WARNING: Breaking These Rules Could Destroy Your Amplifier & Speakers!

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  • Follow these three rules to avoid damaging your equipment! You'll learn about amplifier power, speaker power capacity, and how to match speakers and amplifiers.
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Komentáře • 128

  • @StevePilgrim2013
    @StevePilgrim2013 Před rokem +104

    Solid advice. Now, if we could only get speaker and amp companies to give us data sheets along with marketing hype!

    • @aledum1815
      @aledum1815 Před rokem +2

      True.

    • @davidhiggen3029
      @davidhiggen3029 Před rokem +8

      Reputable companies like EV or JBL usually have reasonable technical information available, at least for their professional products?

    • @TomCee53
      @TomCee53 Před rokem +4

      There was an attempt in the 70s to legislate it for products sold in the US, but it didn’t really happen.

    • @butch1035
      @butch1035 Před 5 měsíci

      @@davidhiggen3029Yes, David, these show good attempts, but sure could be even better. Might be a good and convincing selling point as well.

  • @OffshoreAudio
    @OffshoreAudio Před rokem +18

    Excellent video man. Your calm demeanour is exactly what I need when thinking about this stuff.

  • @nicoras8803
    @nicoras8803 Před 4 měsíci +1

    You have an excellent teaching capability of relative complex things to audiophiles. Life would be great if everybody spoke the same language.

  • @dinorockwell7670
    @dinorockwell7670 Před 6 měsíci +4

    Great forum! Clear, concise and professional. I would subscribe twice if I could.

  • @joejoetherockdancer
    @joejoetherockdancer Před 4 měsíci +1

    I will listen to this video several times, take notes 📝 and follow the instructions.. Additionally I have Subscribed to the Channel and will make ample time to continue with understanding your Audio University Message… I have Dasey chained a few high powered Cerwin Vega Speakers with lower Powered Amplifiers, example 3-4 speakers on one channel and the same on its second line. Now I have a total of 3 Crown Amplifiers that no longer give out any kind of wattage, although they turn out, I don’t even hear crickets 🦗… local audio stores are being honest and saying they will cost more money to fix then they are worth. I now have 100lbs of Amps that I bought brand new and only used in my Garage converted Studio.. I have no choice but to try and fix them on my own… Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. If anyone that reads this message has one or two trouble shooting ideas I will welcome them. Best regards from NYC… Cheers 🥂

  • @davidraper5286
    @davidraper5286 Před rokem +1

    Good advice , I really appreciate the knowledge you put into these videos. Questions, power Amp, the more turn volume up ,the more power goes to speaker?

  • @warrenmixon
    @warrenmixon Před měsícem +1

    Dude!!! Thank you for the knowledge!!

  • @tdevosodense
    @tdevosodense Před rokem +1

    Great video 👍

  • @philjimenez4874
    @philjimenez4874 Před 6 měsíci +1

    perfect advice

  • @kevinmartin4787
    @kevinmartin4787 Před měsícem +1

    Thank you! I subscribed and I am watching your show from Central Texas

  • @michaelanderson4265
    @michaelanderson4265 Před 2 měsíci

    True..!! Great video

  • @emmanuelyambayamba8513
    @emmanuelyambayamba8513 Před rokem +1

    good advise

  • @BadMonkeyFinger_Audio
    @BadMonkeyFinger_Audio Před 5 měsíci

    Another great video. While I was already aware of most of the content discussed, you delivered it exceptionally well - clearly and concisely. Subscribed!

  • @kevinl6231
    @kevinl6231 Před 2 měsíci

    I have a pair of B&W 804 3D3. They recommend a 50-200 watt amp and they mention nothing of continuous power. I used an Anthem STR 200 watt integrated amp and it sounded great. I switched to separates: Anthem STR preamp + 400 watt power amp. The difference is phenomenal. Definitely got extra headroom for the speakers and the dynamics are wayyyyy improved. At first I thought it was overkill but such is not the case. B&Ws are power pigs. The more watts you throw into them the happier they are, so long as you don’t crank it up to the level that they can’t handle.

  • @christophejergales7852

    I'm finally building my home theater. I'm buying three used gfa-555s to start. I'm gonna bridge them to my front three speakers.
    It's nice to know I wasn't out of my mind.

  • @sangamowatt9435
    @sangamowatt9435 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Finally someone that understands the power concept. keep in mind that match that goes into this- Peak, peak to peak, RMS powers-

  • @milosdunjic8718
    @milosdunjic8718 Před 5 měsíci

    Right on the money !

  • @giovannibertocci8944
    @giovannibertocci8944 Před 6 měsíci

    Can you give similar advice with active speakers?

  • @Onyxaxe
    @Onyxaxe Před rokem +2

    Exactly the vid I needed. Thank you.

