New Speed Triple RS Or 2021 Tuono V4? | Ultimate Back to Back Comparison
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- The new Triumph Speed Triple RS is new for 2021 but how does it compare to the Daddy of the super nakeds the Aprilia Tuono V4?? We take both out back to back to find out which one is the BEST!
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Tuono, that V4 is something special
Fuckin A
@@Miata822 is this from experience?
So is that price tag 😆
No question, the Tuono V4 all day.👍👍👍👍🇬🇧
As a speed owner and big triumph fan, I’ll take the aprillia keys, I just can’t get with the new styling, the aprillia is beautiful 😍
I just picked up a ‘20 Tuono V4 1100 Factory and I’m loving it!
Why not the 21
@@heibaimao I got a good deal on the ‘20 and I liked the colors and styling more then the ‘21.
@@PezRacer fair enough
Owing a Tuono V4 Factory for over 2 years now. Seriously thinking to change for another bike, just for the sake of having a new toy. At the end, it will be a new 2022 Tuono. There is just nothing that comes close to that V4 power-plant and the chasis that puts so much confidence every time you trash it harder 🥰
A win for the RS, except for the headlights!... and that V4 motor... so actually the Tuono. I think! 😅
For me the headlight of the RS is gorgeous.
Speed Triple for me. Triumph are on a real roll at the moment. Performance, handling, quality, reliability, look are all spot on. That's not to say that the other offerings are not lovely too, but for me the Triumph offers the most complete package.
reliability?dont think so mate
@@MrHappy-oq7ot Not to mention the infotainment and phone integration is a dumpster fire. Even Triumph’s factory infotainment engineering team couldn’t figure it out.
Bought the Triumph in april this year and now has 8000km on it with 80/20 road/ track riding. Worked perfectly!
@@MrHappy-oq7ot Maybe not compared to Nippon Standards, but when compared to a Italian crap 🤔
Great vid. Really enjoy these comparisons & the return of the Greg! It's the Aprilia for me every time. It seems more of an emotionally rewarding & fun ride.
Yip, Triumphs a stunning bike, but the Tuono is soul moving!👹🕺🏼
@@ricardoedwardo5799 Yep perfectly put.
Aprilia's V4 makes a noise that justifies buying it for the soundtrack alone.
Rode both, Tuono hands down.
Reasons?
@@heibaimao bc he said so bro lol
@@bchandy98 lol
Psht
@@heibaimao Engine, handling, finish, electronics, track days.
This concept of comparing the two bikes on test is a real winner.Love the chilled manner in which they are discussed.Excellent,thank you.
Thanks Bruce 👍
Loved that vid chaps - no crap just a couple of knowledgeable bike enthusiasts telling us how it is - beautifully put together and edited too John - I tip my cap to you sir! I agree, super nakeds are brill at the moment - as much as I like them all, it's still the Ducati Streetfighter for me (what a bike!!)!....
Completely agree with you Andy, It's the lovely Streetfighter for me too despite costing a fair bit more than these 2. Don't forget the 2021 Streetfighter has been retuned for max torque 2,000 rpm lower in the rev range so it should be even better now on the street.
Thanks Andy appreciated buddy! Yes need to chat to Ducati try and add Greg to thier insurance see if we can make it happen.. I only had it for the weekend so keen to try it for longer next time too 👍
@@fyorbane Still gets walked by the Tuono and Superduke until it gets on the pipe lol
From the guy who keeps telling us that we don’t need more than 100bhp on the road.. 😉
Most people I talk to say you really don’t need more then 100 hp on the road but when push comes to shove they 9 out of 10 times have a bike with a lot more than that! I have a 2016 GSXS-1000 done a bunch of mods on it over the going on 5 years I have owned her, but I was just watching MCN looking at Suzuki’s moded team Katana 200 + BHP and dreaming of it production! i had a Honda 150 cc bike most of the time in Thailand but I did buy a bigger bike after awhile there to had core fans of super naked if they are honest always want more! It’s never enough!
