These FIBA Rules Would Fix NBA
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- čas přidán 19. 01. 2023
- The NBA has never seen more scoring or highlight plays. But are we really living in the best era of basketball? Some fans (and even the San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich who called it "a circus") disagree.
In this video, BasketNews' Augustas Suliauskas takes a look at how the NBA arrived at this moment and how some FIBA rules, together with different officiating could improve the situation.
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Fiba rules basketball is a million % better to watch I’d rather watch Australia nbl or euro league than nba regular season.
If i have to watch another nba game of hybrid scrimmage 3 point shootout with no defence and pick and roll / iso offensive plays I might literally pop .Rules I’d change are 1. Refs Call step back travels 2. Shrink the court size 3. Bring back body/hand checking and get rid of the no impeding progress rule 4. Reduce 3 point arc , the extra distance actually makes 3s easier because most shots are virtually uncontested and the defence can never close the gap off a penetrate and pass. 5. Separate the stats for 3s and 2s , so that the 3point % doesn’t reduce the 2 point %. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY MAKE THE NBA ALL STAR GAME A 100% FULL TILT MAXIMUM EFFORT GAME NOT AN MICKEY MOUSE EXHIBITION. Can you imagine the quality of basketball of the the 24 best players on earth going at it max effort for glory and bragging rights and the winning conference decides home court advantage in the nba finals
a shorter season would mean lower salaries
@@ektran4205 so what??!!
I’m 90s kid and with the rise of Curry’s Warriors, NBA - doesn’t exist for me anymore. Most amazing thing in basketball for me is post game and You can’t see that a lot nowdays.
Americans are too arrogant to adopt European rules. they even call their game (90% played by hand) a Football. but our original, real football they call Soccer
no, guys.... you ar suckker. we play Football since America wasn't discovered jet.
I'd like to see teams being allowed to play defense again
Would they? Or it went too far?
Actually the NBA got tired of sub 100 point games led by the 80's/90's Detroit Pistons they determined that defense was bad for business
@@MarcG7424 yet the 80's and 90's was the golden age of NBA. NOT today.
@@uowebfoot Exactly
@@uowebfoot “golden age” is subjective in terms of viewership and entertainment value the nba has never been better. Even in terms of skill it’s the most skilled era ever
Carrying, traveling and illegal screens. You mentioned the main problems.
Zone hasnt helped either
@@sugarnads why? i like watching zone defense. one on one is a less intelligent approach.
@@sugarnads Yeah but illegal defense was a convoluted mess to both officiate and just explaining the rule would require a video in of itself. But traveling, carrying, and moving screens are a nuisance.
Carried ball, traveling, disastrous defense. With the European rules on traveling, players like James or Harden would not even score 50% of the scored points. Traveling is their greatest asset and they do it every time. Of course, there is also Morant, Westbrook and many others. Defense - does not exist. Especially on extra stars. Why? Because for the NBA, as a company, a LeBron dunk poster is much more profitable than some defense. Jerseys, TV rights contracts, popcorn, sandwiches, tickets... In the USA, basketball is exclusively a job, in Europe it is a sport, a family, a life. In Europe, it is unthinkable that fans, wearing the jerseys of rivals, sit next to each other. Often entire cities are divided by fan affiliation. The NBA is just entertainment, as is the understanding of all other sports in the USA. Therefore, in order to raise the level of entertainment, players, referees, in general the entire NBA organization, ignores the basic rules of basketball. Carrying, traveling, flopping, ridiculous defense. And Europe has superstars. I remind you, Luka, Joker, Janis, Dirk, Gober... they are all European players. But, like everyone else in Europe, they followed the rules. Because, in Europe, basketball is bigger than money. In the NBA, money is the only thing that matters. Basketball is just a tool to get there. Following the rules or not.
@@sugarnads???
They HAVE to start calling travel carry and the illegal screens because it's just too obvious that they're giving the offense an even bigger advantage over the defense and it would slow down the game enough to get scoring down to reasonable levels
Why does scoring need to go down? What is 'reasonable levels' and what makes that reasonable? Those would be my questions
@@PlaySA Because this lack of defense makes the gaems less tense and unappealin, and puts FAR too much efforr on just shooting, might as well ditch the second basket and just make them throw free shots the entire game
@@PlaySA it doesnt but the pace of the game does. Because chucking up threes all game long isnt entertaining nor the most effective way to play.
@@peenhead9938 Totally agree that it's not very entertaining. And you are also right that overall it's not effective. That being said nine teams this regular season actually had a higher points per three point attempt than points per two point attempts. The biggest impact being the Suns where they would score 104 points per 100 2PA, but 112 from 100 3PA. So about a third of the league were actually more point efficient shooting threes instead of twos. Still leaving two thirds who wasn't.
Overall the league average was 109,6 p/100 2pa while only 108,2 p/100 3pa. So you are right.
On a somewhat unrelated note it's worth noticing that the top seven 3p% teams all went to the playoffs, and 11 of the top 13 with only Dallas and Indiana missing out. I assume it has to do with being more dangerous at threes creates more space in general, and five of those top seven teams actually were more point efficient shooting threes than twos.
Just to round off: Still totally agreeing with you that it's not very entertaining watching all those quick three point shots. I can live with it when the pace is a bit slower and they create a good offense swinging the ball creating a good three point shot. But running and gunning threes none stop in nine second offenses is just boring.
@@SimonAstrupDK Yeah some teams like the Warriors are better off playing like that. But most teams arent. I like the way the Heat and Nuggets play im glad they made it to the finals.
I like everything you said, as a ref myself I cannot even watch the NBA anymore. I wouldn’t call it basketball anymore, it’s a form of entertainment and money maker.
WWE - 'Sports Entertainment' It's no longer a sporting event. I stopped watching a long time ago.
That’s what it is . “SPORTS Entertainment” just like the WWE && also the higher ups choses the Star Players . Before every live game they announce that it’s sports entertainment also so if you try to Sue in court like multiple people did you would lose because they will admit that the league chooses who wins & loses.
