1950s Parents Reveal Their Feelings About 1960s Baby Boomer Children
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- As many of my subscribers know, this is a clip from my 6 part PBS documentary series, making sense of the 60s. I loved talking with experts and authors and parents who raise kids at the time where I was a kid. I learned a lot. Most of this section is about the experience that parents had in white middle-class America. Another section of my documentary deals with the experience that black parents and black kids had.
A quote from Hesiod, 8th Century BC “I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words. When I was young, we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly disrespectful and impatient of restraint"
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And here is what some of the kids felt at that time.
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David Hoffman Filmmaker
David I’ve been watching your interviews for probably two years now, and finally realized I wasn’t even subscribed. Really love this, thank you for your work
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You can check every newspaper every year from 1890 - 2024.
They all complain "nobody wants to work anymore."
Only a total moron would miss this
In the 1950s, people in their twenties dated and people in their fifties worried about debt. Today, people in their fifties date and people in their twenties worry about debt.
Good one!
....and I’m happy to be 52! 😎
Lol
@UFHoee , where did that come from? nobody said that... sheesh,,
Wow, spot on!!
1950s: Grumbling old people, optimistic young people
2019: Grumbling old people, depressed young people
That's about the long and short of it. They inherited a nation, we inherited broken promises and lies.
I walk this somber street on the boulevard of American dreams
There were lots of depressed young people in the 60s who were worried about being shipped off to Vietnam, or dying in a nuclear holocaust.
@@DrumWild at least they had jobs and could expect to buy a house. We still live in fear of nuclear holocaust now, admittedly no where near as much as the 60s but it is still a real threat. Especially with growing tensions with Russia at the moment and more countries possessing and/or developing nuclear weapons like North Korea, Iran and Pakistan. A nuclear war between say Iran and Israel or Pakistan and India would be the end of humanity much like a US-USSR war in the 60s would've been.
Implying the "old" are "people". Good joke.
Today I learned that children are real people.
What an epiphany!
Man up!
I tell you I was shocked.
I thought they were little mice too
Swear such a revelation
Being born in the late 1980, I always thought my parents and grandparents gave me too much stuff and not enough actual time. I know they ment well, but I don't have the toys and clothes anymore. The memories I have are getting a toy and being sent out of the room so the adults could talk. I won't do that to my children. Less junk, more time for them.
THIS! Also kids are individuals. Some love time together BUT some don't. Being a parent means listening and understanding your child's cues. But also EXCEPTING them too. I loved spending time with family but my sister hated it. - my grandparents "spoiled" the grandkids only bc they didn't have time for us all. I fear it's getting worse, when parents have to worked 40+hrs and feel guilty. It's making me sad coming to this realization. :(
I am one of gen Z and that dynamic isn't uncommon now. I was given everything. Except my dad's time. His definition of quality time together was watching television in silence. We are much more open now in conversing about our needs.
Just be careful they don't get the idea the world revolves around them. Never had, never will, but you wouldn't know it from the way some folks, of no specific age, behave these days.
Speak for yourself. I still have the train set my dad bought for me as a child. I am 57 now. (Sigh)
Yeah I was pretty much left alone and given nice things
Ended up hanging out with gangsters and hoodlums
Imagine not being aware that "children are real people with individual personalities."
@@anewagora I just cant imagine being so stupid that I dont know children have their own thoughts. One shouldnt need a doctor to tell them this, you have to be pretty monumentally dumb to forget one's own childhood.
I've seen at least half the mothers I know act like there kids are pets.
People forget that they were once children who needed a loving caring person there for them to wipe their ass and dry their tears and kiss their boo boos and make them feel safe.
Gingeta_Creacha some people aren’t meant to be parents which in this generation is lower in percentages because most parents treat their children like they have no brain of their own. Also some parents didnt have real parents to teach them how a mother/father should be. Now a days everyone be getting pregnant n know nothing about how to treat a child or even take care of them. I see woman who have a child n get disgusted that they even poo, those are degrading ugly woman who don’t deserve to be mothers but some woman don’t think like that.
@@SnakeWasRight yeah my sister, who is 25, always thought my parents were "brainwashing" me into their opinions, when really I had my own thoughts. Only a few months ago did it stop, since I turned 13.
Back then, hard work was rewarded. Now you can work all day everyday and you may be lucky to be able to pay rent in your crappy rat hole apartment. But what do I know? I’m just a lazy millennial. I’ll just go choke on my avocado toast.
I mean your not wrong chief.
clayton shirey you’re*
Ricardo, you're right. I went through the same thing. My marriage fell apart and I worked 3 jobs to care for my 2 children without any assistance and $200 monthly child support. So, it made my daughter fight for her marriage of almost 12 years. My son has divorced with one child and he pays over $1000 monthly voluntarily for one child. They've both learned a lot from me and try to do things differently. They've often called and thanked me for doing everything I could to make sure they had comfortable lives. They said they missed me, but they understood, now.
Exactly how it is for me, I commute 30 mins out of town to work 10 hour days in a sheet metal shop doing dangerous hard labor just to be able to afford a shitty one bedroom apartment.
We have other options these days though, the internet has allowed quite a lot of opportunity for entrepreneurial work.
I hear you bro, 2 jobs here and still cant make ends meet, rent is thru the roof and homes are priced for rich people it seems, wages are stagnant yet food utilities even taxes keep going up, I used to believe in working hard, doing something anything would be rewarded with a stable life, but it aint the case anymore, I have a crappy phone I got a 6 year old car I commute nearly 3 hours since traffic is a nightmare, I dont sit at home at all, have tried other jobs but the wages dont keep up with the cost of living, we are getting screwed big time, yet we can afford foreign aid, perpetual wars and a wasteful military but you ask for a little break its "how dare you entitled asshole you want free shit, you bum" Im like "yeah enjoy your medicare old fart, even tho I wont have any when Im your age yet Im forced to pay for it now" smdh.........
I am a Boomer, and my dad was a steelworker. Dangerous work. Miserable in the summer and miserable in the winter. Back-to-back 8 hours shifts were common. He put a roof over our heads, and there was always food on the dinner table. My father is my hero.
Damn right he is, sounds like a great great man, and I'm sure he taught you and you learned how life is if you want to succeed
A grateful boomer. You don’t see that every days
@Kuber Aseh I see you edited your comment. Care to display the original? Or are you too ashamed to show your spelling error lolololoolookoll
@Kuber Aseh lmao, its the fucking internet. honestly, i pity u.
@@strangerx8606 You don't pity anyone, you're just lashing out because he got an emotional rise out of you.
1950s parents gave kids a lot of "stuff," probably to make up for what they didn't have, and spoiled them economically, but they themselves were emotionally stunted, not allowed to have feelings because life had been hard, and they emotionally starved their kids. Dad worked all day and had no idea how to relate to a kid (other than spankings). Mom was repressed and frustrated by being trapped in the house with kids. This was NOT a golden era of parenting.
50s adults knew that thing things would get better if you worked.
60s boomers knew that thing just got better regardless of work.
Millenials know that no matter how much you worked, things will never get better.
SpeedStriker and gen z feel the same way as the millennials.
Gen z know that things won’t get better regardless of work, and don’t give a shit.
@@hughmungus1999 I do :c
@@cosmosisrose Gen Z knows they're not even gonna make it to 30
all of the worst generations
I don’t know how many times I’ve heard old people tell me how “easy” we have it. Ironic coming from the generation that could afford to buy a house and car by working a 9-5 minimum wage job. Most people my age can only DREAM of owning their own house or being able to afford to eat and pay rent with no hassle. Not to mention $50,000 debt from student loans. Decades ago you could work a part-time summer job and it could be enough to pay for College. It’s almost impossible to live off of a minimum wage job, especially if you have a family.
Hello Zen we never had mobile phones loans on every thing you saved for what you wanted your main priority was your home and food on the table it was an embarrassment to owe money in those days different generations so don't moan😂
Maggie Oakley that’s just the point. It’s almost impossible to live now without owing money. I can assure you nobody wants to live that way but with the price of living going up drastically and the minimum wage at only about $14 (Ontario, Canada), along with added expenses such as a phone (which is very difficult to live without nowadays), young people have no choice but to go into debt. The average price for a house in Toronto in the 1980’s was about $109,000. In 2019 it is approximately $1.3 million. Tell me how my generation is supposed to save up for that?
@@hellozen5970 Gen x here. You are correct. Just because you can get an "easy" loan doesn't mean you want to. It's a loan that has to be paid back and it will take a lot of work for most people.
Maggie Oakley mobile phones, that’s an extra bill and loans have to be paid back, we have way more expenses and a higher cost of living to deal with with a wage that is too low for the cost of living. If anything your generation had it way better than us. So please shut your mouth especially when you have no clue what you’re talking about
The most spoiled and entitled generation ever who had to work very little in comparison to their children now are calling their children lazy and entitled when they work harder and for less money than they did. Can't wait til your selfish generation of shit heads becomes to old to run the country anymore because you fucking broke it.
Wow, baby boomers were called spoiled, for being raised in a good homes, having money to spent, and living in prosperity. We were called spoiled, for asking for less debt going to school, and asking our workplace to treat us like a human being.
