Right Foot Pronation Sense: How to Make a Paper Towel Medial Arch
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- I might get more questions about making a paper towel arch more than anything else.
The right medial arch of the foot must come in contact with the ground during pronation of that same foot. So while the mechanical act of pronation may occur to one degree or another, your brain may not sense it as such.
Sometimes people are so patterned to the right that their brain no longer senses pronation, and as a result they can't shift their bodyweight to the left and get into left AF/IR. When they can't shift into left AF/IR their right glute will weaken because it's the right glute that has the job of pushing you over there. Use it or lose it!
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God bless you brother! i've never been about to hold left stance for years... the moment i was able to feel my right arch, my body shifted into left stance. It's clear you were put on this earth to help heal others. keep up the good work.
That's great to hear. It's the missing piece of the puzzle for many people.
This totally worked. At first I was wobbly but once I got my balance my left hip area unlocked.
you deserv million subscriber how cant people understand pri?, every time you upload video you are making my life better, you dont know how powerfull your videos are, it is like medcin me, love you to death
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Seriously thank you for everything Neal Hallinan!
You're welcome.
Thanks Neal for this great tip
I’m not sure it’s so much arch sense but rather 1st metatarsal dorsiflexion resistance.
Whether the foot is statically pronated or supinated the peroneus longus often needs to be strengthened to plantar flex the 1st metatarsal head. This will raise the arch of a pronated foot and medialise centre of pressure for a supinated foot.
This works exceptionally well when you observe a right hip shift on a squat - it’s a much quicker and productive fix than the PRI exercises in my experience (they are cool but I just haven’t found them all that effective and easy to implement with my patients over the last 10 years).
I think something just clicked for me about what you mean by "sensing" the left heel/right arch. I thought I needed to move in a way that distributes more weight to those parts of my feet, but it sounds (based on what you said in this video) as though it just means that I should focus attention on/feel those parts of my feet without (intentionally) changing how I move. If I understand that correctly, it's very helpful to know!
Correct. But the important thing to understand that all PRI techniques are training this sensory input so you don't have to do it during every day life.
I think sensing means being able to describe its texture, you can sense it if you can see it with your foot basically.
I've been experimenting with other ways to get neutral after discovering this yesterday (mind utterly blown). I just managed to do it by lying on my back with knees bent, just pushed down through my left heel, paid attention to my left peripheral vision, breathed a bit, and that was it.
Then tried to do my usual pilates exercises and literally could do maybe 10% of normal, I guess due to my body just not knowing what to do with itself. But out of curiosity tried a glute bridge for the first time in ages and actually felt it in my glutes for the first time ever.
I just wanted to share this in case you weren't already aware of this way of doing it, might help some of your clients. You probably are aware already but also sharing for the potential benefit of anyone else reading this.
Thank you so much Neal I believe that if I can get a bit stable this will change my life completely, I have hope now.
Anything that incorporates a left heel, left peripheral vision will inhibit left hip flexors.....as long as you breath. As you now realize, it has very little to do with the muscles themselves. Great job!
Omg ! I can't believe this ... I'm in tears of happiness 💞
How on earth i can sense my left molars , suddenly my maloclusion has disappear???
Can this paper towel help with training the brain? I wonder if i could get an orthopedic protese like this to wear it in shoes ? i fell all my muscles pumping ..i have had years of pain in my right calve, a while ago i wasn't able to bend and walking properly ,i was in bed for almost 2 months..😢
I'm in the left aic pattern. I discovered you're videos and Connor's and i feel like I discovered America!!
Thx very much for putting such an effort in this , and explaining that we can understand better these " problems" ..
Good bless you Neal! I'm really happy that you could " restore your posture and issues" and i am hoping that i will too 🫶
Sending hugs from ROMANIA!
PRI techniques for Dummies - just what I needed thank you. Particularly the second part where your preparing to take first neutral steps.
I use it at home with a bit of cotton. It has given me a relief sensation in my lower back. Thank you.
Thank you Neil this will help so many people... blessings to you
My ears popped and I feel like my mind doesn’t want to wander 😂 👏👏👏
I did this sometime last winter. I heard you talk about paper towel, left heel and right medial arch. I do think its helped alot. I'm still, I believe realizing some glute disfunction with strength so I'm working on that. Also my right ankle had tight impingement at talus on right ankle so that's been disrupting my hip function moreso on that side. Ankle dorsiflexion has been better last 3 months. I think this impingement has really been a major source of things. Paper towels I think helping. Going from lots of back/hip pain to nearly none with better strength and range of motion, I'll take that any day! Thank for your time Neal. Little to no more trendelenburg type walking. Beautiful!
I wear a split for TMJ. I usually feel the splint more on my right molars. When I put the paper towel in my right arch I began to feel the split more on my left molars.