  • @revstar3165
    @revstar3165 Před rokem +4

    Nice Video...but you could also run a amplifier with an equal power rating but put a limiter to ensure the signal doesnt go into clipping

    • @finscreenname
      @finscreenname Před 6 měsíci

      If the amp has "gain" knobs on it you can limit it down to a whisper at full volume from your source.

    • @revstar3165
      @revstar3165 Před 5 měsíci

      Thats also a Solution

    • @K2teknik.
      @K2teknik. Před 3 měsíci

      Some amps are just build in a way that clipping do not happen even if you overload the input.

  • @djsa5m286
    @djsa5m286 Před 9 dny

    excellent video i’m using a 800w amp mixer my Speakers recommended an amplifier that is 400w to 750w so if I want to go louder I should get a 750w amp so I’m not pushing too much gain and volume to achieve that wattage? i’m using Martin audio f10 speakers it says 250w AES, 1000W Peak i’m not sure what AES means

  • @andyross2613
    @andyross2613 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Is it ok to connect 140W 4 Ohms speakers to Center & Surround channels of a home theater amplifier rated at 500W per channel?
    Thanks in advance.

  • @rajeshbridgelal8105
    @rajeshbridgelal8105 Před 9 měsíci

    Hello.Would It possible to explain signal to noise ratio ? what i am trying to understand is for example if a speakers sensitivity is 90db at 1 watt and lets say i have 2 amplifiers A and B.
    Lets say amplifier A is has a signal to noise ratio of 60db at 1watt and amplifier B has a signal to noise ratio of 85db at 1watt given that both amplifiers produce the same 1watt why is it that amplifier B louder or would it be?

  • @finscreenname
    @finscreenname Před 6 měsíci +2

    QSC CX254 / 250 watts @ 4 OHMS for Infinity 200 watts (4ohm) speakers. You always want a little head room so you dont get into clipping with classic Infinity's. Just got to show a little restraint on the volume knob.

    • @paulhare662
      @paulhare662 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Phase Linear 400 / Infinity SM150s. The replacement woofers should be delivered today. Need better restraint here.

  • @bhagwansinghrana8224
    @bhagwansinghrana8224 Před 6 měsíci

    Which amplifier is best between Atom 2.5K Pro & Atom 3.5K Pro for playing one sub woofer power rated 2000 watts rms (model number DB SA302D2) ?

  • @laszlosokolai2858
    @laszlosokolai2858 Před 27 dny

    Gain on the amplifier turned down to even half does not reduce the wattage coming out of the amp if you still run the amp into clipping. It also depends if the amplifier has a clip limiter in it and what kind of clip limiter. I can run my old crest 8001's, 9001's and 10001's into solid clipping and the built in limiiters never resulted in blown speakers. I run 1,000 watt RMS speakers with 2,000 watt rms amplifier and haven't lost a speaker or sub. But then again, I used to run cerwin vega sl36's and jbl SRX speakers and they let me down more than my bulletproof RCF speakers did.

  • @YiPSKiPP
    @YiPSKiPP Před rokem +1

    Can you explain sensitivity more? I work for a university that has the old QSControl DSP running in to some Meyer active point source boxes, and the DSP gives the option to change the sensitivity between 1.3 vrms, 3 vrms, 9 vrms, and so on. The lower number gives the higher input level. How do I choose?

    • @TomCee53
      @TomCee53 Před rokem

      This is the sensitivity of the device such as amplifier or mixer and specifies the minimum signal voltage to get the full output of the amplifier. Speakers are measured differently, as the sound level produced by 1 watt at 1 meter distance from the speaker.
      Line level devices like fm tuners or cd players usually specify the maximum output before distortion is noticeable.

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s Před rokem +1

    Yup...learned this lesson the hard way back in the day. Had two dual voice coil Diamond Audio 10s in my car...wired them all up so it was a continuous truckload of wattage (1200W continuous, 600Wx2, IIRC) and it was DEAFENING. lol Took one of the subs out and forgot to rewire the coils and blew the amp. Womp womp. Lesson learned. lol

  • @sankarn.s5645
    @sankarn.s5645 Před rokem

    If continuos power rating of a speaker is 100 watts..program or music power rating is 200 watts and peak power rating is 400 watts.....that means if 400 watts is applied to the spkr the spkr will burst in short period of time..right. ????then what is meant by this music power rating? ??? In some articles i read that music power rating/program power rating is the powr the spkr can handle in 4 to 6 hours ...whethet it is right or not?

  • @texmuphy68
    @texmuphy68 Před rokem +8

    Biggest 'problem' is that most people don't know when to stop cranking up the system. So many (mostly starting) DJs for instance, have all their channel gain in the red, plus the total output in the red. And yes, while the mixer would have a clean headroom of say 20 dB, you are driving the amp with more than the maximum 775mV/1V/1.2V that provides the continuous, clean, undistorted sound.

  • @theberndog
    @theberndog Před rokem +5

    Also don't use skinny cables that can't handle the power or distance needed to run your PA. This is something many forget.

