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Incorrect how? You’re pretty weak without Riewoldt and Cotchin’s valued experience and you have to pick Koschitzke to actually get a forward line up. Not looking good champ
@@musiceditz23 lynch, prestia, dusty, grimes, vlastuin, baker, taranto, hopper, nank, short, broad, bolton, balta, rioli is all experience and thats like the whole team if people think thats bottom 4 they are kidding
trent and jack werent even that great their last two years, having space where we give our young talent time to shine its way we easy top 12 atleast @@musiceditz23
@@musiceditz23as a Richmond fan I do think we have the team to make finals but that’s gonna be while until we do. I don’t think we’re gonna finish right near the bottom of the ladder but we ain’t making top 8. Cotchin and Riewoldt are big losses for the team no doubt but now we’re gonna need to start developing our younger players more. Last thing as well is that Koschitzke might not even play this season. He’s really only a backup forward if lynch cant play.
I reckon it's a good call. I don't see them moving up the ladder especially with a not very good defence. The pickups are nice but grundy isn't the player he used to be, and neither is adams to be honest.
If someone asked me who the biggest swans hater I know of is.. I would hands down say Caden mcdonald every year 🤣 man predicts the swans to be shit EVERY year and EVERY year we blow him out of the water 🤣🤣 Just shows use your head not your heart 🤣🤣
swans just came short for the top 8 last year no way the finish 12th. buddy was good but i got to say he wasn't doing the team any favours now that his out and they have added 2 great assist they are definitely making top 8. and im not even a swans fan
Usually one team rises by 10 or 11, and one team falls by 9 or 10. I was optimistic about the Hawks too but after all of our injuries I'm really doubting it. It's worrying...
How will they finish that low? Cotchin and riewoldt are only losses in terms of leadership they both haven't been good since 2020. Way too much talent on that list to slide that far. If Lynch and Gibcus stay healthy they'll challenge for the 8
@kdzdr considering Richmond had results including Carlton draw Beat Adelaide convincingly at AO 14 point loss to the pies Beat cats at the G, Giants dockers away Sydney at the G And were still relatively competitive with no key forward stocks, saying they'd be a sure thing for bottom 4 doesn't really make sense. They've gotten better and healthier over the off season (of course), brought in great coaches like Yze and Newman, as well as addressing their key tall stocks. If they get railed by injuries to key position players again like they did last year sure, they're a chance, but they've shown when they have Lynch up front they go from a poor team to a fairly dangerous team in a flash. They're not worse than Hawks North or Eagles, and are probably more well rounded than Geelong Freo and essendon. Reckon they'll shock a fair few people (probs no finals though)
Ive got brisbane carlton cllingwood port for my top 4. dockers could be a big improver into the 8. saints the slider out of the 8 best bet $500 on Lions for the flag.
Interesting predictions, mate. Love the lax attitude to your justifications. 'Yeah to be honest that's a bit of a dodgy one, but we move,' he says, in his own video. Just on the Saints, Ross can be a toxic prick at times unfortunately, and it's likely he'll ruffle a few feathers as his tenure at the Saints goes on. If they're to finish top 4 (which I believe they can on talent), they're probably going to want to get it together sooner rather than later, because Ross never departs a footy club leaving it in a better place than when he arrived
Felt like Ross did a lot with a little last year, if they slightly improve I reckon they can push for top 4. Ya have to throw a different one in there otherwise the video would just be me reading out last years ladder aha
Richmond 17th is hilarious. People clearly didn’t watch them last year. Competitive in most games and had a aging Riewoldt as a key forward. Think they will surprise a lot of people
Someone is finally optimistic about the saints, you made my day caden!!! Only person I have seen or heard that isn’t a saints fan that doesn’t have us finishing bottom 6!!! As we got to the 8, 1 by 1, I was getting nervous as when you kept calling out other teams and I was getting so excited. Great predictions caden, hopefully saints can do this well ❤️🤍🖤, if this happens, we probably win a premiership next 2-4 years
I think people are forgetting that we got McKay, Duursma. We have a ton of players that will be in their prime in 2 to 3 years. Exited to see how our backline performs, And also that we have Goldstein who’s has a load of experience. I see the bombers finishing from 11th to 8th
This is a good ladder prediction it is nice and quick but still with some info on the teams but other videos are 20 minutes long and you have to wait ages to hear what the next team is going to be
i feel the Crows will make the top 8, we only missed it last year due to an umpire making the wrong call when we kicked a goal against the swans, the umpire not giving the crows a free kick when Jordan Dawson was bleeding from the nose due to a collision, and we were quit ebad at aiming for goal. If we can fix out aim for goal, we can make the 8
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 every loss it's the umpires. They were robbed right infront of me. If the crows learnt how to kick straight and didn't play catch up football in those games you might’ve actually won. It's not the umpires fault it's also not the goal umpires fault the crows player pushed the swans player to where he was standing behind the line. That caused him to move and find a better angle. Get your mummy to put some champagne in your sippy cup!! Lmao
@@td928 the argument that Adelaide should've just avoided playing catch up footy is redundant in this case. It doesn't matter if they were 5pts, 20pts, or 50pts down, they put in the work to create a comeback against the Swans and the umpire made the wrong decision costing Adelaide a very likely win over Sydney. It's not the same as a team being down by 30 and only kicking 25pts, Adelaide in the 4th qtr made up for the hole they dug themselves in the first 3 qtrs, but the umpire made a bad call.