Most of us weren’t spoiled because our parents had little money to do that. In Australia post war families were still struggling to make ends meet. Baby Boomers have had the benefit on knowing money was not a prerequisite for happiness.
Boomers grew up to be narcissists and many of their kids became teenage and adult narcissists
The danger of sweeping generalisations is that they are always wrong and the feeble minded use them to prove some point or other that suits their own angry disposition.
@Martin Loney So true. You also have to consider who really (literally) profits from sowing hatred between generations? If regular people of all generations worked together we'd have a living wage and health care here in America.
Instead we have people getting manipulated into this "OK Boomer" nonsense and billionaires who don't pay taxes.
@@nekkidpossum4397 a very interesting question. The collective power of all compassionate people would bring wonderful change. Division suits the powerful vested interests.
I kinda wish it was still economically feasible to be a stay at home parent.
@New Tunes For Old Logos thank you.
@New Tunes For Old Logos or one parent needs to make around $120k a year or one parent could work from home
@New Tunes For Old Logos house payments, utilities, phone, internet, tv, car insurance, car payments, food, putting some in savings, gas, house insurance, travel, and other odds and ends. Also don't forget 30% goes to taxes. If you're job doesn't cover it, health and dental insurance. So yeah, that's where it goes
@@jeffgayzose8129 house payment with insurance and taxes 2k
Phone $100
Internet $50
Gas $300
Dental $100
Health let’s throw it at $1000
And in what country are you in to be taxed at 30%? Filing single 0 you don’t even get to the 30s until after 163k and married is at over 300k
So assuming you take 30% of 10k
We have 7k to do bills and what not
I’ve listed $3550 in bills
Now we have $3450 for savings, fun and food…. There’s plenty and if it’s not then you just don’t have any financial skills to make money work…:::
I make like 74k a year on 40 hrs and like 80-90 depending on the year, file single 0, have a stay at home wife and two kids…. There’s still money left over
@New Tunes For Old Logos bills, taxes, car payments, home payments, and just regular accessory expenses brother
Back then, wages and the cost of living were proportional. Now, it’s all out of wack.
Watch the video Boomer supermarket. It is almost like a documentary of a mom and her two children shopping in 1963. You wouldn't believe how cheap they got a basket of food. Type. Boomer Supermarket. Into CZcams.
@@katec3963 Around 1991 I moved into a three-bedroom duplex with a couple of friends. Not too bad; one floor, one bathroom; but a large living room with a fireplace, and we could each have our own space. We paid $500 a month. Minimum wage was about $7.50/hour.
Looked into rents in the same town recently, since I was flirting with moving closer to my elderly parents. Would have liked a three-bedroom again, since I now have two kids. Unfortunately, I can't even afford a one-bedroom apartment; they *start* at about $1,500.
Minimum wage, meanwhile, has also gone up. To $10.50/hour.
So, minimum wage has gone up by what, roughly 30%? Meanwhile rent, for a *smaller* place, has gone up 150%.
But it's more than just that. Because, back in the day, working full time, you'd gross about $1,200.00 (before income tax etc). So even paying all of the rent by myself, I would still have had $700 left over for everything else (again, less taxes, so realistically more like $450. But still; it's a positive number). And splitting the rent with my two roommates (one for each bedroom, and the only way we could afford a roof over our heads), I only had to cover $167.00 in rent, leaving me with almost a theoretical thousand dollars (okay, so like $700) for my share of food, electricity, etc, not to mention gas and car insurance. Tight; but doable. Nothing left over and the fridge was usually empty (we were in college and therefore only working part time); but we had lights and a roof.
So, rent has gone up by a thousand dollars. But working minimum wage? Even full-time, you're only grossing $1,680. So people earning minimum wage these days only have $480.00 more each month (less income tax, etc) than I did almost thirty years ago. And out of that, they're somehow supposed to cover an additional $1,000.00 each month in rent *alone*, when everything else--food, gas, etc--has also gone up at least 100%.
If you can stretch a budget to make that work then please, do share it with me.
KryssLaBryn Not to meantion renters othern still expect your to make at least double your rent.
Well I remember buying lawn seats in the early eighties for $6-8 - about twice the minimum wage - now people are paying anywhere from $80 -$1000 to go to a concert while minimum wage is around $9. Are the musicians really worth that much that you would work 10 to 100 hours just so you get a chance to hold your phone up at a concert for 2 hours.
That also is something I never quite understood - going to a concert used to mean being at the concert and living the experience - instead of recording it to view at a later time.
The simple fact is : you only have control over how you spend your money - living in an location means you are subject to the whims of the local rental/purchase costs of real estate - which I have to admit has gotten out of hand.
But cooking at home , buying used cars, not buying a $5 coffee every morning, not buying clothes you dont need, or not buying the latest smartphone each year (think about it - if you are making $35000 - can you really afford to spend $1000 on a new phone) will help you build your bank account.
The think I always do before making a purchase is to question - "Do I really need this?" - then wait a few days and ask myself the same question. For me , the answer is usually NO.
@@KryssLaBryn minimum wage @7.50 a hr. Where where you located? Minimum wage was 2.85 in 1990, 1991. In the state I was in. It went to 3.15. Eventually Went to 4.25 a hr in 93. Staying that way for several years.
"Children are real people." OMG
Well, they are
Arrogant Anarchist keep saying that and you might realize, children aren’t anything but bags of stupid.
Watch me sweetheart. wonder why kids tend to deal with serious self esteem issues? It’s because we insult them and degrate their intelligence simply for their age. I doubt you work with kids or are around kids enough to realize how creative and interesting they can be if allowed to flourish and aren’t told they’re stupid or that they should be seen and not heard.
Just look at teenagers of today. Many of them are very politically active and do their best to influence and affect the world around them. That young woman who survived a school shooting and then went on to make national news with her speech is a wonderful example.
Kids are humans beings. They have no genetic difference to you. Stop acting like your better than someone just because you’ve got more wrinkles on your face.
A D no we are all heartless, soulless beings that want attention every second of our lives.
@@mr.shibeman1146 stop pushing ur negativity on others. Ypu just aren't happy with yourself so you don't want others to be happy.
I remember wishing I could have a childhood like my parents' childhood. They said they could go basically anywhere with their friends and how they'd either walk or bike everywhere. Of course they lived in a smaller town so they could do that. But they'd talk about how they'd bike the Dairy Queen with their friends on the weekends or play baseball or basketball or go to the pool during the summer with little supervision and I envy that. That freedom of being able to go out with your friends anywhere and enjoy life outside. Their childhood sounded much more fulfilling and exciting.
@lil doinker what you describe is what my childhood was like in the 70s, and i lived in a good sized city.
what was your childhood like, and what prevented you from being free?
60's childhood i had was like that. we were a bunch of wild things! in summer we'd hit the door, our friends were waiting. sometimes, you didn't even go back home 'til the streetlights came on. nothing bad ever happened to anyone i knew in my whole town. maybe stitches if you fell out of a tree or such. truly feel sorry for kids now. they've never known freedom and fun in our 'old fashioned' way.
I remember both my grandparents and mother mentioning that. It sounds like heaven. I still wish I could of gone outside as a kid/teenager. But it's a different time now, how sad.
@@Sapanator what's different, out of curiosity?
@@toddinthemiddle When I was six playing outside I was gang r**ed and later beaten. After we stopped being homeless I wasn't allowed outside. Like I said, to me what you guys are describing, it sounds like heaven.
Back when a 1 income family was considered middle class. These days 1 income as an employee = poverty. Change my mind.
What's with this ridiculously rude "change my mind" comment I keep seeing? I honestly couldn't care less what you think. About anything. Right from the start you sound like a dick so why would I bother?
@@Renee-rw7un there is this one meme of this guy sitting at a desk with a sign saying “change my mind” and people will edit it to be like “pineapple on pizza is good, change my mind” so when people say change my mind at the end of a post, they don’t actually mean try to change my mind, they mostly mean “I have a strong opinion and I am ready to defend it”
@@Renee-rw7un did you just get offended? Wow the irony
@@iliad8988 Lmao, my thoughts exactly. When someone dislikes a good point yet can't come up with a logical counterpoint taking offense is their go to. Sad state of affairs.
Get a better job
I remember in the 80s, one of my friends was legally disowned by his parents because he was into the punk/metal scene. 🤣
RemixedVoice Underrated comment & parenting 😂
Ah, yes. The Christian crusades and satanic panic of the 80's and 90's.
What horiffically self righteous and socially regressive time in american cultural history.
nerd Surfer
Omg, I was a teenager in the early 2010's and yes, my parents did force me to wear oversized clothing. "Because I would grow more" they used to say, but I know the real reason was that backwards mormon law of chastity. Like, I was an extremely skinny, average height boy, who should have worn a XS size and they usually made me wear M or L sizes.
I was a kid of the 80s and saw the TV shows and protests from the Christian groups against heavy metal. Amazing how panicky people were over it.
That's how it was back then all that shit shocked people with no effort to even shock people
I wonder if Andrew Takas realizes the irony of his perspective. Nowadays if you get up, go to work, and work hard you don't get promoted you just get handed more work.