That why I laugh when people say “the nba is best than ever”. It’s just an reality show
@@Telopead exactly it’s a reality Show with the best athletic actor’s in the world. The commentators read scripts just like in the WWE, if you pay attention they sometimes tell you what’s going to happen before it happens.
money making declining if they keep this up
The two things that frustrate me the most are the blatant carries, and players throwing themselves at defenders to get calls. These need to be called correctly.
lets also make the court as small as fiba games
@@jmgonzales7701 that doesn't make any sense
@@redfordreddington8834 it lessen spaces which can help defense
I stopped watching basketball years ago because of this stuff. There's still some nice plays here and there but overall it's just not watchable at the moment. Go watch some early 90s basketball and it's just a much better product than today's game.
The way to get rid of players throwing themselves (i.e., flopping) is simple: treat it the way they treat flagrant fouls.
* Every game is examined afterward by the league
* Every time it's determined that you flopped, you get a point added to your score.
* Once you get 16 points, every additional point means you're banned from the next game
I can hear some people complain, "But who's to determine who's flopping or not". There will be panel of people paid to watch every game. Once the panels says you flopped, you flopped. No discussion. It would IMMEDIATELY get rid of the problem.
The biggest thing for me is how often the offence gets rewarded for fouls they jump into
You mean, the Harden Special??
just everything favors offense, you can't play any meaningful defense
So true
yes, harden did that to a degree the NBA changed the rules for it. what your talking about has not happened as much in the last 2 seasons. cmon
Maybe don't jump from pump fakes? What you meant to say is you don't want to reward players who use their skills to separate themselves from defenders.
1. Call carries
2. Call travelling (only 2 extra steps after your last dribble)
3. don't call fouls when the offensive player initiate the contact (that applies to jumping in defenders & the swing motion..which is the worst of them all)
4. Remove the zone
5. Remove the defensive 3-second
6. Bring back partial hand-check
7. Make 3 point shots worth 1 point.
Ban step through which not jump on both feet. Using one extra step to jump makes it so un fair to the defense
#3 is the biggest one for me *by far* ! It's such bullshit that a player like James Harden is called "crafty" for manufacturing fake fouls and going to the line for 20+ points per game. This isn't basketball, it's dog shit !
@@bozo5632make slam dunks worth 3 points, deduct a point for every missed free throw, games can end on a tie or go to overtime if it's the NBA finals or a tournament.
8 Introduce doping control.
The carry is what bothers me the most as I learned that that's the main difference between Street Ball and PRO. You're supposed to be able to perform at the highest level by moving past the flashy plays and be able to win through the talent
Jordan and Iverson carry the ball ALL the time.
@@se7enzee444 Jordan adjusted his dribble late in his career but it’s true
I think foul baiting is still a huge problem. Offensive players get rewarded too much for creating contact.
I only watch a game every other week or so, but every single game in every single quarter there's at least 1 weak-ass call that I know would never be called in the 2000's. They need to change the rules to let defenders actually play defense without having to be afraid of incidental contact while the ball is in the air.
Agree. I'd call it the "800 Rule" for the 800 free throws James Harden took his last year with the Rockets.
Foul baiting by itself is ok, the criteria of what counts as a foul is dumb. They can go all nfl one play with no calls, and then get called for breathing on another player the next play.
@@gaspergerm7424 Accurate.
Offence fakes a shot, defense jumps and isn't going to hit the offensive player, but the offensive player jumps diagonally into the defensive player and takes a shot.
In my eyes, it should be an offensive foul. Defensive player wasn't going to harm himself of the offensive player, but the offensive player risks injuring both players.
The whole charging thing bothers me too.
The Popovich quote at the beginning is fire.
The clown making the video offers Pops punchline as a possible solution.... Ha. What a %$%$wit.
Popobich is just MAD that egomaniacs like him aren't in control. The players are. Typical narcissist bytch.
No it’s not, popovich is an old man, wants to go back to when he was with Tim duncan
@@rohanghose8707 well the NBA is pretty ridiculous these days.
@@rohanghose8707 He's seen it all, which means he knows what basketball is best, meanwhile you prefer a league where they change rules every time you blink and refs go either -100 or +100 with calls to a point players can't even tell what's a foul nowadays. So yeah, he's old and the new nba gameplay sucks ass.
As a player of basketball for over 40 years this video is spot on with the problems with the NBA. 👍 I've been watching the NBA less and less over the past few years. What ticks me off the most is the blatant traveling and carrying over of the ball. Also allowing offensive players to use their offhand to knock away defensive players and not allow defensive hand checking is a joke. These things are only making the referees look bad and causing young kids to copy them, thus making things worse for the game in the future. They talk about changing some rules. These things have been going on for too long. They will have to make drastic changes to correct the game. This is another reason why I don't compare players from different eras of the game. As you say it's a circus out there. No longer the real game of basketball. 😡
Five changes for me
1 - Only one timeout can be used per team in the last two minutes of any quarter
2 - Call carries
3 - Call walks
4 - Referee's held accountable exactly the same way as players and coaches
5 - No more intentional fouls...back in the day you got a tech for these (still current internationally)...and yes this applies at the end of the game fouling to stop the clock ⛳
I like all of your points. I get tired of yelling, “Dribble the ball!” haha
@@jaco7675 Hahaha agreed...when I'm watching NBA you can find 20+ walks in a game that are never called...
...back in the day l counted and wrote them down...first game Boston vs someone l forget now but l stopped at 20 because there was 6 minutes left in the second quarter...so I thought I watch a west coast game and try and isolate it right?...and same thing around 20 or so by half...done a few other games and similar result...this is way back late 90's early 2000's but it's worse now!...
My findings from sitting and yelling at screen "walk" every minute and extensive data collections that never made the full four quarters of a single game a common theme emerged over the years - 90% of non called walks are done by American players 10% by international's...
...l loved when USA finally brought the pros back in '92 Olympics and seeing their faces when the refs called up the walks it was priceless...one commentator said "l'm not sure why Barkley is upset at that call he took four steps and nearly ran out of the building"...
...The Americans did eventually adjust after a few games but some struggled and still do and I love watching them play...but it's hard to watch these great and gifted athletes struggle with something so basic that you get taught when you first start ballin ⛳
@@Chip_in My kids get tired of hearing me yell: “Call it!!” until they tell me to leave the room.
@@jaco7675 hahaha my kids play but I have them trained now...they are picking up calls before me now if we are watching a game...our running joke between us, they will call walk before me and then say "dad you need glasses" which has evolved now if they beat me to it they just call out "glasses"...