Love my Speed Triple 1200! I’ve put 8000km on it since April and it works flawlessly. Best bike I’ve ever had and perfect for my kind of riding which is mostly street with around 3-5 trackdays per season. Tried the rival bikes but this one just hit me.🤘
I know I’m 3 years late but great review. You guys work really well together in this format with this style. Very genuine.
Excellent review as always . It's like comparing a Porsche to a Lamborghini. With ideal roads and not much traffic the Tuono would edge it ,but that's a rare occurrence in the u.k. I've owned 3 Tuono's since 2016 and although they were great fun their reliability and warranty were not the best .
Thank you for your honesty sir. Hearing more than a few whispers,Wanted one badly but this is why i'm going triumph rs!
Eugene Gallagher . Took the Speed triple rs out today and it was a revelation. Handling wise , for my body weight , ( 15st) it's firm but not to the point of being uncomfortable. As speeds increase it really starts to come into its own and I think maybe beats the Superduke for agility and composure. Quickshifter is super slick and the brakes are superb. Only complaint is to wheelie it the t.c needs to be off . What were they thinking. It comes up a treat in 3rd. Overall it's a great bike ,just sort the anti wheelie and give us some racy paint jobs Triumph
Bought a new 2019Tuono 1100 factory, after 3 years ownership 100% reliable.
1200 RS against S 1000 R- I would definitely watch that
There is nothing to watch. 1200RS is better on everything.
Definitely The Tuono for Me I think the Italian bike with its little niggles just makes it feel even more special and there’s no denying that the V4 motor is an absolute masterpiece 👌🏼
Great review lads. Looks like triumph have done a really nice job. But, it would be the Tuono every time for me and twice on Sunday.😁
The Tuono would of been my pick.
I think I would pick the Triumph
Tuono looks better than that beetle juice looking Triumph.
Rode both bike back to back last week. No doubt the Triumph has a great engine and a brilliant finish (no visible cables/ hoses or any cheap looking surfaces) but the Tuono is by far the much better ride. Drivetrain with a perfect powerdelivery and flawless transmission/ blipper, best in class suspension, great stability, far better electronics/ assist package, great dash, proper ergonomics which suits the avaliable power - not talking about the V4 sound. The only lowlight is the looks of some plastic covers and switches - just my cents.
@Random-user yes random user also you should get Tuono such a great bike.
@Random-user start saving money 💰 and tell your parents to let you start riding smaller cc motorcycles. Eventually by the time you can get a license. You will be able to buy your dream bike.
I can live with the sound of either of these bikes.
I would really like to see the KTM SDR 1290 compared to these two bikes as well 😊👍🏼
2, 3 and 4 cyl... Delicious choices 👌🏼
Yeah, adding the superduke to this comparison would make it even better than it already is.
And add the Beemer S1000R also..
Seeing as Lamb (the Hooligan) loves the SDR and Greg owns an 890R, I think we already know the verdict :P
I've rewatched this so many times, just cos I like watching you two hairing around on bikes 😂
After owning and riding 8 years on the Street Triple R (2009/2014 models) I bought the Black Speed RS, to me the more substantial feel, power, build quality, ergonomics and the fact that it now rides more like a Street made it a no-brainer :) I have no complaints about the Speed suspension setup in normal (90kg 1.87m rider) since my Street was setup for the track. Only niggles I found sofar in the Speed: Neutral is sometimes hard to find, buzzing/droning in the handlebars above 6k revs which I'm hoping will be less with some bar-end weights, otherwise a perfect bike! Nice review! keep them coming. Cheers from the Netherlands
What is the range/mileage you have for the Speed Triple 1200? I've got a V4S and it's quite thirsty - 7,2l/100km.