There was a time when managers and supervisors were expected to know all the knowledge of a sector and were able to spot who were the hard workers and who were the bluffers. Now this is harder to find in many industries. Each department fights the other departments to pile work onto the weakest department and make their own lives easier. Management only react to crisis situations and adopt a short term view on running things. Service, loyalty and initiative are no longer the pathways to better pay that they once were. Now truly effective and successful workers go into free lance positions, not working for a particular company, so as to be able to develop themselves and avoid corrosive, morale sapping and obstructive office politics and cronyism rampant in the modern Corporation. The good workers hop from job to job pushing for pay rises along the way and always keeping a resume updated only with universally accredited skillsets and jobs experiences that are externally marketable and known. THey avoid specialisation and internally peculiar proprietary roles, useful in only one company, like the plague.
do you have debt
@@paccawacca4069 No thank God I never had debt. I do not believe in debt. Never had and never would believe in commiting to anything bigger than I could handle for 6 months of no income. Sort of like a siege everybody should have a contingency fund set aside to cover relocation, house sell and buy and other bills which happen when a jobs loss means getting another job.
Ain't that the truth!!
mmhmm, how the times have changed
Born in 1947. I don't recall being the center of my parents' concern at all. Mom was always home and I had three brothers. The feeling I've always had was that I had a load of unspoken responsibility at home and that I raised myself. My brothers were the kids depicted in this video. Coddled, praised and worried over by Mom, but often ignored by Dad.
Mom was always home
I think that was a big benefit for me. The neighborhood bullies would beat me up and I could run home to my mother.
This is exactly what the video was talking about. You're so self centered that you can follow "Mom was always home" with "I raised myself". The generation after you were latchkey kids who got themselves up for school, dodged gang members once they got there, had everybody asking them what they would go to college to study, and made their own dinner. All while your generation constantly cried about "kids these days." All before the age of 10. But please, tell us how bad you had it growing up in the 50s.
@@mikaelgaiason688 You do realize you just told a 74 year old woman she doesn't know the meaning of hard times, right? As for me, I think a few videos on Vietnam POW camps, might give me some perspective on what, 'hard times,' are all about. Or perhaps, what growing up with agent orange, was all about. Suffering is suffering...
@diane9247 I was born in 1953 my dad drove Mack Trucks and my mom ran around on him with a married man. Why did they make this as some special time. Yes we could play outside but there were structured things to learn.
Yeah I lived alone for many years. Didn't marry till I was 44. Raised his 4 children and then divorced. So much for the white picket fence in living happily ever after.
@@sweetdrreemz That old lady never said she was Vietnamese. Yeah, they had hard times when her generation decided to bomb and gas them. She didn't though.
My mom was born in 1955, but became a lawyer. She was also the first person in her family to ever finish high school, much less go to college. I’m so proud of her.
1950s psychologists: "children are real people!"
oh wow
edit: wow thank u for the likes lmao
They had to deal with Eddie Haskell
It might seem absurd to hear that, but before the war children tought ot be young adults, ready to be shaped and molded int owhatever was needed, hence why child labour was such a common thing (Among other things) A child was just an asset, after the war, the value of a child suddenly became more real a new generation after a horrific incident involving the whole world.
Before they were disposable child labor. Oh how things have changed
And, apparently still a work in progress at the time, "women are real people!"
It's just crazy to think how recent all this was.
Low key this video is suprising because like my grandma told me she lived as child as like "children are supposed to be seen not heard." Which is bs to me but facts at the same time.
Boomers are the most spoiled generation of all time.
They have completely destroyed the economy for generations to come
Charles Clapper yes, also the same generation that ruined future generations.
Charles Clapper lol they went Vietnam on their own accord. The U.S had no business going there.
Charles Clapper i completely agree
Charles Clapper Statistically speaking boomers did have the best run out of all generations, a lot of baby boomers when they got older didn’t really consider the Cold War to actually be an issue and we’re rarely effected by it or by any other societal issue, that’s why the 50s and early 60s are called “the golden years of America.” By a lot of (white) boomers today, many people from today’s era would even consider the 50s to be a better time than now. Yes it did have its downsides but you can’t deny that they DID in fact have the best time period to live in economy wise.
Can you imagine what it would be like to have a job in a retail store or a restaurant and being able to support a wife and kids on it? I couldn’t even support myself when I was doing that.
But everything was much cheaper bak then, in 1969 with 1 dollar, u could pay 25 cents for cigarettes 25 cents a gallon of gas, 15 cents for hamburger, 10 cents for a phone call, the rest on candy or a comic book.
Apartments were cheaper too, like closer to 80 dollars per month or 120 per month.
@@barrycalvillo2466 that was my point.
That's what happens when the government spends money it doesn't have. It eventually comes out as inflation, and often it's the next generation that pays. Now it's happening at a rate never seen before, totally exponential. Of course there are winners in this system: those who are behind the Federal Reserve (whom even congress is forbidden from knowing the names of).
Imagine being like “if I just keep showing up to work things will get better” 🤯🤯 not $17/hr turning into $17.50 next year while the price of bread doubles overnight.
from a gen z perspective, it’s ironic to me how that generation complained about their children being spoiled, then for those children to grow up and raise millennials and then proceed to call them spoiled. it’s like the cycle just continues.
early gen Zer/late millennial here, totally agree. The more I learn about psychology, the more I understand there is no such thing as “spoiled”. Kids are just reacting to their environments. If a parent is having issues with their kid, they need to reflect on what the real issue is and take responsibility for the results of their own parenting. (Then ideally make a change.)
Millennial here. You know how when someone complains about today’s youth, you have this picture in your head about this little old man with a bony frame, balding head and pants pulled up far enough to give a wedgie? Well, the Boomers couldn’t wait. I think I was the ripe old age of fifteen when I was told I was an entitled, lazy little good-for-nothing. I don’t even remember what I did, but I remember being amazed that the one calling me such and railing against my generation couldn’t have been older than his thirties. Now that my generation are getting a bit older and preparing to hand the torch to the zoomers, I sort of get it. It’s not that anything is wrong with us, it’s that we’re younger. It’s like the Boomers think that if they make enough of a stink, somehow it will negate the effect of time. They’re old now, my generation is on our way to being old, and someday Gen Z will be old. Boomers are just scared and like all cowards, take it out on someone who can’t fight back.
@@fablethewolf825 I hear you and have noticed that too. Certain people of all generations are quick to deflect their own feelings of inadequacy onto others, sometimes their parents or their children. Please don’t take it personal or classify an entire generation by the opinions of a few. I think we ALL we’re dealt that hand at your age unfortunately, and I still think it’s unfair. You constantly hear, “you’re old enough to know better” AND “you aren’t old enough to decide” selectively! I will be 60 this year and now wish I had someone doing that to me so I could say, “okay, you decide please” because I’m exhausted from making decisions. :)
I really DO remember that time in life above all, as the most frustrating. Apparently I’m tired now. I am supposed to have all of the wisdom now and the most important thing I’ve learned is I can still learn from people of all ages simply by listening. Perhaps you can help me if I ask a stupid question? Hopefully this won’t make you throw away what I just told you bc I’m just being honest. Here’s my question I think you can answer: Which generation do I fall into? I mean, am I a baby boomer or what? I’m honestly admitting I don’t know. I’ll be 60 this November but I’ve heard the Baby Boomers phrase used before we grew up referring to children conceived after WW2? We were, but I’m the youngest of 4 so? Please pardon my typos, regardless of the question. I’m not stupid haha, just can’t see well anymore due to aging, medical issues and allergies.
Thank you. Have a great long weekend! :)
@@crystalbelle2349 Baby boomers are technically those born 1944-1964. However, my mother was born at the end of 1963 and she doesn’t identify with boomers at all. She doesn’t remember and/or wasn’t born when all of the defining moments for them happened. She will argue vehemently that she’s Gen X lol. So I’m inclined to think that maybe whoever decided on the years should have ended it a few years earlier. Do with that what you will :)
Point is that after WW2 every generation has been more spoiled than the next.
Here I am at 74ish. All I remember is the poverty and brutality of a single parent home. While all our classmates were surfin USA, and rockin around the clock, My brother and I had to work in that yard and dig up another tomorrow.
Don't miss those years. Been retired 10 years now. Enjoying every minute of it.
Sounds wonderful. Retirement is an experience unfortunately I will never have. As an independent filmmaker, there is no such thing. No 401(k) etc.
David Hoffman - filmmaker
Here's a hug 🤗
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker You're doing an exceptional job. Ty for these generational insights.
And, I'm confident that you'll figure out your retirement. Cheers.
Right on. And continue to enjoy these years. You've earned it. And, remember you're never too old, to rock and roll.
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker so who told you that you weren't allowed to invest in the stock market by yourself and that you had to have an employer do it for you?
I was the last six kids. I was born in 1955. Kids were to be seen and not heard. We were not allowed to talk at the dinner table. I remember getting slapped because I was laughing at the dinner table. How sad is that? Nobody valued what we had to say.