    • @K2teknik.
      @K2teknik. Před 3 měsíci

      And what will/can happen if we use to skinny cables ? The amp/speaker will blow up or what ?

    • @guanedits6349
      @guanedits6349 Před měsícem

      Fire​@@K2teknik.

    • @K2teknik.
      @K2teknik. Před měsícem

      @@guanedits6349 What cables are we talking about, the cables between the amp and the speakers, and/or the power cables to the amp?
      Do not get me wrong, there are some power cables out there where if you load them you may get an unacceptable voltage drop to run your amp, but from that to fire is a long way. Speaker cables that is to skinny will also just create an unacceptable voltage drop no fire there.

  • @CoolDudeClem
    @CoolDudeClem Před 6 měsíci

    I'm a low wattage listener. Allthough I built my own powered speakers using a circuit of my own desighn, I don't know what it's truly capable of as I never listen to my stuff loud, it probably doesn't even break 1 watt at the level I listen.

  • @caojx
    @caojx Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thanks for making the video!
    At 4:32, you mentioned that the general guideline is to choose an amp that is capable of providing 2x or 4x of the continuous power rating of the speakers. I'm a little bit confused by this. It seems like to me that you are making an assumption that speakers run at continuous power rating sound the best, but in most cases, we listen to speakers with small volume, meaning we don't even need to get to the point of the continuous power rating. For example, for a speaker that has a 50w continuous power handling, I might only need 10w, because it is loud enough for me. In that case, do I still need a 100w or even 200w amp as you suggested?

    • @ronaldcarson4360
      @ronaldcarson4360 Před 6 měsíci +2

      My rule of thumb is better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

    • @caojx
      @caojx Před 6 měsíci

      @@ronaldcarson4360 A lot of speakers handles 50w continuous power, but I found it is not very easy to find a desktop amp with 100w output per channel.

    • @Sn1PeRZzBLOOD
      @Sn1PeRZzBLOOD Před 6 měsíci +1

      I recently gotten a 100w speaker @8ohm when the AV Receiver is rated @90w per channel. Should be fine too for normal use.

  • @bendeco
    @bendeco Před 7 měsíci

    00:23 my man sounding like Rod Serling

  • @davidhiggen3029
    @davidhiggen3029 Před rokem +5

    I take your point about headroom and transients, but I would be wary of generally advising use of an amp that has a significantly larger power rating than the speaker. In the hands of an inexperienced operator (especially if they are not familiar with limiters), clamor from clients or audience for "louder, louder" is likely to result in things being turned up until the speaker fails!
    It would be useful if there was a simple device that would protect a speaker from overload, or at least warn of this, but I can't offhand think of anything currently available? Maybe a market opportunity for someone?

    • @TomCee53
      @TomCee53 Před rokem

      Back in the 50s many speakers had fuses to prevent actual overheating of the voice coil. It became problematic in professional use so it went away. In most cases amps and speakers are sold with great overkill, so that it’s unlikely that they will be damaged. Of course, the majority of semi-pro systems now use powered speakers with matching amps &speakers as well as limiters.

    • @davidhiggen3029
      @davidhiggen3029 Před rokem +1

      @@TomCee53 Yes, I remember speaker fuses. As you say, powered speaker systems if designed properly should have built-in limiting to avoid damage from misuse. Of course one CAN use a line level limiter in front of a separate amp/speaker setup, but to get it set appropriately really needs testgear that many people probably don't have access to. I'm pretty much retired from live work these days, but if I were tasked with setting up PA for anything smaller than a stadium-level concert, I'd go with powered speakers.

    • @finscreenname
      @finscreenname Před 6 měsíci

      There is some out there (12 year old kids maybe) that would just grab the volume knob and crank it to 100 but the most of us realize, even in our fancy car radios that it will cause damage. You have a system with an external amp most know the car can overpower the road, so to speak.

  • @AT-wl9yq
    @AT-wl9yq Před 4 měsíci

    There's one point I think should have been mentioned in the video, and its fairly important. In pro audio, its very common to bridge stereo amps and use them as 1 channel. You need to be careful when you do this for a couple of reasons. Bridging a stereo amp doesn't make it a mono block. Its a bridged stereo amp, and there's a big difference between the 2. Any time you bridge a stereo amp, the amount of resistance the amp sees from the speaker is halved. So, if you have a speaker that's rated for 8 ohms and drops down to 4 ohms, the amp sees the exact same speaker as a 4ohm load that drops down to 2 ohms. This runs the amp much harder, and you're far more likely to damage the speaker from underpowering it.
    Also, you really can't put too much trust in power amp ratings. There's no standard that manufacturers go by to rate an amps power. This leaves it up to each company to rate them however they see fit.