You are really doing great job....thank u i am in pain for last 3 year's now I am feel better again thank u
From my understanding, because of that typical lack of pronation on the right foot, you would typically see patients/clients that appear to have more right arch on the R foot compared to the L correct? The left foot would seem more flat compared to the right, right?
Yes, that is the most common visual appearance in a Left AIC pattern.
Neal, I’ve had problems with lack of pronation in my right arch. I felt like all the PRI exercises I was doing would offset because of this and after trying this little trick, I am already starting to feel relief! Maybe this trick will keep my brain from losing “sense” for the ground and the PRI exercises can finally help me get over the hump of having this dreadful left AIC pattern. Thank you sir.
That's great! Some people simply need better sneakers, and some actually do need orthotics.
Hi Neal, just curious what (if anything) changes if you wear “zero drop” (also called barefoot-style) shoes that encourage a mid-foot strike instead of a gait led by a heel strike? I switched to these a couple years ago and they’ve made a huge difference for my left knee (severely injured 16 years ago)… especially for sports or even moderately long walks.
Would a medial arch of some sort make sense or work for actual barefoot walking too? Thanks for any insight, and all the knowledge you share with everyone!
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You are priceless!!!
Bless you and your details (and patience)!!
Thank You Neil .
Amazing work Neal! Thanks for such great content!
You're welcome Songs.
Have you ever experimented with using KT tape to help w/ right arch awareness? And/or any suggestions for when barefoot?
Or maybe an elastic sleeve around arch
Great idea
How about putting the sock on and attach tape to the sock from the outside?
Hey neal could you recommend insoles that i can buy instead. Thanks !
Thank you very much , I feel very balanced again , it’s working 😊
Thank you
Am i supposed to this every day once, or wear this every day?
Thanks for beautiful explanation❤🎉
Hey Neil, really helped this and the lateral sole flare video, now pls tell me which shoes i should wear for marathons and jogging please need to use this newly opened range also do i need to strengthen eversions on the right? God bless 😇😇
Amazing this is really good thank you so much for your time and effort
Do you think putting KT tape on the right arch to hold the paper towel there so it won’t slide around Is a good idea?
Hey neil your videos are amazing. Putting logic to so many of the issues that ive had. Quick question. What are your thoughts on doing this and going for walks as well as working out? Once again thank you so much and this is seriously the best content ive seen out there. I hope people have the patience to look at their issues as well as your in depth explanations
Is it a good idea to walk around with the paper towel in throughout the day?
This helped. The whole time I tought that my right arch was ok because it looked pronated, and that my left foot could cause the problem because it was high arched and rigid. Do you thing that left high arch and rigid foot could also cause some kind of problems? Im planning on getting some good orthotics, never thought that feet could affect our body so drasticly. Thank you Neal for sharing all your knowledge.
That used to confuse me, too. My left foot has the higher arch, actually it's a slight structural abnormality, so I always thought my left foot was the issue. But in reality my left foot will pronate just fine as long as my right foot pronates properly. But when my right foot doesn't pronate properly, I don't feel anything "off" with my right foot. My left foot feels "off". So it's very deceptive.
Well,two years later I finally think I get it! Just curious,should I make the right insert from heel to toe on the medial side or just the arch? And how big should the left wedge be? Neil?anyone? Thanks!
Do I need both the arch and toe with the towel?
Can I do this the whole day?
You are appreciated
This didn't work for me, it seemed to push me closer to to neutral but I'm pretty sure I'm patho PEC and I also suspect my right arch has partially collapsed. I've made an appointment with podiatrist.
I think I will buy "rubber arch add on sole" or sew an arching pad of cloth on my socks. Or should I do this only for my right sock or both socks?.
love it, thank you Neal. Would you recommend having the paper towel when doing sports?
Thankyou Neil.
Neil when you mention that pronation on the right foot needs the ExternalRotation fibers of glutemax & posterior fibers of glute medius, along with sensing of the right media arch; does this imply that on the left leg you simultaneously need: extension of femur (accomplished with extension fibers of glutemax) along with adductors and anterior fibers of glutemedius?
haha i love how you'r trolling us at the end of the video ! i'm on u'r program for one month now and all i can say is that the techniques are very difficult to master, however i'm making progress and i have a question : i can consistently get over 30° in shoulder horizontal abduction test in both sides (by doing it correctly) but my right shoulder is still going forward even when my pelvis is neutral and aligned with my rib cage. is it a muscle tightness (pec minor...) that needs to be released or it's something else ? thank u sir
Hard for me to say. But a right shoulder that "wants" to come forward isn't uncommon. Definitely could be a tight pec minor, could be lack of a left ZOA. Could be lack of right big toe awareness. Could be anything. Without testing you, there is no way for me to know what you lack.