...Ahhh it's good being old 😎⛳
Definitely going to need a source for those numbers, sounds like a giant pile of bias.
Luka's honest answer said it best, "It's easier to score in the NBA" and he adds right after, “it’s only because of the rules”. Go kick rocks
Not because of the rules, but bc of the lack of IQ and excess of athleticism. You pump fake it and somebody fly by like an airplane.
if they fixed the rules luka's career would be over
@@JohnDoe-ns8ho Butthurt are you?
@@JohnDoe-ns8ho true. Once NBA starts to implement and enforce the same rule on travelling, Luka will not be able to just spin and turn walking all over the place.
@@shenghan9385 He only does that because he knows he can get away with it though. He was the Euro League MVP so there is no reason to believe that he can't play with stricter rules. Everybody would be affected, not just Luka.
Travelling and Carrying are essential rules.
Even the Harlem Globetrotters were always closer to them than the current NBA.
Maybe the NBA would be better if they brought in the Globetrotters "hide the ball under the jersey" trick?
@@wtk6069 lol
@@wtk6069 the trampolines man... the trampolines.
@@ReadIcculus93 didn't they try to that as a sport and stopped it because too many guys got significantly hurt due to that?
@@achimsinn6189 Yea, it was fun while it lasted
I spent an entire season watching college basketball and I saw so much carrying I thought they just adjusted the rule and I missed out. Hands technically should never be under the ball and even on the side it's quite questionable, but it happens so much I just thought I was getting old.
That’s because of AAU ball at the high school level. They just let kids play like they are already in the NBA so they lose out on the fundamentals. It’s no wonder 3 of the top 5 players in the NBA today are from Europe where they still teach the fundamentals.
Lets talk about tanking. Can you imagine what would happen if for example Partizan or Panathinaikos or Maccabi would literally loose on purpose in order to be last even if that is the best outcome for the club? There would be a revolution in the country, governments would change. Its a matter of honor. A club has honor, a franchise doesn't
Why would Maccabi ever tank? The only time they didn't go to the playoffs was in 55-56 when the Israeli League didn't hold playoffs. This is the problem with these kinds of leagues. They aren't competitive. Including the season without a championship Maccabi has FAILED to win the championship only 13 times.
Tanking isn't great but it does provide a way for lesser teams to become contenders and win the championship. In foreign leagues there simply is no path forward for smaller clubs. The big money teams won before, are winning now, and will continue to win in the future. UNFAIR and BORING.
At this point, I think Maccabi is tanking for real
I don't think honor is a concept in the US. The only values are money, individualism and entertainment.
You Europeans are barbarians and soccer hooligans. In places like USA and Australia we are trying to attract families to games. Children... Who would take a kid to a Euroleague game? A barbarian?
@@notreal6246 they didn't make playoffs 2 years ago in EUROLEAGUE which is competitive.
We are not seeing crazy dunks due to athleticism. We are seeing more crazy dunk due to the lack of paint/rim protection.
We need to get rid of the defensive 3-second rule!
Nah just less yt players compared to back then
Both can be true
I remember it when going from the perimeter to the rim was a fight. You had to dunk over a 7 footer who'd spent his entire life defending the rim, which is why you had to work it into the big man in the post. Essentially, they've made it too easy in the name of "entertainment". How is that entertaining?
Damon Stoudemire couldn't dunk. Damion Lillard Can.
Lack of defense, lack of physical play, lack of consistency when calling the rules etc..
Tbh to me seeing the battle between 2 centers on the paint is simply amazing and something I miss and hope will return one day.
The real game is how to increase revenue for the NBA? If allow tough defense and physicality, it would be more difficult for European players to compete with American players. Globalization is how the NBA eats now.
@@vamoneygroup they change the rules too often and are enforced too arbitrarily. Just by doing the same call every time and keeping the same rules every time would be a big step in the right direction
@@marceloasensiofilho3833 absolutely but the bottom line is revenue, TV deals, etc. If the NBA was still 85% black players the ratings would be in jeopardy so now the rules change to allow margina European talent to compete.
@@marceloasensiofilho3833 Adam Silver did a interview about it with KG
prioritizing defense and not offense will bring the game back to being interesting and fun again
Something that has become more annoying recently is how easy it is for an offensive player to draw a foul. Basically just run into someone and fall over. It's a foul on the defense when the ball carrier is the one who initiated contact
The offensive foul interpretation also changed quite a bit. Before it was an offensive foul, if the ball handler was moving with the shoulder into the chest of the defender. Now this move is mostly a foul by the defense. Especially when a star is the ball handler.
That was to help lebron who play bully style
Never understand how is that possibly a defensive foul. What are they suppose to do? Lay down the red carpet and sit down on the bench?
It shouldn't be a foul at all. Let the players go up for a shot, and let the defenders make legit attempts to block the shot. Contact shouldn't be a big deal, as long as it's not just someone running into the man without a legit attempt to get the ball. If a defender jumps straight up and even backwards, there is NO WAY they should be called for a foul unless they physically stop the shooters arm from shooting or attack the player's head or shove them or whatever.
@@B3Band I'm waiting for the day when the legit way to train for professional basketball is not shooting or dribbling balls anymore, but to train muscle to tackle, charge, arm wrestling, sumo pushing. And it become America national martial art.
You're talking about the "Lebron James shoulder barge"....Yup, he gets away with offensive fouls EVERY GAME. It's pathetic but the league needs him so they never call it.
Kobe was a better player.
I think a gradual move towards FIBA rules for the NBA would be awesome.
I think hand checking should be brought back as this may also reduce isolation basketball and bring back emphasis on passing the ball.
idk about that, iso basketball was pretty much throughout before hand checking got removed, and it was even worse before defensive 3 seconds.
At least 1 hand, but two hand checkin turns into football.
We got into this mess by 'team handball-izing' Dr. Naismith's game. Let's go back to the rules of basketball; no travelling, dribble legally and screen legally.
Jordan Poole’s carrying is legendary.
Jordan Poole would playing in china if they called all his carrying and travels correctly
@@ryanb9305 he would be benched in china
In 90s-early 00s, each basket earned was more intense to watch the offense or defense battle. Now is more about who makes mistakes and fouls for the other to take momentum and control the clock.