SAME
Same - this video is bullshit
I was born in 1993 to a narcissistic father born in 1950 and an image obsessed mother born in 1947. By all accounts from their siblings both had very supportive parents and privileged childhoods. My life was "Be seen not heard" and "You are our property, not your own person." They both could have done with a good slapping around in childhood. I learned what bad parenting looks like and I've chosen to raise my children with a compassionate yet firm hand. Every Boomer I've ever known who had a "rough childhood" ended up as an entitled shit adult. We would have a better world if most of them had never reproduced.
Same - born 40 years later. Doesn't mean it's representative, just bad parenting
Wow, that sucks. Sorry you had to endure that. I was born in 72’. My parents were strict and had their own issues, but why have kids if they are only to be seen not heard? That’s Twisted.
I'm so jealous they learned to can preserves in school. Here I am watching 50 CZcams instructionals trying to learn. Haven't used calculus since high school though. 😕
I was fortunate that my parents Cannes a lot when I was young. They taught me how to can jam. One of these days im going to learn how to use a pressure canner, but first I need to figure out what to can.
Same...
Funny how people want schools to do the job of the parent...
well said, I feel the same 👏👏❤️
@@Lee-km7qq well I homeschool so in our house the parents do the jobs of the school AND the parent. My mom never learned to can either so she couldn't have taught me. She taught me to sew clothing though. ☺️
Parents of Boomers: These boomer kids are too spoiled
Boomers today: those Millenial and Gen Z kids are too spoiled
The cycle continues, and in 50 years, it’s gonna be us young people doing that too.
And then there's gen X in the background
I'm already doing it
Hell no! I refuse to act like boomers act towards us young people!
Snow Bunny Prince that’s what we all think but we probably have don’t it at some point. If you have gone to high school, you know that the school unanimously hates on the freshman just because they are freshman. That is an example of people hating on the younger generations.
@@rou8390 I've never done that but I have seen others do it. I dont understand the disdain people have for the younger generations tbh! We should be encouraging and helping each other! 🐰💕
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room".
--- Socrates (469-399 BC)
Best and very accurate comment!!!
@@Andre.W96
You nailed it!!!! So true
@@Andre.W96 tbh i dont think gen z aren't all that bad (yet)
other than their music where the "rapper" sounds like hes half falling asleep because he ate 2 dozen xanax bars
@@RogueCowTurd that's just the gang culture in youth... It sucks :'(
Juvenoia is nothing new!
I understand most of the message in this video but it’s targeted to upper middle class not average working class families. In my experience children were invisible and taught to be thankful for anything they had like food and a roof over your head and a bike if you’re lucky . There was no extra curricular activities just chores .
"Children are individuals with their own personalities", and right after that - "Oh how we spoiled them with this way of thinking" lmao
Home economics was an awesome class. So was shop. It’s unfortunate that they have removed both. Kids need to learn to balance a bank account, sew, cook, saw, and use a drill. I’ve been grateful to know both.
Our school put boys and girls through both home ec and shops. We all liked that.
Boys didn’t get to take home ec here. And girls weren’t allowed in the boys’ draughting/shop classes. And I, a girl, ended up being stuck taking sewing and never made anything that wasn’t inside-out or backwards 😂. My grad year was 1983. I think it’s better now. My son took cooking and sewing (and he did much better than I did).
It’s a shame indeed, as a member of gen z, I’ve had to teach myself all that, and my parents were busy working so we could afford to have comforts and a sense of saftey. Life has been good to me the way I see it, I’m not forced into crime, on drugs, or affording food or a roof.
I mean, hell what more could you want in life, a place to rest your head and feel safe with a family that loves you. I think that’s all you really need
I was born in 1955. Went to a Catholic high school and took college prep courses. Then I didn't go to college! The only practical course I took that was of any benefit to me was typing. I wish I had taken home ec.
You can learn anything on CZcams. If kids want to they will once it becomes a necessity. There’s no excuse now! We didn’t have the internet when I was a teen.
Then:
*WWII Generation:* Go get a job, you bum!
*Baby Boomers:* Don't tell me what to do!
Now:
*Baby Boomers:* Go get a job, you bum!
*Millennials:* Don't tell me what to do!
Ryan Hartwell It's more that they can't get a job
Yeah honestly, back then they could afford a lot more with a super freaking basic job. Those same jobs nowadays either pay less or everything else costs more, and to even get the job you have to jump through a ton of hoops and spend a ton of money to maybe get your foot in the door. Then boomers and Gen X have the gall to say we're lazy because of it.
Professor Rosenstock more like womens studies and art degrees dont get you anywhere. Jobs are everywhere if you actually try. It was their choice to go to college for fields with either no job security or fields with no jobs.
justanotherblankchannelman you do realize that gender studies and art make up such a small and insignificant amount of chosen majors, right? Gender studies is just a specific form of history and art majors are usually on scholarship or funded by parents. Even engineers are facing market over saturation.
are you living on planet earth with the rest of us? i got an art degree from a small liberal arts college back in 2013, and i'm currently earning almost $80,000 a year working only 40 hours a week. i'm managing editor at a local medical marketing company.
what type of degree do you think is worth it? computer science? nursing? law? sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but none of those degrees guarantee anything. immigrants willing to work for less money and a glut of jobseekers in those fields are making it increasingly difficult to find positions. meanwhile, those of us with art degrees and a bit of talent are having no trouble getting interviews--and getting hired.
sorry, but i think you're working on some long outdated concepts...y'know, like when half of the country worked in factories or on farms? the world has changed. people need to change with it.
Dad went to Korea and Vietnam..I had nothing but respect for him. He was distant and he worked hard. But still, I couldn't fault the man. He is the main reason I got ahead in life.
I guess simple minds will settle with less...
Whatever that means..
"They thought life was about being free and being happy"
I mean shouldn't we aspire for life to be that way. He said almost as if to say that life is shit and not happy. Which my answer to that is, why give life if life is a miserable existence.
I am not sure who that he is that you are referring to. Please give timecode.
David Hoffman filmmaker
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker its at 1:45 onwards!
Freedom is important but people need responsibility to feel purposeful too, and to give meaning, which is what a lot of people simply don't feel now. Comfort kills ambition. The fact is that human beings do need hardship to thrive. Unlimited comforts just end up destroying humans because humans will always look for some kind of adversity and something to fight for/against, even if they have to make it up, hence the ridiculous "social justice" causes of today. If people were given actual adversity, those social justice causes would disappear overnight when people realize how frivolous and stupid they are in comparison.
@@subverted6555 My experience in life is that you are correct that one big stuff happens, smaller stuff becomes less important. But that's true on the both sides. True for social justice issues and also true (hopefully) with those issues that the other side raises constantly, sexual orientation, etc. I think of the Cuban missile crisis, 9/11, and some of these really bad fire as we been having near us in California as such experiences. In fact my house and my archive largely burned to the ground in 2008 changing things in some surprising ways, including some good ones.
David Hoffman filmmaker
i think they meant that they thought it was the only thing that mattered in life. I agree being free and happy are the priorities, but you also have to have responsibility in order to be free and happy. that man worded it really weirdly
Sick of hearing live within means bs. People can't pay bills period when cost of housing alone is 50% of their monthly take home. WAGES ARE NOT RISING WITH INFLATION
correct..i am a boomer ..i see the difference..folks do not see what happened..its another reality..
This clip is about the parents to the generation born after WW2, though. These parents had to live through war and depression. They are not talking about Millenniels or even Generation X.
you can thank the 1965 immigration act for that
Maybe if people get an education they will make more money. A high school diploma is not an education.
Most people can't live within their means because living isn't within their means.
When the 'American Dream' was actually possible.
Yes, now people are to lazy for it to be.
Zion segregation? that is not the american dream.
Remember the 50s was a time before the immigration act of 1965 which boosted inflation
Well, that's debatable. Literature from around this time and even before (such as Of Mice and Men) started commentary on the death or nonexistence of the American Dream. It's just more obvious now because everyone can share their complaints and financial concerns in seconds.
The American dream is marketing. Nothing more, nothing less.
"They took it for granted that life would improve automatically". Those are some true words, the fallout of which we're definitely seeing today.
One of those fall-outs is soaring national debt.
And this is how the greatest generation ever (WW2), gave birth to the worse generation ever (Baby Boomer) The whole purpose of this video is so, we don't make the same mistake with our children.
We see a lot of it on TV today, program made by Baby Boomers are very self center as in thinking their parents mistreat them, because they didn't spend enough time playing catch with them as kids. My mom is like that. I mean my grandpa worked so hard when he was young that he suffer long term liver damage when he is old and my mom still angry at him, because he wasn't at home enough when she was a kid.
Those are very true words, for those of us who never saw the process of getting that benefit.
There was a time when a person could get a decent paying, stable job without years of college and tremendous debt, and could work there until retirement. Companies valued their employees and employees were loyal to their employers. Then these American companies started moving overseas for cheap labor, and the shareholders' and CEO's profits became more important than taking care of the employees. It's hard to have a better life when the world has changed the way it has.
@@jeancorriveau8686 National debt doesn't matter ever since the moment post WW2 economic boom begin, no matter how high it is it doesn't have any impact on economy at all, US has national debt 200% higher than thier GDP while China has it 400% higher than thier GDP and yet somehow they are able to keep up and are suffering problems from completly other cases
I love the realization that “children are people”
Hard times, create strong men
Strong men, create good times
Good times, create weak men
Weak men, create hard times.