Thanks guys I'm loving this format. I'm a Speedy owner and have loved it. The new Speed will be amazing but I'm ready for a change and think the Tuono or SDR might be it, I'll be interested to see the comparison of the Speedy and SDR. I was hoping the Tuono would be a clear favourite to help me make my mind up, so creds to Triumph on making this new bike so epic. My biggest issue with Triumph and the Speedy is the choice of colour, the Tuono just looks so much better. Come on Triumph, you made a fantastic new bike but the paint options are as dull as dish water.
Thanks Dougie 👍
Tuono factory is just amazing, with over 50 bikes ridden, it is my favorite....
My 2019 doesn't seem to have any niggles but each to their own! That v4 with the akra decat pipe is an absolute symphony and in my opinion the best sounding road bike available! The only niggle I have is keeping the front wheel on the deck 🤣🤣
Mine has plenty of niggles and everyone I talk to asks why I tolerate it. So I let the old man borrow it...he understands now lmfao
haha good point Marcus
Tuono wins for me and I'm a HUGE Speed Triple Fan.
It trips me out how 'meh' people are about this new Speedie. The thing lost 20+ lbs and gained 30hp in one year. It's launched itself deep into Super Naked territory while remaining civilized and still unquestionably being a Speed III. Not sure what people expect, but I suspect it'll take a little time for it to register.
They lost the iconic styling... plain and simple. Bikes are sold by emotion not power / weight figures
@@agentsmith7727
I disagree. I still see the "iconic styling", only slimmed down, made faster and improved.
I own a 13 S3R btw.
Paint jobs? I mean as a Triumph owner even I think they’re beyond conservative
For me it's just the drab colour schemes, on the fence about trading up from my 2016 model, more imaginative colours would tip the balance, I can only hope triumph, who always say they listen to customers make next year's models more visually striking until then I'm keeping my 2016
@@andrewprice1189
Well you're not exactly wrong there. I do like the black one, but it desperately needs a red sub frame and some sexier 5 spoke rims, then I'm good
I just received my 2022 Speed Triple 1200RS and have a couple takes of gas through it. Love it. To make it a much better street bike, back the too firm Ohlins settings to 20 Compression and 20 Rebound on both fork and shock. Makes a massive difference. Still well dampened and control but some much more forgiving and much better contract with the road for 180lbs rider. I love the range of adjustments on the new Ohlins.
You should try the new Aprilia engine in the 21 RSV4, mid range is bonkers with increased power all the way up. it’s sublime & best engine in the motorcycle world
I'm loving my 2022 speed triple. I choose it over everything else because it fit me best. Had help setting up the suspension and nothing but smiles since.
2021, you buy it in 2021, not in 2022.... We are in 2021 dude!! If you want a speed triple from 2022 you have to buy it on 1 January of 2022 xDDD
@@Big1_ guess you're a little slow... it's a 2022. Few manufacturers have 22's out already
@@1993kramer The only slow here it´s you. Check your bike papers, year of enrollment.... What does it say? 2021...They will continue selling it until 2022-2023-2024, but your bike is from 2021, not 2022.... Thank me later :)
@@Big1_ title and paperwork says 2022. Back to school young fella
You and Greg are an excellent duo for these comparison reviews. Outstanding! Impressed with Triumph build quality and refinement - a plus for long term ownership.
Had the opportunity to ride both and choose between them, went with the aprilia and would go with it every single time. But I did like riding the speed triple more in the city and traffic. Great vid gents.
Fantastic comparison video! For me it’s about the looks and sound so Aprilia wins on both counts.
Currently in the process of getting my 1200rs so glad to see people that know what they are talking about love it as much as I did.
Great video. I honestly can't stand the motovloggy stuff, random man rambling about random stuff I don't care about etc, waffling and repeating etc. This video however is just pure quality content. It's straight to it. It's full of the footage, audio, and info I want. Having two people discussing the bikes is far more engaging. The hosts have chemistry and are entertaining but it isn't over the top... Top work.