The carries, the steps, those are an issue. The 3 was the best addition to the game ever, as it brings more talent to the league instead of just seeking out the biggest man to stand in the paint.
Nah the 3 point revolution has sucked for basketball. 80s and early 90s fastbreak basketball was awesome. The 3 point line was there but no one used it. Layups being the most valuable shot is better for basketball. There a many different ways to set up an offense to optimize paint play in full court and half court sets. Great shooters had an effect in every era. Bird, Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, Peja Stojacovic, many others I'm missing. Nowadays everything mid range is worthless. There's barely any variety anymore. AAU basketball has also just made players unskilled so they need all of these crutches on offense. Players can't function outside simple offensive sets anymore and suck on defense too
@@jeffk862 bald assertions
@delusionalantics the constant 3 point barrage is a joke and boring as fuck. OOh wow they can shoot a three whooptydoo can they do that when the game is on the line most cant lol pressure is a killer of shots of some of these slackers
Nba with fiba rules would be so amazing… i prefer watching EuroLeague games because of the way the game is played. But the Nba players are usually more talented altho i do feel like there could be a few players that would lose their superstar status under the fiba rules
Better Shooters are in NBA better defender in Euroleague
@@user-hj8mz3hp3s so tell me why in Olympics win USA? For better shooting, or better defense?
@@povilasgrigas4612 shooting
@@user-hj8mz3hp3s Better defender? What? How do you say so?
@@jeremiahdanielsamuel2505 look at europesn team defence its better ,in NBA americam players dont know to play box and one/or isolation how we call it here in balkans.When best defending guard takes on best PG or G
Just improve the defence in NBA by allowing no steps before dribble. It is hard to defend when a player can carry or travel all the time.
The NBA wanted to make the game more exciting for the fans but they overcorrected. Now there is a lot more scoring but the quality of play is not as good. The stars of the past were just as good shooters but did not get as many opportunities because teams could actually field a defense and all the calls were not in favor of the offense.
I loved how in 2006 you could watch a 75-69 final and a 129-118 final in the playoffs on the same day. Always prefer the defensive slugfests, but the offensive variability in both function and outcome was great.
i mean the nuggets did that a lot this year, even in the playoffs, winning 132-126 one night and 94-89 on a different night
@@kevinl3875 what a bizarre fucking response? And do you even know the meaning of slugfest?
- “a fight marked by the exchange of heavy blows
also : a heated dispute”
“a tough and challenging contest”
A physical grind-it-out defensive battle is a a perfectly suitable application of the word. But like I said, bizarre leap to disgorge the different sport line. Lol you have no idea anything about the person you’re even replying to
@@kevinl3875 ie nfl
@kevinl3875 actually basketball isn't for you.
I actually don't think there's a problem with the rules, I think the problem is that the rules are not being enforced. I don't care if you blow the whistle 11 times a quarter on a single player, but stop allowing people to travel and carry, period. Yes, there will be growing pains, but as you mentioned, if enforced consistently, players eventually will adapt and we'll have a better product for it in the long run.
Carrying is just out of control right now... biggest problem NBA basketball ever faced.
Well for starters they could start enforcing the existing rules on travel and carrying. It's completely random now when they call the travel for example. Pretty much all players make travel violation every time they start the dribble which gives them slight advantage against defender.
It's not random. It all depends on your stardom level.
i'm so glad i found your channel :)
i agree with your takes completely and you deliver them well and eloquently
stay healthy :)
I am happy with some old school games on youtube, in the last twenty-five years I've seen around less than three NBA games and I am still alive! Thanks for the good video, dude! I am looking forward to the next year's olympic tournament!
Excellent video and well made points. Glad you're speaking out about this.
The games of the top league on the planet have become stale... quite boring in recent years. In euroleague every point scored is exciting. Because you actually need to achieve it by getting past the defense. Every game is exciting, because there's fewer of them, thus each and every singly one carries more weight.
But is it harder to score more because of less talented offensive players or more because of all the pro-offense rules that have the NBA implemented?
@@AugustasSuliauskas It is mainly harder because of the rules. On top of that the defensive schemes and tactics are better and more team oriented in europe imo. Of course the offensive players aren't as good as in the NBA but neither are the individual defensive players so it kinda evens out.
I live in the USA and have been a hoops fan since Larry/Magic days. Everyone I know who grew up loving the NBA never watch it anymore, except for maybe the latter stages of the playoffs for precisely the reasons you outline here. The non enforcement of basic rules, everyone runs the same boring offense, etc... I prefer Euroleague , FIBA, and to some degree certain NCAAA games.
I agree on the same boring offense point... they need to crack down on illegal on ball screens because they make pick and roll offenses way too overpowered and easy to rely on.
Is there more diversity in NFL, for example? I’m not following and would be interested to hear if other sports have all cracked the code on the most efficient way to the most potent offenses.. or if it’s only basketball with all these rules
@@AugustasSuliauskas There is a massive amount of diversity in gridiron football. Even right now, the four teams left have very different styles. Two are running teams with one being more traditional and the other being more of a rpo and option running team and the other two are passing teams with one being more about crossing routes and the other being more about vertical stems.
@@AugustasSuliauskas NFL has many talented offensive coordinators that come up with a variety of schemes. Plus you can either run or pass the ball. Many rule changes went into effect to favor the offense and more scoring but you still get great defensive play sometimes as in last nights Cowboys/49ers playoff game. NBA have had many rules changes to favor the offense as well, but the public doesn't buy into it as much due to the perceived lack of D.
But the ncaa runs the same sets everytime.
I agree with everything in the video. The 3-pt/4-pt change is very interesting, I'd be curious to see some analytics on that. The worst offenders for me in terms of decreasing watchability of the game are travels, moving screens, and foul-baiting. Defense works so hard, doing everything right (from the perspective of my couch anyway), all for naught because the offensive player has such an advantage. I really enjoyed the start of the season 2 or 3 years ago where the refs were really cracking down on offensive-player-initiated contact. So many stars (Harden, Curry, Trae) had much worse PPG because the fouls were not getting called. Another small-but-big difference to FIBA is being able to touch the ball after it hits the rim. In NBA, there's nothing stopping an offensive player tipping the ball back in, but if the defender touches the ball, goal-tend. Where's the fairness in that?
