Scott Cawthon Solved Midnight Motorist

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  • čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
  • It all comes full circle... in the funniest and least expected way possible.
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Komentáře • 758

  • @anupampramanik7728
    @anupampramanik7728 Před 20 dny +719

    In the code, it describes the car as "The perfect car to get away from a crime scene", and the filename for the car is called "Killer Car", which to me further supplements the idea that we are indeed playing as William Afton and Midnight Motorist takes place the night Charlie died.

    • @polaris-san6170
      @polaris-san6170 Před 18 dny +23

      I have NEVER heard of the the cars description as "the perfect car to get away from a crime scene". I can believe the car being named killercar but why would such a specific line be in the code describing the vehicle. First time I'm hearing of this, and I'm just generally pretty skeptical till I see proof

    • @aziel.212
      @aziel.212 Před 17 dny +11

      @@polaris-san6170I’ve actually heard this for years, but never got confirmation. And i mean YEARS

    • @sheacoburn8328
      @sheacoburn8328 Před 16 dny +41

      @@polaris-san6170 there talking about in the code of five laps at freddys, and the proof is in the video Five Laps at Freddy's (Demo) Unused & Unseen Content | LOST BITS [TetraBitGaming]

    • @galaxiegoddess
      @galaxiegoddess Před 9 dny +1

      I have NEVER heard of this that’s crazy

  • @AaronBuzzing
    @AaronBuzzing Před 20 dny +737

    the habit of fnaf fans to question and deny the most straightforward simple solution to the lore and instead try to dig in for more complicated explanation will always fascinate me lol

    • @dinjarind
      @dinjarind Před 20 dny +85

      many times Scott had almost drawn out the lore in the games yet people would still try to make conspiracies on top of it 🥴

    • @AaronBuzzing
      @AaronBuzzing Před 19 dny +56

      @@dinjarind oh fr, that's exactly one of my issue with fnaf theories in general
      ppl question an aspect of the lore -> scott release ambiguous explanation that raise more question than answer -> ppl question said explaination
      its a never ending cycle lol, thats why i take most lore theory with a grain of salt and believe what i like to believe and the most logical ones lol 😆

    • @matti.8465
      @matti.8465 Před 19 dny +59

      they have a tendency to obsess over insignificant details that don't really matter. I remember when people argued about which FNAF 2 animatronic did the bite of 87, like it changes anything.
      Just the minigame being called "later that night" and the car being purple should have been enough.

    • @susumeyun
      @susumeyun Před 17 dny +26

      I think it's because there's this concept of "if it's too easy for us to figure out, then it's not right". FNaF fans have had to dig for small "clues" for a long time (see: Scott's website code) so they probably think they HAVE to go around doing that for everything else

    • @yoavboaz1078
      @yoavboaz1078 Před 16 dny +1

      What do you mean? Whats your theory?

  • @christophecrist2171
    @christophecrist2171 Před 20 dny +1201

    Maybe the reason William is mustard color in the minigame is because he’s only purple for children as, "What is seen in shadows is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child."
    Henry made the Midnight Motorist game and programmed the way William looks, as the color of Springtrap.

    • @Wallmart5
      @Wallmart5 Před 20 dny +51

      The colors also might reference the business man in the FNAF Pizzeria Simulator cutscenes, the same guy wears both orange and purple suits (he even holds a phone in one of the images like purple guy was thought to hold a phone).

    • @Raviness.
      @Raviness. Před 20 dny +15

      To me the yellow either implies that either this is william before he completely lost himself (purple color representing him being exactly when he went full psycho/mad scientist) or that he was just drunk, or both (before he lost himself and started murdering kids left and right, and while he was drunk)
      And its also maybe the exact same day/night when Charlie was murdered. He got drunk and did the unthinkable then went recklessly driving until he got home. Maybe once he got sober after doing that is when we could assume that he 'became purple' basically (once he realised what he had done).

    • @vaultassassin
      @vaultassassin Před 20 dny +7

      He's yellow because he never changed out of the Spring Bonnie suit.

    • @Raviness.
      @Raviness. Před 20 dny +5

      @@vaultassassin i doubt because if so, scott would definitely give more detail to him such as at least giving him rabbit ears.
      I dont remember which but either spring bonnie or bonnie were created because of nightmares scott had, and im sure if he was to make such detail clear, he would make it more apparent.
      And another major reason as why it cant be the case, is that its heavily raining in midnight motorist. Everyone knows and remembers what happened to William when some water droplets made their way into the suit. Now imagine walking in that deadly trap of a suit in a storm.

    • @vaultassassin
      @vaultassassin Před 20 dny +2

      @@Raviness. It's likely the cloth version of the suit similar to Help Wanted. This would put the events after the multiple springlock failures and possibly the Bite of 83, since those costumes would be out of commission.
      So the sequence of events is, Afton leaves work but doesn't change so he isn't recognized. Kills Charlie, drives away, and removes his mask so he can see clearly enough to get home.

  • @IronVigilante451
    @IronVigilante451 Před 20 dny +1880

    I say he's yellow, because scott used purple for characters in shadows. We're playing as afton, so his body wouldnt be hidden, thus no purple. Scott had to use another color for him, and picked springbonnie yellow.
    Edit:Look, Why he choose Yellow over Purple Im not sure. Also not quite sure why Mike is purple, could have been a nice thematic thing scott wanted to do. I could senslessly argue further as to why Im right (already did that...) or I can admit I have no concrete reasons to why.

    • @Mikumo91
      @Mikumo91 Před 20 dny +78

      Then it's his dumbest decision since the mini game is called midnight motorist. It's the middle of the night, that dude is constantly in the darkness.

    • @rachelparker335
      @rachelparker335 Před 20 dny +42

      ​@@Mikumo91Midnight "Motorist". Headlights babe.

    • @Seloliva1015
      @Seloliva1015 Před 20 dny +23

      Maybe he is not in a uniform here?

    • @Mikumo91
      @Mikumo91 Před 20 dny +8

      ​@@rachelparker335 You're only illuminated by headlights when the engine is going and standing in front of the car. That's not the case here. I don't see any Street lights either, especially when the Man is walking behind the house to see the broken window.

    • @Mikumo91
      @Mikumo91 Před 20 dny +4

      ​@@Seloliva1015 Then he must have been yellow in the Save him minigame as well. It's the same night.

  • @matti.8465
    @matti.8465 Před 19 dny +77

    Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct one. The FNAF fandom has a big problem with overthinking small details, or refusing to accept the obvious answer simply because they don't like it.

    • @MaeRose26
      @MaeRose26 Před 9 dny +2

      truthfully, the biggest reason why everyone has been overthinking everything is because of Matpat, the biggest overthinker there is

  • @aeronphillips8876
    @aeronphillips8876 Před 20 dny +285

    5:36 The proper term for what Circus Baby's shoes are jester or bell slippers! They're usually just fabric, leather, and lacing with a bell on the end, historically and since she's a jester inspired character that lines up with her design, even if the shoes themselves look a lil wonky! (Calling them shoes is fine, they are, I just happen to be fascinated with clowns, mimes, and jesters and she's a prime outlet for that! 10000/10 video, as always!)

    • @EvilParagon4
      @EvilParagon4 Před 20 dny +8

      I think he was more just confused between calling them footwear or feet.
      Since she isn't actually wearing shoes, her "jester slippers" _are_ her feet, not something over her feet.

    • @tikimillie
      @tikimillie Před 20 dny +1

      Where i come from we call them sable shoes

    • @aeronphillips8876
      @aeronphillips8876 Před 19 dny +1

      @@EvilParagon4 That did not even occur to me-- You make a very valid point

  • @GaybrohamStinkton
    @GaybrohamStinkton Před 17 dny +25

    My guy, its VERY simple. Wilhelm Assman wanted to ruin the owner of the car, he ran an child over and the car became sentient. Wilhelm (at the time an car mechanic) began an relationship with it.
    He needed to blackball the guy to buy the car (he later kills himself in FNAF World) so asks his coding friend (Henry) to make it into a game.
    He marries the car and then makes her robort children.
    He has actively went out of his way to show you this. You arent playing as "Midnight Motorist" in Five Naps, you are playing as the eponomous "Midnight Motor". There is ONE notable car. Its purple. Why do you think Wilhelm just happens to be purple? Its because he loves the car.

    • @Cryonide
      @Cryonide  Před 17 dny +1

      Yeah.