  • @TimpBizkit
    @TimpBizkit Před měsícem

    Clipping, speakers and power handling explained:
    Clipping is the limit of the amplifier not necessarily the speaker. The limit of the speaker could be greater or less than the limit of the amplifier.
    In multi way speakers with passive crossovers, power handling is frequency band (and also music band - e.g. Slipknot or Michael Jackson, but that's a related topic on the loudness war and frequency spectrum of different songs) dependent.
    The woofer(s) usually handle more power than the midrange and tweeter(s) (at very low frequencies - especially in a ported or horn cabinet, the woofer can flap around without much power which may damage it mechanically).
    When you clip an amplifier, it adds harmonics to the music.
    Your speaker can't tell if the amp is slightly clipping on music with a wide dynamic range, and this is unlikely to cause damage if the speaker is rated to handle the amplifier. However, playing compressed music and turning up 10, even 20 dB beyond the clip point (this sounds really bad, especially through horn loaded compression drivers!) introduces significant extra harmonics. This adds more power to the midrange and tweeter.
    An amplifier that's too large pushed hard is more likely to stress the woofer, though could also stress the midrange and tweeter.
    An amplifier that's smaller but pushed into heavy clipping on compressed music can stress the midrange and tweeter but the woofer will probably be fine.
    Compressed music that's not clipping can put more stress on drivers than wide dynamic range music that's slightly clipping - at the same peak level.
    Choosing a larger amplifier than the speaker's rating allows you to extract the maximum performance from a speaker - ensuring it's only the speaker that's adding noise/colouration/distortion to the signal. You will have to lock the volume control away from your drunk friends.
    Choosing a much smaller amplifier is more idiot proof - as long as you are not overloading it with too low an impedance, and you size the midrange and tweeter (or pad them with resistors) to handle crunch city if the amp is heavily clipped at a house party, and you filter out extremely low frequencies that cause the woofer to flap around.

  • @WaynePryce
    @WaynePryce Před 6 měsíci

    So can I put a 2400 watt amp on a 600 watt speaker, just keep it down?

  • @silveriocruz8946
    @silveriocruz8946 Před 6 měsíci

    I do have a 90's Kenwood with 100w/8ohms (100w fr, 20w sur. Frequency response 20hz to 60 Khz. Need some speakers and I not sure what should I buy. Can I buy two speakers that can handle the 100w???

    • @silveriocruz8946
      @silveriocruz8946 Před 6 měsíci

      Looking right now at two different sets of speakers. One set with 140w, 8ohm and the other pair with 100w, 6ohms.

  • @Jamy4ya
    @Jamy4ya Před 6 měsíci

    Thanks for the video and efforts put in to it.
    However the reality is quite a lot different.
    On an average room you only need 4 to 8 watts max for your speakers even if it's an 85db speaker.
    All this watts hype are just pure b.s.
    All you need to make sure is impedance matching or the closest between the speaker and the amp i.e. if you have a 6ohm speaker then connect to your 4 ohm amp or binding posts instead of 8ohms, 4ohms to 4ohms and 8ohms to 8 ohms (obviously)

  • @pedropaku1777
    @pedropaku1777 Před rokem

    Yow, i really feel this was to answer a question i had in a comment a had in one of you videos, whether yes or no, i really appreciate this video man.
    I really do understand the math and calculations. I think i just want someone to verify something i wanna try with the speakers that I have. So feel free to answer the question. Your videos are great man and its helping me a lot learn about the theory and science in these.
    Bueno, If i put my 500watts at 8ohms speaker to a 500watts 4ohms amplifier, the speakers will get 250watts if i let the amplifier "run at 500watts" (theoretically speaking, because you want your aplifier to operate lower that its maximum power). If that is true, would it be possible to a "theoretical" 1000 watts amplifier (or greater) so that the speaker can produce 500watts of power as the specs said?

    • @pedropaku1777
      @pedropaku1777 Před rokem

      You may ask why would i try that scenario? Its because 8ohms amplifiers are not available commercially and it would cost double buying it online. So im looking for alternatives here. Right now, i am using an 8 ohm amplifier but since they are US made, they run at 110 volts and it is such a hussle to bring AVR everytime we use the sound system. So yeah, thats the situation. Oh i am from the Philippines for your reference.

  • @staLkerhu
    @staLkerhu Před 4 měsíci

    5:44
    So, if I understand correctly, then all I need to do in a "matched" scenario is avoiding increasing the signal? Thanks, then I think I will be good with the rated power (because it will be loud enough for sure) and this way I 100% won't overpower my speakers....................................

  • @GaneshPerumal-qt1ly
    @GaneshPerumal-qt1ly Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks! So i bought an amp that has gain control. If i turn down the gain to 75% which equates to continuous power of speaker- will it be foolproof?

    • @AudioUniversity
      @AudioUniversity  Před 2 měsíci

      No. Audio systems are rarely fool-proof. There will still be the possibility of overdriving the input of the audio amplifier.