Great analysis, man! Subscribed.
if we got rid of the defensive three-second violation, would it make defenses better or would it just make teams shoot more 3s? it's worth considering because I think being on defense gives you so little power compared to how much control the offensive team has. but yeah carrying and illegal screens should be called.
Actually I saw a video a few days ago that talked about how mathematically the 3 pointer is perfect in terms of distance and amount of points. I forgot the name of the video unfortunately but it did an in depth mathematical and statistical analysis and revealed that this is the first time in NBA history when the ratio of points earned per shot are exactly the same from 2 point and 3 point.
Also the reason of why it didn’t happen right away from the introduction of the 3 pointer was for a couple reasons. 1) The distance of the 3 changed a couple times. 2) It had to take time for teams to adjust to the 3 pointer, especially when teams started to shoot it well. You have a good shooting team, it opens up the floor and actually makes 2 pointers easier. All in all, the 3 pointer in terms of being worth 3 points form the current distance it’s at is perfectly balanced.
@@kdub3288 I saw that video too but my question still stands
Nba needs to come out and enforce travel/carry rules or change them to match the no calls. Every team carries the ball 10 or more times per game and its never called.
I would say hundreds of times per game 🙂.
@@curaticac5391 pretty much every possession
Watched two of your posts good content new sub ❤
When I think of modern NBA offenses, I think of James Harden. Half of his game is initiating contact, hooking his arm with the defender and drawing a foul.
A defender could be standing still and not moving his arms, and somehow Harden would still get a foul call.
It makes the game stupid to watch.
Every NBA regular season game is basically a Harlem Globetrotters-type exhibition game.
Carrying and travelling rules now make a mockery of the game. The jump step is ridiculous. The NBA would sell their granny for a buck
I totally agree with the points stated in this video, but I will add something else. Watching an NBA game on TV ends being booooring, the games are so long, and there isn't a moment when a team can extend a scoring streak to turn around the game, because there are so many time outs, a lot of interruptions to cut the pace. That makes easy, as a viewer, to lose interest in the game. I always "watch" NBA games while I'm doing something else. The game is always my second choice, being played in the background. And I'm quite old yet and I'm used to focus and be patient, but my son is incapable to maintain the attention. Newer generations are used to consume short videos and change to another one in a few minutes if it's not interesting enough for them. If the NBA doesn't change, I think it will have a dark future.
Good point. 3-3,5 min of timeouts are way too much.
I’d like to see the three point line drawn straight across the court at 24’. This would force shooters towards the center for the shortest shot allowing defenses to concentrate there. This would precipitate more midrange action.
Very nice video. I don't watch or follow basketball, but you made this interesting.
The thing that frustrates me is that the league came out and said refs calling these violations would slow down the game. These guys are players on the top level. Why can’t they adjust their play to stay within the rules?
Just yesterday I was watching the '05 Finals, the game was sooooo physical just 15 years ago, up to 2012, I think. Such a pleasure to watch games where every point counts, because every possession is drained in blood and sweat
See this is what blows my mind about these new aged casual fans. I feel like I argue with them across all platforms on a daily basis as they disrespect greats like Patrick Ewings 51 against the Boston Celtics. Because he made it look so easy they believe A.) that no one played defense in the 90’s and B.) greats from the 90’s wouldn’t be able to score in today’s NBA. Blows my mind the cognitive dissonance constantly on display with these Fairweather fans
@@meayers7 honestly I just try avoiding arguing with people. Especially when they have no personal knowledge of a subject, as is watching games across last 75 years. It’s like the saying goes: you have to see it to believe it. One simply can’t equate 51 points in year 2022-23 with 51 points in 1986 or 2007 or even 2013
Watching those teams(especially duncan) is like a breath of fresh air. What I miss most from that Era(besides what you wrote) is the variety of scoring and different styles of play. You still had post up players You had guys like ginobli who scored in crafty ways. Guys like Ben Wallace who was pretty much a defensive specialist. The 3 pointer had not fully taken off yet and most Teams had a 3 point "specialist", where it was more of a strategic weapon.
Now the game has been simplified to where pretty much every wing player plays the same and every big guy just rebounds and dunks. Post play is gone. Every team looks for an open 3 and that's the only option. I like guys like jokic who I'd say is the exception to the rule. I think most players growing up with aau ball now is another factor.
@@meayers7 guys from the 80s and 90s like Ewing barkley McHale etc would dominate in today's nba. There are exceptions, but in general modern players don't want to play physical post up style ball now. Teams only focus on defending the 3.point shot because they're all.about analytics. It's just my opinion but I think the stars of that era.played harder too
@@JJ_5289 those are very valid points you brought up, it's as if up to a certain point there was a balance of skills, tactics and pure physicality in the NBA and now it's gone, not only because of the 3-point-revolution and "rise of analytics", but how games are being called first and foremost. Flopping doesn't get discouraged at all, eurosteps that turn into eurotrips and egregious carry violations almost never get called, while actually defending by using hands gets punished most of the time . As a consequence the value of a single point gets diminished in a way that a big chunk of games get nearly unwatchable, as they deteriorate into a shooting contest with a side dish of flopping
More of a soccer fan here but a player going past 2-3 players should be a display of skill. Not normalcy.
I went to a single NBA game and the above is the issue. Scoring is normal, making it relatively boring.
There is imo little to get exciting about and scoring becomes similar to winning your serve in tennis while not scoring appears like somebody breaking the serve. It becomes less about scoring as much as possible and more about not failing to score as much as possible.
This is the absolute best " fix the NBA" video I've seen to date!! Calling carries, screens, and friggin traveling needs to happen!! I've been saying the Association plays too many games since the shortened season back in 2011 season. Take it down to 72 games and start the season on New Year's. FIBA rules also makes sense. It's an international game. All countries should be playing under the same rules. Only thing I don't agree with is the 3 & 4 point shot. That makes it a circus like Pop said. Push the line back so we don't have so many 3's being shot. Aside from that, great video!👍🏾
Great video!! I think the thing that annoys me the most is the travels and the carries, because these are already well established rules.