@@liljacksonn637 it's not an arguement mate its facts and truth. Crows led the game for 1 minute at the very start of the game and were behind for 108 minutes. That's catch up football. Down by 32 at ¾ time. That's catch up football. 4.7 before that behind in the last. 4 rushed from set shots. Thats inaccuracy and tired legs from you guessed it "playing catch up football". 2 mins left in the game hence why it couldn't be overturned by the AFL so can't really blame the umpires when in reality if you were good enough on the night you wouldve been closer than 32 points down at ¾ time. Pretty sure they missed at least 10 free kicks in that last quarter for the Swans which should have been for holding, in the back and high infront of goals but never got paid. Again it's football. It's also valid when a team's supporters constantly blame umpires for every single one of their close losses this year and when it was inaccuracy. It's okay. All you guys do is make excuses. When you earn finals then you'll play it's quite simple. Losing close matches shouldn't be heartbreaking but for crows fans it is because they blame the umpires. 3 years ago Collingwood lost every close game now look at them? 2 years ago Port done exactly the same thing as Collingwood and last year they ended up winning majority of their close games just like they won majority of the close games they were in 2020 and 2021. Melbourne also Geelong Richmond. Just other examples. We'll see how you guys are prepared for close games this year. Will you win or lose. I won't say choke because losing a close game isn't choking is it? Not even choking when that cost you the finals. Just facts.
@@blade5883 or not being good enough to win the close games maybe go check and see exactly how many games the crows lost by less than 6 points and how many of those games you were leading in at ½ or ¾ time? Quite a few, then you can check the inaccuracy across those games also. 1 umpiring decision didn't cost you finals. As a whole if you won those close game's you wouldve been top so stop making excuses seriously. Most pathetic supporter base in the competition. 🤣🤣🤣 the close games are the one's that count. All season you couldn't win them. All season you also couldn't win away. That also helps to make finals. You had alot of chances to close out games. Choked against Collingwood twice after being up @ ¾ time. As a season crows failed. Wasn't an umpires fault even though you really wanted to believe it. Sydney could have also kicked a goal in the last 2 and a half minutes. Instead of complaining do a Collingwood quite simple. Win the close games even if your inaccurate which you were in q4 against the Swans again another reason you didn't win. So dense you lot are
Really eager to see how "Dimmer" performs at the Suns, or, more importantly, how the Suns perform under "Dimmer". Could be a stroke of genius, could be wishful thinking, (which is never a good idea in Footy). Not a Suns fan (go Lions) but can't wait to see what transpires. I think Melbourne are gonna collapse into a disorganized mess because of all the off season dramas, a'la the Bombers after the performance enhancers debacle. Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are condemned to repeat it.
Crows will be top 4. They should have made the 8 last season - they lost a fair chunk of games by under a kick or two and in other games didn’t really get blown off the field.. They’re a going to be a good team this year.
bombers at 5th. Just watch. with mckay down back, gresh forward, duursma swinging back and forth. durham and martin getting older. parish and redman with their long contracts. more confidence. Just watch Caden.
