im enjoying this analysis. However, at 8.14 there is a quite important mistake(?) relating to the reading of the document. He misreads/ supplants the word "Laws "where the document he is reading from says "lands." Then from there goes on to make some major statements based upon this supplantation?...Not having a go here...just wondering what thats all about? Quite a significant slip up really....
Kiaora, Tio just sent me the document he was reading from at the time and what was on the slide was from the Government website what HE was reading from was the ACTUAL WRIT translation has the word LAWS not LAND hence proof of more fkery........ Happy to send you a copy
@@robertperham3571 . Wow. Thanks for this elucidation. And yes...just more proof of deceit and deception on the behalf of the government. It seems these governments are quite adept at this "misinformation and disinformation "that they love to accuse everybody else of . They have obviously been practicing these tactics for centuries now.. No wonder there is so much division. mistrust, and fermented anger out there.
Sounds like spin and manipulation to me. The 1835 Declaration was just that. Read it. It declared authority and control over the North by Northern tribes, Then te Tiriti o Waitangi took that back and included "other" tribes (iwi) in a new Treaty with the Crown. The South Island was taken on the Right of Discovery Also in 1840!. This confirmed Capt Cooks same declaration many years before..
Maoridom ceded sovereignty for equality end of story. There was no other way it could be. Read the whole of the treaty and see what it all adds up to. No one clause has precedence in a contract it is part of a whole.
No because they didn’t have sovereignty to cede. They had no structures in place to govern anything, they had occupancy on the basis of colonisation before the latter day colonists. “ No they didn’t end of story” requires qualification to have any merit as a statement.
@@jamescrydeman540 Lmao how hypocritical of you to put the burden of proof onto others, while asking your claim to be acepted as self-evident truth with no evidence lmao. The audacity of that intellectual dishonesty
@@BingeThinker1814 A hypocrite is someone who says one thing and does the opposite. How have I done that? Galbraith warned us about our inclination to seek proof we have no need to alter a position when confronted with evidence that we might have to. When we do that we merely turn our beliefs into our prejudices.
the Declaration was ONLY signed by some Northland chiefs and a few Waikato ones. It is not universal among Maori, but was superseded by the 1840 treaty. You are flogging a dead hoiho.
A similar bullshit story was made up for american blacks to remove their nativity to the land by saying they were brought over on ships. There are blacks throughout the entire american continent and they do not look african. British settlors are savages and will make up any story to remove your rights and justify their actions.
Coz Ngati Wikitoria have no land and NZ have no land only Maori
Co-Governance is not on the table
How does Te Ture Whenua Maori Land act fit into your korero E Hoa?
I wish I was taught this history and how to run a business when I was in school
can we sue them
im enjoying this analysis. However, at 8.14 there is a quite important mistake(?) relating to the reading of the document. He misreads/ supplants the word "Laws "where the document he is reading from says "lands." Then from there goes on to make some major statements based upon this supplantation?...Not having a go here...just wondering what thats all about? Quite a significant slip up really....
Kiaora, Tio just sent me the document he was reading from at the time and what was on the slide was from the Government website what HE was reading from was the ACTUAL WRIT translation has the word LAWS not LAND hence proof of more fkery........ Happy to send you a copy
@@robertperham3571 . Wow. Thanks for this elucidation. And yes...just more proof of deceit and deception on the behalf of the government. It seems these governments are quite adept at this "misinformation and disinformation "that they love to accuse everybody else of . They have obviously been practicing these tactics for centuries now.. No wonder there is so much division. mistrust, and fermented anger out there.
Sounds like spin and manipulation to me. The 1835 Declaration was just that. Read it. It declared authority and control over the North by Northern tribes, Then te Tiriti o Waitangi took that back and included "other" tribes (iwi) in a new Treaty with the Crown.
The South Island was taken on the Right of Discovery Also in 1840!. This confirmed Capt Cooks same declaration many years before..
Maoridom ceded sovereignty for equality end of story. There was no other way it could be. Read the whole of the treaty and see what it all adds up to. No one clause has precedence in a contract it is part of a whole.
no they didn't end of story
No because they didn’t have sovereignty to cede. They had no structures in place to govern anything, they had occupancy on the basis of colonisation before the latter day colonists. “ No they didn’t end of story” requires qualification to have any merit as a statement.
Revisionist propaganda
@@jamescrydeman540 Lmao how hypocritical of you to put the burden of proof onto others, while asking your claim to be acepted as self-evident truth with no evidence lmao. The audacity of that intellectual dishonesty
@@BingeThinker1814 A hypocrite is someone who says one thing and does the opposite. How have I done that? Galbraith warned us about our inclination to seek proof we have no need to alter a position when confronted with evidence that we might have to. When we do that we merely turn our beliefs into our prejudices.
Sovereignty is not ownership it is supreme power or authority.. The treaty laid out how land could be bought and sold . This whole video is biased
Ok
NGA mihi ano TIO,
the Declaration was ONLY signed by some Northland chiefs and a few Waikato ones. It is not universal among Maori, but was superseded by the 1840 treaty. You are flogging a dead hoiho.
More absolute BS from activists.
Sorry it's the truth 😮
Maori Ori land not Maori’s.
A similar bullshit story was made up for american blacks to remove their nativity to the land by saying they were brought over on ships. There are blacks throughout the entire american continent and they do not look african.
British settlors are savages and will make up any story to remove your rights and justify their actions.
Nope. Land occupied before them also.
Telling yourself lies to make yourself feel better?