The NBA tried to make more "highlights" kind of game. More flashy and less technical. They allowed offense go crazy, with relaxation in travelling, carries, and gather step. While at the same time reducing defenses options. No handcheck, no touch on dribble, 5 second rules, and many more. To the point that defense is almost non important, just out score the opponent. This is why Luka says its easier to score in the NBA than in Euroleague.
I took my son to an open gym today. I haven't seen people play basketball in years. Every single person was carrying and traveling.
I haven't played in almost 14 years.
I can't imagine what I would be able to do if I got away with what these kids are doing.
And I was nice!!!!!
in this time and age, they just have to identify as non-carrier and non-traveler
They shoot 3's and can't shoot any other shots.
I remember about this 10 years back the o/u line for a high scoring game was 205. Now teams be hitting that by end of Q3.
Probably just enforcing carries/palming/travels more, on top of removing hand checking rule and MAYBE the defensive 3 second rule, or maybe making it a 5 second rule instead. That would be probably be enough for teams to play better defense without disrupting offense and slowing games down too much.
Bring back the rules from 1990. Defence is a must.
Hell nah, so we can go back to 80pt games. I agree defenses need to be given more leeway, but 90s basketball sucked outside of Jordan
@@confederatetearsaredelicious There would be a lot of people that would disagree with that, me included. Nothing wrong with 80pt games when the quality of the grind was better. Nice name btw lol
@@confederatetearsaredelicious way better than today. active watchers back by claim up.
2000’s defense was better.
Bring back the Illegal defense rule? Are you nuts? FIBA never had an illegal defense rule.
very interesting point of view :) Thx for the video
what a great video. these are the changes the nba needs!
LOL Ja holds the ball for more time than he uses to dribble.
I actually did think exactly the same thing while watching footage for the video haha
Whenever I see Ja Morant gliding through the air, I imagine Shaq or Patrick Ewing flipping him like a toothpick. They would have to scratch him off the hardwood. No center with self-respect would let him dunk any of those plays with those rules back then.
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Can you imagine what the Bad Boys would do to Morant?
@@Silvereagledude They would do EXACTLY as they should ; Fuckin' kill him that is . Laimbeer would kick him in the midsection , Thomas would trip him and Rodman would force his arms down and perhaps even twist his wrists a bit to force a TO . I'd love to see Ja's expression then - if he could even attempt one because of the pain he would have felt that is .
Great video
I agree to most of your arguments, except the 3Point argument. 3pointing is still more "risky" , and a 2 point game is still more secure.....the only thing you might do is increasing the 3point distance but at the moment I dont see the necessarity
I really think just calling travels would make a huge difference.
The first three changes you suggest are by far my biggest complaint about the NBA. Especially the travels and carries which have been permitted for decades without much complaints from the refs. Really wish they'd call them and get back to a more 'pure' and fair basketball...
lets also make the court as small as fiba games
@@jmgonzales7701 collage is pretty much fiba rules. so americans and non americans are familiar with fiba rules. current nba is unwatchable
illegal screens are definitely a bigger issue than even travels and carries. Everyone is shooting threes hiding behind their bodyguards (teammates)
True this and the illegal screens now yea - hand checking back would be awesome too and changing the way juniors are trained to a more team based competitive spirit would allow for any future killer instinct MJs to rise up.. bring it - i wont hold my breath tho
I saw a Celtics vs Knicks game where I noticed that players not hitting their 3s lost defensive interest in the game and did not adjust. I mean, if you cannot hit your 3s try to score closer to the basket. It is that simple. But some players are so used to scoring 50% or more of their points with 3s that they lack a plan B if they are cold that night.
Lmao that Green notification got me good 😅🤣😅
Let's start applying the rules NBA already have, but CONSISTENLY
Any time from the Jordan Era and prior was amazing. Anything after pure garbage. No defense, fake diving and injuries like soccer, traveling and palming to new levels, just pure softness. Scoring highs aren't because the players are more talented but because there is nobody guarding them making it harder for them to score
great stuff
I don't mind the defensive 3 second and the handchecking, but I hate the travelling and the carries. The screen are also an issue. I'm convinced that by getting tighter officiating on those three things the quality improves. Then you can see how skill ful the players really are.
The 2 things that upset me the most are: the carries, players from many generations learned how to dribble the ball without carrying and now these kids carry like crazy. And second, the moving screens, but specially when there's a completely legal screen, then the defensive player runs, crashes and falls down like he was hit by a truck and the referee calls OFFENSIVE foul LOL. This is crazy, that's why a lot of ppl is not interested in NBA basketball as much as before.
Leagues always have this one-track mind about increasing scoring, but it’s pace and action that keeps sports exciting. The 3-point revolution has been mostly good but also incredibly boring and annoying to watch at times.
I think if they go like baseball and make the 3pt line varied from arena to arena; allow more defense, encourage post play. We need more variety in the teams play.
the 3 adds spacing so the mid range 2 point has never been shot as efficiently as it has now. need to be stricter on carry and travel to cut down on iso - moving screens meh. make it harder for the offensive player draw fouls when they initiate contact.
NBA->draft->tanking->boring for a league that has the best talents
Europe->no draft->no tanking->exciting
I guess excitment doesn't pay. Allmost every EL team losses money, while the NBA making billions.
@@bobobububu EL unfortunately has a much more difficult time with budgeting. Firstly the main league that is alive in the form that it is has only been alive for 22 years now. Some clubs are only now building decent sized arenas. There's some clubs in arenas that only have a few thousands seats still. Further, clubs represent completely different countries, in a couple of cases even a different continent. Tax systems, budgeting, in some countries corruption and so on make it extremely difficult to try and impose any kind of salary cap. Furthermore, basketball doesn't rank even close in on average popularity in Europe as it does in USA. It's a really popular sport only in a handful of countries in Europe. Then there's the problem of pay structure.
@@bobobububu For example a club like real or barca will receive a big fat payout from their parent football(soccer) club that created them. Clubs in some countries like CSKA or zenit of Russia which used to play there before this season would get huge payouts from Russian energy oligarchs that effectively own those clubs. So they have much less incentive to market themselves, while on the other side clubs like maccabi, zalgiris, partizan and the likes are packed with roaring fans and are maintained by their support. Euroleague keeps breaking it's records for average tickets sold, viewership and so on every few years. So in essence, compared to NBA, it's a really young league that still needs time to grow and it still has a lot of large markets it needs to tap on it's own continent and introduce basketball to a broader audience(like in UK for example, where it seems like it might be starting with the 'London lions' from what I've heard).
