built a Gaming PC for my Nephew on AliExpress
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My nephew is in need of a new gaming PC, since his current rig is a 4th Gen i5 with integrated graphics. It's got to play any game at 1080P, run quiet, and of course look good, all while staying well under a $500 budget. And this time, I'm not going with a Chinese X99 Xeon...
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0:00 - Intro and Parts List
6:53 - Build Montage!
8:54 - The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
18:11 - Gaming Benchmarks
22:45 - Final Thoughts - Věda a technologie
These builds are fun. Cheap, new discounted, used, or "off the personal shelf" leftovers. Get an idea, walk out to the garage in sox, and pull out some parts, scratch your chin, roll up the sleeves and get to work.
That's not far off from what happened here :-)
That's the best comment I've read so far
Why is your nephew on aliexpress?
Don't be racist.
This one is so dumb that I spent 5 min laughing out loud
Then I checked the comments and saw that no one got the joke so I laughed even more 😂
@@10199e
The way he wrote the title of the Video implies the “On Ali Express” part is referring to the Nephew and not the gaming PC 😂
“I built a Gaming PC on Ali Express for my Nephew” should be the correct title
I love this comment.
😂😂😂😂
Cheap build are always more interesting than bank breaking builds
yea the best ones are searching ebay for several hours for some random dude selling something half the price of others. I could probably go work and make twice the amount of money I'm saving but it's way more fun just browsing through hundreds of pages of shit
@@gg-gn3re My sarcasm meter is confused on this one ...
Define the word "interesting"
Yes but also no
Love builds like these!
My local E-waste recycling center is my favorite place to get second hand computer hardware. Ebay is probably my 2nd choice but I've, by far, found and gotten much better deals from my local recycling center. I've gotten to many great items over time to list them all but the most recent items im especially happy with are sweet 4k wide screen monitor(about 4 or 5 years old i think) and a practically brand new still in the box 850w Seasonic semi-modular 80plus Gold power supply.
I got the monitor for about $80 and the PSU for $30 flat.
I was skeptical about the PSU at first, but was astonished when I realized it was essentially a clean unused power supply.
nice
I was very patient while scouring eBay for an IBM Model M keyboard. Found a listing where the guy didn't know what he had, and ended up with a 122-key Model M (listing did not say it was IBM) for $20. Cleaned it up and I've been using it ever since. The thing is an absolute tank.
@@Scarsuna ok THAT.. sir, is what I call a score!
I built my nephew a computer recently, and it brought me so much joy to be able to do that for them, since their grandpa got me mine at that same age. Thank god for ebay
You said nephew but then misused 'they' the entire rest of the post. I'm glad you got his computer set up though, sounds like a great starting point!
@@wolfblue9390 used they once lol, well thanks for the grammar lesson. Definitely why I posted under a tech CZcams channel .
@@tearlessgermy Well 'they' and similar, 4 times, since you want to quantify, just pointing it out since it's a very common error these days with people trying to twist how language is properly used! A single individual of known sex/gender cannot be a 'they'. I just point out problems when I see them. Glossing over them is how we got into this mess in the first place! Best of luck to you though!
@@tearlessgermy ignore that weirdo's advice, he has an agenda.
Love your approach of trying these components and giving us the pros and cons of those choices in practice. Really helps people judge value vs cost.
12:58 Very minor nitpick, but something worth mentioning:
DDR4 has multiple "official specs", or what we also call a JEDEC spec - These can go from DDR4-1600 all the way up to DDR4-3200. DDR4-2133 is what you might find on most memory sticks out there that have a XMP profile, or DDR4-2400 if you have higher-binned memory modules. JEDEC means that these speed/timing combinations have been confirmed to work and are programmed into the memory's SPD chip, which means that the user just has to put them in a compatible motherboard and turn on the computer and they will run at that speed. Anything that is NOT JEDEC is considered "overclocking".
