Powered Speakers vs. Passive Speakers: What’s the Difference & Which is Better? Tech Talk Episode 55

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  • @tomhalbouty3653
    @tomhalbouty3653 Před 2 lety +8

    A real down side of a powered speaker is that the built in plate amplifiers can fail after the speaker model is discontinued rendering the entire faulty active speaker investment a write off. With passive speakers, the amplifiers are a separate device, usually with better ventilation and a longer life expectancy. Active subwoofers can subject the actual amplifiers to pretty intense shock waves from the bass leading to solder joint weaknesses or capacitor failures. Passive speakers do not do this. Also each active speaker needs to cords long enough to reach them (power cord and a signal cord). Passive speakers need a single cable.

    • @davidperry4013
      @davidperry4013 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Rack mounted amplifiers will always be superior to built in plate amplifiers. Powered speakers are the wrong speakers for a nightclub or a bar. Those speakers in bars and clubs go through way more than a few mobile wedding DJ gigs a week. I’ve heard them lose sound quality or fail completely in bars and clubs even though they are as new as less than 4 years old. I’ve been into bars and clubs that had old Passive speakers from the 1990s powered by old rack mounted amps from the 1990s as well that still sound amazing after decades of all that blaring EDM on full tilt filling the dance floor with 105 dB of SPL even if the amplifiers are class D.

  • @minnesotajack1
    @minnesotajack1 Před 11 měsíci +1

    A logistical argument for passive speakers is not being tied to a wall outlet. You can put a passive speaker anywhere, but every active speaker needs its own power source and cord.
    As a working musician, I have set-ups for both.

  • @justinnaramor6050
    @justinnaramor6050 Před 2 lety +1

    This was a nice video. For a while I was a little confused on "passive" and "active" speakers and what the differences are. This video (and other videos/articles on the subject) explains it pretty well.
    The rest of this comment might get a little long, but here's an interesting point about passive speakers:
    I can remember in 2013-2014 I was using a computer speaker that was lying around my house; my mom actually used to use it on her old laptop (that laptop is no longer usable and she doesn't have it anymore). When I listened to it, I was always under the impression that it was pretty quiet in volume, even if I had it plugged into my computer and had the volume on the computer turned up all the way (or nearly all the way). Well, no wonder, whenever it was being used it was pretty much trying to use the headphone jack alone as it's source of power... no connection to a power outlet or any sort of battery in sight! This has to mean, therefore, that the speaker is passive and not active, because it has no amplifier of its own.
    It's worth noting, though, that because it pretty much just uses that cable going into a headphone jack, you can connect it to pretty much anything. And that's where things started getting interesting in my experience of using the speaker: the resulting sound and volume I could get out of the speaker would vary depending on what I hooked it up to; I think that's mainly because different headphone jacks put out different amounts of power (and have different impedance values as a result of that). So that means some headphone jacks will drive the speaker more while others will struggle. The funny thing is, the absolute best result I got with that speaker was when I hooked it up to the headphone jack on my "Book Port Plus" (essentially, that's an electronic book reader, audio recorder and music player developed by the American Printing House for the blind, or APH for short). With the speaker hooked up to that device, I hardly even had to turn the volume up that much and yet I could hear it just fine... and then I turn the volume up to max and it seems to be so fucking loud to me! (Provided I play a loud enough recording or sound, of course). OK, maybe it wasn't really "that" loud (like 100 decibels or something) but certainly louder than anything else I connected it to, where I had to turn the volume up all the way to even hear it.
    In fact, I can still remember times when I'd turn it up that loud, then I'd pick the speaker up and position it in such a way that I could gently press the side of it against my chest (or even sit on the side of the speaker, in which case the other side would be sitting on a flat surface, like my bed for example), then I could really feel the vibrations from the music! I felt it particularly with frequencies in the 200-300 Hz range or something close to that, because a lot of music I was listening to on the speaker tended to have quite a bit of presence in that range, and so does the speaker itself.
    Why I was able to get the thing to go so loud on my Book Port Plus, and not as loud on other devices I tried, is still a mystery to me; It was almost as if the Book Port Plus had its own amplifier that was perfectly strong enough to drive that speaker so well! Sure, it's likely because the headphone jack on that device simply met the power requirements of the speaker, but there's got to be another reason behind it all: the speaker's sensitivity. Because, when we're talking about speakers or headphones, it's not all about the power requirements and wattage and so on... that's not really gonna tell you how loud it is. Sensitivity is very important. You could have a 10-watt speaker that can play significantly louder than a 30-watt speaker, because the 10-watt speaker is more sensitive (and more efficient) than the 30-watt one.. Another factor that may be at play here is that this speaker I've been talking about is not really that large either, so it doesn't really require some enormous amount of power; I'd say it's probably 8-10 inches tall, and maybe 2 or 3 inches wide from one side to the other, and maybe 4 or 5 inches from the front to the back of it (these are just estimations, but I think you get the idea). It's not really that heavy either, and with those dimensions factored in as well, you can see how it's actually fairly portable (I can still remember putting it into my backpack and taking it to school, then going to the school dorm and taking it out of my backpack and blasting music on it :)))).
    Unfortunately, this speaker is not as usable as it once was; I now can't get it to go as loud. No, it's not because I blew out the speaker from playing it too loud. It's an issue with the cable. The cable is fixed in place though, so it's not like I can just unplug the cable and plug in another one; I'd have to desolder it or cut it away or something to replace it. I also have to try and even find the speaker again... it's likely hidden away in my closet amongst a big pile of junk! I do need to clean out my closet anyway, so maybe I'll stumble upon it again when doing that :))). But if I can find it again and somehow fix the issue with the cable and get it working properly again, I think that would be awesome, and because it is a passive speaker, the addition of a little amplifier to drive it more strongly would be a nice idea. And as it's only a single speaker with only one channel of sound, perhaps if I could somehow obtain a second speaker exactly like it (same model and everything), I could hook them both up to a stereo amplifier and get a nice stereo setup! And if the amplifier was battery-powered, that would be even better; it would still keep the portability factor that I enjoyed about using the speaker because I could use it even when not near a power outlet. But I do also have a little portable power bank that could also power the amp for when I'm not near the wall outlet, so that's not a bad idea either :))). Then with that amplifier, I could make the speaker go even louder and make the side of it vibrate my chest even more :))))))))))))))))).
    Well, if you've made it this far, then congratulations... I just wrote a whole book for you in the comments section :))))))))))))))))) hahahahahahahaha!