    • @GaneshPerumal-qt1ly
      @GaneshPerumal-qt1ly Před 2 měsíci

      @@AudioUniversity then i will keep an eye on those clipping indicators.thanks.

  • @papoosee
    @papoosee Před 7 měsíci

    My speaker is rated at 60w continuous. My amp is rated at 450wats which is well above the 4x rule of thumb pairing guide. Will I blow my speakers? Or just keep the volume down and it’ll be fine?

    • @finscreenname
      @finscreenname Před 6 měsíci

      I'm sorry but that seems excessive to me. I give my 200 watt speakers 250 watts but not 4 times their power rating.

  • @jihadnader8599
    @jihadnader8599 Před 6 měsíci

    Hi Sir, i do have str-dn1060 sony receiver front speakers are 6 ohm whereas center and surround speakers are 8 ohm . Is this a problem? Usually the front speakers and center are louder than my surround speakers..any advice bear in mind my configuration is 7.1

    • @AT-wl9yq
      @AT-wl9yq Před 4 měsíci

      There's more to it than that. if you looks at the specs for your speakers, you should find another ohm rating for the speaker. Its the lowest possible resistance the speaker can show the amplifier. That's the important one because the lower the resistance, the harder the amp has to work. So, if you just look at 6 and 8 ohms only, the 6 ohm speaker should be more difficult to drive than the 8. However, if you look at the lowest possible resistance, that picture can change quite a bit. That's because the 6 and 8 ohm ratings are averages. The amount of resistance a speaker actually shows the amp is based on frequency. If you take an 8 ohm rating, for example, since the 8 ohms is an average, there is only 1 frequency or note, that when played will show the amp an 8 ohm load. Any frequencies above your actual 8 ohm frequency will be more resistive 9, 10 11 ohms, etc.. Any frequencies lower, will show less resistance. If you now get that 2nd ohm rating I mentioned above, you can use it to figure out what speaker is harder to drive. For example, lets say your 6 ohm speaker can drop down to 4 ohms, and your 8 ohm speaker can drop down to 2 ohms, the 8 ohm speaker is going to be much harder to drive. If you never looked at the 2nd ohm rating.
      As for your specific problem, I can't give you an exact answer because I don't have all the information. I can give you my best guess, and I'm pretty sure it will be correct, I just can't guarantee it. Its very common in a home theater system to have your 2 main speakers overpower the center. In most cases, its not a volume issue, its a bandwidth issue. The further you move away from a speaker, the more volume you lose. You also lose frequency extremes. The highs are not as high, and the lows are not as low. That's what's called loosing bandwidth. Having 2 speakers in the same room playing at the same volume as just 1 increases your bandwidth. You still lose volume and frequency extremes when moving away from the speakers, but not nearly as much as you do with 1 speaker. You're asking a single, smaller speaker to give you the same bandwidth as 2 larger speakers. You can buy a bigger center channel and play it louder, or do something else that very few people consider. Your center channel is a mono channel. It doesn't have different information going to a left and right speaker. In my opinion, the easiest way to deal with your problem is to get a pair of bookshelf speakers similar to your mains. Put one on each side of your screen. Since you're feeding both speakers with the exact same signal, you'll float a perfect center image exactly like if you were to put 1 center channel behind the middle of your screen. Using 2 speakers will give you about the same loss in bandwidth as your 2 main speakers. Right now you have about half that for the center. That's why its so noticeable.

  • @MrBobchiz1
    @MrBobchiz1 Před rokem

    Here’s my problem,I have passive speakers as well as active speakers.
    I’m using a powered mixer at present time.
    What is the proper way I should go about connecting them?

    • @AudioUniversity
      @AudioUniversity  Před rokem

      Check out this video, Bob: czcams.com/video/ltMPK8gN3X0/video.html

    • @colourbasscolourbassweapon2135
      @colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 Před 4 měsíci

      I'm thinking about getting a 32 inch subwoofer driver that's 6000watts rms and the peak power is 12000 watts tbh and the Sensitivity is 105dB ngl this is sub driver is next level stuff
      @@AudioUniversity

  • @patrickmeylemans9627
    @patrickmeylemans9627 Před měsícem

    So for a speaker with continuous rating of 500W, one should by an amp between 1000 and 2000watt… in many high-end stores they use class A amps with less than a fourth of the speaker’s rating. In this case even 1/10 with a 50watt class A amp….

  • @ritsukohairsalon
    @ritsukohairsalon Před rokem

    Continuous power capacity? Where do you see that in spec sheet?