That's why you can get ECC kits of DDR4-3200 CL22 - Because they're a JEDEC spec. A user can place these in a server and they are known to work, which means that any memory errors they might have to correct is not because of "overclocking", but only because of actual bit flips or something similar.
"the user just has to put them in a compatible motherboard and turn on the computer and they will run at that speed" 90% of the time that isn't true and it needs to select that clock profile in UEFI/BIOS
@@gg-gn3re Thats because ram kits for consumers all are expecting the user to set xmp/doct/expo, in servers (think ecc etc), if you buy 3200 mhz cl22 ram, it will be 3200 mhz cl22 assuming your cpu/mobo can work with it.
@@lookitsrain9552 no, if you buy that ram it'll have a profile for xmp etc for those clocks and you select the profile and it'll run there. It won't run there upon plugging it in... I see this in virtually every computer I've ever come across. Peoples ddr4 ram is running at 2133 and ddr3 at 800 or 1333 or w/e it was because they never went in and checked a checkbox.
@@gg-gn3re Try reading what i said.
@@lookitsrain9552 maybe you should learn to read before confusing yourself further. Your post isn't even relevant to what I initially said.
This easel for CPU is so cute.
Dude that came out sick! Aesthetically, knocked it out of the park. Don’t sweat the PSU miscalculation that’s a non factor when grading the success of this build. I hope your nephew knows how cool this is especially coming from you. GG Tio!
Absolutely delighted watching this budget friendly video Jeff, more like this! 👍
really cool build Jeff, props! That case looks especially decent value. Hope your nephew gets hours of fun from it 🙂
Great build and awesome choice of music for the build montage 😮
Thanks for the build. It's inspiring to see these older systems still performing well.
Wow great video and lighting! I know that is not easy. Thank you for the video and I’m looking for a video on making a cheap gaming computer.
I built my nephew again rig this year as well. I paid roughly around $650. I got a handful of used parts and a handful of new parts. Most notably a $80 5600x CPU. Asus X570-wifi tuf board. I threw it in a new Corair 4000d. But a used 980 pro 1tb. Got a deal on some teamgroup ram that was cheaper than ebay listings for dominator. The 5700xt was $150, $200 w/taxes and shipping. I think I bought thermalright fans.
Really appreciate you sharing warts and all. I know I tend to look at price first and deal with the lumps later.. but it's nice to know what some of them are ahead of time. It looks like between memory support and limited fan control (even setting aside the RGB stuff) the board itself is a hard pass. Thanks!
I like that build, looks good and that you make builds like that helps the rest of us.
I built my son a 3300x pc at one time and it's actually quite a beast considering it's only an r3 cpu. it's since been upgraded to an r7.
I've watched a few of your videos, but this is the one that got me to subscribe. While I don't think Starfield itself is actually that important, the fact that you were able to build a rig that runs it reasonably well at that price point is impressive and helpful for illustrating what you can do on a budget. That, and I too have a nephew who may be due for a budget gaming PC in the coming years and have been paying more attention to this sort of gaming-rigs-on-a-budget content.
I have a jginyue b550i-gaming motherboard I got off AliExpress for $60. I was able to over clock my memory to 3200 with only changing the options down to Tras. Left everything else on auto and it works perfect paired with an RTX 3070 and a 5700x. I didnt research the pricing for itx builds prior. Wasn’t really trying to spend $200 on a last gen board. Just like yours it doesn’t have rgb headers but it does have a usb-c header for the case
This is good to know cause I'm currently looking for a reliable b550 itx board so i can put together a small transportable gaming pc i can take places without the worrys of lugging around my main home pc.
Do you know how many VRM stages it has?
I've had pretty good luck with those silicon power nvme drives. Very good bang for the buck and they run cool.
Ordered the 1TB on Amazon last weekend...