It appears I have underestimated the Swans 😅 farkk
Yep you have
No
Yeah that’s what I thought
Redo the vid
even if they play average for the rest of the season they will still make the 8. They look good....
as a saints fan i've never seen someone rate us so highly
agreed
Fr
If they slightly improve from last year they make the top 4
@@CadenMacDonald yeah
yer no hope makin 8
As a non bias saints fan. I can’t believe what I’m watching
fr bro i’m just like when is he gonna say st kilda
@@yugy5525 never judge a book by its cover
yeah its highly optimistic
Bros got ball to put Collingwood in 4th and saints in 3rd
Ik saints should be in 5/6th but I’m not complaining
This is OUTRAGEOUS Caden!
Boy oh boy wowee, this gets me excited!
Here they come Cardy
@@CadenMacDonald fr
I am finally seeing a ladder prediction with my club at the top, I’ve been waiting years for this 😭
collingwood will go back to back
@@AdamChard-vp1wbu wish
Saints 9 spots above the Swans is insane haha but time will tell, you could be a genius if that eventuates
Saints 1 spot above Pies is insane. That Premiership winning coach Ross Lyon is a genius apparently.
"Second last... the Richmond football club" *LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER SOUND*
Incorrect how? You’re pretty weak without Riewoldt and Cotchin’s valued experience and you have to pick Koschitzke to actually get a forward line up. Not looking good champ
@@musiceditz23 lynch, prestia, dusty, grimes, vlastuin, baker, taranto, hopper, nank, short, broad, bolton, balta, rioli is all experience and thats like the whole team if people think thats bottom 4 they are kidding
@@jwgm6180 No it really isn’t that good if you look at some of the other teams
trent and jack werent even that great their last two years, having space where we give our young talent time to shine its way we easy top 12 atleast @@musiceditz23
@@musiceditz23as a Richmond fan I do think we have the team to make finals but that’s gonna be while until we do. I don’t think we’re gonna finish right near the bottom of the ladder but we ain’t making top 8. Cotchin and Riewoldt are big losses for the team no doubt but now we’re gonna need to start developing our younger players more. Last thing as well is that Koschitzke might not even play this season. He’s really only a backup forward if lynch cant play.
Swans 12th 🤣🤣
Yeah seriously what is that?! We're top four!
Nah your right the swans aren’t 12th their 13th 😂😂😂
I reckon it's a good call. I don't see them moving up the ladder especially with a not very good defence. The pickups are nice but grundy isn't the player he used to be, and neither is adams to be honest.
If someone asked me who the biggest swans hater I know of is.. I would hands down say Caden mcdonald every year 🤣 man predicts the swans to be shit EVERY year and EVERY year we blow him out of the water 🤣🤣
Just shows use your head not your heart 🤣🤣
Swans might be between 12-7
swans just came short for the top 8 last year no way the finish 12th. buddy was good but i got to say he wasn't doing the team any favours now that his out and they have added 2 great assist they are definitely making top 8. and im not even a swans fan
Love it Cados keep up the good work mate ❤🎉
Geelong and Sydney very low why did you do that
Geelong is gonna aleast make top 8
They will do that
This aged well for the cats
Always making elite content. Love what you do
Great vid Caden!
st kilda in front of pies is OUTRAGEOUS
Love your optimism for the Saints but, as a Saints fan I cannot agree
Improve slightly more than last year and your there
Great vid mate, are you going to do a predictions video with all the lads?
Na will only be Dyl and Connor, no one else was keen this year 💪🏻
Great vid dos idk about saints third but i like the bold call!
Really happy with saints spot. I'm glad we get that recognition. Interesting predictions though.
Yeah why wouldn’t you be happy he put you 3rd where everyone else has realistically put you lower in the 8.
@@musiceditz23 go back to music u music addict
@@Mattisalegend Mate why do you care? You put St Kilda in the Grand Final for your bias predictions so my comment shouldn't trigger you
@@musiceditz23 it was mb I started that 5 months ago and I forgot about it
@@musiceditz23 and also we are better than last year
Usually one team rises by 10 or 11, and one team falls by 9 or 10.
I was optimistic about the Hawks too but after all of our injuries I'm really doubting it. It's worrying...