    • @J-ayJ
      @J-ayJ Před 6 měsíci

      The "Continuous Power" is rather quite often referred to as "RMS Watts" on the spec sheets of audio gear- and in my experience, more so actually than the former. He didn't mention this little tidbit in the video unfortunately, but yeah: (Continuous Power = RMS Watts). 👍

  • @PetruV
    @PetruV Před rokem +1

    here's the thing,while these rules are true,there is another thing not mentioned here,anyone can hear amplifier clipping very easily and turn it down,but i;m not sure how many people can hear a voice coil getting hot before it;s too late,hence,I'd say go for a big amplifier only if you really know your equipment and have limiters set for peak and average,with a lot of care and trial,then yes,the extra headroom for dynamics can be very nice,but otherwise it could be dangerous

  • @johnskele2399
    @johnskele2399 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Can I connect my 50w 6ohm speakers to my 40w per channel 4ohms amplifier

    • @casper2501
      @casper2501 Před měsícem +1

      Yes you can, slightly more powerful amp is better because you a4e able to drive speaker at full volume without distortion from amp at full power (clipping and other stuff ) just dont turn volume gauge all the way up haha, although in your situation you acrually can, because impedance will cripple the current, thus lowering the power so now worries buddy💪😎🤙

  • @bernardchesneau3091
    @bernardchesneau3091 Před 6 měsíci

    Speaker cone X-Mas versus frequency versus power is of utmost importance. A 200Watt speaker can easily be destroyed with a 20 watts signal rich in 40 hertz .

  • @aawave
    @aawave Před 11 měsíci

    At 5:55 you stated that square signal can damage speakers. To me this doesn't make sense because square waves occur in music all the time (synths in electronic music, distorted guitars in rock/metal). Having this in mind, I think rule #3 is invalid. Speakers should play distortion just fine, as long as the power handling is not exceeded. Am I wrong? Please explain.

    • @katarinamatic1011
      @katarinamatic1011 Před 7 měsíci

      One thing is a distorted effect we find in the music and another thing is physically harming the speaker. The distortion effect many musicians use today is in fact the sound of a "broken" speaker. Someone once, some time ago, damaged their guitar amp and liked the sound of it and voila! But of course nobody wants to damage their expensive equimpent just to get that effect. So, the effect and the gear was engineered in a way that it presents no harm. Also in the mastering phase, the levels are "polished" in a way that it's playable on a wide range of speakers without presenting any issues.
      Basically, when the signal sent is too much for the speaker to handle, it causes certain problems that can make it blow. That's uncontrolled distortion and you definitely dont't want that so the rule very valid. It's important to match the equipment and set proper gain staging.

    • @aawave
      @aawave Před 7 měsíci

      @@katarinamatic1011 Let's say I play a sine wave sample. I monitor it using an oscilloscope. I max out my amp. Will this give a different oscilloscope reading in comparison to digital distortion effect?

    • @CrazySparkie63
      @CrazySparkie63 Před 6 měsíci +1

      When you record a square wave the harmonics (above the audio band ) are filtered out, when an amplifier goes into clipping the harmonics that go to the speaker can go up to several MHz which effectively turns your voice coils into heating elements, this is the principle of induction heating, except an induction heater has a high power, high mass coil compared to the workpiece been heated but in a speaker the mass of metal (magnet) is too great to heat up and the (voice) coil heats up instead!

  • @pirojfmifhghek566
    @pirojfmifhghek566 Před rokem +1

    Yeah, if could you please go back in time 15 years and tell my college roommate this, that would be great.

  • @medmusic7977
    @medmusic7977 Před 6 měsíci

    another tip, dont ever give 2ohm speakers set (4x8ohm speakers per example) to a 4Ohm amp, the amp need to be 2Ohm stable and these are rare like the montarbo 458
    Most use for pro rigs 1 ohm stable amplifiers to use a set of 8 8ohm speakers with it and so on
    or for 20 speakers you just wire them in series to give the amp 4ohms

  • @lloydperkins5479
    @lloydperkins5479 Před 2 měsíci

    No reference continuous | PROGRAM | peak power.
    If power greater than 2 * continuous, RMS limitation is highly recommended.
    Thermal limit equals program power (2 * continuous)

  • @ninjabluewings
    @ninjabluewings Před 6 měsíci +1

    As a sound technician of many years I was taught and would also like to add your amplifier and speakers SHOULD ALWAYS BE TURNED ON LAST!! after everyone else on stage has switched on all their equipment to avoid any sudden surges of signals and popping the drivers, that happend before but it was down to an idiot on stage not following the protocol

  • @therealbronxbull8541
    @therealbronxbull8541 Před rokem +1

    amazing video
    very informative and at 65 I even understand
    I live in the Philippines and there are no laws here to prevent me from going full blast with my system I have a 1000w power amp 1000w intergrated amp and passive 1000w 2 ways, 8 ch audio mixer, EQ, xover, bass enhancer, power controller all made by Kevler it's very loud can be heard from several blocks away
    I plan on adding another power amp and 2 more speakers, so they can hear it in Hong Kong 😂
    Rocking the house.