    • @242noxy8
      @242noxy8 Před 11 dny +2

      Why did I only realize this was a joke after the 3rd paragraph🤦‍♂️😭

  • @johnnyqueue7113
    @johnnyqueue7113 Před 20 dny +794

    I don’t know jackshit about FNAF, but I completely agree

    • @marshthagamer9375
      @marshthagamer9375 Před 20 dny +34

      W comment

    • @averagehater13
      @averagehater13 Před 20 dny +7

      69th like

    • @matthew...4961
      @matthew...4961 Před 20 dny +32

      I got all the books , games and have watched idk how many hours of videos. And I still know nothing.

    • @mrs_plinkett
      @mrs_plinkett Před 20 dny +4

      lmaoo thats the greatest comment ive ever seen in a fnaf video lol

    • @clamoon
      @clamoon Před 20 dny +20

      You're not far behind the entire community, we still don't know shit 😅

  • @CottonArsonist
    @CottonArsonist Před 20 dny +523

    Imagine Scott was just like "hmm, i'll add a funny little minigame where ohh some guys kid gets lured by an animatronic!"
    and it accidentally becomes one of the most debated parts of the lore

    • @thevioletskull8158
      @thevioletskull8158 Před 20 dny +31

      Yeah he probably did plan for Willam to be yellow guy or did but didn't think about if it logically fit into the story enough (no offence)

    • @epicsponge7934
      @epicsponge7934 Před 20 dny +4

      A lot of the mysteries in the story don’t have answers

    • @jk844100
      @jk844100 Před 20 dny +18

      There’s a lot of things I think are like that, like the Springlock suit in sister location.
      People debate what suit it is and that it must be important. They also say because Scott didn’t say what suit it was in the first Dawko interview that confirms that it must be important.
      I think Scott thought “wouldn’t it be cool to have a gameplay section where you’re trapped in a springlock suit and have to stop the springlocks from going off”
      So he put it in the game and the reason he doesn’t answer who the suit is, is because there isn’t an answer; he didn’t put any thought into which suit it would be.
      People always say “Scott doesn’t do meaningless Easter eggs” but Scott has never claimed that. That’s something that MatPat just said in one of his videos to validate a piece of evidence he used.

    • @ClassyCorgi
      @ClassyCorgi Před 12 dny +1

      @@jk844100I agree with this so hard. Sometimes, things were probably added just because they’d make for a cool/scarier horror game experience, not necessarily as lore hints with deep meaning or logical answers

  • @Odyssey_Central
    @Odyssey_Central Před 20 dny +128

    Personally I think all 3 of pizzeria simulators major mini games were meant to show the origins for important characters. One being the puppets origin, another being for Springtrap (since we know Susie was the first MCI kid), so I think midnight motorist is maybe trying to give an origin for Michael? My best guess is maybe this is the moment he decides to investigate the Fazbear restaurants

    • @qwacktrap1459
      @qwacktrap1459 Před 20 dny +26

      For midnight motorist I think it’s supposed to show how William treated his last remaining son. Because if not, we have no real view on how the Afton family was post bite/pre scoop. Honestly I think that’s a pretty integral thing to show, and helps builds William’s character in the games.

    • @livrax5827
      @livrax5827 Před 20 dny +8

      Odyssey Central? what are you doing here?

    • @gamesuarx
      @gamesuarx Před 16 dny +2

      "Another being of Springtrap"? What? How tf is Fruity Maze about Springtrap? You literally said yourself it's about Susie. Springtrap isn't even there, just Purple Guy in the Yellow Rabbit suit, him becoming Springtrap was shown in FNAF 3.

    • @Odyssey_Central
      @Odyssey_Central Před 10 dny +1

      @@gamesuarx it’s just quick and simple wording that everyone can understand. This is the origin of him using the spring Bonnie suit for murder is what I mean.

  • @Ballsniffa3000
    @Ballsniffa3000 Před 20 dny +119

    I guess the explanation for the house change is that the Afton’s moved house after the death of the crying child. William kept the previous house to create a place to store the funtime animatronics and do his experiments.

    • @SubZero-hs9xc
      @SubZero-hs9xc Před 14 dny

      The experiment are confirmed to be in the underground bunker

    • @ShadoeLandman
      @ShadoeLandman Před 13 dny +3

      Right. It would almost be odd in the US to not move some time during the story.

    • @titoglazer
      @titoglazer Před 10 dny

      if he did move houses after ccs death, crying child would be buried at the old house and not at the new one as the mound of dirt implies

    • @Ballsniffa3000
      @Ballsniffa3000 Před 9 dny

      @@titoglazer this all really depends on how long the CC was in a coma and if William got his body back. I personally the FNAF 4 box is where William put CC remains and buried him in that forest once they moved.

  • @DJFNaFMan
    @DJFNaFMan Před 20 dny +82

    Golden Freddy appearing out of Michael’s window is something that pretty much happens in the FNaF Movie!!!
    Golden Freddy goes to Abby’s house and Abby leaves with Golden Freddy minus the broken window

    • @samwaisanen8972
      @samwaisanen8972 Před 19 dny +5

      I think he just used a broken window because it would be tough to portray an open window in that art style. But if it is important then it is a bit strange Mike would shatter his bedroom window to go outside. Maybe William locks him in there all day.

    • @DJFNaFMan
      @DJFNaFMan Před 19 dny +3

      @@samwaisanen8972 the broken window is definitely important if style of teeth and toes are.

    • @Takejiro24
      @Takejiro24 Před 19 dny +2

      ​​@@samwaisanen8972 The Runaway (whom I also believe to be Mike) breaking the window instead of.....opening it is a choice, I guess. But, William locking the window (as you suggested) makes sense since the kid has a habit of running away.

  • @Cinnamowo
    @Cinnamowo Před 19 dny +41

    Somehow the guy who drives the same purple car on the same rainy day as when Charlie was killed turns out to be William. Crazy

    • @Cryonide
      @Cryonide  Před 19 dny +2

      Yeah. Crazy how the Purple Guy turned out to be Orange.

  • @Korra228
    @Korra228 Před 20 dny +311

    I never understood how people thought it wasn't William in the minigame. I thought it was beyond obvious.

    • @derpythean-comdoge8608
      @derpythean-comdoge8608 Před 20 dny +5

      it’s not. why would there be animatronic footprints if that is afton house and it takes place after charlie’s death?

    • @Korra228
      @Korra228 Před 20 dny +154

      @@derpythean-comdoge8608 1. "Later that night"
      2. Purple car
      3. Rain just like in the Puppet minigame
      4. Father
      5. House in a forest just like in FNaF 4
      6. Using FFPS to tie loose ends (why would Scott show a new/irrelevant character in this minigame?)
      Who else could it have been?

    • @Canadian_Goose0
      @Canadian_Goose0 Před 20 dny +83

      @@Korra228no no no.. he’s yellow though
      (It is totally the Aftons how TF can people keep disagreeing?)

    • @brandonjslea1562
      @brandonjslea1562 Před 20 dny +25

      "He's yellow" is a strong argument though.
      I've yet to see a single remotely plausible argument as to why this character whos always portrayed as purple is suddenly represent as a yellow figure.

    • @Anonyomus_commenter
      @Anonyomus_commenter Před 20 dny +69

      @@brandonjslea1562Because purple shows shadow. This is the only time we see him in light. Why would CC be scared in fnaf 4 of his dad putting someone in a suit? Because he can’t see it’s his dad, he’s in shadows.

  • @jacklyncraywood
    @jacklyncraywood Před 20 dny +44

    Afton doesn’t necessarily need to have had multiple houses, he could’ve just moved. Moving closer to work, closer to Fredbear’s.

    • @SirStendar
      @SirStendar Před 18 dny +6

      i think its the way aroud, moving to the woods, after CC death

    • @jacklyncraywood
      @jacklyncraywood Před 17 dny +3

      @@SirStendar Good point! Could have been that way as well.