Word!
Anom Mona there’s a distinction between strong men and overbearing men. Strong men actually make life better, while the overbearing type is just trying to fool everyone into thinking he is strong by pushing people around.
Bullshit saying if you take a look at history.
@The Flying Dutchman
>The fall of Rome
Which one? The fall of the western Rome took more than a century - that's a lot of generations.
Also, It had a ton of external drivers, like great migration.
That's a truly unfortunate pattern. "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it."
Children as people WAS a new concept post WWII. Throughout history they were considered labor primarily - or tradeable possessions for wealth building. Oftentimes they were burdens due to poverty.
Children were considered assets, especially for farmers. The more kids you had, the more workers you had for your crops. And the more kids you had, the more security you had in retirement because they would take care of you in your old age.
Right. Women had babies to provide farm labor. When a wife died in child birth another stupid woman would take place.
@@michaelwhisman7623 well choices for everyone were limited back then and people had to eat.
Interesting. My father was def considered an asset, where his family made him work starting at 8 yrs old on the farm.
Not so, it's an idea that goes far back in theology.
My mother was, and always be an enigma to me. Here was a woman that had her children in the 50's and early 60's, divorced, worked her way up to being VP of a company, and yet she was terrified to be alone, she remarried immediately after her divorce to my step father, who was the nicest man alive, but she had no passion for him, that was clear. She made enough money, she didn't have to remarry, but she was terrified of being alone. I, on the other hand, was fiercely independent. I went to community college, had a good career, made a very decent income, had my own apt and refused to "settle down", as my Mom put it. I was young in the 80's and had a blast! As I approached 30, with no need or want to live with someone, let alone get married, my Mom would literally sob and say things like, I'm going to die and you're not married and you'll be all alone, I can't bear the thought of it. I used to tell her, Mom, you should be happy for me, I'm doing well on my own, I don't need anyone to support me, I'm happy, why can't you be happy for me? I eventually did "settle down", met someone I loved and had 2 children. My Mom passed 10 yrs ago and I took care of her at the end. She told me repeatedly how happy she was that I was married. It had to be her generations hang up. That being said, I miss her terribly.
The patriarchy is sadly almost as strong as blind religion.
@FC-hj9ub Leave your narcissistic, pseudoscientific interpretation of good-faith oldschool feminism out of this.
I grew up in the 50s. Everything was about family. We did everything together. We NEVER had dinner until dad came home from work. If he knew he would be late, he'd call and say, "Feed the kids dinner!" I helped my dad with everything, gardening, washing the car, painting, etc. That was how I learned how to do things. My sister was in the kitchen with my mom being taught how to cook ! Every vacation we took together. We were never left with others while they went somewhere . Our family unity was there even when they got older, and I took over the role of caretaker for them. Another thing that to me was an important factor in my life growing up, was we were Italian. Family was everything !
The first generation to say "Hey maybe treating our kids like shit isn't such a great idea after all" lol
Who? Boomers? My boomer parents did not agree with that sentiment.
I don’t think it’s a generational thing...it all depends on how you were raised and if you want to continue abusive behavior, encourage narcissism or engage in a healthy parent/child relationship where you can be a parent and friend. My mom was born in 67 and dad in 64 and they weren’t that great tbh.
It really is just based on the person.
@Not My last name exactly 🙌👏
Carlos Matos well, in a sense. But that's not what the video was saying. It was saying the way the 1950's parented wasn't perfect. It's saying it bred a generation of crazy wild kids because they hated what their parents were. It's basically saying what went wrong in that generation
@@phant0m0th_ my mother and father were born in the same exact years as your parents... strange.
“The message was clear: this is the way your life should be. And if it wasn’t something must be very wrong”
TV in the 50s, social media now. I’m sick of it. We keep putting our effort in what it looks like ínstead of what it actually is.
I agree
Exactly. There is no real value in being performative.
All to make a buck by solving problems that are manufactured to be solved.
You are 💯 correct
THIS
My father would have been 100 years old this year. This was his generation and he was the best father in the world. ❤️
Well he wasn’t a boomer if he would have been 100 last year! The 1920’s babies were the young people who fought WWII, and who had the babies when the war was over. He was a parent of Boomers!
@@andrewhaywood3853 They were “the greatest generation”
I don’t know, my parents were boomers and I grew up in the 80s and they were always like children should be seen and not heard. Always assumed they also had a terrible upbringing
I heard it too. Later found out they were both spoiled brats growing up. 🤣
And yet you are still offensive. I guess you didn't learn much.
@@kathymcmc Fucking hell Kathy, bet your kids hate coming home for xmas
@@heybejaybe809 lmao the only way Kathy has a baby is if she stole one from the hospital
@@mikaelgaiason688 Hehe
This explains the boomers sense of entitlement so much
Angel Eyes millennials are more entitled tho
Every generation vexes the generation before them.
This video didn't show that there were women in the Army as auxiliary groups, women who took temporary jobs to support WWII efforts, and were in factory jobs in WWII and displaced instantly by the veterans when they came home. It was devastating to many women who wanted to continue those jobs.
I wonder if part of the 1950's was to emphasize that a woman should return to the job of being homemakers and get a husband and raise a family and leave the salaried work for men.
@Garrett Dodds
It's too bad masculinity is portrayed as toxic, because there are a lot of talents that men bring to the table. Generally taller and more muscular than women, they can get the stuff off the high shelves at the grocery,and they can spot me if I'm uncertain with my movement or balance. Or also moving large, unwieldy things like furniture down steps or flipping over or turning mattresses.
I believe men should be allowed to show their feelings but also work together in projects like DIY. One of my favorite pictures my mom bought was of a man giving his full attention to carving a bowl out of wood, about the size for a casserole or to hold fruit on the table, or toss salad. This man looked gentle, strong, focused, and determined, in every way what I see good men are. Caring. Respectful. Feeling.
The men's dynamic is often different from women's dynamic, but each brings unique talents to the family.
The great depressioners were entitled
Ginny Jolly I wish people would realize that. Men and women are different for a reason.
I like watching old video footage and photographs because people's faces always look different from today or other times. People in 1950's pictures have a different "type of face" than people in 1910's pictures and so on. Almost like every decade humanity gets a graphics patch.
Zarathustra Zarath I’ve always thought the same thing, faces from the 50s look so plain I think
different makeup maybe
It's the camera quality and fashion, mate. Our faces didn't literally morph.
Aron Larsson
We got fatter. So we kind of did morph
I agree
This really inspires me to do something similar with my generation. I was born in 1999 in New York and was raised around a lot of old world philosophies and to compare and contrast that to the age of the internet seems both exciting and heartbreaking.
I blame some of the problems we have today on the 1960s. In the late 60's, we said things like, "let it all hang out, or, if it feels good do it, or, live the way you want to live." Never mind any consequences or taking responsibility for your actions. Now look what a mess we have. Gun violence! Here in Central Ohio we have 2/3 shooting EVERY SINGLE F_____G NIGHT! No consequences and too soft on crime here in Columbus, OH. I was a hippie back then and thought all of this freedom was really "cool." I never thought that all this "letting it all hang out" would lead us to where we are today.
I was born in 1955 . The best part was all the personal freedom . They sent us outside to play as early as possible and only noticed our absence at dinner time . I had so much time to build forts and rafts and make acorn mush , like they showed us in grammar school.
It was growing up without supervision mostly . Which was awesome . Both my grandmothers had their own businesses. No one ever told me I couldn’t do stuff because I was a girl. No one told me much at all, they let me figure stuff out on my own . Life was very educational because you could learn so much on your own .
I feel sorry for kids these days , daydreaming time is a thing of the past and their time is scheduled like if they were in the military .
That sounds like the type of childhood I'd wish my daughter to have. The issue is, there aren't any children playing outside anymore, at least not in the neighbourhood we live in. Children here are being kept indoors most of the day. I really do worry about my daughter's creativity and problem solving skills.
That sounds amazing.
Pedophilia is rampant. Even in the 90s when I played unsupervised by mom I had people approach me in a white van and offer me candy. On a separate incident and old man asked me to go to his appartment and play games. I said mom told me never to do that and I didnt go. About a week later we found out a man got an unsupervised 5 year old to go with him and he assaulted her. My two besties were molested. Cant let kids wander
Wish I had that, oh well, can’t change the past
Yeah, now everyone is a damn helicopter parent. Children ought to be able to freely interact with each other, they don't need constant supervision and regulation.
I'm a millennial and I just want to be able to afford rent and food and healthcare for how hard I work every week.
You can pick 1 or 2 of the 3. Not all 3.
better skilled job, specialize in being special. You’ll always find someone hiring, recession proof jobs are a must as well
@@atl3630 [Laughs in world outside the US]
Its always been hard. Almost impossible to live on one paycheck, therefore working spouse or roomates. It was true 40 yrs ago for me its true now. Of course you want to be paid fairly, dont blame you.
Game Hero you can do so in the US you just gotta work hard.