  • @tonysawyer6946
    @tonysawyer6946 Před rokem +1

    this is very subjective and depending on who you talk too will give different advise - an 8 ohm speaker is nominally 8 ohms meaning 20% of the lower impedance curve is 8 Ohms but impedance of an 12" speaker could be as high as 50 ohms as impedance is frequency dependent. The question is how much power is too much - JBL used to say you could go 10x the driver IEC power without burning the driver - but would cause physical damage , an amplifier with enough headroom to handle the transients is correct here but why would you want to turn it down from the amp end. Turn it down from the DSP end and control there . There are no standards here , amp companies power specification is all marketing 25Ms burst power , Pink noise so called RMS we will never know which is the real rating of the amp . 500W amp at 8 ohms output voltage is 63.24V , 1000w @ 4 ohms = 63.24V ... makes for an interesting discussion

  • @GMZEntertainment
    @GMZEntertainment Před 6 měsíci +2

    I'd like to add some technical points here.
    Speakers are usually not driven to their full capacity even at the same continuous (RMS) power from the Amps running at their full capacity (unclipped). That's because music signal amplitude has lots of ups and downs, unless you are playing a continuous, say 1KHz signal. Subwoofer tends to get more average power than mid and highs. So getting same continuous power speaker as your amps are usually wastage of money. Frequency response of audio amplifier are also not flat. Most amps are rated with their power @ 1KHz frequency, higher or lower than that and you tend to get lower or higher power at output. I'd always pick a Subwoofer rated 60-75% of the Sub Amp's max RMS power. But I'd go for 35-50% for the Mid and high speakers. 25% (4 Times) would be too risky, I'd never go to that lane.

  • @NatalieTaekwondo
    @NatalieTaekwondo Před 15 dny +1

    Great video, but bruh! Please tell me you use that speaking voice professionally for a high salary! Seriously. You’re a natural. 😳

  • @pyrsartur3675
    @pyrsartur3675 Před rokem +2

    Speakers and amps should come with “smart” safety features. Circuitry in both amps and speaker should easily be able to clip before damage is done. These days it should not be up to the average DJ or hobbiest to calculate it.

    • @madrx2
      @madrx2 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Many do, The featured qsc amps have limmiters built in, so you can set it to the RMS rating of the speaker you're driving. With three maps. Agressive, normal or minimal limitting

  • @alexzamora5285
    @alexzamora5285 Před rokem

    what about headphones?

  • @Mothball_man
    @Mothball_man Před rokem +8

    I’m a #1 country music songwriter and have also worked as an independent artist and recording engineer for 20 years. I am fortunate to have near perfect hearing and have never suffered with tinnitus or frequency loss (knocking on wood). I have NEVER been able to hear any more clarity above 44.1/16. While some of my friends have gone completely bonkers with sample rates I’ve never recorded above 48hz/24bit…And actually prefer 44.1.
    Young music makers listen up. The music is where it’s at. It’s where it’s always been. Stop polishing turds with glossy tech. You’re just wasting RAM and bounce time.

    • @unequally-tempered
      @unequally-tempered Před 7 měsíci

      How lovely to hear someone echoing common sense!

    • @dinorockwell7670
      @dinorockwell7670 Před 6 měsíci

      Number 1?

    • @JohnNy-ni9np
      @JohnNy-ni9np Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@dinorockwell7670, only number 1 can write 48hz/24 instead of 48khz/24. And only number 1 records in 44.1 khz for video clips in which the software have to up convert to 48khz during final rendering.
      Btw, the minimum bitrate for Dolby Atmos is 48khz, everything below has to be up converted 48khz.

    • @glebglub
      @glebglub Před 6 měsíci

      >44.1kHz has its uses though, mostly for sampling high-frequency stuff like cymbals and hats for use in drum machines, as the higher sample rate reduces aliasing in the highest frequencies - but you might as well transmux it to a lower sample rate AFTER you record it, since you avoided the aliasing in the recording stage to save on resource use for sure, unless you're about to pitch shift it down a couple octaves or something (obviously doesn't apply to country, but I've made a few decent rave stabs/synths from pitch shifting ride cymbals, snares into kicks, triangles into glokenspiels, etc.). could also be useful if you have a plugin/hardware unit that doesn't provide oversampling but supports higher sample rates, again to avoid aliasing and other artifacting due to pitch shifting

    • @giovannibertocci8944
      @giovannibertocci8944 Před 6 měsíci +1

      But wait, can't we just hear to a max of 20 kHz?

  • @Loliconman
    @Loliconman Před 6 měsíci +1

    All fun and games until your 14 ohm headphones with 30watts, 110db explodes and smokes on your head.

  • @theodoreroberts3407
    @theodoreroberts3407 Před 6 měsíci

    Oh, I run into a lot of people who think you can plug any speaker into ay type of unit ignoring the impedance (expected circuit load). They forget crossovers, etc. "But this speaker is bigger!" No, no, no.