    • @ProAcoustics
      @ProAcoustics  Před 2 lety

      Hi Justin, Thanks for sharing!

    • @justinnaramor6050
      @justinnaramor6050 Před 2 lety

      @@ProAcoustics You're welcome! :)
      Unfortunately I do not know the model name of this speaker I've been talking about; all I know is that it's made by Polk Audio (it says so right on the speaker... I had my sister read that for me due to my blindness). I say that because, well, if I'm gonna match an amplifier with it, I need to know the technical specifications, like how much power it requires and so on, and I doubt you'd find that information written/printed directly onto the speaker itself, so knowing the exact model is a good idea. Plus, it's my understanding that if you're gonna use an amplifier with a speaker, you can't just go and use literally any amplifier you want... the amp should meet (or closely meet) the power requirements of the speaker; you don't want an amp that will put out too little power for the speaker (which would likely make the speaker barely audible) or too much power for the speaker (which would most likely cause severe damage to the speaker because it's trying to get way, way more power than what it's capable of accepting). I would also have to find an amplifier that uses a 3.5 Mm jack, because that's what the speaker uses, though I presume I could also get adaptors which would convert the type of jack used by the amp into a 3.5 MM size. Or it could also be vice versa, where the 3.5 Mm cable from the speaker connects to an adaptor that converts it into another kind of connector, like XLR or RCA or whatever. I'm actually really new to the whole idea of passive speakers and external power amplifiers (because pretty much all the speakers I've dealt with already have built-in amplifiers, I.E "powered speakers"), so I'm not sure what kind of connectors you'd typically see on power amplifiers. And as a side note, this is not to be confused with headphone amplifiers... headphone amplifiers won't be powerful enough to drive loudspeakers, because as the name suggests, they drive headphones. And headphones require significantly less power than loudspeakers, for obvious reasons :)).

    • @wadehodges2301
      @wadehodges2301 Před rokem

      Dude, nice book you've turned your comments into.