Amazon: You've ordered this [13] times
How good is your luck? Because i myself am unhappy with my SSD which is a Samsung 870 QVO 1GB (SATA). the writes are slow, and they aren't just slow after a 50gig burst, they are just ALWAYS slow, and during writes the whole system slows down, looks like it also stops serving reads while it writes. It also fell off the bus every damn reboot before i updated both the drive firmware and a new mainboard firmware came out (b450), and now it only falls off the bus occasionally. although it's a QLC, it's got 1GB DRAM, so one would think it should have a more benign behaviour, not like this absolute piece of shit?
Next people recommend me i should buy a WD SN570 but also everyone complains about Steam game updates stalling down to 0mb/s (less than 20mb/s long term average) unless they disable the Windows write cache for that drive. WTF is that? Is this a unique flaw, do any other SSDs have that same issue? Does everyone experience this issue equally? Why does nobody talk about it?
Not sure the motherboard can do PCIe 4.0. This is from the link you gave ONDA B450S-W B450 Motherboard AMD AM4 For Ryzen 1/2/3/4/5 Gen & Athlon Processors DDR4 64GB PCI-E 3.0 16X SATA3.0 M.2 B450M. Notice the PCI-E 3.0 listed. As the board is a b450 and PCI-e 4.0 was only enabled on the b550 and x570 I think you might be mistaken.
under volt the gpu and you be ok, 57xt pulls alot
As for the memory, I understand that it doesn't have DOCP or the XMP equivalent, but does the motherboard not train the ram on first boot? You should be able to plug in the primary and secondary timings provided with the sticker on the memory, leave everything else on auto, reboot and be good to go. Just make sure to put the voltage at whatever is required, probably 1.35.
@@POVwithRC You know what's always an option? Brainfart, forgetting things, or running out of fiddling time.
That looks nicer than my system!! Well done!
You're an awesome uncle, that's for sure.
I love these kind of builds. Had to do one for my brother a while back because the Fx6300 just wasn't cutting it anymore and he was stealing my moms Laptop all the time. I used 100% used hardware because I told my mom I could do it for around 100€. It was not a gaming system and I actually did it for 96,5€ after selling the old MB/CPU combo. He now has a R5 3600x, 16gb ram on a b450 board, case and PSU from my stache of leftover Hardware, Hard drive, ssd, and gpu from the old system but came from my stache a while ago anyways. for about 150 more I could make it a gaming pc, 100ish if I just give him the other stronger psu from my pile of old Hardware but I wanna keep it.
honestly most of the 1pct and .1 pct low values being as low as they are is just the RAM running at 2133. If you were to take the time to tweek it up to 3600 cl 18 and its respected values the gaming performance would be impacted much more than you would expect. And coming from someone who has built dozens of Ryzen PC's over the last 5 years I can say I have experienced this first hand. But I really enjoyed the video and I appreciate the time you put into them.
I must agree about the choice of the RX 5700 XT. I currently have one on a MSI B450 board paired with a Ryzen 3600XT and 16GB of DDR4-3600. It performs well in slower-paced modern titles, returning 60+ fps at 1440p in (amongst others) Shadow of the Tomb Raider, RDR2, Diablo IV, Spider Man Remastered, Witcher 3 and Assassin's Creed Odyssey.
I really enjoy budget builds. Most of my recent gear is all retired gear that was "good enough" for what I needed it to do. But every so often I do a new build out to play games on and I usually set a $500 hard ceiling on building it. I haven't wandered into Chinese gear. But my next PC might go that way
I have had two of those Corsair CS series PSUs die on me with minimal loads on them, so good call on replacing it for more than the reason you gave. I'd honestly choose one of the no-name one from the dusty shelf at Best Buy before I'd buy one again, especially in a system for someone else that I need to provide support for.
Thanks for all you do here, Jeff. I just bought all the parts I needed to upgrade my home server and it's all your fault for making videos about the Tesla P4. :P
What OS are you running? Was that calculated into the price? Great video, as usual!
All OS are free so doesn't matter if he is running windows 11 pro or steam deck OS
Fun! That took some creativity 👍 these are my favorite kinds of projects. Still like my cheap xeons but mayyyybe AM4 will be the new budget hotness?