I was born in 1951. My dad served 8 years in the Marines in WW2. My mom was the homemaker and took the responsibility of raising my brother three years younger than I and myself. My dad expected his kids to become responsible by requiring age appropriate chores as time went by. My mom never picked up a sock off the floor or any other clothing. We were expected to pick up after ourselves including making our own beds when old enough. Mowing and snow shoveling was delegated. From what I recall there was competition for jobs after the war when the men came home. My dad had several layoffs and we had little money. We wore hand me downs from my cousins. We never froze in the Winter and always had food but at times we'd complain about eating the same stuff and my mom would say while we are eating our beans and rice.." I wonder what the poor people are eating tonight". She was a very wise woman because hearing that made us feel grateful and thinking we were not poor people. Even though my mother took the brunt of raising us we were not momma's boys. My dad didn't want whining or complaining. Being poor we were resourceful making toys and entertaining ourselves. We became Boy Scouts and learned a great deal in scouting. As a matter of fact my knowledge of using a compass and a map in scouting came in handy in Vietnam.
I went into the military after high school no money for college and at 18 left home. A few years later my brother graduated and went to community college. To shorten the story my dad died at 85 and my mother died at home,her wishes st 96. On that day she got up made the bed, got dressed and came down to the kitchen and was drinking coffee watching the morning news when she fell over out of her chair and died instantly.
What year was your dad born ?
You din't pick up those socks without some "encouragement" though. My son flat out tells me "no" with a smile on his face. If he was a boomer he would have been beaten. I will tell him it's not ok to say no and he has to do it and with a lot of my time and stress he will do it eventually. But I don't smack my kids around to make them comply. That would he so easy! It's hard being a parent who puts in the extra effort.
I have 3 sons (grown now) and a 14 year old daughter. I feel sad for her that she has not once been allowed to go play outside alone. It's just too risky, one time is all it takes for a child to be kidnapped. And even at 14 she's petite and could easily be scooped up and we'd never find her.
She was followed once in Wal-Mart by 2 adult men right in front of her father and brother... The perverts were very bold!
The distribution of sex has apparently changed along with the Feminist indoctrination. Now a small proportion of men are having lots of sex, and the majority are having little or none. Meanwhile, sexual activity is necessary for an adult male. Without it we are likely to become depressed, and depressed we are likely to become violent. Women made a bunch of hasty entitled demands and never stopped to think of the long term consequences. Doubling the workforce halves the value of labour. So now instead of just dad having to work to live comfortably both adults have to work to get by cheque by cheque. In the end, women may need to be oppressed for them to understand how good they had it.
@@freefallwefall You almost kind of make some valid points. But there's a line, and you're stomping all over it.
@@freefallwefall incel
Not on my watch. As soon as i would assume or see someone following my daughter, I would pull out that strap real quick. No questions asked.
I would have been afraid if I were them. My husband would have attacked them.
"Children are real people" later pivoted to "so they can take on some debt"...
This. We stopped protecting and providing for our kids and instead expect them to be self supporting at 18. Well 20lb bags of rice don't cost a nickel anymore and houses go for more than 10K. Good luck finding a job with really good benefits and a pension outside of government.
@@ih82r8 IRAs are literally a thing. But they don't teach about that in schools anymore, so I guess they're screwed.
@@miffedcuttlefish6139 IRAs are subject to only the amounts we can contribute individually, and depending on salary and cost of living, that may not be a lot. Employer (SARSEP) pensions or matching 401k contributions are fewer and fewer.
My son recently bought a house worth $600,000. I told him that in past generations, we bought what we could afford. He replied, that's not the way anymore. So, He will have to work all his life, so it's more a debt than a mortgage.
@@jeancorriveau8686 Great point! :)
In the 50s, if only the MAN went to work, you could survive and prosper. It was an entirely different economy in the cost of living for all the basics was very cheap. This is something they never take into consideration when they try to compare themselves to today's millennials. Both parents working 40 hours a week is not enough to keep up in this rat race for much of the pay level jobs available. Not to mention the cost of healthcare today. I'm a baby boomer and I would be scared to be graduating from high school or college today, hoping to be able to make it on my own, so therefore I never blame the millennials it's like comparing apples to oranges
Indeed, when I went to college and took macro economics they talk about how the conomy is growing and household income has increasingly risen... What a load of crap, while the economy has grown; household income has only risen because the continuos inclusion of women in the workforce, women studying higher paying careers, women getting equal pay... That's it, nothing to do with corporations paying more out of their fabulous increase in production.
how about the fact that the boomers could go to college for about twenty bucks or something a semester! Look at it now!
Alice Wonderland that's why I'm learning how to weld in the Army. High paying, in demand, and not sought out for. It's a perfect job for those ambitious enough to work for it
You're forgetting also that you could get a blue collar job now and live pretty good if you are willing to buy way out in the boonies. The house would be nice and so on just like back then or you could live in the hood. In so cal you would have to drive around 100 miles one way it's possible just not the same and very time consuming on our jacked up freeways
Dawson Heinbaugh go into welding plumbing.
It's harder to get into than the iron workers union but the guys you'll be around will actually have an iq.
I work construction and the farther away from those brutes the better, plumbers are much better tradesmen. Looking it that too a journey man with little to no responsibility in Los Angeles get 46/hr.
HVAC gets around 46 as well
Electrician gets 43
Not sure about the other trades, I hear some rumors of iron workers up near 70 but like I said the farther away from those guys the better, zero iq
Ask black people if they felt the same way, I bet you’ll get a different answer, how many black kids were “spoiled?”
Oh trust it wasn't us. My dad's parents were moving from the south because my grandfather was a ww2 vet and was threatened with lynching in Mississippi. He was a hard worker and in Chicago still couldn't find great work denied the GI bill and didn't get the white middle.class welfare aka FHA loans. Ppl really pretend that hard work will get you there. Nobody was working harder than some of those black Americans who were rewarded with second class citizens. It surely wasn't those ppl growing up starting love sex revolutiined and voting in terrible policies that would screw generations to come. They were trying to finally gain thier equal citizenship.
Facts
There were more black owned business in the 1950’s than any other time in history. Blk people were hard workers and strives to take care of their families. In the ‘60’s the government started handing out welfare checks and food stamps and destroyed a great race of people by making them feel sorry for their self. Sad really.
@@sevinstorey4365 “…any other time in history *up to that point.” Yes, black people were thriving. We always have. This does not mean that we were feeling that same excess that white america was feeling. There was still predatory banking, redlining, Jim Crow, we couldn’t vote yet, etc, etc, etc, etc. This is the typical white response. “Black people were doing better than ever!” Well duh, no slavery… but you could still get legally lynched because it’s Thursday.
I feel as though that’s pretty obvious...racism and all
It’s sad because these men had grown up in the Depression and during war times and I think because of that childhood it made these men want to provide and make enough money to provide a safe, comfortable home. But it made them absent from their families and sad inside. I think it created a generation of fatherless boys and boys need a good male role model.
Parents who treat their children as objects, extensions of themselves. Have no respect for their children. Its disgusting.
I grew up with a narcissist mother, she was raised by narcissist parents. Its disgustingly damaging.
Children raised with love & respect grow into loving, respectful adults.
Yup, if you have never experienced it yourself you can't believe it.
Same for me too.
And yet, it is the responsibility of every adult to themselves become a well adjusted and complete individual. People can change and improve themselves, fight the demons they inherited from their parents so they don’t in turn pass them onto their own children.
I was raised by baby boomers and boy, nothing could be truer to trying to make things appear that we had a perfect family
Meanwhile it was actually hell behind closed doors
I think the way they were raised made them narcissistic egomaniacs
And now the internet is doing the same to the generation growing up. The future is fucked.
@@damiancampbell7534 well no, because at the same time, this generation isn't going to have kids anyways
I was born in 87 and my parents were born in 45. Making it appear like the perfect family was usually the goal
@Andrea Mendenhall I'm a millennial raised by baby boomers
Couldn't be more true unfortunately.
It's funny... the 1950s parents in the video are grumbling that their kids are lazy, spoiled, and entitled. But every baby boomer kid in the comments is saying they had to work extremely hard their whole life.
Nowadays, baby boomers grumble that their kids are lazy, spoiled, and entitled.... yet the younger generation feels they work incredibly hard, usually multiple jobs at once.
So what this video taught me is that no matter the time period, elderly people will never change. The current older generation will always be grumpy and assume that no one else has ever worked for anything lmao
This documentary seems to be pretty biased against younger generations, as well as housewives. If a man or woman wants to stay home and raise children for a period of time or indefinitely, that's perfectly fine and they shouldn't be made to feel guilty for that.
I think the whole point is that it was the thought that women could only find fulfillment through motherhood
When the man at 2:06 explains how putting the work in was worth it in this time, it really hits home. Someone working at a grocery store could support a house payment, a car and a family. 2019 called. They want their idealism back.
Not true. This video is about middle class suit wearing men and tv shows. It has little to do with the average American then or now.
@@sue9378 the tv shows were a reflection of the community at the time, if it went too beyond that it would be cancelled
But the economy is great better than it has been in years. He forgets to say only if you are in the top 1% or living off the public and flying to Florida for gulf most week-ends.