    • @justinnaramor6050
      @justinnaramor6050 Před rokem

      @@wadehodges2301 Well, thanks! :)))))
      Unfortunately some folks have criticized me for doing that. They're like "I'm not gonna spend all my time reading such lengthy comments" or some other bullshit complaint like that. Well, sorry, sometimes that's how I choose to express myself. And, some ideas/messages I try to get across simply require long comments for them to be understood, because they're a bit complex. Explaining a complex musical concept is an example of this. I fucking hate it when someone replying to a comment I wrote tries to tell me how I should right my comments (this happened recently when I wrote a longer comment on a video... it was ridiculous)!
      Sorry for the rant. But if you've experienced something like that yourself, you know how annoying it is.

  • @REVELATION19869
    @REVELATION19869 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thanks so much sir

  • @em8969
    @em8969 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thankyou brother!!

  • @bahnundansagen2718
    @bahnundansagen2718 Před 3 lety +1

    Also there is a battery PA speaker called Bose S1 Pro and JBL EON ONE Compact and pro.

    • @ProAcoustics
      @ProAcoustics  Před 3 lety

      Hi there! That's right, there are a number of great PA speaker systems with an onboard mixer. We have reviews of both the JBL EON One Compact czcams.com/video/MOkY9wthgrM/video.html and the Bose S1 Pro czcams.com/video/DJt61a4oWFU/video.html, if you'd like to check them out.

  • @showdown2006
    @showdown2006 Před 2 lety +1

    I’ve been told using an amplifier with passive speaker setup with vinyl will sound better vs using powered speakers. Thoughts?

    • @ProAcoustics
      @ProAcoustics  Před 2 lety

      Hi, Thanks for watching!
      There are great sounding solutions for this that are active and passive. Take a look at our blog post where we lay out the pros and cons of each and what to consider: www.proacousticsusa.com/blog/post/what-is-the-difference-between-powered-speakers-vs-passive-speakers-which-is-better/
      I hope that helps!

  • @josephjosepha7288
    @josephjosepha7288 Před 3 lety +2

    A two months ago I was in a party and I saw the keyboardist used RCF Art-735 (I looked for it on Internet and noticed that it is active speakers) with Dynacord 1600w PowerMate Mixer (I also noticed on Internet that is built-in with power amplifier) Was this connection False? The sound was not bad

    • @ProAcoustics
      @ProAcoustics  Před 3 lety +1

      Hi Joseph,
      Very observant of you and great question! The Dynacord 1600w PowerMate Mixer has both powered AND non-powered outputs. It's very possible they were using the non-powered outputs. The powered outputs are lower on the back end and the non-powered line-level outputs are on the top of the mixer.

    • @josephjosepha7288
      @josephjosepha7288 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ProAcoustics Thank you very much really appreciate your reply and yes I remember the connection was on the top of the mixer

    • @ProAcoustics
      @ProAcoustics  Před 3 lety +1

      @@josephjosepha7288 Our pleasure!
      Let us know if you have any other questions or visit our website www.proacousticsusa.com
      Have a wonderful week!

  • @ubermenschstream6765
    @ubermenschstream6765 Před 2 lety

    my rule of thumb is: For full range box i use active because less head aches, for subs always use passive because power!

  • @xonx209
    @xonx209 Před rokem

    powered speakers can use digital crossover which is better than analog ones used in passive speakers

  • @Urbanmpktapes
    @Urbanmpktapes Před 7 měsíci

    can i connect passive speaker (out-put on a active speaker???

    • @ProAcoustics
      @ProAcoustics  Před 7 měsíci +1

      A passive speaker must have a separate amplifier to power it. The built-in amplifier in an active speaker is designed to power its own speaker and only provides a line-level output, typically used to connect to another powered speaker or amplifier. If you want to use a passive speaker, you'll need to connect it to an external amplifier.

    • @Urbanmpktapes
      @Urbanmpktapes Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@ProAcoustics thanks for making things clear 🙏

  • @johnohara1433
    @johnohara1433 Před rokem

    One obvious question I thought you would address is: are powered speakers able to reproduce a stereo signal? I cant find the answer on the internet. Just looking at the typical back side of a primary powered speaker, it does not seem to input stereo signal sources. And when it is connected to another powered speaker, it would seem to only be sending a copy of its own signal to the second speaker, not a separate half of a stereo signal, which of course is necessary for true stereo reproduction? Thanks.