Love these build. Just so satisfying. RX 5700 XT at these prices is an absolute budget beast. Pretty much what the RX series has been for the past years! 🎉
Here in Germany, there are new, quality B450 boards with all the amenities on offer for 60€.
My 13 years old nephew got a 10400f and 3050 with 16gb ram.
cost me 300CAD$
Awesome content as per usual, 5700XT is a fantastic value card, sadly my XFX Thicc triple fan one died after just over 2 years of service, it artifacted like crazy...it would randomly cause jy drivers to be uninstalled up to 4 times a day, but then itd be fine for 3 weeks, very odd, sadly im in Europe so XFX wouldn't let me claim on the warranty as it's 2 years in the EU and 3 in the USA, massive shame, i replaced it with an ASUS 6650XT and I am extremely happy with it
did you overclock the card?
So glad to see, that he is not getting an Ali Express PSU for his Ali Express Build..
As much as you could argue that it’s not an “AliExpress PC” then.. this is more than relatable.
You don’t wanna cheap out on PSUs. It can burn your whole house down if you do.
There are programs allowing to read all those timings in windows. Or you van even go with ryzen dram calculator and tweak them for even more performance. All is easy and not time consuming.
The antlion mic is noticable side to side to studio mic footage but alone it is actually very hood for the form factor. Was there any post processing?
Nice build.
I got a 4th Gen i7 with a Z87 motherboard with 32GB of DDR3 RAM and a 500GB sata3 SSD and been running for a few years but without a graphics card and running it with integrated graphics. So I thought of giving this PC to my son for gaming. So with the most budget in mind, I got a used Zotac GTX 1080 Ti Extreme 8GB just for about $100 USD at my local internet used market, and bam it's a gaming PC with not much to spend. 😄
Some food for thought. YMMV
For $4 more, you could have bought a Cougar MX410 Mesh-G RGB case with 4 RGB fans from Newegg and saved the $32 you spent on the Antec fans. Then you could have bought a proper MB (like the ASRock B450M PRO4 R2.0) with an ARGB header and upgraded the PSU in the first place.
5:36 Holy crap I didn't know Soyo was still around. My first ever from scratch build used one of their motherboards.
Well done!
@CraftComputing
Jeff, I personally would have done red lighting, but that just my taste. Excellent built!
i have the soyo a520m Dragon and it doesn't have MOST of problems that's that one has, i say most because it only has two pwm fan plugs and with my 5600x at default settings the vrm gets hot, it dose have ram profiles tho
Built a PC with a 2600X, B450M, 16GB 3600MHZ, and an RX 5700XT for 270$. Best part is that was still enough for a 600w bronze PSU, and a white dual chamber case with white cable sleeves to complete the aesthetic. Built using only new/refurbished parts on AliExpress.
rip shouldve picked like 3600x
tf are you talking about? @@obamabinladen-de7rt
That sounds like a really good choice of parts for your type of build, however i would avoid Aliexpress at all costs, you either hit the target, or miss it & end up getting scammed
@@xXVibrantSnowXx They have 5 day delivery and free NQA returns within 2 weeks where I’m at. It’s also very obvious if it’s a scam since it tells you how many have been sold. I only ever buy something if it has already got over 1000 bought
@@obamabinladen-de7rt can’t get that for 270£
This was interesting, and while my comment be super late, I'm curious. Was Tiny Tina's being run in DX 12 mode? Because in my experience, using a Ryzen 5500 and an RX 6600XT, DX12 just kills frame timings, leading to horrible stuttering no matter what.
There's software to read the RAM's SPD.
@craftcomputing, you really should put an affiliate link for that sexy screwdriver ;P
Jeff: Gamedevs, do some compression
New MW3: 230GB INITIAL DOWNLOAD
20:46 .
You must have recorded this before Cities skylines 2 released xD
A Starborn attacks New Atlantis and also a Terramorph outbreaks happens there. That's just 2 examples of combat happening in Atlantis and I haven't even finished the game.