But none of this changes the fact that I watch both EL and NBA and NBA games in the regular season sometimes just feel like a boring chore to watch. A single game feels so pointless when there's still 50 remaining in the season.
@@mp1335 i dont get why they dont give partizan and zvezda licenses or just make it so the finals in the adriatic league means qualification to euroleague it makes the eurocup more exciting without the sheer dominance of a club like partizan or zvezda and also gives decent clubs like cedevita or buducnost a chance although they are struggling
@@mp1335 I follow the Euroleague closely for the last 20 years, this is the game I grew up on. I just don't like the arrogance of some European fans. "they play no defense", and "their system is crap". As an organization EL can learn a lot from the NBA, I do not expect them to be as successful (partly because of the reasons you mentioned) but they at least get closer. And as long as fans shit on the NBA instead of demanding EL adapt the good things from the NBA, the mediocracy is going to continue.
rule change suggestions 1-3 i'm on board with. i don't think the palming necessarily needs to change but a more strict enforcement would be fine. I also think the larger court is a great idea
the one i wouldn't suggest is reducing games. 82 has been the number and defense was ferocious up to the early 90s (i think you could help with defense without changing the number of games). not that i'm against fewer games. but fewer games means less money and that's a very hard sell for the nba, players, and players union, so i think it's a change that would not get traction
Bring more teams. Same number of games, more cities and attendance. More players playing NBA and more people watching the games. 82 is a number that make no sense to a league with 30~32 teams. 42 teams, 82 games, one home, one away. Simple and clear.
More emphasis on carry travel step and gather rules as well as moving screens being called would help the defense
It’s what I have been saying since years. NBA should return to 90s rules, similar to FIBA: no traveling, no ball carrying, no ilegal screens, no 3sec def paint rule, return of hand checking, a little bit of physicality. What is insane is seeing all this NBA stars playing on international games and suddenly all this flashy games disappear. Suddenly even they forget how to shoot 3s! Why! Because rule set is super important! NBA is sinking.
I would have the NBA adopt FIBA rules but keep the corner 3. FIBA rules are basically the old NBA rules from the 1980's and 1990's up until 2003/2004 with the innovations of David Stern. That was the real Golden🌟 Age of Basketball. I also agree making the season shorter is better for the game to make each game more meaningful. Perhaps 50 games instead of 82. Also the All Star-Game has to be re-done because it used to be that All-Stars competed to show that they were the best. Instead today its just an exhibition of no defense. Maybe players who get selected for the All-Star Game should get a special monetary bonus or special insignia they can carry on their jersey all year showing their elite status as players, if a player loses his all star status he has to hand his insignia to a player who has been selected to the all-star team in the following year...it makes the game and the elite status more personal if you have to literally hand the baton to a player who has out-competed you...
The all star game should Be now a USA/WORLD game, it will be intense…😮
Nah idk about shortening the season to 50 games because that would mess with the all time lists
64 game season. Each team plays every team twice. 4 times for teams in their division.
lets also make the court as small as fiba games
i thought i was blind but the amount of travelling and carrying is insane , this viedo is good. I hope they fix it fast.
The difference in scoring between now and the 1980s is more and better 3-point shooting. Fewer possessions and about 2 fewer total FG attempts per game per team now compared to the 1980s, but now they make 35% of >30 3PTA/game compared to 30% of fewer than 10 3PTA/game. Compare 2021-2022 to 1984-1985. In 1984-85, average of 110.8 PPG with 89.1 FGA/G and shooting 0.9 of 3.1 3PT/G. In 2021-2, 110.6 PPG with 88.1 FGA/G, but 12.4 of 35.2 3PT/G. ~40% of FGA now are 3 pointers. 40 years ago it was
Call carries, travels, and moving screens. Consistantly.
Change 3 second to a 5 second.
Change goaltending to allow for blocking shots that have touched the rim (ie in FIBA).
Call flopping as a tech.
Move the sideline 3 point line out 1 foot. It makes it the same distance as the top of the arc and allows for less room for players to run into spots.
Add at least a month to the schedule and spread games out more so players have more rest and need less management.
I think these would do the trick. We dont have to go back to some halycon 8 year period where basketball drew nor ratings and was on tape delay. We don't need to go back to the "no zone defense and its a foul if you leave your man" that they gave Michael so he could fly through uncontested paints. We just need a little bit of tweaking.
Big men posting up offensively has been pretty much completely eliminated from the NBA today. What this means is that the lane is WIDE open and once an offensive player gets by the initial defender there is no big defensive player guarding an offensive big so there's nobody there to block the shot. That's the majority of what's going on. You can go an entire game now without seeing even one player catch a ball in the low post and attempting to score in that manner.
Agree on that, I just recall many of them; Hakeem, P. Ewing, D. Robinson, D. Mutombo, Shaq and a long, long etcetera; nowdays you barely see someone doing that, it is a shame
I agree with coach Popovic that NBA has become a circus.The real basketball is been played in Euroleague.NBA is more about individual performance rather than the team's.So I suggest playing a lot more fewer games so that every game matters and of course I would like to see all that "talent" in European rules and referees...
But that would spoil the "product"....
You don't agree with Popovic. If that was Popovic' view, he'd have been coaching in the Euroleague.
Almost all matches in euroleague are dense this season
@@tawadrosal-yunani coach Pop won't be coming in Euroleague.He doesn't need more challenges now he is over 70 years old plus he doesn't have to prove anything to anyone.I am a Spurs fan and I became spurs because of the "European" style of basketball they were playing thank to him.
3 and 4 points is interesting. What are we doing with free throws then? 1.5 points or 2 points?
FIBA rules, the 3 second rule also applies to the pockets for offecne (I'd say from where the line straightens), stricktness on travelling and hands up when you are setting a block.
I think the 3 point line should be extended to 25 feet which would also eliminate the corner 3
3s arent an issue. Its all these rules that allow only offense to thrive.
@@mrfatuchi the only effective defense for a three is to hope the shooter misses it
The game played in the NBA is NOT basketball. Its a hybrid "breed", which has been altered for the sake of showmanship. All the rules you mentioned, that have been changed or outright are just ignored by the refs (obviously because they have been asked to do so), lead to and promote a star-player focused game.