How do i sense my left heel? I dont know how to do that, put all the weight on my left heel? Please help
Paper on your left heel
Love your visa. Why doesn't the sock and in sole provide that neutral input? I can feel my shoes provide that support on my arch
Because "the patterned" body above it has shifted their brain's sense of "normal" to the outside of the right foot and they lose the sense of ground under the arch of the right foot, plus many people where minimalist sneakers with no arch.
Hi, great content, i have a question, is it work with flatfoots?
Brilliant xx
Hi Neal! Rereading the comments under this video you say that most people just need a "pair of normal sneakers" to solve the problem of pronation deficiency, I would like to know what you mean by "normal sneakers"? Thank you in advance for your answer
Something that isn’t minimalist.
Lamb wool also works well
If I can’t unlock my left knee what does it mean? That my left hamstring is to weak?
It probably means you are using the left knee to compensate for lack of proper pelvis and ribcage mechanics. Why you can't re-establish proper mechanics, I don't know.
Do you only put it on the right? I am way more flatter on my left and over pronate. Can I do this for both so I can be normal? 😂
good evening, for flat feet with low plantar arches, how are the leaflets inserted?
Neal can we walk or run with the paper towel in the sock or this is just for testing standing at one place?
Thank you Neal! can I do this to go the gym and go running also? if so, can i tape it that during the workout it wont move from the arch in the position that you specified?
All most people should need to do is have a decent pair of sneakers. I realize I'm going to have to make another video about this.
@@NealHallinan Thanks Neal once again for the wonderful video, awaiting your next video about sneakers.
Hi Neal, I am so glad I found your channel. Thanks for the effort to put these things together and shared. A question, I can use paper towels so that I don’t need to change my shoes? I love vans shoes but they are skate shoes which is flat, no arch support. Should I avoid them?
And I am in left aic pattern, but my right foot is pronated and flat than my left foot. And the outer sole shows my weight shift to my right heel.
It really just depends on your situation. The paper towel is usually just a temporary intervention to see if someone needs better "sensory" sneakers until their body feels better. Some people are very sensitive. Some are are not. You just have to experiment.
Put the paper towel while walking or standing?
This is pretty amazing. I listen to your videos while I do my PRI excercises and tried this trick. I've been doing so many PRI exercises and got myselfr from PEC to left AIC fairly quickly but have had very slow results undoing the APT. Every time I can get it back in place it lasts for about 5 minutes and it tilts back anteriorly. I tried this and my left hip seems to not be tilting! But as soon as I take it off (say at the end of the day and walk barefoot at home), the tilt comes back.
I'm working with a PRI pt on this already, but any idea of how long it takes for the body to learn to use the left (and not needing that extra sensory signal from the paper towel?)
It really just depends on what is driving the issue. Usually the hang-up is in the neck area, but the neck is influenced by the entire sensory system (including ground input). Some people need orthotics.
does lack of right foot pronation cause a valgus knee? actually both arches are high. the left little less but still does not touch the ground
Neither arch will probably touch the ground. That's why it's an arch and not flat. The problem isn't that they don't touch the ground. The problem is that we live on flat floors. If we walked around on natural earth, the uneven soft earth would fill the arch.
If the valgus knee isn't something you were born with, then quite possibly it's the overall "pattern" and the resultant compensations that can produce a valgus knee.
I have S scoliosis and right hip hiked up so leg 3 mm shorter to the ground. My right foot turns out and my left adductors very tight so problems on my right leg however my arches are very normal so would the paper towel be helpful and at a loss for the right kind of shoes. Thanks your channel is fab !
If you have a true scoliosis (rather than idiopathic), proper shoes may be a factor, but my guess is that the bigger issue will be keeping your rib cage "open" so that you can breathe with proper diaphragmatic activity. We all need right foot pronation sense, but the paper towel isn't really "treatment", it just helps to allow "treatment" to occur.
Wouldn't letting that piece of paper being crinkly makes one more aware of the sensory input on that right arch?
Please let us know when the sneaker video comes out. I am curious to know how to know if I need orthotics or just pper towel while doing exercises? I wore it all day but its movement strted to put friction on my skin
Not everyone needs it. Most people don't actually. I only use it to demonstrate to people that they need better sneakers, or get their tests to change.
Is there any surgery for right foot pronation?
Should i put a paper towel in my left foot as well?
Hi Neal just wondering if sports tape could be used instead of the paper towel?
It works
You say arch is always in the left foot but I have more prominent arch in my left foot.
My left pelvis is tilted up too.
Please advise if I should use paper towel in my left foot.
I live in India.