  • @_.incredible_magnum._291
    @_.incredible_magnum._291 Před 20 dny +41

    Idk why people thought midnight motorist wasnt about the aftons. Pizzaria sim was rapping up the story. So why introduce a brand new family we've never seen before???
    Not just that but theres more supporting evidence that the minigame was about afton

    • @gamesuarx
      @gamesuarx Před 9 dny +1

      Because the Missing Children have existed for FAR longer than the Afton family. The fact that the families of the Missing Kids were affected by the 5MCI is something that the franchise has stated all the way back in TSE (again, before the Afton family was even properly introduced). And given that FFPS is a game almost entirely about Henry's efforts to put the 5 Missing Children and the other victims, aka (Molten Freddy and the other robots) to rest, the idea that MM was about one of the kids, f.e. Gabriel, wasn't at all far-fetched. In fact, MM is one of the three minigames required to unlock the Lorekeeper ending, which shows us the graves of the 5 Missing Children and Charlotte, NO Afton family members

    • @_.incredible_magnum._291
      @_.incredible_magnum._291 Před 8 dny +1

      @@gamesuarx yes, but the evidence around midnight motorist favors it being about Afton.
      From the game file being labeled "later that night" to the same purple car being seen after Charlotte Emily died. To the guy driving it being an orange or yellow sprite.
      Pizza simulator wasn't just about giving the dead victims rest. But was also about finally concluding the Afton story. So it wouldn't make sense to introduce a brand new family by using the same colors associated with Afton. On top of that, we've never been given any in game evidence that Afton used his suit outside the pizzeria. So the Freddy footprints outside the window were likely the crying child telling Michael it's him. And beaconing him to his grave.
      I like the theory that it isn't Afton. It's just that there isn't enough supporting evidence that theory is correct

  • @BH_Animations
    @BH_Animations Před 20 dny +23

    To simplify: Fnaf theorists sometimes think too much

    • @lonerrite
      @lonerrite Před 19 dny +7

      maybe next time don't make a lore with convoluted hints which turn out to have little subtlety confusing fans
      this is what happens when you make a minigame which you can interpret in 100s of various ways yet expecting someone to find a singular correct answer

    • @TheResidence.mp4
      @TheResidence.mp4 Před 9 dny +1

      ​@@lonerriteYeah, we can't ever forget that all of this overthinking is only possible because the source material has to be one of the most slipshod and purposefully hard to understand narratives of our time

  • @Sganarell
    @Sganarell Před 19 dny +23

    The fnaf community solving midnight motorist again and again is the modern Sisyphus

  • @mushtombofficial
    @mushtombofficial Před 20 dny +65

    Also, the yellow is exactly opposite purple on a colour wheel. I just assumed they did it so his sprite was actually visable in the dark & rain

    • @samwaisanen8972
      @samwaisanen8972 Před 19 dny +9

      Yeah I think that’s why too. Scott probably thought the purple car was enough.

    • @crimson7
      @crimson7 Před 11 dny +1

      yellow text is also often used for william, if i remember correctly

  • @finalfrightyt
    @finalfrightyt Před 20 dny +78

    Conclusive counterpoint to the Not-Afton house theory. Recently in Scott approved FNAF merch for the 10th anniversary we saw that CBEAR is underneath the Afton house as we see Mike's TV in the same location as it and that CBEAR is underneath FNAF 6 which was even confirmed back in Ruin where we directly went into CBEAR underneath the pizzaplex which this merch directly shows too. Also the rooms in CBEAR are directly connected to the bunker and not any houses as we saw in Dittophobia and are not near any other houses, this means the map of CBEAR is also a testing chamber and not a actual real place above it which may be implying that maybe JR'S is Fredbear's which is on top of the recreation of it, it's confusing but what we do know is that what we saw in FNAF 4 isn't reality. The Afton's have only ever likely had a single house & under it are experiment chambers made to test child subjects. Also a common misconception is that the FNAF 4 house is in a neighborhood. This is provably false. In FNAF 4's title screen we see that the Afton house is in a forest devoid of a lot of life & even in curse of Dreadbear & HW2 we see that the Afton house is not only near Fallfest & a massive lake which are both in secluded forests just like the map of Midnight Motorist in both the minigame and map.

    • @blademasterzero
      @blademasterzero Před 20 dny +20

      I can’t for the life of me manage to gather what “CBEAR” is an acronym for. What is it?

    • @yohann3825
      @yohann3825 Před 20 dny +18

      @@blademasterzerocircus baby’s entertainment and rental

    • @finalfrightyt
      @finalfrightyt Před 20 dny +7

      @@blademasterzero Circus Baby's Entertainment & Rentals

    • @angrywaffle427
      @angrywaffle427 Před 18 dny +14

      Nah they're talking about the sea bear. You gotta draw a circle and stay in it, just trust me

    • @gamesuarx
      @gamesuarx Před 16 dny +1

      Merch can't be used for lore. CBEAR isn't underneath the FNAF 6 location.

  • @Lumberjack_king
    @Lumberjack_king Před 20 dny +112

    I feel so bad for you all your work crushed because of a car accessory

  • @dominator80053
    @dominator80053 Před 20 dny +9

    William afton literally has an underground bunker, a sports car, a pizza establishment, and smart animatronics in 1983, I think it might be safe to say he has multiple houses, maybe the house in fnaf 4 was a replica to experiment on micheal and that house in the minigame is his actual house

  • @loganjohnson2463
    @loganjohnson2463 Před 20 dny +59

    I find it really funny that at this point in the franchise it’s “pretty reasonable” to assume that footprints in the dirt mean that “The dead younger sibling of the main character is possessing a golden robot made for a Chuck E Cheese restaurant parody and is calling out to his brother from the other side of a window to help him before they’re father represented by a mustered colored stick figure comes home and experiments on haunted metal to build murderous plastic clown robots some day.” When did this series get so insane?

    • @Cryonide
      @Cryonide  Před 20 dny +29

      @@loganjohnson2463 Y’know, fun fact. At a certain point in time, this story was pretty simple. FNAF 1-3 in a vacuum isn’t *that* hard to solve, I don’t think. You might not have an answer to *every* question, but probably most.
      Then FNAF4 happened. And then Sister Location happened. And it’s only gotten crazier ever since.

    • @sacrificiallamb4568
      @sacrificiallamb4568 Před 15 dny +1

      @@Cryonide Even FNAF World made sense of things.

  • @luluzin5022
    @luluzin5022 Před 20 dny +134

    The problem with CC being the only spirit in Golden Freddy is that one child from the MCI is missing an animatronic. I don't believe that a child that was in a comma at their own house, under the watch of their family, could be lumped together in the same incident that involved 4 other kids being lured into a back room in a restaurant and killed. Even if William reported that CC was kidnapped, why would the police assume he was taken by the Freddy's killer, as opposed to a separate incident altogether? CC can't be the 5th missing kid. However, if the MCI has not happened yet in midnight motorist, then CC would be the only spirit in Golden Freddy at that point in time. So I have no problem with your theory overall, I just disagree that CC is the only spirit in Golden Freddy forever. Either he shares it with Cassidy, or he doesn't possess GF at all.

    • @Cryonide
      @Cryonide  Před 20 dny +64

      Oh, I don’t think that CC is the only kid inside of Golden Freddy at all. I fully believe that he’s in there with Cassidy. I just think that *he’s* the one who calls out to Mike, while Cassidy is the one who attacks him.

    • @luluzin5022
      @luluzin5022 Před 20 dny +6

      @@Cryonide That makes sense!

    • @TheCollector2401
      @TheCollector2401 Před 20 dny +14

      @@CryonideThis seems like a popular idea in the FNAF community and I want to agree with it. However the problem is that according to the conversations in the Logbook Crying Child can’t see what’s going on meaning he wouldn’t be able to see Mike and thus call out to him.

    • @justice8718
      @justice8718 Před 20 dny +3

      I don’t even see the Bite Victim being in Fredbear simply because William had his entire body to himself.

    • @SlackSulek
      @SlackSulek Před 20 dny +6

      What if "it's me" Is just cassidy trying to scare Mike because William and Michael look alike huh....maybe CC was Never even in Golden freddy​@@Cryonide

  • @jeremymorris345
    @jeremymorris345 Před 20 dny +22

    Something I want to point out that explains the graves from Help Wanted 2.
    We know that Charlie has to die before the MCI because of Henry's line. So why is she last? It's not the death order, it's the put at rest order.
    We see in Happiest Day that Charlie's mask is the last to go down, implying she doesn't rest till after the others do first. Or at least that's an interpretation of it. We know from UCN that the Puppet is still "very aware". Implying that along with the Vengeful Spirit aka Golden Freddy, she is still around. However, if and when the Vengeful Spirit does rest like Old Man Consequences suggest. So too then Charlie will finally rest after them.

    • @Cryonide
      @Cryonide  Před 20 dny +5

      I've considered this before, actually. The only problem that I have with it is that it kinda invalidates the order of the other 4 animatronics, since to my understanding, they all move on around the same time.

    • @jeremymorris345
      @jeremymorris345 Před 20 dny +8

      @@Cryonide I mean, tbf, we don't have anything directly proving that all 4 pass on at exactly the same time. I could see an argument that the main 4 pass on in the order then died, and the other 2 take more time because of Puppet's nature and Golden Freddy's Vengefulness.