@@barbarapinkston7435 what are you talking about? The inflation is horrible. It is deff not better now, you just think it is because entertainment and MSM clouds judgement and compassion for the issue
@@corywiedenbeck1562 I don't know what you are talking about. Unemployment is higher because people have to work 2 or 3 jobs and that is both people in a household have to work to hopefully get a place to live Healthcare is bankrupting families, climate change bringing destructive weather everywhere and the man in the oval office is a nasty name calling liar.
My Mom and her siblings were neglected. They were born 48. 50, 54. My Mom found a letter she wrote to her parents where she wrote over and over that she was hungry. At first she was laughing then the look on her face was a mix of horror, anger, and sadness.
This bothers me and humbles me. Much love
Childhood is a relatively new concept. It's only just over a century old. The advent of child labor laws, the creation of sociology, psychology, and compulsory public education had to evolve. Concepts like identity or family or childhood are by in large social constructs that evolve over time.
Of course this film deals specifically with white, middle class folks. Those of us who grew up poor had two parents working to make enough money to live on (yes, in the 50’s) who did not indulge their children. We were expected to obey, to take care of ourselves and younger siblings, and to behave in school so that neither of our parents would have to take time off work (hourly wage jobs) to deal with our mishaps or misbehavior. But, since all the other people in our neighborhood were in the same circumstances, we never noticed. And by the way, we just thought the tv shows were some kind of fantasy. None of us, ever, in or neighborhood had a mother who cleaned the house in high heels!
In elementary school, I told my grandmother I wanted to be a doctor. Unequivocally said that girls can't be doctors they could be nurses. I was born in 1951
Old ideas die hard. Grandmother-in-law told new sister-in-law (who was about 12 at the time) that girls couldn't do math. Didn't take on grandma, but made sure new sister-in-law knew that was crap!! Oh, and that was in 1982.
@@whisperingsage the comment isn't about nurses vs. doctors. There are things doctors know and can accomplish that nurses can't as well but OP is talking about the limitations society places on females holding certain occupations.
Did your grandmother not hear of Elizabeth Blackwell?
@@Juliaflo , bigots hate facts
So are you a doctor or not lol
Holy shit they could afford a house, at 28 years old!? Amazing, I presently am immersed in debt, I work 2 jobs and cannot afford a house or a piece of land to build me a house, much less raise a family, I live with my parents and help them with the bills in exchange for a roof, times are hard.
Same
i hope it gets better for you bro....it snot easy out here
Bit instead if blaming the government, banks inflation, etc, let's blame feminists, old men and young ppl. Yeah.
7:16 I was born in 1980, in South Africa. At age 17 at high school I completed a full aptitude test with the rest of my grade to see which careers we were suited to. I was told all of the ones mentioned here... Today I run a busy Arts and Entertainment company, I'm a a multipotentialite who works on over 40 different creative areas. Despite being gifted in music and arts I was never encouraged to follow that career path! 1997!!
I was luck to get a house about 15 years ago before the housing market crashed. I fudged a couple numbers and they gave me a house at 19yrs old. I still have it today. If I tried to get a house today they would laugh in my face
My dad was born in the 50’s and he’s my best friend. I’m lucky to have a dad who makes time to spend time with me. I’m able to share with him my thoughts and feelings. If I need to cry I go to him.
The entire boomer generation was spoiled... this all makes sense now.
1:10
I don't know how you can hear the narrator here, or this entire video, and not see how similar it is to now.
This also includes 2:06. This will happen more frequently and to a higher degree as time goes on.
Born right in the middle of the baby boom, I've always worked hard, paid my taxes and my debts, never cheated on my husband, volunteered in my community, never smoked, drunk alcohol, or used illicit drugs, voted in every election...and wasn't much different from everybody else I went to school and worked with. Still, you don't have any trouble saying the tens of millions of us are all the same and all "spoiled."
@@lcandsps1052 You haven't done anything wrong. Don't listen to these young idiots.
@@Nana91171 spoiled kids are almost always brats. No kids should be spoiled...
@Kim Greene But our generation works harder in school and is more intelligent, the concepts we're learning are far more advanced now. Mental work is still hard work Kim.
“children are actual people” huh never thought of that
It's because so many see their kids as extensions of themselves and not separate people
Before that it was children should be seen and not heard.
Stupid generation still made progress for us, imagine if this was never “discovered” and we were just “discovering” this now? Just like they’re still “discovering” that animals have feelings and that trees make noises the naked human ear can’t hear. Can’t exactly trash a generation for making progress, no matter how small.
I mean we still have parents thinking that their 6-9 year old is trans. Just because their kids say they are so, and now we have a major issue on our hands where parents are fighting for the right to allow their kids who’s minds aren’t fully developed to physically and chemically change their sex. We live in wild times
Youth culture has ruined our society.
In the early 60s, we had "Career Day" at my junior high school. We learned about different careers, and then we each went one by one to talk to our school counselor about it. I decided I wanted to be a farmer. The counselor told me, "Honey, girls aren't farmers. They MARRY farmers." I said, "Well, how about a veterinarian then?" "Well, you can marry a veterinarian, if you like." SMH.....
But if you call this sexism some men are going to whine
Julie Purpleskater So, which one did you go for in the end? The first or the latter or something different?
Julie Purpleskater Meh, not everyone thought that way. I was a kid in the 60s and my dad always told me I could become the first female Prime Minister of Canada.
My mother had to work in my family farm from childhood till marriage. My grandmother still work with agriculture. But it was in the countryside, my father grew up in an entirely different culture where women stayed in kitchen.
@@thejoyofreading7661 Well, whining begets whining. If you whine about people whining, then you can expect people whining about people whining about people whining.
Tv and the internet seems to have taken the real joy of childhood away. We played all day outside in the fresh air and had loads of fun. We didn’t see bad things on television and didn’t have I phones. It was a joyous time.
I am a 1950s kid, and I can guarantee you that I was not the center of attention, except maybe on my birthday. The rest of the time it was "Sit down and shut up, or go outside and play. Grown ups are talking." Also I used t get the shit beaten out of me for things like talking back, coming home late from school (which I walked to and from, BTW), and making bad grades. I had a part time job when I was 13, and a full time job when I was 17. So don't tell me how easy I had it.
You didn't have it easy at all, Ned. And that is not what this video is saying. Remember that this is a clip from a six hour television series I made on the 1960s and I heard many stories like yours and some from those who had the horrific experiences you had, became some of the greatest 60s rebels. I don't know if that happened to you. But to be sure, you didn't have it easy.
David Altman filmmaker
“I wasn’t allowed to go into the real professions” I think part of the problem with sexism is that we don’t see traditionally female jobs as “real” jobs, as if a woman has to be doing the same things as a man to deserve respect. Whether she goes into a traditionally male field or not she deserves respect, period.
oh my god preach.
@Ashvin Vaidyanathan Teachers need to be paid what they are worth and they are worth allot! Professional athletes on the other hand...not worth a fraction of what they are paid.
@Bruco Alidas I wasn't aware since I never follow anything sports related, except who wins the World Cup. It's terrible how young men now a days are being duped and their masculinity being slowly eroded by the NWO under everyone's noses. I loved it when men where men. They were so much fun then. Now it seems to me young men have lost their way and their confidence. Sigh.
Right. If a woman does a job she is "naturally suited for" where is the skill in that? Pay her a sensible wage. Her bonus is her contribution to society.
Her point was not that her job couldn't be a real job if it weren't men's work. Her point was that being a paid professional --doctor, lawyer, engineer, etc. just wasn't supposed to be an option for her, even if she wanted it, regardless of whether a man would typically do those jobs. I would imagine that even if there were no male doctors, she would consider being a physician to be a real job, because it requires specialized, higher levels of education and comes with a hefty salary.
Never thought I’d hear anyone say “children are real people”
Lol same
It’s a book
Children were seen and not heard. Children were secondary to everything.
Well if you consider all the molestations that went on at the time...
I think it’s referring to fact that people didn’t consider the interior lives of children
In Greece the most successful people are the ones whose families stick together in business, as well as in life in general. I believe the same holds in every culture.
Yes!! This is why immigrants are succeeding in Canada. They have family values that we just don't in Canada. The boomers kicked all their kids out at 18! Not just a generarlization it was truly the norm. They just wanted their kids gone. I cAnT wAit tO eNjOy mY rEtIrEmEnT.
Its absolutely crazy that the effects of 1920's depression era are still being felt in 2022.Its about to be 100 years since that era and its only just barely losing its grasp on society
Those wars have definitely still left its mark!! I say this all the time. We haven't gotten over it. It spilled over into generations.
I tried to follow in my parents footsteps - went to to work everyday, worked weekends, did as I was told, and at the end of the year it for me a 25 cent raise.
I hear ya. Except I haven't had a raise in 2 years.
What's that today adjusting for inflation like $10 raise?
I told my job I got my bachelors and they raised my wage. By 10c.
I asked for a raise. I was told - .25 now, and another .50 at the end of the year. At the end of a year the company switched hands and I had to sign some paperwork. I said "I was promised a raise" and I was told that I was "so entitled". I quit that day but got full employment insurance because the paperwork had stated I was "laid off" temporarily until the other paperwork was signed! I became pregnant immediately and lived off of EI for months in perfect bliss. (Ok other 4han being really sick) Checkmate!! They even tried to dispute it but my paperwork proved I was "laid off". 🤷♀️😅
A nice change of pace from the high-level garbage I usually watch.