Hey Caden. I reckon that Richmond at 17th is a massive call but I honestly agree
Btw Richmond my guess is Richmond will be near the bottom 4
How will they finish that low? Cotchin and riewoldt are only losses in terms of leadership they both haven't been good since 2020. Way too much talent on that list to slide that far. If Lynch and Gibcus stay healthy they'll challenge for the 8
I don't think it's that massive a call tbh. They'll finish bottom 4 for sure but it depends on how much North improve this year than anything
@kdzdr considering Richmond had results including
Carlton draw
Beat Adelaide convincingly at AO
14 point loss to the pies
Beat cats at the G, Giants dockers away
Sydney at the G
And were still relatively competitive with no key forward stocks, saying they'd be a sure thing for bottom 4 doesn't really make sense. They've gotten better and healthier over the off season (of course), brought in great coaches like Yze and Newman, as well as addressing their key tall stocks. If they get railed by injuries to key position players again like they did last year sure, they're a chance, but they've shown when they have Lynch up front they go from a poor team to a fairly dangerous team in a flash. They're not worse than Hawks North or Eagles, and are probably more well rounded than Geelong Freo and essendon. Reckon they'll shock a fair few people (probs no finals though)
Are yo gonna post a bit more this season
Geelong are making the 8 cados great vid keep posting
what a game with Brisbane vs carlton
Dude! Thanks for putting the Sainters so high! Every ladder prediction I've seen has been 10th - 12th, media's writing us off etc.
Cados any chance of season predictions with lads?
Next week mate!
This is one of those where its so insane that it could actually work better than the others
Interesting predictions Cados, here are mine:
1. Collingwood
2. GWS
3. Brisbane
4. Carlton
5. Adelaide
6. Sydney
7. Port Adelaide
8. Melbourne
9. St Kilda
10. Western Bulldogs
11. Geelong
12. Gold Coast
13. Hawthorn
14. Essendon
15. Richmond
16. Fremantle
17. North Melbourne
18. West Coast
ok i just kept watching and the saints are at 3rd and collingwood is at 4th. This has to be an early april fools joke ahahhahaha
“Mistic Mac” yeah alright man!
Honestly can’t wait for the season
NICE START
dont sleep on the big big sound x
VERY GOOD LADDER👍👍👍(definitely not biased)
Should be a fun season! Go Dees!!! Hope to say g'day to you at one of the games mate!!!
I promise when we finish in top 4 I will never let u forget about this poor prediction 😂
We will also dust the Dees by 50+ opening round. The guy is a clown
@@JMMM1986 hope so
Swans 12th jog on mate 🤣🤣
just cause cats had one bad year that don't mean they aint gonna be bad for a while
oh my god, never thought id see the day you predict essendon higher than richmond and geelong
im a freo fan and thats the most accurate call ive ever heard
Ive got brisbane carlton cllingwood port for my top 4. dockers could be a big improver into the 8. saints the slider out of the 8
best bet $500 on Lions for the flag.
Did you accidentally swap the Swans and Saints???
😂😂 could make me look real silly
swans in 12th... come on man they were a goal away from winning a finals game last season while adding an elite ruck and experienced midfielder
Amazing vid (as allways), also Carlton will be premiers!
Someone’s gonna look silly when geelong win the minor premiership and steamroll there way to another flag
Interesting predictions, mate. Love the lax attitude to your justifications. 'Yeah to be honest that's a bit of a dodgy one, but we move,' he says, in his own video.
Just on the Saints, Ross can be a toxic prick at times unfortunately, and it's likely he'll ruffle a few feathers as his tenure at the Saints goes on. If they're to finish top 4 (which I believe they can on talent), they're probably going to want to get it together sooner rather than later, because Ross never departs a footy club leaving it in a better place than when he arrived
Felt like Ross did a lot with a little last year, if they slightly improve I reckon they can push for top 4. Ya have to throw a different one in there otherwise the video would just be me reading out last years ladder aha
4:47 finally someone has put us the doggies in the Top 8 !!! I’m fine with the 8 spot tbh ngl
Richmond 17th is hilarious. People clearly didn’t watch them last year. Competitive in most games and had a aging Riewoldt as a key forward. Think they will surprise a lot of people
absolutely we are gonna kill it this year
@@phillipdeller you're going to smash it!
@@powercheetah5401 okay but in hindsight if we had more than half of our list available we are damgerous and competitive I am crying inside
LETS GOOOOO!