    • @hypn0tic109
      @hypn0tic109 Před 18 dny

      Bro just didn't play or watch help wanted 2

    • @jeremymorris345
      @jeremymorris345 Před 18 dny

      @@hypn0tic109 I did, and there isn't anything that directly says this is the death order.

  • @theletterm2756
    @theletterm2756 Před 20 dny +15

    I mean, not everyone lives in the same house all their lives. The Aftons might have moved around, especially if they needed more or less space as their children were born/ were killed. It doesn't necessarily have to be they owned multiple homes at once.

  • @GamingWarlord64
    @GamingWarlord64 Před 20 dny +132

    Something's are best left forgotten for now

  • @scarletsabre8383
    @scarletsabre8383 Před 20 dny +11

    Regarding Henry's "A wound first inflicted on me", if it doesn't refer to Charlie, then I think it could possibly refer to Crying Child. I've always suspected there's some kind of crossover between the Emilys and the Aftons, which would explain why William goes for Charlie, and in the film, travels across STATES to kidnap Garrett.
    My half-theory is that Mrs Afton left William for Henry, either taking CC, or William suspects that CC is actually Henry's kid and drives Mrs Afton away (Think of the "Clara, the baby isn't mine!" scenes from Immortal and the Restless). Either way, CC dies, which inflicts a wound on Henry, and then only gets worse when William decides to kill Charlotte, either to hurt Henry more, or as some twisted "If I can't have what is/should be mine" mindset.
    I should really hammer out my thoughts on this idea properly sometime, but I really think there HAS to be some kind of crossover between those two families.

  • @Sprigzz
    @Sprigzz Před 20 dny +7

    Ah yes, the creator has solved the lore for his own game/j

  • @NamelessCowboyHSR
    @NamelessCowboyHSR Před 20 dny +13

    I love the Your Turn to Die music throughout the video

  • @DILFDylF
    @DILFDylF Před 16 dny +4

    This interpretation also fits the "you play as Michael in FNAF 1-6" theory, which I personally believe is the story Scott was telling

  • @gaminganimators7000
    @gaminganimators7000 Před 20 dny +69

    My theory about Midnight Motorist's location is England. This would explain the road in FLAF, Phone Guy being unsure about Fredbear's Family Diner, the Afton's accents. Now, I don't know if those trees (pine trees?) grow in England but Agony doesn't exist in reality so I'll let it slide

    • @justice8718
      @justice8718 Před 20 dny +9

      I heard that it could be William’s past when he was a child.

    • @lythough7749
      @lythough7749 Před 20 dny +7

      Good theory but ain't no way scott paid that much attention to it

    • @davismorgan99
      @davismorgan99 Před 20 dny +37

      @@lythough7749the fnaf community is always caught between “not everything was done intentionally” and “Scott can never possibly make mistakes about his own lore”

    • @remy120
      @remy120 Před 20 dny +7

      those trees do infact grow in parts of england

    • @prosecutorwalton
      @prosecutorwalton Před 20 dny +7

      @@justice8718 Counter point; why is the minigame labeled "later that night", then?

  • @Sweatrgodd.
    @Sweatrgodd. Před 20 dny +19

    It’s William, Mike is the runaway and the foot prints are golden Freddy’s. His brother, appearing to him.

  • @orliag218
    @orliag218 Před 20 dny +36

    3:50 about "later that night". That name was found in the game files. And after Scotts last interwie to Dawko, i dont think that it makes much sense to give deeper meaning to such thinks. For me, later that night, is just later midNIGHT motorist night

    • @Tomblee
      @Tomblee Před 20 dny +15

      I think that only applies to discoveries made pre-launch of a game. Scott said he treats the file names as presets whilst developing, and upon completing the game he will update the file names to something more fitting of the asset.
      This didn't happen as he mentioned with security breach because steel wool hadn't adopted that philosophy of game making and were unprepared for the amount of work fnaf fans do digging into source code.
      Since this was fnaf six and 'later that night' was only discovered post-launch, I'd figure it was intendeded to have meaning, otherwise Scott would've probably named it "second racing stage" or something if he just wanted to give it a file name he could recognise.

    • @Flummoxyn
      @Flummoxyn Před 20 dny +12

      In the FLAF demo theres some currently unused text meant to be used for descriptions to the carts and the characters, the Midnight Motor cart mentions that its perfect for smooth cruising and fleeing crime scenes
      Dunno if thatll make it into the final game but its worth mentioning

    • @dumflame
      @dumflame Před 20 dny +4

      What else would “Later that night” refer to? Lets be honest, we see that the Puppet mini-game is at night and in the same game, we a get a mini-game’s code as “Later that night”. What other night would it be referring too? Why would it be a different night, from a different event and possibly a different game?

  • @princejohnneyfan
    @princejohnneyfan Před 20 dny +4

    I think William is yellow in MM because it’s from his perspective. Yellow and purple are opposite on the color wheel, so it’s showing the difference between third person and first person. The suit he uses to kill is the same color, so since we know he has a special attachment to spring Bonnie it’d make sense that in a first person view he’d be represented in yellow.

  • @gordonramslay9955
    @gordonramslay9955 Před 15 dny +3

    In fnaf 4 there’s a lot of hospital imagery, such as the flatline. Which is why people initially thought it was the Crying Child being tormented by the nightmares after being bitten. However, I think it can be explained by the hospital imagery being a part of the nightmare and not real, like Michael’s being tortured by flashbacks of when his brother was dying in hospital.

  • @DJBurns-jq8mn
    @DJBurns-jq8mn Před 20 dny +7

    Charlie died in 1983 via HW2 and the Novels which is the same year as Crying Child, people saying otherwise is just coping. This heavily implies what CC saw was Charlie dead with the Puppet next to her those having him think the animatronics kill kids and thats why he is afraid of the Animatronics.

    • @Lordoftheskies15
      @Lordoftheskies15 Před 16 dny +1

      This leaves Afton motiveless so people are less inclined to believe it.

    • @DJBurns-jq8mn
      @DJBurns-jq8mn Před 16 dny +1

      @@Lordoftheskies15 not true, he can be mad that Henry has a happy family while he doesn't, William could of been hearth broken from his divorce, people could of praised Henry for everything while ignoring William.
      William was likely always crazy as shown with him having the bunker in 1983. He definitely had a passion for the franchise and the characters and he can still be a good person then as implied by The Real Jake story saying the dad cared for his son when he wasn't around but many people can be set off and act harshly from little things.

    • @Kabal39
      @Kabal39 Před 14 dny

      Saying people who don’t believe your theory is coping is literally cope

    • @DJBurns-jq8mn
      @DJBurns-jq8mn Před 14 dny

      @@Kabal39 mate it's fact at this point and that's no theory. And also saying stuff like that shows your coping with the idea it isn't.

  • @sayclown8260
    @sayclown8260 Před 20 dny +3

    In Into the Pit, Jeff's Pizza opens up in a building where an old Freddy's once was, so maybe the same thing is going on with JR's. William isn't allowed in because he probably got carried away there, which would make even more sense if he got emotional and drunk while inside the building where his beloved business was once thriving. Perhaps Golden Freddy was leading Michael to JR's to show him something related to Freddy's inside of the back rooms of the building.

  • @RABOXD
    @RABOXD Před 20 dny +9

    I always thought that people were crazy for not thinking it was afton in midnight motorist like, there so much solid evidence that was pointing towards it being aftons car that for people to still says its not him is actually insane to me. Atleast we can confidently say that Mustard man is William afton its time to lay it to rest.

  • @FnaftheUltimateking2
    @FnaftheUltimateking2 Před 20 dny +4

    ‏‪3:58‬‏ 1983
    we have a evidence that confirms this when you wrote in Fnaf help wanted 2 when you wort 1983 you will get the puppet doll

  • @meh7973
    @meh7973 Před 9 dny +2

    3:40 "never personally been a fan of this answer" Brother in Christ what else could it be?? The FNAF 2 minigame that the puppet minigame alludes to in Pizzaria Simulator doesnt even originally have rain, Scott made the decision for them to have these points of connection (purple car+kid left outside the restaurant and killed+rain). Later that night, the fnaf 2 minigame and the Puppet minigame all have atleast 2 of these three elements each

  • @marcus549
    @marcus549 Před 20 dny +5

    I'm somehow not totally conviced this is a confirmation though. These are licenced games and scott himself said in the latest dawko interview that he mostly just leaves them for themselves to make the games(as with into the pit). I feel that the purple car could easily have been added by some creator of five laps at freddies who headcanons that the yellow guy is william afton.
    Would not be suprised if this was changed or corrected in the future as you said.