Thanks Edward appreciated
WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO SEE 2021 SUPER NAKED TEST..😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
the Tuono V4 sound is so special. When you hear the sound you know what comes on road
I purchased a 2023 Baja Orange Speed Triple 1200RS yesterday and tested positive with the flu so I can’t ride as my whole body aches…. It sure does look beautiful in the garage at the moment 😅
Thank you for the lovely comparison, we've been waiting for it for so long👍 We want to see the speed triple RS vs The Superduke🔥
I really enjoy this 'back and forth' format and it feels unique and engaging. Let's see more of Greg and these comparisons where possible! Thank you.
V4 baby
That V4 looks and sounds amazing and that’s what it’s all about for me .
Excellent review, you mention things/subjects that matter and you want to know as a rider or almost owner. Except from fingering the Speed at the end of the review and I am late for work now, LOL. Always wanted a Tuono but my new mat silver Speed is arriving in 2 weeks according to the dealer. A salute from the Netherlands!
Triumph with full exhaust and map would be unreal
You two make a great double act! Good review and a little surprised with the result. I thought the Tuono would walk this one, so well done Triumph 👏
Great comparison Chops. Both lovely machines but I think I'm with you on this one and the Triumph just seals the deal......just!
Awesome video again mate 👌
Love the setup/format of these reviews. Wonderful bikes. I like the understatement in the Triumph design, although it would be good to have a few more colour options.
I'm on the hunt for a second bike. All the middle weights like mt09 duke 990 street triple i done feel comfortable on. I've test rode the MT10, Duke 1390, bmw1000xr and speed Tripple. So far for me the Speed is in the lead with the MT10 coming a close second. The Tuono is on my to do list. I've surprised myself how fussy i am with bikes, it has to feel right. My Tiger 900 GT Pro is great. Although it doesn't have the performance of these bikes it's no slouch and a great practical ride. I'll keep this bike for commuting and hopefully get a second.
Good choice of review buddy Chopsy, he's 'Decent' more joint tests please
Great comparison video. Please do a 2021 tuono v4 1100 factory vs 2021 BMW s1000r m package please.
Chopsy, so enjoy this comparison forum. But, to not get completely off topic..for the street my Honda CBR 600rr is awesome! I've been riding 40 yrs, and Honda nailed it! It's a 2012 btw.
id pick the cheaper or the one with better fuel consumption
1000 out of 1000 I'll take the Aprilia. No question. That fiery Italian engine , passion and quality is superior. I agree with Michael Neeves that the Tuono runs likely the greatest engine on any motorcycle ever produced. I like the Super Duke 1290 R and this over the Triumph. I rode the Triumph and I like it however I would grow tired of it.
I test rode the RS12 today. Was very impressed with it. Its not quite there but very good effort from triumph. Found the handling awesome, made my Tuono Factory feel heavy in comparison 😳
As you say the torque is far more noticeable on the Tuono. Once wound up the RS is just as fast. I did find the RS had intrusive vibes on the pegs and bars tho.
I was unable to get it into track mode or turn the wheelie control off so that was a concern.
Other point of note was the DRLs are not bright enough. I found people pulling out and just not seeing me while on the RS1200.
I think if they sort out the vibes, more torque and segregated traction and wheelie control this will be fighting for the top spot.
So glad I stumbled on this video, you know I have said it before but this intro makes me smile, the song, you replied in the past it was a CZcams standard thing, I have found it. It is from quincas, wicked things. Now on with watching the vid since I’m here! Loved that your hypermotard started !
Great review. Just picked up a leftover 2020 tuono rr and love it best part it was 15k. Plus I have the 2019 street triple r so it’s just the little brother to the speedy.
Enjoying these comparison reviews and having your mate there for a bit of banter and alternative viewpoint is a good idea !
Great review guys excellent Job, for me its still the Tuono but I am biased I have a 2019, must admit I got the impression from the start you were both going for the Triumph. I wonder is there a bit of GB bias :-), no harm if there was, its normal.
