2020 Honda Fireblade SP vs RSV41100 | Superbike Shootout!!
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- čas přidán 30. 10. 2020
- There is an all new 2020 Honda Fireblade in town so its only right we compare it to our winner last time out the 2020 RSV41100 Factory. So the question is which one is the best!
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With the ecu unlocked the CBR will be a maniac unleashed, I recon.
The CBR makes similar peak power but needs to be kept on the boil to be real fast as the power band is R6-like in nature, almost 2 stroke like, goes from nothing to insanity... 214 hp is nothing to sneeze at for sure, and the weight difference between the 2 is a few lbs… I know top end high speed drag races the CBR is a bit faster, and on the track it’s also quite a bit faster… that probably has more to do with gearing though, that’s both bikes being unlocked…
For some reason unlocking the ecu screws the ecu up? =lose traction control, wheelie control abs . Source Brent tune video on you tube .Has a massive over heating problem , ecu burning up Hondas big mistake
@@jake88ciI believe that issue has been resolved now. It was a really hard ecu to crack. The fireblade is definitely faster but it’s so hard to beat that Moto gp aprilia sound. Since I ride more on highway and interstate roads, the fireblade would probably be more suited for me as I could open it up.
I mean, give the rsv4 a gabro tune, I don’t think a tuned fireblade can hang
The Pirate’s choice of motorcycle CBR1000RR-RR-RRRR-RRRRRR
Those bloody permanently running indicators though....FFS
Really like the guest presenter, he’s smart and to the point.
when i see my 2 dream bikes in 1 frame
*INSTENSE CLICKING THE THUMBNAIL*
Love these reviews - best bike reviews on the net! Amazing!
The double act on this type of review is spot on Chops! Great work on the channel as usual. I think the new Honda is absolutely mint looking and the sound is truly awesome. Totally nuts! The quality is evident everywhere you look on it.Though, I'm an RSV fan and that bike is simply awesome. The soundtrack from the RSV is there right from tickover. And it's got more go lower down. Both great bikes and I'd be happy as Larry with either of them.
Thanks Solivg appreciated buddy 👍
Can’t beat the MotoGP sound of the Aprilia!
You two work well together. Enjoy this format of video guys. Lovely job 👍
Great review again Chops 😊👍.l must admit that I personally think that is probably the best looking blade that Honda has made for a while. The Aprillia is still a work of art though.
Great review / comparison- you 2 work well together - very watchable, top marks !
So, what you are saying is I should buy both? Duly noted haha.
Thanks for the video, chopsy, this format is absolutely great!
Haha thanks Rutger! 👍
Great format. Your channel keeps getting better!
Roll on 100k subs...
Great review. Love the format, more of these please.
Thanks matey 👍
So great review, and thank you so much for offering 4k 60 fps quality image👌 Greetings from Paris🤙
Great vid. Really enjoy you guys doing these comparisons & endless entertaining possibilities!! Although I think some more real world affordable comparisons would be great too if poss.
Great vid as usual really enjoy these head to head tests
Glad you like them!
That Honda sounds incredible for a stock Japanese bike
I know, I can’t believe I am saying this but I think it sounds better than the Aprilia
Because it comes with an akrapovic exhaust system as stock, which makes it damn awesome!
@@juanvargas3475 the cbr Sounds Amazing i am a Cbr driver,and yes the new sounds incredible good.But lets be onest the Aprilia is the only one that sound better than any Bike in the World.Nothing commes close to the GP Sound as a Aprilia.I try the rsv4 in Stock and eaven on Track with a full System.I mean thas mind blowing.I have ride a lot of diffrend Bikes on Track soundwise is nothin close to the RSV4.
@@johnnyblaze1372 CBX 1050, r6/600RR with toce, s1000RR with sc project???
@@rabidev.4938 no, not a chance.
Just wanted to say I really appreciate your content. You're thoughtful, thorough and a little crazy sometimes on these machines =). Also, as a motorcycle lover I'm jealous of all the bikes you get to test. Keep up the good work Chopsy, every upload you create makes my day better. PS: I am an American and want to visit the UK (when covid crisis is over). Where should I go for a good bike rental and what cities have you fallen in love with in terms of riding?
Loving the comparison videos chopsy when we are out of the pandemic we need a tour with you gregg and womble!
Great video fantastic bikes stay safe looking forward to next one 🇬🇧👍🏻
Good reviews, roll on test really damming, would agree with the few bikes for that price policy.
Great vid guys, both real nice bikes...
Really like this friend of yours!! Excellent points he makes. You guys did excellent!!! Very entertaining!! Love the Japanese Pagoda!!
Really like these comparison videos, and the crack between the two of you, your smashing it chopsy
Thanks Simon
As usual excellent review, keep up the good work, ridesafe.
