@ChristianJames559 nah the 961 is a huge impact all they did was put a 1/2 inch anvil on 3/4 inch tool. Milwaukees 2967 is way smaller and destroys dewalts new dcf900 the 961 broke nuts torqued to 2500 ft lbs and milwaukees 2967 broke nuts torqued to 2400 ft lbs the dcf900 was only 1600 ft lbs I'd take the lighter m18 way b4 the heavy clunky 961 that only has a 3 year wattrranty on it and only 100 ft lbs more dewalt is a joke these days. Dewalt definitely didn't pass milwaukee in impact drivers milwaukees gen 4 destroys dewalts
@ChristianJames559 not high torque if you don't care about size then lets compare to milwaukees best the 1 inch tis a beast. Milwaukee makes more powerful tools at a fraction of the size that's just amazing.
@ChristianJames559 yeah well chevys aren't what they use to be either ford keeps on bringing its game. Dewalt like chev close a ton of factories because they aren't selling like they use too they ate no longer good
Just retired after 43 years of being an auto-mechanic. Have had many different brands of tools! To compare Milwaukee and DeWalt. As far as strength, torque, and build Milwaukee works great, till it don’t! My coworkers and I have gone through many different brands and have come to the same conclusion. Longevity we give to DeWalt, but both are very good brands.
I have both, been using them equally over the last several months. I'll take the dewalt all day long for typical work. If i've got bigger harder fasteners to drive or need the extra power, i'll grab the milwaukee. The ergonomics and trigger sensitivity of the dewalt far out performance of the milwaukee. When i'm comfortable i'm more efficient.
DeWalt has a New Impact Driver the DCF860 , its already in Australia, it looks like a Beast , I can't wait until it gets here .... DeWalt has never been known for there Impact Driver's , but the Last few years they have been Killing It with there Impact Wrenches , and Finally this new Impact driver is supposed to be a BEAST .....😁😏👍🖖
We definitely have been impressed by their impact wrench, which will be featured in head to head videos soon! As for the DCF860, seems like it may only be in Australia at the moment, but we're looking to test it as soon as we can get our hands on it.
I've got the m18 Gen 4 kit and the m12 kit. I don't hardly ever use the m18. Crazy how good the m12 is. Lighter and easier to drag around. I'm sure the Dewalt tools are great too. Can't go wrong with either one. I'm just so invested in the Milwaukee batteries and chargers it makes no sense for me to even start with Dewalt.
I've got both- Milwaukee at work and DeWalt at home. I find the Milwaukee more powerful for sure but it's not as comfortable in the hand. I also like the speed variability and trigger sensitivity of the DeWalt. As a result, I tend to enjoy using the DeWalt for longer periods of time. But for raw power or use of less than a couple hours the Milwaukee is better choice for me.
Milwaukee is a very good tool, impressive and destroyed DeWALT in this video but for my money and I have a lot of it, I would buy DeWALT every day of the week and triple on Sunday. Milwaukee is a Yugo in this video and the way it looked, I can say we all go.
you know that there is a specific Dewalt youtuber model out. DCF860. Would be perfect for these controlled indoor tests that have nothing to do with real world work. No one ever tests the tools for the work they are designed to do. Lets see you use the tools in bad weather. see how they perform after a days work out in the rain.. You know, something realworld.
Ya know I LUV You guys, but these tests, while really pushing the tools to their limits, are bordering on the usual unreasonableness of a lot of CZcams channels! Driving huge fasteners that normally require impact wrenches, or trying to break loose nuts that are torqued to 1000 Lb. Ft. Sheesh! It might have served you better, and the viewers, to see how both of these handled more routine, day to day fastening tasks. Maybe The way You use to do the ‘Test Track’ by driving different fasteners, one after the other? It might show how maybe the DeWalt has more control, despite less power, and Vice Versa? The ability to have control and ease of putting in regular drywall and SPAX and GRK screws, as well as really small screws, can be more useful than sheer power, IMO. Still, this just validates the M18 Impact as being just about the toughest driver out there. The DCF845 is nice, albeit a little disappointing. Of course, YMMV. 👍✌💪🇺🇸😊
@@Protoolreviews You’re Welcome PTR! Thanks for taking my comment as it was intended! Sure, running in huge fasteners or pushing these tools to the extremes, will show up any weaknesses in said tools. But by testing these impact drivers on a more reasonable and practical scale, can be more beneficial to most. I really liked the ‘race track’ You fellas did with the drill/ drivers. Just my opinion. Thanks for your comment and consideration and professionalism !!!!!!!!!!!! 👍
Is it just me or does anyone else agree drilling holes, needs to be done with drills? Needless noise and time using impact drivers. Raises my blood pressure.