TV?
No, just give a quick scroll through my Quality Content playlist.
Explanation+shameless self-advertising!
Just feel like I should point out that cancer always manifests itself spiritually. You're not special.
Why is this so relatable?
I was born 1950. Had a wonderful life as we were blue collar middle class. I was absolutely a daddy’s girl. Played outside mostly climbing trees and running in the woods with many friends. I remember a great life with great parents. We took vacations every year and went out to each about twice a month. Lived in a rural area and most of the. Neighbors thought we were rich because dad worked on base at Caamp lejeune Nc and that was a good paying job for then. My early life as an adult in the 70 ‘s was not bad either. I wish we could all go back to those days.
In 1954, my father told me i could start to college the next fall and take engineering, make good grades and be good at it. However, when I graduated, no one would hire me
Because you were a woman, of course. No girls allowed.
@@Christine-kq9ok Yeah. That's like a top demand field now. Wish I went that route.
That's sad
"For out of an increasing understanding of child psychology has come the understanding that children are real people!" 😂😂😂 seriously man that's just tragic
@EGGBERT INKABOD ?
back in the day children were meant to help around the house and farm... if you lost one or two its ok you an just have another...
its still like this in many parts of the world...
baby boomers, the generation that led to our downfall.
LordVader1094 Which generation taught them again?
I think a case can be made that the Greatest Generation was actually the group that screwed us all, creating sprawl, oil dependence and nukes, though people before that were certainly responsible for pointing them in that direction. Maybe it is simplest to blame God.
Werdfrerb2
The environmental situation is neither ward5150, mine, nor my generations' fault. The cost of education, the cost of housing, the cost of medical care, is neither ward5150, mine, nor my generations' fault. Get fucked.
GH
I'm vegan and I have a bachelor of science. I am currently writing a reflection for the animal welfare hui that we just had with our Minister. You go around attacking random people on the internet, that you don't know anything about, trying to make all vegans look like idotic assholes. Thanks for that. It causes a lot of damage for our environment and animals, because it puts people off of veganism.
GH
Every person that I know is boycotting Kat Von D now, but she seems right up your ally, so maybe you can go buy some basketcase liner or something, since a fraction of profits goes to an animal sanctuary- feel good about yourself in your own little way.
I'm glad I watched this.... The beginning explained everything. It summed up the general feelings of the 1950's parents. To understand the parents of a certain generation one must look at when that parent was a child.
I love how the flight attendant said she couldn't do anything with medicine but she said she could be a nurse. She also said she 'couldn't go into a real profession' like being a teacher or a nurse isn't a real profession.
Sadly that's what people of her generation considered "real professions." Like those old politicians who call teaching a part time job and sadly young generations who believe them.
Back then, those jobs weren't taken seriously as they technically still are now. They were and still are, primarily female jobs. A woman could be a nurse, but not a doctor. A woman could be a teacher, but not a scientist. This led to a lot of woman holding a grudge towards those professions, because they wanted to have jobs men were going to, because the were given with so much more respect. It's wrong for the woman to look down on teaching and nursing professions as though they are serious professions, but it's also wrong for society in general to view those professions as "easy for the ladies to do, and if a man does it he's a sissy".
“At home this would be a minor tragedy.” No, it would be an annoyance. Use it for syrup on pancakes instead of jam on toast. That’s what my 1950s/1960s mother taught me - if my fudge didn’t “fudge,” she’d put it in a jar in the fridge, & buy some vanilla ice cream the next time she went to the store. Then she’d tell the rest of the family: “Tina made these wonderful hot-fudge sundaes for our dessert!”
@rocky mountain lass I was raised the complete opposite. My dad would constantly bitch, scream, moan and complain about every minor setback and inconvenience. I've never known someone so be so self obsessed and entitled. Even as a child I could see how pathetic it was. A real man (or just adult in general) tries to solve problems, not play the victim every single chance he gets.
That jelly being declared a flop? I have to disagree. I grew up with my mom’s homemade jelly. I much preferred it to be soft like that. It had better flavor (to me) than the firm kind. Unfortunately, my dad preferred for his jelly to “stand up and look you in the face”, as Mother described it. She most often deferred to my preference since I ate it the most, though. It’s how I try to make it now, but how runny / firm is mostly left to chance since I’m not as good at it as my mom was.
I was born in 1947, at the forefront of the boomer generation. My family motto:
Use it up.
Wear it out.
Make it do,
or do without.
We never had credit cards or loans that I know of. I got a paper route at 12, and been working virtually every day since. Worked my way through college & took 8 years to get a 4 year degree. No one I knew was fat.
However, I do feel a lot of sympathy for the youth of today. You have been short-changed by the money changers who bankrupted the country with the Vietnam war and had to take us off the gold standard. It was then that our "money" became nothing but fiat, and unlimited amounts could be issued. It wasn't the boomers who declared that war, but it was the boomers who fought it. You have been short-changed educationally, too. I know that my son's K-12 education was not as rigorous as mine, and can only imagine how sad it is today. Not enough history, math, writing, science...in other words, the basics. Not enough individualism & too much conformity. There's much more, too.
Growing up in the 50's we were not allowed to express our authentic selves. Children were seen but not heard. We couldn't talk about what mattered. Going to college was not required to have a life so parents didn't have that burden. I believe each generation teaches the previous one. Trust intuition. Live fearlessly
As kids, we had the burden of achieving a full ride scholarship.
College is still not required to have a life. In fact today it’s a one way ticket to debt slavery for the majority of attendees.
@@ordinarydevin 🤣🤣🤣
Free ride to debt baby !
Life is all about trade-offs. Every generation has its challenges.
College is just a bunch of useless liberal studies trash that makes you no actual living wages when youre through with it. just to shove noses into politics.
My Grandma and Grandpa were very poor and wild in the 50s. Laid back and like to have a good time. They weren't a fake "proper" family. They were real with how they lived. They died when I was young and I hardly remember them now, I feel like I didn't get to know them well because of it.
This is interesting for sure !! Technically I’m a Gen. X baby but I don’t feel like one completely. My parents were both born in the mid 30’s so I was raised by parents who taught me the value of working hard and taking care of myself. Thankfully they took time out of their day to actually spend time with me and genuinely treated me with love and respect and taught me to do the same.
"The massage was very clear: This is the way your life should be, and if it wasn't, then something was very wrong"
That's creepypasta material
Happy New Fears the “massage”? Was it a back rub or foot massage?
@@memberofthelambily1340 lmaoooo
In another decade, every other decade is a dystopia. It's only yours that's real and just... Right?
"Children are real people" xD
Children should be seen and not heard
It's true
Junkers It’s not 1959 anymore, backwards thinking.
GregWolf 😂🤣🤣
Lesbian Amazon Sister this is true unfortunately that trauma is ingrained in the DNA of people.
The "can't get a man with your brain" song made my stomach turn and my eyes well up with tears. Glad to be a millennial whose husband fell for my for my intelligence, humor, ideas, looks, life goals! My husband loves me as a whole person and sees me as such. We are equals.
This is what I pray for. To be valued. But if it isn't meant to be, I will still be happy and thankful. Much love
I was also born in 1955. We were always outside. Our parents would stand on the porch and call our names for dinner. And the only rule was to come home when the street lights came on.
“Dad was so busy at work til 2 or 3 in the morning...”
uhhh, your dad had a second family my guy
More like a side chick.
Lmfaooo
Hey it’s not fair to make assumptions!
He could’ve been a drug dealer.
My dad also "worked" that late
LOL
I wish I was taught how to make jam in school. I'd rather have knowledge that allows me to be self sufficient than sit in an office staring at a computer all day so I can be a consumer and buy everything I need.
T Nicole well try and remember, 95%of the things you buy, you dont need. Simplify your life and you will be free
Nobody needs jam. Its 80% sugar. Besides you can learn to cook from CZcams.
I got a D in home economics because our teacher was a mean old fuss pot that assumed certain things were innate in females. When the only boy in the class could crochet and I couldn't - she was UPSET. And this was in the late 1980s!
You traded Home Ec for Sex Ed. Lucky you.
@rocky mountain lass LOL! No, my home ec teacher was married and loved to "show off" her grown son when he came to town to visit. I got the feeling she felt that she felt I wasn't trying hard enough because I must've been "subversive feminist" invading her class. I grew up in a very conservative town. My mother was a stay at home mom, and she encouraged me to be whatever I wanted to be - I think she was actually afraid for me to become a stay at home mom. But, I was observant of how my father treated her like she was one of us kids, and I KNEW that life was not for me. Basically, kids learn at the feet of their parents big time.
66 here and that's not how it was in my home...as children we could only watch FATHER KNOWS BEST and LEAVE IT TO BEAVER when my dad wasn't home, he didn't want us watching those programs because it put unrealistic ideas into our HEAD...truth be told, he didn't want us to realize how dysfunctional our family was and unfortunately still is...I was the oldest and black sheep and known by family as the brainwasher