Building this must have been so fun
I wish I had the opportunity to build as many computers as you get. Ha. It’s so much fun
Are you happy with that intake vs CPU fan orientation?
Good Video, but tbh i think its a great mistake to not be tinkering a bit more with with the ram get them to run 3200mhz or even better 3600mhz, ive just read the document on the motherboard and this should be possible read from ondas own homepage it has a pdf to set it up manuel, as id say that would give an significant boost, and as we all know those amd chips likes to run at that speed, and im not totally sure i would change the psu it still got 50 watt to spare during test
Idea for next build. Since the merge Rx 4/580 8 GB are cheap as dirt on ebay, as in under $50 shipped. With a $30 Xeon and M.2 X99 a sub $200 gaming system might be possible. Let's see if we can make Starfield playable as cheaply as possible. If not SF, see what games it can play.
....way ahead of you on this concept. Stay tuned.
I have heard that there are gpus that that pulled from laptops and you can put in a desktop..but i have not seen it on Aliexpress
PSU: 600w 80plus Gold from Lenovo workstation (like S30 model). New old stock is 20-30. Solid choice.
that sponsor actually had a good sounding mic
I wish I had an uncle like you
TBH I was kinda expecting one of those oddball laptop cpu in a desktop mobo to get picked. The only reason I can think of not to get em is the limited PCIE slot, but the mobo here has the same limitation (also 1 slot). So I'm kinda wondering why an older, slower 3300X was picked instead
Could you please advise what you would use to build around 1 K US gaming system?
Hindsight is 20/20. Can you share the mobo that you would have rather used for this build?
Would likely go with the AsRock B450m/AC: amzn.to/45S95Qs
But did you test the e5 2697v3 with turbo boost unlock?
So in hindsight what motherboard should you have used?
No x79 Xeon?! Jeff I know it hurts, but its good to move beyond DDR3 in your systems. Proud of you for your growth.
Unless you get hand me down parts for free, this is the range where an OEM pc is just going to be a better value.
Those viper 4 blackout sticks are likely B die, so plugging in 3200 14-14-14-38 and letting all subtimings go auto is at least worth a try imo
Thaiphoon Burner can read the DIMMs and get you all the XMP timings
God bless you Jeff for testing all the weird chinese motherboards out there so we don't have to...
Agreed. This one is clearly a 'nope!" brought to us by the department of false economies. There must be a usage case, it's just that '"1080p gaming PC" isn't it.
I totally agree on your stance against risking unstability from trying to squeeze a tiny bit more of the RAM. I personally did not have a lot of luck pushing any kind of chinese motherboards to the limit of the supported memory frequency. This was specially bad with some Erying with laptop CPUs that I purchased out of curiosity having seen a video in your channel.
However... I must say that saying that the recommended speed for a Zen 2 Ryzen 3000 is 3600MT/s is a bit far fetched. I would say that is in the upper limit you can aim for in a daisy chain motherboard with 1DPC and normal luck in the silicon lottery, and probably messing a bit with the SoC voltage. I would say 3600MT/s is only more or less warranted on Zen 3 (5000) CPUs. And in this latter case, 3800 or even 4000 are achievable, but specially the latter it depends on your IMC.
I liked the video and the content. I personally think the title is a bit misleading, because about half of the parts are brand new and from amazon, according to your affiliate links and some comments in the video about the RAM for example. Despite some chinese parts, IMO this does not fit the name "Aliexpress PC" or "on Aliexpress" for the most part.
One (important) thing to note about the power supply: the 380W that was being pulled under load was from the wall and not what the power supply itself was delivering. Assuming a power supply efficiency of around 80%, the actual amount the power supply had to deliver was in the region of 300-310W which is well under the 430W it's rated for.
It makes perfect sense that would be actual amount being pulled as in stock form the RX 5700 XT draws 225W under full load, and the 3300X 65W. Add a dozen watts for the fans and SSD and there you go. In short, the power supply was just fine and even left a decent amount of headroom.