I'm bloody shattered about Angus retiring but we can go all for way for him, DO IT FOR GUS!
Swap Saints with Adelaide and this list is 10x better haha
Swans in 12th??
Mystic Mac 😂🤩
Someone is finally optimistic about the saints, you made my day caden!!! Only person I have seen or heard that isn’t a saints fan that doesn’t have us finishing bottom 6!!! As we got to the 8, 1 by 1, I was getting nervous as when you kept calling out other teams and I was getting so excited. Great predictions caden, hopefully saints can do this well ❤️🤍🖤, if this happens, we probably win a premiership next 2-4 years
Fr
love the saints call cados hopefully i get to see a premiership from the mighty saints in the next 10 years
Good luck with that. It’s hard when your team is practically allergic to any silverware but it might happen soon
@@musiceditz23 ur allergic to silverware
@MATTISALEGEND Bro that was the worst possible response 💀😂
@MATTISALEGEND If i were allergic to silverware then I wouldn’t have seen my club win 4 flags in my 16 year lifetime
@@musiceditz23 “💀” that’s ur face when I slap it
HE’S BACK!!!!
wowwwww
im bias being a swans fan but geez im a big shocked with this one Caden
I think people are forgetting that we got McKay, Duursma. We have a ton of players that will be in their prime in 2 to 3 years. Exited to see how our backline performs, And also that we have Goldstein who’s has a load of experience. I see the bombers finishing from 11th to 8th
True honestly, people keep forgetting about the Swans aswell too!
This is a good ladder prediction it is nice and quick but still with some info on the teams but other videos are 20 minutes long and you have to wait ages to hear what the next team is going to be
The cats to drop off, Caden same as me my 13th-16th is abit weird. But I can’t wait for this season to start
i feel the Crows will make the top 8, we only missed it last year due to an umpire making the wrong call when we kicked a goal against the swans, the umpire not giving the crows a free kick when Jordan Dawson was bleeding from the nose due to a collision, and we were quit ebad at aiming for goal. If we can fix out aim for goal, we can make the 8
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 every loss it's the umpires. They were robbed right infront of me. If the crows learnt how to kick straight and didn't play catch up football in those games you might’ve actually won. It's not the umpires fault it's also not the goal umpires fault the crows player pushed the swans player to where he was standing behind the line. That caused him to move and find a better angle. Get your mummy to put some champagne in your sippy cup!! Lmao
@@td928 the argument that Adelaide should've just avoided playing catch up footy is redundant in this case. It doesn't matter if they were 5pts, 20pts, or 50pts down, they put in the work to create a comeback against the Swans and the umpire made the wrong decision costing Adelaide a very likely win over Sydney. It's not the same as a team being down by 30 and only kicking 25pts, Adelaide in the 4th qtr made up for the hole they dug themselves in the first 3 qtrs, but the umpire made a bad call.
@@liljacksonn637 it's not an arguement mate its facts and truth. Crows led the game for 1 minute at the very start of the game and were behind for 108 minutes. That's catch up football. Down by 32 at ¾ time. That's catch up football. 4.7 before that behind in the last. 4 rushed from set shots. Thats inaccuracy and tired legs from you guessed it "playing catch up football".
2 mins left in the game hence why it couldn't be overturned by the AFL so can't really blame the umpires when in reality if you were good enough on the night you wouldve been closer than 32 points down at ¾ time.
Pretty sure they missed at least 10 free kicks in that last quarter for the Swans which should have been for holding, in the back and high infront of goals but never got paid. Again it's football.
It's also valid when a team's supporters constantly blame umpires for every single one of their close losses this year and when it was inaccuracy. It's okay. All you guys do is make excuses. When you earn finals then you'll play it's quite simple. Losing close matches shouldn't be heartbreaking but for crows fans it is because they blame the umpires. 3 years ago Collingwood lost every close game now look at them? 2 years ago Port done exactly the same thing as Collingwood and last year they ended up winning majority of their close games just like they won majority of the close games they were in 2020 and 2021. Melbourne also Geelong Richmond. Just other examples. We'll see how you guys are prepared for close games this year. Will you win or lose. I won't say choke because losing a close game isn't choking is it? Not even choking when that cost you the finals. Just facts.