  • @opalinna5476
    @opalinna5476 Před 20 dny +3

    My theory for why the houses are different is maybe because Aftons are going through divorce and this is just William's home as opposed to their shared home in FNaF 4 minigames. That or perchance they moved out after CC's death, to escape the bad memories. Weak theory, but possible.
    Also, in Help Wanted 2 the code to get the puppet plushie is 1983, which implies that Charlie died that year, likely soon after CC's death.

  • @beniciogonzalez3488
    @beniciogonzalez3488 Před 20 dny +8

    11:53 not me saying the belt💀

    • @Cryonide
      @Cryonide  Před 20 dny +5

      You're going to hell LMAO

    • @HitTheFan16
      @HitTheFan16 Před 20 dny

      @@Cryonide Some kids need it

    • @kikor4954
      @kikor4954 Před 20 dny

      ​@@HitTheFan16but the thing is theres no median of judgement

  • @ivon1671
    @ivon1671 Před 20 dny +3

    I understand why he was yellow in that minigame, but I still think it could have been done so much better. Like, add a purple shade on the edge or something. It would have looked cooler and everyone would still know who it is.

    • @Nyxnius
      @Nyxnius Před 20 dny +3

      They’re complementary colors, I think that was his attempt. It’s opposite the color wheel, a purple shade would make it brown

  • @krischainz
    @krischainz Před 17 dny +1

    Honestly I think Elizabeth was buried in the dirt spot instead of the crying child. Crying child got bit at fredbears during the day and died in a hospital, people saw and knew about his death. Elizabeth died in a "gas leak", alone with no one to see. There'd be more reason for him to burry Elizabeth in an un-marked grave then cc.

  • @MichaelMielDeLaRosa
    @MichaelMielDeLaRosa Před 20 dny +3

    Mabye the resturaunt is named JR's because Michael is Williams first born son (therefore the jr) and he's at the restaurant hiding from his father after visiting the dirt mound because he knows his father cant go in there.

  • @rannynihilius8481
    @rannynihilius8481 Před 18 dny +2

    I thought that the aspect of William coming back home after killing Charlie was the least important thing of discussion with the car, the weather and the name in the files but i guess here we are finally.
    The only thing that is still even debateable here is the identity of the runaway and the person infront of the TV which would basically spell out what is going on here.
    With every info that came out during that time pointing to wrap up the story with origins and endings for me it feels like it's depicting the crumbling Afton household post Bite of 83.
    Jr's seems like a generic bar that's alluding to a potential fall into alcoholism for William to underline his abusive father side.
    The mother is more a depressed husk than a working person; who can't reach out to her husband anymore and Michael is shown to be tormented by both his father and the guilt for CC's death with the ghostly aporiton of his brother leading him either to the graveside or the restaurant that turned into a fresh murder scene.
    No matter where he went to William's plans of putting him into the nightmare experiments starts here.
    Atleast that's my interpretation :)

  • @takendruid
    @takendruid Před 16 dny +2

    This kind of proves that all the hate towards matpat’s fnaf theories is kind of unjustified. He keeps on getting things right, but people just hate on his theories because “he’s matpat. And matpat does insane theories all the time” so nobody cares to listen despite the fact he brings up really important points and really good evidence (I am ONLY applying this to his fnaf videos btw, not anything else. Also this mainly applies to theories before HW came out). Because he said back when the game first came out “this is William, and he’s only mustard man now because there are TWO purple guys, not just one now.” (But then later he said it could have been Henry, but his original theory was that it was William). He literally brought up “yeah he killed Charlie and then later that night went home to his house. In his PURPLE CAR”

  • @chiefswiggum
    @chiefswiggum Před 10 dny +1

    My take on what happened:
    William killed Charlotte a bit after the death of his son because he wanted Henry to suffer in his pain with him.
    He drove down the highway on his way to the bar with a rush of adrenaline and a feeling he's never had before. (A good one.)
    He visited his son's grave on the way there to tell him that he got revenge for him, and that he's one step closer to putting him back together. (Psychopathic ulterior motives.)
    He got to the bar, parked, and tried to enter to celebrate his victory, but was stopped and told he couldn't come in because of something that happened. (Still don't know what that is.)
    So he just went home, reveling in what he just did. (The house consistency doesn't matter. There's 0 consistency in FNaF anyway.)
    He entered the house, feeling proud of himself.
    While on that rush of adrenaline, he decided to go confront Michael, whom he had been avoiding for several days since CC's death.
    Getting angry that he locked the door, he turned around to go sit down on the couch, but rethought to himself that it is his house and that nobody should be locking any doors, so he shouts this time.
    Still not having worked, he went out back to confront him through his window.
    Instead, he found that his son had escaped from the very same window his abusive father locked to keep him inside to escape to "That Place" again. (Presumably being Fredbears in my opinion.)
    Michael was led away by Golden Freddy/Fredbear/CC in possession of the animatronic. (For what reason, I have no idea.)
    !----Anything beyond this point is fanmade----!
    William then sat down on the couch, unusually relaxed since CC's death.
    Mrs. Afton asks him what's got him so happy, and William says it's all gonna be okay, not answering the question.
    She secretly saw a small blood stain on his shirt.
    That combined with his twisted smile and eager leg movement was enough to make her finally snap and want a divorce.
    Just a little extra thing I thought I'd throw in there. Hope you enjoy my theory.

  • @venomfan2020
    @venomfan2020 Před 20 dny +3

    As if it wasn't obvious enough 🤦‍♂️ Scott had to literally baby his audience

  • @user-gv9ni3de1w
    @user-gv9ni3de1w Před 19 dny +2

    THE YOUR TURN TO DIE SOUNDTRACK WAS ON POINT

  • @PK-Radio
    @PK-Radio Před 20 dny +1

    “It was me Matpat, all along, I AM THE MANDARIN”
    -Scott Cawthon probably

  • @SinnamonAstonish
    @SinnamonAstonish Před 20 dny +4

    Welcome back, good to see you posting again. Have been super excited to see your ideas on five laps!

  • @klaykid117
    @klaykid117 Před 16 dny +1

    What's alsoweird is the amount of people who think Jr's is a Freddy fazbear location. It is clearly A bar he is no longer allowed to be at and he's clearly already drunk before even going there

  • @Choccymilkaddict
    @Choccymilkaddict Před 16 dny +2

    He made the game of course he fucking knows what happens

  • @BoxySonic
    @BoxySonic Před 14 dny +2

    Given Scott finally opened up about the box(no pun intended), it seems like he's trying to cut all the loose ends from the original story with simple answers because he stated that sometimes he lets things go on too long and needs to cut it down
    If this is now a trend for him, we will probably see more loose ends get confirmed in the future with simple answers like this

    • @AC-ze1nh
      @AC-ze1nh Před 14 dny +1

      I completely agree with this take.
      We got the death order in HW2. Henry's line in 6 threw people off. I dont believe it was intended to imply that Charlie died first. Which wouldnt make a lot of sense. Why a security puppet if the MCI hadnt happened yet? In ultimate custom night he has Chica state she was the first as well.
      Scott confirmed the box was an abandoned plotline for C.C. Likely a robot body like in the books, but he didnt go through with that. Probably because William didnt live all that long after C.C died. 3 years at most. He died in 87 and was stuck until Fazbear Frights dude bros recovered him. Based on their lingo, it was definitely the 90s.
      Now we're getting confirmation that M.M was William. I feel this was clear from the begining but the colour really sent people for a loop.
      Things I would like to see cleared up;
      -Was Mike Afton the guard the whole time? FNAF 2 really messes with that theory because the check is dated 87 and Mike would be too young. Or was Mike the guard for 1,3,5,6 but we do play as the Bite of 87 guard in 2, as it is a prequel. When does Sister Location take place in all this? A definitive timeline would be nice. He doesnt need to spoon feed us all the lore but this has been confusing and I think hinders the story.
      -How many children did Afton kill? To me, it seems like 5. But Sister Location makes me doubt.
      I do honestly think Scott wants to move forward.with the games with Steel Wool but cant if all the previous games have confusing lore.