  • @gylp2
    @gylp2 Před 5 měsíci

    so if i dont know this i shuld not be a sound engineer?
    and shuld all sound engineers know and onderstand ohms law is it Amature to not onderstand it fully?

  • @christophercrimmins6143

    Short answer- go with powered speakers lol

  • @decem_unosquattro9538
    @decem_unosquattro9538 Před 11 měsíci

    Okay, so it you have a speaker rated at 700W RMS (8ohm) its better to match it with an amplifier that is rated @1400W RMS at 8ohm up to 2800W RMS @8ohm but don't over drive the speaker!
    2x ~ 4x at the rated 8ohms as an example.
    18" 700W RMS 1000W PMPO (peak music power)

  • @berkyberry
    @berkyberry Před 6 měsíci

    Why isn’t anyone talking about Xmax ?
    Which will reach the threshold before the coils give up..

  • @user-cr4pz5yg7y
    @user-cr4pz5yg7y Před rokem +1

    Amp big as affordable. Never ever had a problem with too much power. If you blow speakers, it is because you have not studied enough. Also, 50 dollars will get an o-scope good enough for gain levels on audio.

    • @davidhiggen3029
      @davidhiggen3029 Před rokem

      Sure, but how many beginning audio engineers know what an oscilloscope is, let alone how to use one?

  • @BandoLyrix
    @BandoLyrix Před rokem

    Brooooo why did this take so looong😢…..

  • @swedensy
    @swedensy Před 5 měsíci

    5:16 but 99% people dont have amplifiers that show how my power out is delivered.

  • @deineroehre
    @deineroehre Před 5 měsíci

    Rule 3 is nowadays not really a thing anylonger, I have never seen any professional (and even some cheap) Amplifier which has no limiter built-in to avoid clipping in the last 30 years or so. Without clipping, you can match speaker power to the amp power (800Watts Speaker on 800Watts Sinus (DIN in Europe) or RMS Amp).
    It will never clip/distort due to the limiter and never overheat the voice coil with giving 1000 Watts to an 500 Watts speaker for longer periods of time. You can hear clipping, but not an overheating of the speaker. Of course, if the "max"-LED is lit up continously, you have an underpowered system, but at least no damage is done to the speakers.
    Clipping can't be heard with some alcohol drunk, that is basically the death of all cheap "DJ-Sets" with an cheap, non-limiting Amp and cheap speakers (and even some good speakers) - they will be destroyed after the gig, at least the tweeters on 2 or 3-way systems.

  • @dawatcherz
    @dawatcherz Před 5 měsíci

    wait... a square wave can damage my amplifyer?

  • @ilkkak3065
    @ilkkak3065 Před 9 dny

    Most people don't use over 20w amp power cause they don't listen much over 90db.

    • @AudioUniversity
      @AudioUniversity  Před 9 dny

      That’s completely dependent on the speaker sensitivity, impedance, and listening distance.

  • @colourbasscolourbassweapon2135
    @colourbasscolourbassweapon2135 Před 4 měsíci +1

    well ngl no cap my subwoofer peak power is 6400Watts and the RMS Watts is 1600watts and the db is 138db and it's a dual 18 inch subwoofer

    • @JoeJ-8282
      @JoeJ-8282 Před 3 měsíci

      That's in a VERY well designed box that takes FULL advantage of your sub's resonate frequency, AND this is no doubt, in a car, or SUV, or some kind of vehicle, that's definitely NOT any home sub system you're describing there, that's for sure!

  • @dennisgreen1837
    @dennisgreen1837 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Too oversimplified! A Hi Fi speaker is not "A" speaker, it's a speaker system, usually a woofer and tweeter or also a mid-range. They never have the same power rating, always less for the tweeter, which gets damaged by the added high frequencies of clipping bass. The impedance rating is nominal and often varies drastically over the range of frequencies, so for the amplifier current rating, only the lowest point matters, not the nominal rating. Amplifier peak ratings seldom are much more than their transient rating unless the power supply is unusually skimpy, so it will not be able to supply the peaks the speaker can handle. Those peaks mostly are bass because the ear is much less sensitive to low bass. Low bass therefore is typically louder. The extreme highs in music are lower or shorter duration, so the tweeter is less challenged by normal music. Heavy metal fans be forewarned. Good audio requires powerful amps, more than the speakers can continuously handle. Most speaker damage occurs while listening under the influence resulting in levels that violate OSHA. There is no magic combination that is idiot proof except for integrated speaker-amplifier designs that have built in limiters that won't allow you to melt the voice coils.

  • @josephlalock8378
    @josephlalock8378 Před 5 měsíci

    don't connect speakers with the unit on. don't connect sources with the unit on. lower the volume before changing sources...these 3 rules trump the 3 you talk about and will damage speakers easier than anything you talk about.

  • @MysteriousResearcher
    @MysteriousResearcher Před rokem

    Boring

  • @aledum1815
    @aledum1815 Před rokem

    Cheers.