Thanks colin and same to you 👍
Whenever you talked about the Fireblade's engine characteristics, I'd swear that you were describing my old R6 🤔 It's like a 1000cc supersport.
Thorough review as usual guys 👍🏼
Yup totally agree with you.. My old CBR 600 to a T!
Love these shootout outs John, fantastic real world insight and scoring method most would use in their noggin, unbeknownst maybe, before purchase? Greg is worth keeping for sure, great insight and knowledge. Good job as always John!
Thanks Mark 👍
Another brilliant review, an idea for next time do it as a secret ballet so neither can influence the others score 🤔
Enjoying the two handers Chopsie, great content
Loving the new assessment method for the man in the street bike.Keep it up.Thks JHB-SA.
Choperoo and the G man strike again, well done men I knew I could relay on you to come up with a very entertaining but interesting review, good work great to see the dynamic duo racing down the tarmac to save mankind from covid boredom.
Haha thanks Colin 👍
BMW S1000RR and the GSXR1000R for me both fantastic sport bikes for the road! Comfortable with lots of power and torque through the entire rev range!
Already watched the full length vid on Patreon...loved it, thanks Chopsy. The low down grunt would win it for me being a road rider.
Thanks James 👍
Great vid.
This was a most excellent video!
Watching two kids in a candy shop!
I purchased a Tuono Factory this summer based partially on your review.... Having said that I did a bunch of test rides and research on my own. My other bike is an '89 CBR 600 and it sounds like Honda power delivery hasn't changed in decades, lol! It's a total Jeckle and Hyde around 6000RPM... As for the technology well there's carbs vs EFI and then some. All said and done, it sounds like I need to save up for the RRR, damn it!🤣
Well that was fun Chopsy. I always value your real world tests. Still can't afford new but the 19--21's are finally doable. Cheers.
In my opinion, the blade sounds like a louder 954.
But the Aprilla has it any day any time for me.
Bloody marvellous.... many thanks chops. Cracking work. 👍👍
Thanks mate 👍👍😁
@@LambChopRides all very local to me, hopefully we’ll cross paths at some point and I’ll get you a bacon roll and a tea in a styrofoam cup. 👍👍 Stay safe and rubber down.
Thanks matey! What bike you got? Will lookout for you
@@LambChopRides 2005 ZX10-R C2, in black. 👍👍
Ok will keep my eyes peeled 👍
You hit the nail on the head when you said about the blades flatness in low revs being great in town to keep speed down. I’m pretty sure that Honda thought about this and noticed it themselves (who develops a bike as well as Honda?!! ) If are out on the fast roads going for it , you keep it in the revs!!! Simple. I would see it as a bonus.
Great review Guys. I think it will be the Aprilia for me next year. It will be my last sports bike as I am 52 and they are getting harder to get comfortable on. Have you thought about comparing First versions Sports bikes against their latest incarnations ?
Great review lads thanks .aprila for me thanks looks great has everything u need.
Yet another entertaining review. Well done from the pair of you. Still have no idea who "John" is 😄 LCR you need to give Greg an alias! 😄 I can watch your reviews, or whatever you put on your channel, any time of the day,with whoever is in the room. Quality, and you don't need to be offensive to get your point across. As some others do. Brilliant guys! Keep you score cards to look back on!
Thanks matey appreciate the kind words really do 👍
Really like the double act, two mates talking bikes - slightly different views which builds a better picture of the bikes. For me though as the handling on the top bikes is way better than you can use on the road, it comes down to power usability, sound, some comfort and then looks - in that order, the Aprilia with it's midrange and perfect sound would get my money.
To put this into perspective though, in the latter half of 2006 we were selling the fabulous GSXR1000K6 for 6k on the road !!!!!!!
Nice vid!
I hear another lockdown for the the U.K. - maybe some garage time on the Hypermotard?? Great review format - keep it going.
Yes you're right Paul it is 😫 until my cylinders arrive I'm afraid I'm stuck and cannot continue with the Hyper build
I love these shootouts! I would like you to do a S1000XR vs. Multistrada 1260S in the same format.
Awesome lads 🔥
Thanks 😁😁😁
Is there an aftermarket fix for the blade to stop the indicators being permanently on?
Did they change the rake angle for the front end on the Honda between the sc77 and current sc82 models?
What helmet cam are you using? I'm looking to get something for my trundles in the kiwi countryside.
Great video as always. Would like to see a comparison of the new Aprilia 660 sports bike and the Yamaha R6.
I remember not that long ago Kawasaki getting a hard time on most tests for the 10R needing revs and having long gearing. Looks like Honda have pulled the same trick but most people don't seem to be giving it the hard time for some reason. Good to see you guys kept it honest.
I get why they do it - if you want a track gearbox you want a long first and very close ratio's after that then they just up the final with sprockets to make it a road bike. I find it really irritating on a road though. Just as you come out of a corner at a lowish speed and want it to just grunt it won't and you sit there with grip to spare waiting for it to wake up. Then by the time it does wake up you're back in a corner and so it goes on.