  • @c1tzz_
    @c1tzz_ Před 14 dny +1

    I was like "Wait... I know that song" and then I saw Meister

  • @twistanturnu529
    @twistanturnu529 Před 20 dny +5

    I held out so long that the Motorist was a MCI parent and Five Laps is this close to sending me into a coma with that fricking car accessory lmao

  • @oCoinor
    @oCoinor Před 22 hodinami

    I have some things to say after reading a few comments here. (English isn't my native language, so there may be some grammatical errors)
    "If he's the purple guy, why is he yellow?" Do you also think the blue curtains just happened to be blue and can't mean another thing? Like, let's put on our interpretation glasses to see how a game known for its cryptic way of telling its plot wouldn't just make the MM character flat out purple to show and give it away that it's Afton on a silver platter.
    1- Afton isn't literally purple, we can start there. "Oh, but he isn't yellow either", and he also isn't naked in the game alongside with him having no defyninng features. It just comes down to a stylistic choice;
    2- Purple and yellow are opposite colors// Springbonnie is yellow // Afton has yellow text on fnaf 4 (Fredbear plush). So connecting Afton to the yellow color isn't a choice that comes out of nowhere;
    3- Every other instance we saw purple guy as purple, it was from an pov that wasn't his. I won't exactly quote the "what's seen in the shadows..." stuff, although I agree about its connection, because a lot of people here in the comments are taking it literally and at face value. What I'll say, though, pretty much means the same thing (but without causing that lighting discourse): in those examples, we're seeing him represented visually as the evil monster that guy he is, simple as that. On the other side, now, in MM, we're actually playing as William and he doesn't view himself in that way (There's also the argument that it could mean that he's putting up a "normal gay" persona, which I don't necessaraly disagree although I think it can be a bit shaky at times).
    4- Now, this may be the most polarizing part of the things I'm talking about: the house. Althought it's possible that the Aftons' could've moved, I don't really think that's the case, because we've seen again and again the same house on the woods being shown throughout the games, and I don't see what we would gain from having the family move (especially considering how fnaf has a history of almost defieing space and logic by building stuff under and above old locations lol). But, assuming that it's the same house of fnaf 4, IMO the house interior layout changing comes down to game design and keeping the rythym of the minigame's narrative. While in fnaf 4 we had the opportunity to explore the house (and the neighborhood) to learn more, the MM doesn't seem to have that same objective, focusing more on the dialogues than the eviroment exploring, by changing the layout so we would get from one point to the other faster instead of exploring the house (that presumaly, by this point of view, wouldn't have any new things to show on its enviroments. Which can still be debatable, but Scott ultimately didn't want to show to us).
    5- The tire marks left on the floor of Charlie's minigame was already enough proof connecting those two minigames, alongside being "Later that Night". And, now, all of the stuff from the car race game regarding the Midnight Motor car just emphasizes those things. "Oh, but how do we know if it's canon or not or if the dev team just decided to add that by their own?" the whole canon discourse is tiring to me, but if we can get clues from the books, I don't see how we can't also grab clues from this game; regarding the latter, after what happened with Security Breach, I don't think Scott would let those details pass if he didn't want to. For example, look at Into The Pit"s unused stuff, the minigames originally were about Vanny but got changed (most likely by Scott's hand deciding to restrain the Vanny storyline to Steel Wool)
    Regarding other stuff on the minigame outside of Afton, I belive Mike is the runaway (it just makes more sense for the narrative and is more consistent to the characters than the runaway being CC/Dave); Ms. Afton is on the couch (although, I don't think the person on the couch is really important, it could be Henry and nothing would change); and the foot prints could either be Golden Freddy teleporting or William putting and animatronic with a illusion disk or something to taunt Mike (I lean more towards it being about Golden Freddy, considering we don't see the animatronic there). For more in depth reasonings regarding those stances, I'd suggest the videos of Siresquawks (his MM videos, where he points how the person on the couch could be Ms. Afton) and RyeToast (his newer theory relating Old Man Consequecens with Mike).
    Ending on a random personal note: I hate the idea of Andrew existing on the mainline games. To me, it serves no purpose that can't be attributed to someone that already exists, like Cassidy for example.

  • @Catlover35.0
    @Catlover35.0 Před 20 dny +5

    Maybe the house is the mothers house and her kids are visiting so purple guy goes there instead of his own home or reverse

  • @gaminganimators7000
    @gaminganimators7000 Před 20 dny +4

    Isn't the house in the SL map also an underground bunker like in Dittophobia?

    • @rannynihilius8481
      @rannynihilius8481 Před 18 dny

      It's the same bunker i think.
      The book story goes into big depth to basically describe the Fnaf 4 gameplay house before going gas cannister by gas cannister for the Circus Baby rental facility.
      It depicts what happend to Mike after MM.

  • @SlackSulek
    @SlackSulek Před 20 dny +12

    Charlie dies in 83 possibly in the same week after the bite of 83, at fredbears(matpats fnaf 2 theory- scott confirmed that matpat got first 3 games right) so it is in 1983

    • @mylam658
      @mylam658 Před 15 dny

      Bro never said that
      if that were true then Matpat was right about FNAF 1 being based on the chuck-e-cheese murder 💀

  • @FNAF_Boy3D
    @FNAF_Boy3D Před 18 dny +1

    The lore is getting crazy now

  • @nichtfelixh2316
    @nichtfelixh2316 Před 20 dny +3

    Great video and even better music choices!
    Made it a very enjoyable watch

  • @syweb2
    @syweb2 Před 20 dny +1

    The route between JR's and the House is nearly identical to the route between the Afton House and Fredbear's, so it's highly likely that JR's was repurposing the Fredbear's building. Plus, as FNaF 4's title screen and FNaF Help Wanted show, the (or at least, _an)_ Afton House is in the middle of the woods, so it's also very likely that this is indeed the Afton house. Newer games' details often override or take precedence over old ones, so I would place higher priority on the more realistically-rendered FNaF 4 title screen, the Help Wanted Dreadbear hub, and Midnight Motorist over the FNaF 4 minigames. Said FNaF 4 minigames also truncate space enough to effectively place Fredbear's Family Diner sharing a wall with the Afton House if you want to take that set entirely literally, which I find unlikely.
    3:16 Literally 90% of our understanding of the games' story is conjecture in the absence of concrete evidence, that doesn't make this point special.
    5:48 Lol, we appreciate honesty about the Glowing Teeth monster.
    10:02 That's a really good point about why Mustard Man suddenly decides to wait for "him" to come back instead of chasing after him, even if it's narratively unsatisfying.
    10:49 I never considered JR's looking like a restaurant, but that is a distinct possibility. Noted.

  • @captaincyoomin
    @captaincyoomin Před 18 dny

    This is one of the best, most sound midnight motorist theories I've ever seen!

  • @superdimentiobrolyX
    @superdimentiobrolyX Před 14 dny

    I always assumed jrs was a bar, implying the yellow person has recently had a habbit of being a sloppy angry drunk and a problem

  • @CainG2005
    @CainG2005 Před 20 dny +1

    Charlie died in 1983. Help wanted 2 confirms this by placing the puppet plushie in the place where you need to write 1983 to get the plushie. Also the fourth closet has Charlie dying in 1983 too and the same book answered questions from pizzeria simulator e.g moltenmci. FNAF 4 is a dream, not an experiment.

  • @Th_darkmatter
    @Th_darkmatter Před 20 dny +2

    I don’t know. I always assumed the dirt mound was maybe one of the nightmare animatronics buried down there similar to how the twisted animatronics are in the twisted ones

  • @valdemarrolandsen9292
    @valdemarrolandsen9292 Před 15 dny +1

    its nice to see someone takeing the lore in a diffrent way, on youtube, u earned a sub
    btw i theory is that fnaf does ot have 1 timeline, but multiple, what i mean with that is the fnaf lore and story, is correct to the person who tells it, so everyone is right if they can make the peaces fit togeder, and they can do that in multiple ways, so everyone is right and wrong

  • @shury4260
    @shury4260 Před 11 dny

    A really simple explanation for why yellow guy cant enter jr's would be it being a bar instead of a restaurant and bars are legally required to turn down visibly overly drunk guests, and with the slouch, the driving in the wrong lane and the absolutely horrendous parking i always assumed yellow guy was supposed to be drunk

  • @g.torres5463
    @g.torres5463 Před 20 dny +1

    It's not boring because there's still the question, why a mound of dirt? What was the reason William buried his son there? What is he hiding?
    I have the theory that he tried to "put him back together" after CC being in the hospital, maybe experimented stuffing into the animatronics, that's why they couldn't make a formal burial. But, this would not make sense if Charlie died last, as William would not have evidence of possession, we know that Charlie is the only soul that possessed an object on her own. Or maybe he did try to put CC back together without evidence and he had pre-existing theories (unlikely) and it kinda worked, he is teleporting around familiar places (in the books it's mentioned that lost souls wander familiar places trying to find themselves) and appeared near the Afton house, his brother took notice and went to either the mound of dirt or JR's. I think it's more likely he went to the mound of dirt after seeing golden Freddy, and as of why he isn't already there when William arrives there, I would believe it's because he went on foot whereas we were driving, much faster, plus it's raining and he probably went through the forest to hide.
    As of the "he will be sorry when he gets back" 100% experimentation.