    • @ProAcoustics
      @ProAcoustics  Před rokem

      Hey John, A stereo application would be dictated by the preamp (or mixer) utilized to pair up with the speakers. A LEFT/RIGHT output of the preamp or mixer will provide a stereo aspect, assigning one speaker for the left and one for the right. And, yes, you are correct in that connecting another powered speaker to the existing speaker continues that signal to the secondary speaker. Please get in touch with one of our sales engineers if you have any additional questions. Email sales@proacoustics.com or call (888) 256-4112.

  • @hollywooddjs1
    @hollywooddjs1 Před rokem +1

    Power speakers do not have near the power as a separate powered amp. Even if they are rated the same power. The clarity and specs is much better with a amp as well. Now that being said your very Hi-End equipment might be close. But you pay heavy for it. just saying!

  • @grunttee8880
    @grunttee8880 Před 4 měsíci

    I am wondering about big music festivals such as Ultra Music Festival, Lost Lands, Tomorrowland... what kind of speakers they use for huge spaces like that, Powered or Passive speakers?

    • @ProAcoustics
      @ProAcoustics  Před 4 měsíci

      It could be a combination of either or both, depending on the needs. For indoor use, either speaker type would suffice, but for outdoor use, passive speakers may be more suitable due to their weather-resistant design.

  • @patomansvibration6521
    @patomansvibration6521 Před 2 lety

    Hi boss, I'm planning to set up a live band, but I'm a little bit confused which system I go, passive or active system for good quality sound system. I need your advice please.

    • @ProAcoustics
      @ProAcoustics  Před 2 lety

      Hi, Thanks for watching!
      There are high-quality sound systems that are either active or passive. Take a look at our blog post where we lay out the pros and cons of each and what to consider: www.proacousticsusa.com/blog/post/what-is-the-difference-between-powered-speakers-vs-passive-speakers-which-is-better/
      Unfortunately, we currently only do business within North America. If you require further assistance, we recommend searching using Google's "near me" feature to help narrow down somewhere in your area. I hope that helps and good luck!

  • @davidkapanga5995
    @davidkapanga5995 Před 3 lety +1

    Can you connect passive directly to a mixer

    • @ProAcoustics
      @ProAcoustics  Před 3 lety

      Hi David, Thanks for asking! You can only connect a passive speaker directly to a mixer if there is a built in amplifier in the mixer, such as a mixer amplifier. A passive speaker needs an amplifier in order to function properly.

    • @davidkapanga5995
      @davidkapanga5995 Před 3 lety

      @@ProAcoustics because I got a presonus mixer

    • @minnesotajack1
      @minnesotajack1 Před 3 lety

      @@davidkapanga5995
      You can try… you won’t hurt anything if your speakers are unpowered. If they were powered speakers and you used a powered mixer, that would most likely damage your speakers.
      I am guessing your scenario won’t work. Most powered mixers do not lay flat… they are boxy and plug into a front that is straight up and down.

    • @bahnundansagen2718
      @bahnundansagen2718 Před 3 lety

      No!

  • @randizzy5409
    @randizzy5409 Před 2 lety

    Hey man tbh, I’m so confused on this, does it matter if I plug in powered or active speakers into my Scarlett interface to make music?

    • @ProAcoustics
      @ProAcoustics  Před 2 lety

      Hi there, Powered and active are usually just different names for the same type of speaker. Powered or active means that the speaker has a built-in amplifier and oftentimes a basic mixer with EQ.
      You may also check out our blog hat goes over everything in a little more detail: www.proacousticsusa.com/blog/post/what-is-the-difference-between-powered-speakers-vs-passive-speakers-which-is-better/
      I hope this helps!

  • @palashchoudhury5565
    @palashchoudhury5565 Před 10 měsíci

    Active Speaker alwys

  • @chappie505ec
    @chappie505ec Před 2 měsíci

    You never show how to plug in

    • @ProAcoustics
      @ProAcoustics  Před 2 měsíci

      Thank you for pointing this out. We appreciate your feedback and understand the importance of demonstrating how to plug in equipment. We'll take this into consideration and include detailed instructions on how to connect devices in our future videos.

  • @aarongetty7406
    @aarongetty7406 Před 2 lety +1

    I’ve been searching up many videos on which type of speaker I should buy and what suits me, they all were nowhere near as helpful as this video. Best one on CZcams 🤌🤌

    • @ProAcoustics
      @ProAcoustics  Před 2 lety

      We are so glad you found it helpful! Thanks for watching!