Also, there's no reason why you should've left the memory at a paltry 2133. If you didn't want to go through the hassle of manually tuning timings you could've just manually set the clock speed to 3200 or 3600 and left the timings on auto and what the motherboard would do is automatically set the timings to JEDEC spec. Alternatively, you could have taken 5 mins to look at the memory specs and manually put in only the primary timings according to spec and left all the secondaries on auto. That is very little effort for a good amount of extra performance in games that are CPU and/or memory-bandwidth limited. Not your finest work, I must say.
I considered this, but it's not even an 80+ supply, and is easily 7 years old. I'd rather err on the side of getting him something that works.
@@CraftComputing
That's fair. Components like the capacitors age and degrade as they accumulate power on hours and are not able to handle as much as before. So in reality if the power supply got a fair amount of use it would probably be able to handle something more like 380-400W reliably.
You *really* should not have left the RAM at 2133, though. There would be zero worries about instability setting the clocks manually to 3200 and leaving the rest on Auto so it runs at JEDEC spec. 3200 CL22 is still way faster than 2133 CL15.
Thank you for this video. What AGESA using this MoBo? Asking becouse pcie4 was only on beta bioses with old AGESA on non 5хх boards and was disabled in actual versions. So or AGESA is old beta (and thats why there is RAM speed problems) or pcie4 is a marketing fake and pcie is not working in mode 4. Its simple to check using gpu-z:)
P.S. All futages with board there is no vrm radiator, but at the end in case - there is one on the left part of vrm
Nice job on this well balanced computer for the $$. :)
hey so like i've had two modmics and both of them broke so what's up with that
The cheap fans with hub RGB and speed control just make life easier when dealing with Chinese motherboards. Of course it’s not “ideal” but I haven’t had issues with them and having them all locked at one speed that can move enough air to keep the temps low is fine. As long as the CPU fan can be controlled I’m fine with it
that GPU is a steal...
its definitely time to move on from x99.... motherboards are becoming pricy to get and stuff like ryzen 2700/3700 will give you all you need in mutlithreaded usage aswell, or get a 2600/3600/5500/3300x if you care about gaming, it will be miles better and carry a gpu couple tiers above what the xeons can. old b350/b450/a320 boards used can be dirt cheap and they all can boot any ryzen cpu fine (dont get A series + 2000 non-x like me or you have no OC nor no PBO so its locked to stock clocks)
I hoped this was with one of the erying boards!
Hi!! My xeon 2690v2 usually kicks my Ryzen2600x in most tests. In Cinebench R23 Xeon-7500pts Ryzen-5500 for example?? is that normal??
Haven't you destroyed the Infinity fabric sync running that slow ?
No, Ryzen 3000 and up decoupled the infinity fabric speed from the RAM clock.
on intel boards in the past using regular green pcb ram i would set my memory speed and the first four timings manually (example: 1600mhz 9,9,9,24) and leave the rest on auto and would still get better results then if i had left it at stock. And i did this on first gen ryzen with a 2133mhz kit getting it to 2666mhz but i can remember timings. you dont need to know all the timings to get a small boost out of the ram.
edit: i didnt watch whole thing sorry. I agree not to do this giving it to a kid that doesnt have a clue.
I'm in Oregon. What e-cycle do you buy used parts from?
Garten is pretty close by. There are more options in the Portland and Eugene metros too.
@@CraftComputing do you use Free Geek much?
Or you could use typhoon burner and ryzen dran calculator to find the settings...
The R5 3600 more than often goes for $60,I would hàve gone with that instead of the 3300x,and stuck with the stock cooler then go for an OEM case + a $10 acrylic side panel,n use the extra $20 for some red n white extension cables,that said awesome build for 1080p though allan wake would be a no go zone with the 5700xt,maybe a used 6600xt would fare better?I dont know,nway awesome build n yes AM4 interms of price to performance beats any xeon or previous gen intel chips
Probably 1000th comment about the same: what if you set Memory overclock to 3600, but leave all other settings at "Auto"? That is how it is supposed to work after all, those are then fetched from SPD and scaled accordingly.