Fun road bikes don't benefit from that kind of gearing optimisation so Honda saying its a track bike is either fair enough or a cop out depending on how you see it.
Personally I hated it when 600's turned into rev boxes but thats worse on a thou.
Love the test card 😂
Another good comparison video Lamb Chop.
Hi guys
another great video love to see the RSV4 against the V4s or how do you thing it would compaire
done the bm and the honda next should be ducati v4s what do you think
Yes absolutely will get that sorted in the Spring 👍
Love this format - engaging, insightful and objective
Thanks Jamie 👍👍
For me the blade wins the beauty contest but by a whisker as they are both fantastic bikes. Really enjoyed watching this along with the other reviews you have done. Thanks
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Thanks Glen 👍
Good review chopsy, we wait for your review on the new bmw 1000rr
Took a shot every time wrists was mentioned, I can’t walk.
Haha 😂
Thankyou 'Wheels Motorcycles!!!' 😅
Really enjoying the developing working relationship between you two, but, FGS give Gregg/Carol a nickname, Chopsie & Gregg makes him sound like 'Karen' from FB 🤣
Keep up the great work, love the editing & intro 💪👌👍
Did u try keeping it in 1st instead, for regular street riding.
Good review. Nice to see something different from the usual magazines 44t etc. Not that they’re bad but great to see a ‘normal’ review too. Bikes are all gone expensive though so value is relative. I suppose you can start comparing by how much they cost on pcp coz that’s what’s driven the price up and that’s how most bikes will be bought now so people don’t really care about the final price. Cars went the same way didn’t they
I think the question is wether you can live with the characteristics of the Blade. It sounds like too much of a compromise for a road bike. I do think the new Blade is more desirable but if I was shopping I’d buy a pre reg/demo RSV4, have a bit more comfort and that soundtrack. Maybe the Honda would help me keep the licence a bit longer.. 🤷♂️ Both are stunning.. ❤️
Fireblade looks really sexy. Best damn looking current sportbike❤
normally im all about those mv agustas but something abou tthat honda noise is so great to my ears
Greg and John, are to dual bike reviews, are what Baron and Alastair are to BBB adventures. MUST SEE TV!!! Content is incredible Chops!! Keep it up Greg, kudos to you as well, enjoy what you’ve brought to the table👍🏻🔝🎥🎬🆒
Very kind of you to say Mr Grey 👍👍
Is the Fireblade flatter down the bottom than the Panigale V2 is? Or is it just flat at the bottom compared to a v4? I ask because I own a v2 and find it flat below 6k and know you recently had one on loan
Think its actually flatter than the V2 Phill, the bike is really high geared so the fix would be drop a tooth on the front sprocket.. maybe even a couple up at the rear too! Saw online they are geared for over 200 mph which is crazy when restricted to 186mph anyway!
@@LambChopRides wow... ok, because the v2 suffers around 4500rpm with a euro5 torque dip that’s frustrating when you own it, can’t imagine buying a fireblade and it being worse.. eek...
Another cracking vid LC,unrelated what back pack set up are you using for your insta360?
There is a link in the description 👍
Chops - we all know you want the RSV! And so do i ;)
If videos had a love button instead of like I'd of clicked it. Another awesome video, bringing me closer to buying some LCR merchandise. Fair play, you've ruined my youtubing experience and made all other bike review channels feel like there lacking something.
Thanks very much Mamb 👍👍💯💪
That sound of the RSV4 is 👌 I must say !!
Will be interesting to see if a tune (map, exhaust etc) puts some needed mid range in the Honda.
Cbr😍🔥
What riding modes does the blade have
2021 Honda 1000 Fireblade SP vs Kawasaki H2R | Superbike Shootout Running!!
2160P amazing 🤩
Great vid chaps,can you do a Super Duke v 890 Duke?I saw the 890 hiding in the background and as a 790 owner thinking of upgrading is the Super Duke really worth the massive premium over the 890?
We did have both and planned to record back in September but KTM had to pull the 890 as they needed it for a photoshoot 😫 hope to do it next year now
On fly bys I actually preferred the Blade 👌🏻
If I sold both my cars and my AT......I still couldn't afford the new blade. Gutted. Amazing vid as always 👌
Yeah it's some 🤑🤑 isnt it!
Great review,but,how much of the electronics working smoother down low had something to do with the lack of power being applied,personally I want a bike on the street to accelerate down low for safety reasons,help keep getting driven over from behind.I test road theRSV4 again kept it for 6 hours,I’m down 30lbs from first test ride but feel like I need another 30-40lbs to be all day comfortable on it.That would bring me to 260-270lbs which is really lean for my body mass at 6’6” but at $18,499 in the states for that bike is hard to pass up.🏍💯👍🍻.