Craig (below ) may have a point, but with hex shank drill bits in an impact, they tend to spin in wider arcs at the start, due to the collet. It is really silly to not use a regular drill / driver with smooth shank jobber bits when drilling, as the chuck holds them secure and straight. If the chuck has minimal run out, the hole gets drilled accurately. Now for driving really large screws or possibly certain auger bits, the impact can have the advantage. Bottom line, best to use both a drill and an impact together. They each have their purpose. I’ve used corded and cordless drills and impacts for 25 years or so. Installed thousands of cabinets. YMMV. ✌
Totally get what you are saying about the down sides of using impacts. Valid point. Though impacts just seem like they are more fun to use and work smoother than drills. There is a lot of hate for impacts, the argument being that they for a lesser skilled tradesman. Maybe that is true. It seems like it is just an issue of preference.
DeWalt seems to have a weaker casing. Milwaukee batteries seem longer to charge. DeWalt has better ergonomics. Milwaukee has more power. Milwaukee's yard tool line is better, but way more expensive. Milwaukee has better stuff for plumbers, but Dewalt has better stuff for electricians. It seems like choosing between the two brands is a win-win though. Both lines are pretty good.
have two 850 and an 840 .all three have real sloppy collets . moving back to using my gen 3 due to using 6" drivers/bits often .heard others say dewalt has smooth trigger ,i have yet to exp this .
New dewalt 860 is trashing everything on market sorry bud and milwaukee quality been going down hill for years. They already can't keep up with dewalt 60v platform. Table saw, chop saw, miter saws, jointer, planners, sanders, drywall tools, circular saws, multi tools, grinder, the list goes on. So idk where yall think that. Milwaukee is overhyped trash and dewalt is proving this and making yall look like a joke.
Between this now dewalts carpentry line up and there plumbing now and there ac tools and there 60v line and powershift line there making milwaukee look like a joke.
Milwaukee repair histories not looking good. Remember when DeWalt started to slip because of mass production low quality control? That's where Milwaukee is now. DeWalt has learned from it and has upped their game.
m18 2953 vs Dewalt DCF860
Thats what we want!
Milwaukee would still destroy dewalt
@ChristianJames559 nah the 961 is a huge impact all they did was put a 1/2 inch anvil on 3/4 inch tool. Milwaukees 2967 is way smaller and destroys dewalts new dcf900 the 961 broke nuts torqued to 2500 ft lbs and milwaukees 2967 broke nuts torqued to 2400 ft lbs the dcf900 was only 1600 ft lbs I'd take the lighter m18 way b4 the heavy clunky 961 that only has a 3 year wattrranty on it and only 100 ft lbs more dewalt is a joke these days. Dewalt definitely didn't pass milwaukee in impact drivers milwaukees gen 4 destroys dewalts
@ChristianJames559 not high torque if you don't care about size then lets compare to milwaukees best the 1 inch tis a beast. Milwaukee makes more powerful tools at a fraction of the size that's just amazing.
@ChristianJames559 also anyone can put specs on a sheet let's see if the 3rd one they put out this year is any good
@ChristianJames559 yeah well chevys aren't what they use to be either ford keeps on bringing its game. Dewalt like chev close a ton of factories because they aren't selling like they use too they ate no longer good
Just retired after 43 years of being an auto-mechanic. Have had many different brands of tools! To compare Milwaukee and DeWalt. As far as strength, torque, and build Milwaukee works great, till it don’t! My coworkers and I have gone through many different brands and have come to the same conclusion. Longevity we give to DeWalt, but both are very good brands.