Great video guys. As I own a 19 Tuono factory and rode the RS yesterday was very interested in your views. Totally agree that the engine in the RS isn’t a patch on the Tuono. However the fit and finish of the Triumph and the smoothness makes it a great bike. The one reason I wouldn’t have one you didn’t mention. After an hour of riding it my legs were extremely sore and cramped, where as the Tuono has never done that to me. Be interested if you had the same experience. Cheers guys.
Is the Tuono a naked bike though ? No its not is it ,it's still got a bikini on , Triumph has its jugs out and no pants . Triumph used to paint these bikes in mad colours , now all you get is grey and black . love the 2 man comparison chit chat , great review
I love the Chopsy and Greg reviews, really good stuff 👍👍👍👍
Great video mate - really top stuff!
I owned a 2016 Triple R and loved it. It wasn't the fastest bike in the world, but it's tonnes of fun and very flickable. I've not ridden the 2021 (wife won't let me...) but I'm really sad to see they've started painting on the Triumph logo. I loved the raised lettering on mine; it was a classic touch.
Good review. I don’t know if I missed it, but wanted to hear more about ergonomics and comfort.
re 19:22 . Needs to be in a bright red. I completely AGREE ! I hope Triumph listen to you two :)
Last tuono was discounted to £14.5K WITH the akra can. Was chatting to an aprilia dealer the other day saying I'd have one of these if they did that again
Tuono, I can't see myself ever getting another bike, other than a newer tuono. It's that bloody engine..
This comment comes before watching the video. I can't imagine much coming close to the Tuono other than the streetfighter.
Enjoyed the video. The Tuono is about as naked as a winter sheep. You repeated my son's words when he sold his; 'It is too much for the road', and he went on; 'I can't afford to lose my licence'.
Great video mates! I agree with your points. I think the ease of use of the Triumph’s power especially above 6k gets you moving quicker than you realize. I own one with a few mods like Air Filter, Decat Race Exhaust and a Unrestricted ECU Tune and let me tell you… It’s a rocket. I’ve found that I can launch harder by standing on traction/wheelie control. WOT from a stop, or exiting a corner and you can just lean on it and it keeps you sorted. I love it!
For me the rsv4 is the pinnacle of sport naked bikes
Styling power noise
Electronics
Just 10/10
Fantastic review Mr Chops, much appreciated! If only the Speed triples colours weren't inspired by John Major. I would love if somebody inside Triumph would explain their thinking behind the drab colours. Something more vibrant would swing the balance of trading up from my 2016 model
What awesome timing Chopsy!! Friday knock off time here in Aus on the Queens Birthday Long Weekend; beer in Hand, and your latest video on!! Life is great. Thanks again for the great video and breakdowns…. and throwing a few little doubts into mind on the Tuono (which still hasn’t landed here)…. Still craving your detailed comparison of the Tuono and S1000R!!!😜😜 cheers mate!! 🍺🍺
My thoughts EXACTLY,,....just havin a beer after knocking off for a long weekend (in Aus) 👍
Great video, really like these longer form reviews and the point that you wouldn’t be unhappy with either!
Love these two up reviews with Greg and as a street triple r owner now drooling over the speedy 1200! Great Vid Chaps 👍
As always a great review in this channel. I have been expecting this comparison eagerly. I own a 2011 Speed triple 1050, a 2013 Tuono V4R and a 2015 Street Triple Rx. I rode the Speed Triple 1200RS and the new Tuono V4 last week (and also the new S1000R). I agree with everything said except for me the 1160 triple engine is stronger (at least feels) in the mid range than the V4 from Aprilia. If I had to pick one of the two it would be the Triumph. The Tuono now feels a generation older which it is. The Aprilia still edges in sound and engine feeling but in everything else the Triumph is better. And with the new 1200RS I "don't need" to own a Speed Triple and a Street Triple because the 1200RS really is a Street Triple with a bonkers engine!