  • @shoplifter01gud
    @shoplifter01gud Před 19 dny +1

    I uses to think midnight motorist was about Henry and the broken window was Charlie escaping to go to the pizzeria when Henry was performing and she was locked out

  • @DJFNaFMan
    @DJFNaFMan Před 20 dny +1

    Does the Springbonnie being on the back suggest that yellow guy is just William with the Spring Bonnie suit on? That would explain why the sudden change from purple to yellow and show that yellow guy and purple guy are still the same person.
    Also in the newest game Into The Pit and in the book story Spring Bonnie drives the main character home… and here we see a yellow figure driving themselves home…
    EDIT: it would also make sense that he wouldn’t be aloud inside JR’s when he’d be trying to get in with his Spring Bonnie Costume on.
    A massive problem with this theory is that it’s raining. And water sets off springlocks 💀

  • @Kulze
    @Kulze Před 20 dny +1

    To be fair some things make a lot more sense if we taken the behavior of William into account.
    His wife tells him to leave his son alone, he's had a hard day.
    Him seeming quite angry and authoritative as well.
    Makes it overall seem like the whole Afton family is a overall dysfunctional family.
    So given that Scott retroactively made the first 6 games out to be a rogue developers in the lore of the games we can come up with a few solutions for the 'blind spots'.
    Also, he specifically said the books are a alternative timeline, so dates and names won't make sense, only the concepts in the books.
    Which would mean that we can take some directions which 'when fits what' into the timeline actually, since a few things only make sense in a very specific order.
    For example... why is William drunk and goes on a rampage to kill Henry's daughter in the first place? Seems a bit out of order.
    And also we have the 'Fall Fest' which relativizes some things for the story.
    First of all, FallFest was a yearly attraction, and it had a horror-house, which had the nightmare animatronics (Curse of the Dreadbear shows it). This explains why the crying child is scared shitless by the animatronics without any killings having happened yet.
    Secondly, Elizabeth is gone already when we get the FNAF 4 minigames, she's not in her room anymore in 1983, so Sister Location is likely the first 'professional' idea from William, probably sparked by the Fall Fest 1970 incident when 'something' happened as the circus burned down there, making the existence of remnant be known. The Daycare Attendant after all behaves erratically like a possessed animatronic does.
    So the timeline would be:
    Fall Fest Incident in 1970, someone dies and is buried close to the Afton House (And likely possesses the first Animatronic which we likely haven't seen connected to it fully yet, might be the Mimic in the FNAF games). Elizabeth gets killed by Baby somewhere between 1970 and 1983. This is when William lashes out in frustration and kills Henry's daughter Charlie. Fall Fest 1983 happens. Evan (The crying child) is traumatized, dysfunctional family and Mike goes along to spook his brother to cope with the awful family they live in... leading to one 'prank' too much and Evan dies.
    FNAF 4 actually being Evan's delusions at his death-bed and not Mike having nightmares, explains why you're playing as a child as well.
    Mike feels extremely guilty and instead is forced by William to take up the jobs in the pizzerias of FNAF 1 and 2, which are in order after all. He gets fired and isn't 'undead' yet, simply a wreck of a person and not realizing his father is messing with the Animatronics which gets them riled as William does tamper with them with Remnant (none of them are acting 'right'). Henry gets behind that something's off and thinks William is the fault, gets a position at the day-shift in FNAF 2, gets taken in by police (and is hence out of the picture until FNAF 6) and the new day-shift guard gets attacked as William snuck in with a security guard outfit, the Bite of 1987.
    Another pizzeria is opened, closed soon after... William sneak in as it's already falling apart, gets spring-trapped.
    Mike finds out about his father's secret elevator, finds baby, wants to get to the bottom of what's going on and gets scooped.
    FNAF 5 is Henry's attempt after getting out of jail to at least fix Evan with 'Happiest Day' through creating the minigames for him which we play in all the games before that as well.
    FNAF 6 is the resolution for the end.
    Ultimate Custom Nights is William's torment.
    And then the second 'Era' begins.

  • @brawlstar1748
    @brawlstar1748 Před 20 dny +1

    I like this foundation building, good to get all the concrete evidence in order every once in a while.
    Plus, with Goldy having a knack for uttering "ITS ME" in his encounters, it'd make sense for him to be trying to reach out to his bro.
    I imagine that CC's death was the catalyst for Purple Guy to descend into his true impulses and slit Charlie's throat to knock Henry down a peg, thus lining up with Henry's own line of "A wound first inflicted on me". After that he does Fnaf4, the MCI, and inadvertently kills his daughter (Not necessarily in that order).
    Good theory overall, and good on you for admitting and moving past prior mistakes or changes in opinion, I respect it :)

  • @EchoingVision
    @EchoingVision Před 20 dny +2

    Charlie died in 1983, her grave in the books say 1980-1983 and in HW2 when you use the keypad in one of the SL levels the 1983 code spawns the puppet doll.

  • @iexist_thatsit
    @iexist_thatsit Před 20 dny +5

    Glad to see im not the only one coping really hard because their Midnight Motorist theory was debunked lol. I've always firmly believed the orange guy to be Mrs. Afton and I feel defeated.

  • @wythehecknaut
    @wythehecknaut Před 16 dny

    My theory on what the purpose of this minigame is (at least the start) is showing how Purple Guy got the motive to kill, he got drunk and angry at Henry. Notice how he drives in the minigame, and how he swerves from car to car, and even driving against traffic, like a drunk person could do. This helps us understand how Purple Guy was able to bring himself to kill Henry’s daughter, thus leading down a lot of events

  • @gillspee
    @gillspee Před 20 dny +2

    Anybody who thinks that midnight motorist ISNT right after charlies death fr are just arguing for fun

  • @warwolf3005
    @warwolf3005 Před 7 dny

    Jr's is probably a bar. If Afton was drinking a lot, he likely trashed it at some point or caused a bar fight and so was kicked out.

  • @SaggyWaggy-is8it
    @SaggyWaggy-is8it Před 20 dny +40

    House in the woods wasn't obvious enough for people?
    EDIT: Also the Sister Location map is not indicative of the actual Afton house, those were experiments, not the actual home lol
    I mean c'mon it's in the shape of the nightmare layout (y'know the one based on fnaf 1?)
    Residential homes could've been built later on, this might be really early in the timeline, who knows, not enough information to know for exact.
    Or maybe Scott just got lazy and didnt feel like modelling a proper environment beyond "forest".

    • @Cryonide
      @Cryonide  Před 20 dny +9

      "Also the Sister Location map is not indicative of the actual Afton house" I'm not sure what you mean? The one in the top left is identical to the one from daytime FNAF4. You can even see where Spring Bonnie and Fredbear are supposed to be on stage.

    • @SaggyWaggy-is8it
      @SaggyWaggy-is8it Před 20 dny +4

      @@Cryonide The FNaF 4 minigames are obviously not canonically accurate anymore, same as the other "indie game dev" games.
      I mean seriously think about it, would the Afton House REALLY have a huge underground bunker facility that has yellow tape over the main entrance (presumably) and has multiple engineers working there? (at least two we know of if I'm not mistaken)
      Too far of a logical leap, especially considering the new context provided by the newest books.

    • @xX-vo2lr
      @xX-vo2lr Před 20 dny +3

      ​@SaggyWaggy-is8it Not too far of a logical leap for FNaF, I mean, we have a robot capable of copying anything even a damn person, so good that you can't even tell the difference and he can expand and contract his body into anything he wants. That's pretty freaking weird.

    • @SaggyWaggy-is8it
      @SaggyWaggy-is8it Před 20 dny +1

      @@xX-vo2lr If you're talking about the Mimic then you'd be mistaken. While yes, he can contract his body to fit any suit (which is stupid) he can't copy someone to a point where it's hard to tell the difference (RUIN is a good example).
      He's an interesting concept and all but poorly written (mainly because he's too advanced for 70s technology) but the whole bunker thing is actually just braindead dumb.
      Perhaps I'm wrong, but if so then Scott's really not doing a good job here. (and I'd like to think he's somewhat capable)
      At the end of the day I'm just basing my ideas off of what makes most sense withing the context provided by the writers, I never liked the bunker theory, it just doesn't make much sense and feels like a crack theory someone would make jokingly.
      (also FNaF 4 obviously got retconned and rewritten at least once because Scott outright states that the fans probably wouldn't like the original story, I'd give a link but CZcams blocks them now because they suck at dealing with bot accounts, I'm sure you'll be able to find the Scott FNaF 4 Halloween post that says all this though!)