Wait. Since when does any B450 board support PCIe Gen 4? Only B550 and X570 support those AFAIK.
The video is nice, the system looks nice, building is ok, the mobo is possible the worst b450 under the sun. Cheers.
"every amenity that you need" ... except a cr2032. LOL!!
or RGB
or XMP
or working fan controllers😭
I get the experimentation angle, but for me at least, that all goes right out the window when it comes to machines built for family or friends.
Also, I despise throwing money at not-good enough equipment, which is something you wind up doing a lot when you experiment on. I personally would not deploy that system to anyone except as a gag or a troubleshooting exercise.
For family & friends, machines get built like I'm never going to be able to see or touch them again, so they need to simply work. That rules out that motherboard and the PSU right away.
You can get an ASRock B540 board for within $10 of that price, with an actually useful BIOS (I found one for $2 more), and something that'll have the BIOS support (if not necessarily the VRM cooling) to handle a faster AM4 CPU upgrade later.
The PSU, well, you covered that.
I would put another $100-$120 towards this, replacing the Motherboard, PSU and putting in a 5600g. Versus an R3, an R5 is just so much smoother in day to day use even without the IPC improvements, plus the stock cooler is more than adequate. That and ditching all the RGB, even though the better board would actually support it.
While I wouldn't want the 5700XT, the reality of GPU pricing means yeah, you're pretty much stuck there unless you want to chuck in basically another $100 for something newer/faster.
idk if the situation in the US is that different, but here in the EU, i'm still able to buy new in-stock AM4 B450 Mainbaords from the big manufacturers, prices starting at 52,90€ and up. the Asus Prime B450M-K II has 2x4pin fan headers and can OC memory up to 4400MHz, why gamble on a more expensive incomplete board from aliexpress?
AMD is no longer supporting the 5700XT with drivers but only for security patches.
Nice build but some of us do not want to deal with any used parts as the return hassles greatly outweigh the savings.
Could have definitely trimmed the budget of this build even further as you spent way too much on the cpu cooler and fans. Still a cool build
@CraftComputing it's not a "ODNA", it's a "ONDA"...
Great video. I’m sure he is going to love that system. Two comments: 1. In Starfield, two of the most demanding frame rate killing action/combat segments happen in New Atlantis. That’s going to be a problem and 2. Starfield already lost its Crysis crown to Alan Wake 2. Hardware unboxed did a video on the 5700xt and 2060rtx running AW2 and the 5700xt really isn’t powerful enough.
Cities Skylines 2 wants a word
@@CraftComputing and an arm. and a kidney. and anything else it can get. and will still run slow :P
No XMP support? Ouch...
Good luck trying to get memory running stable at 3600 on an AMD platform. 😄😁
Even on better mobos.
I spend weeks tuning and tweaking and never got 3600mhz stable on my amd platform. Max I got out of it was 3466mhz stable with slightly relaxed timings.
This was on an Asrock B550 pro 4.
Tried it with both a Ryzen 3300x and a 5600x.
Tried it with 2x8GB Corsair Dominator sticks and 4x8GB GSkill Trident Z, all sticks AMD approved and rated 3600 cl16-19-19-39.
Basically, all the components were a good fit except for the graphics card. Tried to save power on the 65watt tdp cpu but made an error with choosing the right graphics card. The 5700xt does outperform some of the 6000 amd gpu but the power draw was horrid. It is what made me decide to skip that generation of graphics card plus buying new psu and do my budget build with the 6000 cards.
The AliExpress stuff is fascinating, but like you said, there's a difference between handing someone a working PC and handing them a project. I haven't ever purchased anything off AliExpress for exactly that reason.
Also, is this really what a typical kid's gaming PC looks like these days? 5 case fans and RGB. Makes me feel old. 😅