The tailpiece
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- čas přidán 25. 03. 2018
- Today we talk about the tailpiece: the materials, the models, the fine-tuners and the effect on the sound.
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Very informative video - thank you for taking the time to make it!
Very interesting and thorough video. Finally a quality video that explains the tailpiece. Cheers to you !
Thank you Jonathan for your kind words!
Thank you maestro, always learning with you, regards from México
Thank you for your kind words!
Great video ....... thanks for uploading
Wow, such a great video.
I was looking for information on guitar tailpiece with very little luck. There is plenty on here that will convert over so thank you very much ❤️
Good to hear that I could help! Have a good one!
Thank you for your videos. I'm interested in learning how to make violins. I hope video 9 on your making a violin series comes soon.
Thank you for your kind words! Part 9 will be online the 10th of April!
So educational! Thank you! I have learned much!
Thank you so much for your kind words!
This was very informative, thanks for sharing.
Thank you Alecia!
Helpful ! Thank you !
Thank you for your kind words!
Those Wittners are amazingly good. Easy to string, easy to tune, and they sound good. I have one on a 20k fiddle, and it doesn't bother me a bit.
They are very good quality indeed. I've use so many of theme and never had problems.
Thank‘s for the good videos
Thank you for your kind words!
Very educational. Thanks.
Thank you for your kind words.
Thank you! I have the last one. It's good 👍
Thank you for watching! I see you also have a channel! Pity I don't understand Russian! Enjoy playing!!!
Hello M Kimon, what would you say are the advantages/drawbacks of synthetic tailpieces? What would you say are the differences between plastic/aluminum/carbon fiber ones? Thank you for a very informative video.
Thank u kind sir 🙏🇺🇸🩰
Nice video!
Thank you!
Good video!
Thank you!
I love the look of boxwood soooo much
Boxwood looks good doesn't it!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Just developed a new interest this week .
I want to build my own violin and then want to start taking lessons
Good to hear! Enjoy your new project!
Thank you for this.
You're so welcome!
Maestro, I am inspired by your mix of methods for building a violin. And look forward to the remainder of your "Making a violin" video series. Two questions please; When you sanded the ribs to achieve the taper from the neck end to the tail end, what are the two dimensions that you wish to achieve? Can you explain the effect this has on the sound produced by the instrument?
And could you make a video about chin rest? What type (Kaufmann, Flesh... etc) would be good for the sound, what material will give the sound what kind of effect? something like that! Thank you!!!
Thank you for your video, would like to see a video on how to measure to determine the size of a violin as there are several sizes 4/4, 3/4 and 1/2 size but what are the dimensions and is there classification charts available to determine them and if so where can these charts be obtained?
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Hello, I would just like to know if the fine tuners can be removed on the ULSA tail piece and would you recommend the ULSA model
Wow, it just hit me; I don't care for what clothes I throw on or if my shoes match, but my instruments have got to be stylish.
When I was a boy, my cello always did alarming noises because of the nylon loop not withstanding the string pull and thus skipping a thread or two. Had it at the violin maker a few times with no success.
Finally mounted a brake wire from my motorcycle that sits in a thin black isolation of a headset wire. Sound and attack changed instantly, I am still happy with the solution 45 years later.
Needless to say that it never made these scary noises since that day.
I think that the old loop that you had, that is called "tailgut" was indeed a thick gut string. these tend to brake threat by threat. Today there are nylon, kevlar and (metal) wires that work perfectly. And, as you also mention, they influence the sound and response a lot.
@@maestrokimon it *was* nylon. Still have it in the drawer 😁
@@orangmakan so it was a nylon cable! Never seen that! Can you send me a picture by email?
Hello . If I want brighten up my violin sound. Which one do you advise me to use metal or wood ? My violin has rose wood tail piece
Thx alot
You are welcome!!!
I have an old violin (no label but at least 100 years old, not expensive) with a weird tailpiece... it only has two holes and the strings loop around the wood at the top of each hole. There's one fine tuner that sticks up. Anyone know what kind of tailpiece this could be?
Hello Maestro-Kimon, I have some questions about tailpiece and gut. It seems many expensive cellos have a thinner wire gut than regular or cheaper cello gut. Does thinner gut make a better sound? Can I make a better cello sound by changing the tailpiece and gut?
If the instrument has been fitted with Wittner geared tuning pegs and has no fine tuners on the tailpiece, would using the heavier, ebony tail be the better way to as far as sound is concerned?
And there are now 100 comments. Good video by the way!
Thank you!
Very interesting video, having a violin with some problem notes this video is very helpful, i did not knew the loop is really important in the violin; question, if there is an iron loop on a ebony tailpiece, that does not increase the wolf tone?
Thank you for your kind words. It's difficult to say what the exact result will be on a specific instrument. As I said in the video it's more of an paltry and error method!
I have difficulty in finding a good tailpiece.... I find Teller boxwood is not made of good quality wood. When buying a tailpiece I often see a choice of size (for violin) let's say a Hill model could be 110mm or 115mm.... why is this ? and how do I determine the best size for my violin.? Thank you maestro, brilliant video
Thank you for the info. I have heard of the term wolf tone,but do not know if I would recognize it. do you have a video or info (sound clips) with this sound? thanks
I don't have a video about the wolf tone yet. But if you don't hear anything strange you have no problem. Don't start searching for the wolf because if you find id you wont get rid of it!! (don't search for problems you don't have) greetings!