    • @xX-vo2lr
      @xX-vo2lr Před 20 dny +7

      @SaggyWaggy-is8it I do agree, the mimic outdating the other animations supposedly is dumb. But I meant the voice copy, ig I should've clarified

  • @TopatTom
    @TopatTom Před 18 dny

    Your voice jumpscared me in the best way 🥰
    (I forgot to put a lofi video on loop and this just out of nowhere played, and for some reason … this was the one that autoplayed… lovely accidents!)

  • @FNaF_Fan_4yd3n
    @FNaF_Fan_4yd3n Před 20 dny +1

    Another point of evidence: In the movie, golden freddy lures Abby to a Freddy’s location at night

  • @thethirdonbass26
    @thethirdonbass26 Před 16 dny

    One that makes sense too is that midnight motorist is actually that the minigame is the Night after CC died in the hospital, which leaves Michael as the only child left in the house. I believe Elizabeth Afton died first because of her empty room in the FNAF 4 minigames.

  • @nyaw3461
    @nyaw3461 Před 14 dny

    The crossover with the yttd ost and fnaf is wonderful omg

  • @MahoganyCrafter
    @MahoganyCrafter Před 20 dny +23

    I'm still not sold. I think the car name is more of a tongue-in-cheek reference, like how the movie had the Dream Theory book

    • @jeremymorris345
      @jeremymorris345 Před 20 dny +18

      There is still the Spring Bonnie antenna and the fact that they intentionally changed the other cars in the level to not be purple to make this purple car more unique. That's a lot for just a reference.

    • @MahoganyCrafter
      @MahoganyCrafter Před 20 dny +1

      @@jeremymorris345 It is, but not necessarily out of the question

    • @Snippyyy
      @Snippyyy Před 20 dny +18

      honestly at this point, if you dont think that the "midnight motorist" is william, i dont think anything will convince you

    • @MahoganyCrafter
      @MahoganyCrafter Před 20 dny +3

      @@Snippyyy Too much evidence to the contrary

    • @Snippyyy
      @Snippyyy Před 20 dny +9

      @@MahoganyCrafter theres way more evidence for it then against it

  • @reneethefox4797
    @reneethefox4797 Před 15 dny

    Ironically, I think the thing Scott was trying to tell us with MM was also the thing that made it so hard to solve. Namely, that William doesn't have purple skin (unlike Michael post SL) and that William only appears that way in the shadows.

  • @SirBiscuitman
    @SirBiscuitman Před 6 dny +1

    To be fair, from what i know five laps at freddies was made by klikteam themselves and not scott, so it may not be directly canon.

  • @rootboyfloat
    @rootboyfloat Před 20 dny +2

    I will forever hate that one of the biggest questions in fnaf lore is the purpose of a random mound of dirt

  • @Jann75
    @Jann75 Před 20 dny +1

    i can't believe scott is the guy in midnight motorist

  • @Libraryproductions-q5b

    It's my headcannon that the Aftons have a mansion, but that's my perticular version of Fnaf

  • @mercurydjinn3366
    @mercurydjinn3366 Před 20 dny +3

    Listen I know that this is pointing out the obvious here but I cannot accept that Scott made William orange instead of purple in Midnight Motorist. It feels as if he was screaming that this was not William. Yet now we are just settling the easy answer that ignores the single most consistent detail in the franchise? This is the only detail that lead to everyone becoming so confused by this minigame, because otherwise, they would have all jumped to the same conclusion that you did in this video. It does not sit well with me. If that is William, then why was he portrayed differently here and nowhere else? The Spring Bonnie antenna seems like weaker evidence than the character himself.
    Now this might sound a bit weird, but I originally had multiple other paragraphs here but I decided to cut them since I ended up sounding rather aggressive. So instead I will make a simple request. What I would like to see is the theory that you were writing prior to FLaF being released. You said that you want to be the one to solve Midnight Motorist. Well I think that you should show the fruits of your labor. Lay all of the cards on the table and maybe even take the time to compare your theory to this one and see if there are any details worth highlighting. Like you said, this is too boring of a way to send off the biggest mystery that the series has seen. So I say that the show must go on.

    • @Cryonide
      @Cryonide  Před 20 dny +1

      Tell you what. If for some reason the name of the car gets changed (or Spring Bonnie antenna gets removed from it) before the release of the full game, I'll absolutely make another video on Midnight Motorist covering my original thoughts and evidence.
      Until then, I think I'm best off leaving it alone for now. I've spent enough hours of my life on this minigame. Maybe if enough people want to see it, I'll type up my previous findings on Twitter. I can't promise any more than that though--these videos take me a while to make, and that one would be almost double the length of this one lmao

    • @TheWizardMus
      @TheWizardMus Před 20 dny +3

      One of many common explanations for Afton being Orange instead of Purple is that in the last game, Micheal was shown rotting until he physically turned purple. At this point in the series MikeTrap confusion was at it's highest, especially since Mike had Purple Eyes when he looked in the mirror as Ennard's skin suit(the one where his silhouette is Rick Astley).
      Since Scott likes to explain things in the next game, he took the extremely recognizable purple car from the Save Him minigame, something we know was William, and had a different colored man step out of it.
      There are a few other explanations that I don't think are compelling like "William is Purple when he's in the shadows" but I think this answer is the most compelling and also what Scott probably intended.

    • @rannynihilius8481
      @rannynihilius8481 Před 18 dny

      His car is purple tho to show it's the same from the Fnaf 2 minigame.
      The Fnaf 6 Puppet minigame even shows that a car just now left the crime scene into the rain, leading into Midnight Motorist "later that night".
      Scott likely just wanted the character to be more light in this dark scenery and therefore depicted William not in purple but the yellow of Spring Bonnie.
      Is it really so hard to believe that a color inversion isn't a hint that all the obvious evidence to what this minigame is supposed to be is untrue to open up more questions than answers in the final entry of the story?
      Scott isn't the best story teller but he always gave the community enough implication for certain event orders (f. e. Fnaf 2's calls implying that the killer worked the week before you and that the animatronics are therefore so aggressive towards Jeremy) so why is a logical chain of things pointing at each other so contengious?

  • @josukethecrafter7176
    @josukethecrafter7176 Před 20 dny +1

    I think timeline goes bite of 83, charlies death, mci 1985. I think chica was first murder victim but cc was in golden Freddy at that time. I haven’t played help wanted 2 but maybe it’s possible the graves are the order their spirits moved on? This is to say that during the happiest day the 5 moved on golden Freddy being cc and then the puppet finally at the end during pizza sim

  • @sillygoosesofie6157
    @sillygoosesofie6157 Před 20 dny

    I think midnight motorist was quite literally just created to answer some questions about the timeline and also to answer the question of who were playing as in the fourth game. I think it’s basically saying that the fourth game is a result of Afton experimenting on Michael and making him hallucinate, after the trauma of what happened to the crying child

  • @AdamWarrPhotography
    @AdamWarrPhotography Před 20 dny +3

    In the novels. Charlie was killed on October 31st 1982. So id imagine that probably applies to the games too. Not to mention this is also right before the crying childs death. And for anybody curious as to how i know that. In the second version of the freddy files we are given a newspaper titled "toddler snatched" referring to her brother sammy. However in the 3rd novel we learn that sammy never existed and it was charlie that got snatched.

    • @arcticdino1650
      @arcticdino1650 Před 14 dny

      I would like to point out that Sammy is never stated to not exist. It's stated that Sammy wasn't the one taken, and that he's probably living his life far from the events of the book

  • @piplup2248
    @piplup2248 Před 18 dny

    Another fact compounding how abusive William is: Instead of just opening the window, Mike had to break out of it, suggesting it was permanently locked shut or something, presumably after the last time Mike went to "that place." Mike's bedroom door might've been locked from the outside too, considering how he didn't just go out the front door? It annoys me when I hear people say William was a good father and loved his kids or something like that. He's a complete psycho

  • @tendnotto
    @tendnotto Před 16 dny +2

    anyone else jumpscared by the Twelve theme at 8:05, lol

  • @Silly_Sulky_Seli
    @Silly_Sulky_Seli Před 20 dny +1

    hehehehehe as a yttd fan your visual and music had me going "WAIT A SECOND"