@@td928 that shocking non goal which was a goal robbed the Crom a finals spot Lmao
@@blade5883 or not being good enough to win the close games maybe go check and see exactly how many games the crows lost by less than 6 points and how many of those games you were leading in at ½ or ¾ time? Quite a few, then you can check the inaccuracy across those games also. 1 umpiring decision didn't cost you finals. As a whole if you won those close game's you wouldve been top so stop making excuses seriously. Most pathetic supporter base in the competition. 🤣🤣🤣 the close games are the one's that count. All season you couldn't win them. All season you also couldn't win away. That also helps to make finals. You had alot of chances to close out games. Choked against Collingwood twice after being up @ ¾ time. As a season crows failed. Wasn't an umpires fault even though you really wanted to believe it. Sydney could have also kicked a goal in the last 2 and a half minutes. Instead of complaining do a Collingwood quite simple. Win the close games even if your inaccurate which you were in q4 against the Swans again another reason you didn't win. So dense you lot are
swans so low is crazy
Yeah, I’ll probably regret that
ball knowledge bow bow
swans in 12th is absolutely criminal
Blues first I love you Caden.
Pretty chuffed seeing us in third. I still think we’ll be in latter part of the eight but playing 13 games at Marvel will be hugely advantageous.
Really eager to see how "Dimmer" performs at the Suns, or, more importantly, how the Suns perform under "Dimmer". Could be a stroke of genius, could be wishful thinking, (which is never a good idea in Footy). Not a Suns fan (go Lions) but can't wait to see what transpires.
I think Melbourne are gonna collapse into a disorganized mess because of all the off season dramas, a'la the Bombers after the performance enhancers debacle. Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are condemned to repeat it.
Great video mate I am going to say that my dogs are going to finish top 6 and this is the dogs year and I hope my dogs beat your team in round 1
14th fair. Backline might struggle without another key defender. Guthrie injured again unfortunately.
I reckon GWS in top 4. Team with a lot of depth, lot of heart and importantly very good at winning away from home.
w caden
Me watching when swans are first and bommers second on the ladder
Richmond will not be finishing second last this year
I’m calling a Brisbane v Carlton grand final this season.
W PREDICTIONS EITHER WAY GO SIANTS
Crows will be top 4. They should have made the 8 last season - they lost a fair chunk of games by under a kick or two and in other games didn’t really get blown off the field..
They’re a going to be a good team this year.
Pies at 4th is outrageous
SAINTERS
W PREDICTIONS CADEN W SAINTS 3rd
I like the idea of the saints in third but I think we will finish 5th
yeah
really solid top 8! putting saints third though is outrageous, they definitely good enough to make top 8 but not top 4
People putting Richmond WAY too low you forget the injuries and dimma dipping halfway through last year Richmond with lynch finish top 10
Swap the Saints and the Swans and I may agree with you. I'd still make a few changes but that's the big one
Geelong cats 14th?! There 1st now lol
my ladder would be, Collingwood, Brisbane, Carlton, Dees, Swans, Crows, Giants, Bulldogs, Suns, Power, Freo, Saints, Hawks, Geelong, Bombers, Richmond, North, Eagles
Under 1 hour gang👇
crows beat port in both showdowns last year and never got smashed by any team, easy top 8 for me!
I really need to subscribe to this guy if blues really end up 1st in 2024 💪
1. Lions
2. Pies
3. Blues
4. GWS
5. Dees
6. Power
7. Dogs
8. Crows
9. Saints
10. Swans
11. Cats
12. Bombers
14. Suns
15. Hawks
16. Tigers
17. Eagles
18. Roos
bombers at 5th. Just watch. with mckay down back, gresh forward, duursma swinging back and forth. durham and martin getting older. parish and redman with their long contracts. more confidence. Just watch Caden.
Crows 9th ??????
Did you hear that Angus Brayshaw Was forced to retire because of his concussion
cados brayshaw just retired mate idk how im gon come back from this😓😓
Caden to make you sad I put the Dees at 9th. Because two years of losing finals not good, so I think you’ll guys miss by a couple off percent
Red and black need to be in top 8
What the fuck caden why Geelong 12 😂 anyways almost at 100k 🎉
I think Geelong will miss finals again but still be better than last year
West coast last a bit harsh they are doing a great pre Season and they final played as a team