Sorry you said arch is always in right foot but I have it in left foot
Hey Neal, both of the thumbs on my feet are collapsed inwards, towards each other, is that the result of overpronation? Should I focus on the thumbs or they are just consequence of the collapse of the whole feet?
Hello sir ,Should i apply that if i have left aic pettern?and if i can , can i do this along with pri exercises from your website?
Should we walk wearing this?
Do insoles work the same as paper? Insoles I got were specially made for my foot.
Not me showing up at this guys house asking for help.
i have plastic orthotic arch supports for both feet. is that okay or should i just wear the one on the right?
Luke a tight left sterno cleido mastoid muscle cause left clavicle to be pulled forward?
Would it be useful to keep the napkin in my sock for a full day during my usual day to day routine
I really only use it for testing purposes. To see if ranges of motion change during PRI tests.
Hey is feeling the Left Heel and sensing the weight on the left Foot the same thing?
Would be great to get an answer! :)
No. Someone can sense the weight on the left foot, but more towards the arch and big toe. In that case it wouldn't be the same thing.
my right foot or from your point of view?
Hey neal, how are you doing since your prisms? Has that resolved everything?
I stopped wearing the prisms long ago. It was only for six weeks. I'm fine. I get some low back tension from time to time, but it's not pain, just tension. I know it's sensory (eyes and feet).
How to i know if it worked?
Hi Neal. Do you think its ok to use a small heel lift in my left shoe if I'm struggling to feel my left heel and left proximal hamstrings?
I love you Neal
Thanks, Saad :)
Will the left iliopsoas relax though this?
It's possible. But you need right glute strength via PRI techniques for it to stay "off".
Is there value in using arch support for left foot too?
K T No, because our brain already has awareness of the left arch.
After I finished the video I realized I hadn't addressed that question. In general you don't want someone to sense their left arch. Just left heel. However I have made paper towel arches for left feet also, usually if someone is wearing minimalist shoes and have no arch sense on either side. That way they can feel a "teeter-toter" effect, instead of just flatness. In effect, I use the paper towel arch to allow them to feel their left heel.
Do I need to add a heel on the right too?
No
Where to put this on flat feet? Or supernated foot? I have left flat foot and tight upper right back and left neck muscle weakness and tight right neck scm muscle. So I think I put this on my left foot....(flat one).. Am I right??? Because putting this on right foot for about 2 months would not helps me.
This will not work for everyone, and it's only used to show people that they need different shoes. It's not a permanent solution, and it won't change anything if people aren't doing a PRI program. Many people are wearing shoes that their brain doesn't "like", and are experiencing pain as a result.
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You put a paper towel inside the right rear under the sole of the shoe.
In this video you're placing the paper towel on the inside arch of the right foot ?
Which one is it ?
Eppy Stein it depends on the person. Some people need to feel their arch, so they need a shoe with an insole. Some people need to stay on the arch more, so they may need a lateral shoe wedge to help their “supinated-minded” foot stay on the arch better. Peoples feet differ due to the conditions of life.
@@NealHallinan so in the left AIC right bc pattern what does the right foot need ?
I'm thinking the arch of inner foot and big toe ? Also does kinesio tape suffice for a paper towel ?
It's all due to bad emotion in body .these body deformity goes slowly once we learn to work on your emotional well being
Hey Neil, for an overly pronated R foot would a R arch pad still be applicable?
It's hard to say. An overly pronated right foot probably has some compensations going on higher up. You can certainly try it. The only way to really know what you need is through PRI testing. Otherwise you are just guessing.
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Neal...no paper in left heel?? it is wrong?
Yo no se. Depends on the person, I guess.
Anyone in UK that does this kind of work?
How do we know if we shouldn’t have it under both feet or just the left?
thank you so much for your videos!how long to wear the trick of towel paper in the right shoe?and for my right high arch,an orthosis Is better?
Most people just need normal sneakers once they are "neutral".
@@NealHallinan thank you.god bless you
@@matteogrelloni3516 Hi, could you please tell me if you were able to solve your right foot pronation deficiency by changing your sneakers? I'm just not sure what type of sneaker Neal is talking about
Neal, do think you imbalanced teeth and vision on the left side is a result of the tilted pelvis?
If you are talking about my personal situation, it was the other way around. My vision threw me into a pattern that caused a visual tilting of the pelvis.
i don’t understand this as the paper is so thin and when it gets moist from sweat its practically none existent
It's not a permanent solution. It's to get someone's brain to "recognize" pronation so they can turn their overactive muscles "off".
when do I do the hokee pokey? no thanks seriously
Why not barefoot 🤷🏻♂️
If you are barefoot on the natural earth, that's great. If you are barefoot on a flat floor, there is nothing to touch the arch. So the brain stops recognizing pronation.