I have both, been using them equally over the last several months. I'll take the dewalt all day long for typical work. If i've got bigger harder fasteners to drive or need the extra power, i'll grab the milwaukee. The ergonomics and trigger sensitivity of the dewalt far out performance of the milwaukee. When i'm comfortable i'm more efficient.
I’ve been a freaky fan but now I’m getting the 2953 thanks
DeWalt has a New Impact Driver the DCF860 , its already in Australia, it looks like a Beast , I can't wait until it gets here .... DeWalt has never been known for there Impact Driver's , but the Last few years they have been Killing It with there Impact Wrenches , and Finally this new Impact driver is supposed to be a BEAST .....😁😏👍🖖
It should prove to be quite a good impact, Brian 👍
We definitely have been impressed by their impact wrench, which will be featured in head to head videos soon! As for the DCF860, seems like it may only be in Australia at the moment, but we're looking to test it as soon as we can get our hands on it.
I would like to see it up against the mighty FLEX.
@@rickyperkins232 ha ha yeah, Ya know what ‘FLUX’ rhymes with? 😯🤣🤣🤣
@@georgedavall9449 Even haters like Clint at Tool Review Zone had learned it is not FLUX, but you!
Can't wait to see the DCF860 release and challenge video against Milwaukee gen 4
We'll be sure to test that model when we get our hands on it!
Already been tested dewalt trashed the Gen 4. It was a blow out!
Trashed everything else on market. Ridged, marital, haven't seen the test done against flex though.
I've got the m18 Gen 4 kit and the m12 kit. I don't hardly ever use the m18. Crazy how good the m12 is. Lighter and easier to drag around. I'm sure the Dewalt tools are great too. Can't go wrong with either one. I'm just so invested in the Milwaukee batteries and chargers it makes no sense for me to even start with Dewalt.
Nice! I own the m18 fuel line and i love it, so far they have been pretty good i can say.
I've got both- Milwaukee at work and DeWalt at home. I find the Milwaukee more powerful for sure but it's not as comfortable in the hand. I also like the speed variability and trigger sensitivity of the DeWalt.
As a result, I tend to enjoy using the DeWalt for longer periods of time. But for raw power or use of less than a couple hours the Milwaukee is better choice for me.
Love all my m12 and m18 Milwaukee tool.
The new Dewalt DCF 860 282Nm is better than the last generation of Milwaukee
I have the Milwaukee and the DCF 850. I prefer my DCF850 its so compact and has plenty of power
Have you ever tried to use them on hard wood?
I think it’s funny how the dewalt guys get when it’s a fair and not rigged test
I'm team "What Battery you got? Go with that...".
Valid argument
Milwaukee is a very good tool, impressive and destroyed DeWALT in this video but for my money and I have a lot of it, I would buy DeWALT every day of the week and triple on Sunday. Milwaukee is a Yugo in this video and the way it looked, I can say we all go.
you know that there is a specific Dewalt youtuber model out. DCF860. Would be perfect for these controlled indoor tests that have nothing to do with real world work. No one ever tests the tools for the work they are designed to do. Lets see you use the tools in bad weather. see how they perform after a days work out in the rain.. You know, something realworld.
I’m afraid you’re wrong - DCF845 is not a „flagship” model.
Ya know I LUV You guys, but these tests, while really pushing the tools to their limits, are bordering on the usual unreasonableness of a lot of CZcams channels! Driving huge fasteners that normally require impact wrenches, or trying to break loose nuts that are torqued to 1000 Lb. Ft. Sheesh! It might have served you better, and the viewers, to see how both of these handled more routine, day to day fastening tasks. Maybe The way You use to do the ‘Test Track’ by driving different fasteners, one after the other? It might show how maybe the DeWalt has more control, despite less power, and Vice Versa? The ability to have control and ease of putting in regular drywall and SPAX and GRK screws, as well as really small screws, can be more useful than sheer power, IMO. Still, this just validates the M18 Impact as being just about the toughest driver out there. The DCF845 is nice, albeit a little disappointing. Of course, YMMV. 👍✌💪🇺🇸😊
Thanks for the comment, George! We really appreciate the feedback, and will take it into consideration!