proper detailed, informative test, none of your '5 favourite things' basicness 👍
Excellent work Chops , speed triple would be my pick ,styling of the Triumph over Aprilia nice
Great review as always, great bikes, i owned a Tuono V4 Factory for 8 months, and have done a few miles on the new speed triple, if you lived somewhere with great roads, virtually no traffic and no speed limits they’d be superb but in reality as an everyday bikes the whole current crop are largely useless, not very comfortable, loads of power you can’t use, snatchy and only really good above the national limit, and the fuel light will be on in a minute, the old speed was was a better road bike, the Tuono’s finish suffers quickly in the wet/ salt and it takes hours to clean… what are they for ?
Common, seriously no one is going to mention these cheap stickers on the triumph? I really like this format guys. Good to see it back.
Now all I need is Aprilia Tuono factory vs KTM SuperDuke1290r.
Another great great review
🏴 love from Scotland 🏴
Thank you kindly 😁👍
Love these chopsy, pick up my new street fighter next Friday 😬
Enjoy it 👍
I agree about the quickshifter/blipper on the Tuono, below 4/5,000 it needs a real shove which just feels like you're inflicting unecessary damage on the gearbox, I rode the new BMW S1000R the day before the Tuono and it was butter smooth (even changing down from 4th gear coming to a junction at virtually zero rpm) you felt total confidence in the shifter with not the slightest glitch. the Tuono's a great bike, sort out the shifter ,lose 15kg and it's back to the top of the tree.
Yes S1000R and RR QS is unreal
Returned RS ater a week ownership, couldn't dial out suspension, always felt beat up after riding it. Shame, I loved it
tuono all day long and twice on sunday
Give a damn good spanking on a Sunday morning......the bike that is !!.👍
Love the format and keep watching these frequently (can't get enough of the Tuono really); will be supporting the channel
Thanks Suvash 👍 will be more comparisons coming this year for sure!
Truimph for every day commuting etc, Aprilia for weekend rides
It’s all very well but no reviewers ever ask what the design life of engines or, say, LCD dashboards or electric suspension is. That adds to real time ownership cost & depreciation.
I was ready buy this latest Tuono but for a month the Forums and my local dealer have confirmed a “software” issue with this Euro 5 Factory where dashboard warning lights get thrown up that even the dealer can’t extinguish. Who’s gonna buy one knowingly? I think that’s why there’s already nearly new ones on EBay and auto trader from disappointed early adopters.
The size of Triumph and the simplicity of conventional Ohlins may mean it wins long term for some rider paying his own maintenance costs.
Enjoying these head-to-head reviews. Top work 👌
Loved the vid chaps, a really good watch! Looking forward to more in this format. 😎😎😎
Ps id choose the Italian 🇮🇹
Tuono every day of the week and twice on a Sunday
Great vid sir's. Any chance of a test of the base Tuono which is now more road focused than ever before. That, on the road could be a game changer in the super naked class. Cheers and keep up the good work.
Will try Boz, really depends if Wheel's have a demo and I don't think they do
Going to collect my Speed Triple now🎉 Tuono was my first choice but its 3 grand more expensive and the insurance for me is twice as expensive because I'm new back to biking.
Nice vid as usual! Between the 2021's i think i'd pick the Triumph, by a .0005 margin but as i have the 2020 Tuono factory i can't see any of them motivating a swap : )
I must watch, you said my favourite word "Hooning"
I’m in the market for a hypernaked for street and track use, and I must say the Triumph was not even considered. Doesn’t seem like their in the same league, despite being in the same class.
Either one please. 😀
G'day Mr Chops. Great video. Two very good riders and two excellent motorcycles, let them loose on the highways
and byways of English roads and what have you got , a super comparison. Well done chaps. For me it's the
value for money Triumph but it was a close call. Brilliant.
Aprilia all day long, the soundtrack and engine alone does it for me.
I appreciate the thorough comparison. Can't wait to see the naked shootout.