Great review chops. What’s with the frying pan on the floor?
Haha well spotted 👍
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Probably one of the best 30 minutes spend on CZcams looking for something to fill the motorcycle craving hole when one can't go for a ride!! Super confident as usual for me it would be RSV4 but on looks alone I have to give it to the Fireblade especially in this paint job!!
I'm sad that you sold your GSXR1000R cause I would love to see all the "big buck" bikes being compared to an average Jo affordable pride and joy with some add ons!! And Your GSXR1000R was a perfect example what one should spend the save money over the newest and greatest (but very expensive) new line of Superbikes! Cause I recon one can pick a brand new GSXR1000R and with the money saived you go exhaust ecu remapping rear shock and carbon wheels and still you would have some money left!
Thanks matey appreciated 👍👍 yeah my old GSXR would have been great to test against these
@@LambChopRides I know that you did a very extensive coverage of the GSXR1000R but apparently the 2020 model has some some front brake upgrades so you can squeeze a qick ride review of the affordable 1000cc sport bike? A qick rundown of the cheepest opinion of the 1000cc squad? Basick ZX10R R1 Fireblade and GSXR1000/R pretty please cause it is lovely to see all the new bikes but well lets face it especially this days not many people can put donw over 20 large for a new Toy plus once you do U are to scared to use it propaly! And if you go PCP route well 3-4K miles per year it's just not worth having a bike.
Wow, Chopsy goes Fireblade 😎finally! Good choice sir, it does look and sound quality. I do wonder how the professional race teams get them off the line quickly at the start of a race due to their lack of low down grunt? The RSV4 left the blade for dead on your roll on tests.
Flat, flat flat 😉. Oh! And I still want a LCR tee shirt with that on by the way😁
To launch quickly you would need to rev the bike to 8k then feather the clutch out. That way you avoid the flat spot 😁
Can the Honda's performance be modified in the settings to pick up earlier?
Nope it was running in full power mode. Gearing change would really help it lower down
@@LambChopRides cool, enjoyed the vid
@@LambChopRides So the less than full power modes have even less down low down?
great team between the two of you. I pissed myself watching the rolling start in third gear. The CBR may as well have been a scooter
I have a 2021 rrrr Fireblade it is definitely a bike on the next level
Cannot wait for the new ZX10R comparison with RSV4
I think the fire blade sounds really good just different from the Italians
With all the might of HRC, why did they not make the blade a V4? It’s not like they haven’t done it before. It still sounds amazing. Funny to think that a straight four at full chat should sound nostalgic.
They wouldn't call it a fireblade itd be a vfr. The defining characteristic of the fireblade is the engine type. VTR1000 was v twin r . Vfr is v four r. Cbr is a cb (typically a parallel motor) r. Old vt500 came in c and f. V twin 500 cruiser. V twin 500 faired. V twin 500 ascot. Honda is really easy to understand their naming system its like bmw but they actually stick to their own rules.
A V4 1000cc wouldn't be a Blade - there have been so many rumours and false dawns about a possible RVF 1000 but alas they are still a distant dream.
It's funny but I still prefer the noise of a screaming inline 4 cylinder........they just sound fast.
@@deanharris9331 i 100 percent agree. Our at least like them both a lot. But normal 4 cylinder engines more
The Blade is over the top on pricing and for performance Honda always seem to leave something on the table but Honda has always been soft on performance across the brand JMO , I guess it’s called warranty protection
The Blade has 215 hp, that’s not exactly leaving anything on the table… it’s a street legal track rig that humiliates R1’s…
Aprilia for me i love it more than just the sound of that V4
Am I alone thinking a proper straight 4 (this blade) sounds better than a V4?
I have the impression that both of your hearts lean toward the Honda !!!
Another great double act review 👍. Need to review a street triple RS v KTM Duke 890R. Has Greg got an 890?? 🏍️
Yes hes got the 890R, loves it!
44teeth already done that test.
Thanks Frank, already watched it but I'd like to see what chops & Greg think especially with Greg owning one & I'm sure he use to own a street???
Visually the Blade looks better IMO, the RSV paint job doesn't do it justice. Having had a Blade in the 90s I'd probably choose that over the Aprilla because you can ride it sensibly and of course the reliability reputation of the Honda when you're spending that much money has to figure in there somewhere? Nice one chopsey I enjoyed that even though in reality I'll never have either 👍
Can’t believe the difference in both on the runs 👀
before I die I want to see the Fireblade V4, I like Honda but I love Aprilia RSv4
Chops..is it possible to do a zx10rr and blade comparison? Seems to me they're more similar in engine characteristics. Enjoy this vid format...
Yes maybe next year 👍👍
I totally agree with the cruise control in 30’s it’s where it is perfect. KTM has the same deal with needing to be in 3rd which is annoying.