@@Protoolreviews You’re Welcome PTR! Thanks for taking my comment as it was intended! Sure, running in huge fasteners or pushing these tools to the extremes, will show up any weaknesses in said tools. But by testing these impact drivers on a more reasonable and practical scale, can be more beneficial to most. I really liked the ‘race track’ You fellas did with the drill/ drivers. Just my opinion. Thanks for your comment and consideration and professionalism !!!!!!!!!!!! 👍
It’s a bad day for dewalt guys like myself lol
Should be DCF860.
Yeah
Dewalt has to keep releasing all kinds of drivers a year to try n beat milwaukee its funny af
Is it just me or does anyone else agree drilling holes, needs to be done with drills? Needless noise and time using impact drivers. Raises my blood pressure.
If you're drilling with spade bits bits you obviously want to you a impact driver. Tf
Craig (below ) may have a point, but with hex shank drill bits in an impact, they tend to spin in wider arcs at the start, due to the collet. It is really silly to not use a regular drill / driver with smooth shank jobber bits when drilling, as the chuck holds them secure and straight. If the chuck has minimal run out, the hole gets drilled accurately. Now for driving really large screws or possibly certain auger bits, the impact can have the advantage. Bottom line, best to use both a drill and an impact together. They each have their purpose. I’ve used corded and cordless drills and impacts for 25 years or so. Installed thousands of cabinets. YMMV. ✌
ProToolsApproved !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A drill is the correct tool to use especially with those screw length
Totally get what you are saying about the down sides of using impacts. Valid point. Though impacts just seem like they are more fun to use and work smoother than drills. There is a lot of hate for impacts, the argument being that they for a lesser skilled tradesman. Maybe that is true.
It seems like it is just an issue of preference.
DeWalt seems to have a weaker casing. Milwaukee batteries seem longer to charge. DeWalt has better ergonomics. Milwaukee has more power. Milwaukee's yard tool line is better, but way more expensive. Milwaukee has better stuff for plumbers, but Dewalt has better stuff for electricians.
It seems like choosing between the two brands is a win-win though. Both lines are pretty good.
Milwaukee day 1 😂
have two 850 and an 840 .all three have real sloppy collets . moving back to using my gen 3 due to using 6" drivers/bits often .heard others say dewalt has smooth trigger ,i have yet to exp this .
I have the 845 I dint really like it , I use it for small stuff
The winner can get the award of the Golden 💩💩💩
The Dewalt 860 is going to destroy the Killwaukee.
Makita Impact drivers anyday
Lol
Milwaukee vs flex
In the Pipeline, stay tuned!
Milwaukee still beats it
Two years ago, FLEX wins. Though now it would be a bit of a toss up.
I'm a Red man forever!
Dewalt dcf860 match up
Numbers dont lie. Milwaukee is better.
Spoiler Milwaukee wins
I'll take the DeWalt all day , I get Paid by the Hour , whats the Rush ....😂🤣
LOL
Dewalts r junk now and have a junk warranty
Makita vs Milwaukee
We’ve got that one coming, keep an eye out!
Mikita is like fisherprice ryobi beats it ffs
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Lol look how slow the dewalt is working so hard to try n sink it
Milwaukee will always be better than
New dewalt 860 is trashing everything on market sorry bud and milwaukee quality been going down hill for years. They already can't keep up with dewalt 60v platform. Table saw, chop saw, miter saws, jointer, planners, sanders, drywall tools, circular saws, multi tools, grinder, the list goes on. So idk where yall think that. Milwaukee is overhyped trash and dewalt is proving this and making yall look like a joke.
@@thomasgilliam3104 said no one ever 😂
Yeah there already video and people with there hands on them here in America. Srry bud
Between this now dewalts carpentry line up and there plumbing now and there ac tools and there 60v line and powershift line there making milwaukee look like a joke.
Milwaukee repair histories not looking good. Remember when DeWalt started to slip because of mass production low quality control? That's where Milwaukee is now. DeWalt has learned from it and has upped their game.