How can you call it basketball when a player, quite literally, picks up the ball with no stable foot, runs 5 steps without dribbling while palming the ball and fakes while dribbling over the defender who is blocked by a moving screen ? Those rules were there for a reason. And this reason was mostly, to encourage TEAM PLAY, in a team game. You HAD to pass the ball , you HAD to time your screens correctly in order to help your teamate. You HAD to follow a co-ordinated play, in which everyone played their part, in order to find the open shot. Whats the point of all that if one guy can just grab the ball and travel his way to the basket ?
All of those things are gone in todays NBA. The players are learning the sport like that all the way through their life. I remember when the outrage was only about how NBA players used to take flight with their KNEE extended and not being charged with offensive fouls while going for a dunk. Which is, in itself, a major issue of unfairness to the defender. Dunks in the NBA have lost all meaning for me , for that very reason. How can you even defend when someone flies with their knee or elbow leading the way ?
My point is, those rules were there for a reason. Its a team game but the NBA has taken that aspect out of it, for the sake of showmanship. You cant expect to change FUNDAMENTAL rules and then scratch your head on why the game has evolved into something else. Even in international competitions USA teams are refereed leniently, whereas NBA international players get called for things NBA USA players dont. Its obviously a directive of compromise. If the refs would call team USA with actual FIBA rules, they would hardly score.
Anyways, its a tree - forest situation. Its not about the scorelines and statistics imo, its about the very essence of the game. Its a team game and the NBA has managed to make it a "single player with a supporting cast" game. Which bodes well with records and cool dunks and 3pointers, but when the excitement goes away (which is starting to happen) because those become the norm, then they will have to change it to something else. But thats a slippery slope.
Preach
Perfectly said bro
@@kushberry6679 Except that the US players still scored more than any other team with Fiba rules vs Euro players.
@@flashorb2707 did you even to read his comment?
He said that the refs were very lenient with the FIBA rules and if they actually were following the FIBA rules, USA would have been called for travels in every single possession.
I assume you're from the US, so it's logical to not understand the FIBA rules or why the NBA sucks so much when ti comes it's rules and calls. Read again his comment properly
You’re being hyperbolic, the carry step, jumping with the knee out, not needing to keep your hand at the very top of the ball and other things Literally exist for biomechanical & practical reasons. Look at old school basketball. It’s stilted and awkward, not fun. There’s a a reason basketball as a national sport was dead for a long time before the 80s. The game evolved, offense became better, the game became more exciting, more fun. What the hell is “real basketball” meant to mean? It’s basketball. People are loving it. Get over yourself man!
Note: if you think jumping one leg in with your knee out- which is a natural motion for a human, is unfair to a defender, that’s embarrassing…
And you’re factually wrong about the team aspect swindling, teams don’t win big playing hero ball like you’re describing. No single star with supporting cast wins. Team sport, cohesion has always won. Whether it’s been with a big three or not.
You should be more open minded, honestly. You’re holding on to an ideal that proven by the numbers and by general response, to be impractical and not as enjoyable. And it’s causing you to believe and say things that aren’t true, like the hero ball taking over the game. Definitely not true.
Right with you brother! Crotchety millennial born in ‘90 here. I miss that NBA decade.
Great video. Reasons you were mention I started to think years ago that olympics is the best basketball and only there you can see WHO are the Best players. God bless
I agree. The overemphasis on the three has made EVERYONE-including guys who would've been getting position down low, posting up, back to the basket, in the old days (80's--90's) are now looking for, and attempting 3 point shots. It is ridiculous. I also think the rules about defense of shooters are too strict. Guys who shoot well-like Curry, Trae, Dame are getting calls against their defensive players, when the defensive player isn't even within 3 feet of them. I think that the palming the ball (which is the true reason for the "ankle breakers" and crossovers) is getting out of hand. That needs to be called-like it used to be. I also believe I haven't seen as many alley oop" dunks as I have seen in the game currently. What happened to boxing out, rebounding, guarding cutters, help defense?
I pretty much agree with all of these. Simply enforcing travelling, carrying, and moving screen violations would go a long way. I've also long thought we should do away with both offensive and defensive three second violations. Three in the key made sense when the game was played closer to the basket but that's not really the case now. I'm a little hesitant to bring hand-checking back, to me that would be last on the list but not out of the question. Getting rid of corner threes sounds radical but might actually make a lot of sense. I think a balance needs to be found between the way the game is currently played vs the slow, post oriented game in the 90s, which IMO wasn't as entertaining as the game is now. The NBA could experiment with some of these ideas in the G-League the way the MLB experiments with proposed rule changes like pitch clocks in the minor leagues.
I like the idea of extending the 3pt line the same distance all around.
@@shorewall In theory I do too, but you'd have to extend the width of the court for that to work. Not sure how feasible that would be.
@@Ricky-Spanish That's an option, or you could fix the 3pt line so that it melds with the out of bounds line. It would be the same distance from every point, so there would be no point to try to shoot from the tiny space at the edges, unless you were going out of bounds.
I don’t think illegal screens are much of a problem. It’s almost exactly like holding in the NFL. There are multiple screens on almost every single play, and I see quite a few calls in any game. Carrying, however, is way out of control and makes defense almost impossible.
Carries, Travels, Moving screen, Defensive 3-second rule. With these they can make NBA enjoyable to watch without these crazy dribbles that obviously carrying the ball, attacking the basket with many steps that can take you around the world, moving screens like an idiot, and having an actual defense that can make the game intense.
Yea, NBA rules are disgusting nowadays. Very recently there was that fabolous dunk from Aaron Gordon, refs said it was offensive faul, then they changed the decision, probably because of attractive dunk. But no body mentioned 4 steps Gordon made before dunk. It was disgusting...
@ManeBuki Lmao suns fan, I'm not a fan of anyone. Matter of fact I'm from Serbia and I would like to see Nuggets win, but doesn't change the fact that rules in NBA ar f'd up.
Coach Pop is 100% right
I cant even watch NBA anymore man
Since like 2015 its a fkin joke
i played HS basketball in germany and remember getting absolutely annihilated by stepping mistakes/not dribbling