Hi maestro kimon,
I currently want to change my heavy metal witner tailpiece with a wooden one with two integrated fine tuners. I would like to make the sound on my violin brighter as my violin is quite warm sounding and the g string could open up a little. What tailpiece would you recommend for my needs?
Thanks!
Darren, as I say in the video there are no rules in this matter. You will have to try and see if it is what you want. Sorry I can't help you more!
Hi sir, for you what would be the best material for a tailpiece? Have u heard about kamagong and jujube? What would u prefer? Thanks
Hello Katrina,
As I say in the video there is no "best material" or "best tailpiece". Every instrument and every players has it's own "best". If you are looking for a new tailpiece and have specific sound desires you will have to try different options keeping in mind the characteristics that I mention in the video. I have never heard about tailpieces from the materials you mention.
Thank you for this video! I have an otherwise well made violin that was damaged with a polyurethane varnish. Is there any tailpiece material or style that could help counterbalance the “tinny” sound caused by the varnish? I’d like more resonance and warmth to the tone. The current tailpiece is ebony.
Also, can you tell us about “harp” style tailpieces? Does their shape serve a functional purpose or is it just for visual style? Thank you in advance.
Hello Amanda! As I say in the video there is no consistency in the effect of the material, shape (harp or straight) and position of the tailpiece. Try to decide for yourself what you want to change on the sound of your violin and by following the general instructions I give try (by trial and error) to find the correct tailpiece for you. I wish I could give you more straight forward advice!
@@maestrokimon Thank you so much! I appreciate it!
Can You advise me, please, how to tame(fix) wolf tone on violin? Maybe some standart adjustments?
The only standart adjustment that you can try is a wolf killer. Otherwise you can try changing the length and material of the tailgut as the length and material of the tailpiece. It is a bit of a trial and error process.
@maestro-kimon can you use the wittner tailpiece with 1 fine tuner
They make two types of tailpieces: with 4 fine tuners and with none. You could use the one with none and put a separate fine tuner on it. I think that it would work.
Hi, my name is Jose. Which tailpiece recommends me, I look for the best and the best material for the best sound. Where can I get it? I’m sorry for my English, I speak little. GRACIAS por su video, very good !
Hello Jose. As I say in the video there isn't one tailpiece that is "the best" for every instrument. You have to find your one "best" tailpiece according to you instrument and the sound you want to achieve. You will have to try different ones as different settings (length if the tail-gut). Sorry I can't give a straight answer.
On a cello Kenneth Kuo suggests to tune C string after length to F sharp, pinching the open D sting to get an interval, because D is usually the weakest cello string.
This is indeed a method that I hear a lot. As I say in the video there is no unic "best" solution or advice, it's more a trial and error mater. You could definitely try it.
I‘m using fernanbuco pegs, fernanbuco tailpiece and ebony chin rest on my violin. Do you think it is a bad idea to have different materials? If so, why?
As I say in the video, there are no hard rules here! If you like the sound of your instrument then everything is ok. Feel free to combine materials if you have the feeling that with another setup it sounds better.
What do you think of the harp shaped tailpieces? Would you recommend that using one that would be better than the english model ?
I have no experience with the harp model. But still it is a matter of trial and error. I have client that like them, others hate them! If you can afford try it!
@@maestrokimon well, i can't afford to try XD. that's why i was trying to reach out for help. Anyways, thank you for your response!
welp, that was a nice tailpiece he showed in the beginning
Thank you!
please enable subtitles translation
But this its already in english? :D
Any thoughts on the Kuo tailpiece?
I haven't had it in my workshop but it looks good. But as I said you have to try it to find out if it fits your wishes.
Greetings, Maestro. I have an old violin (no real value) I would like to work on.
The tailpiece, as most, has a small piece of Something (????) inlaid, crosswise, at the string end.
Mine has a couple of bits missing. What is it called and can it be replaced, or do I need
to replace the tailpiece? Thank you.
I don't know if the part has a name but I have never seen it for sale. I think that you will have to replace the tailpiece.
@@maestrokimon: Thank you, Maestro.
That is strange, with it being an important piece.
Keeping the strings from vibrating on the end of the tailpiece. (that's important) 😁
I would like to keep the tailpiece, if possible (it is an old family piece), so maybe I can figure out something to do.
It shouldn't be complicated, but I'm sure it will be a pain in the behind. 😣😖😬🤬
It's not for sale as it is a part that doesn't come of easily, and every tailpiece is slightly different so hard to make a standard replacement part.
@@maestrokimon: Understood, thank you.
If I do figure out something, I will send pictures.
It will be some time, from now, as I have many other things pending.
I wish they made tail pieces out of Osage.
What do you think about Bois d'Harmonie tailpiece? Is it worth the price?
I have no experience with them, they do look beautiful thou! But, as I say in the video, it is an trial and error mater, you should try them on your instrument.
Is there a difference in size and width of a Baroque style violin tailpiece compared with a traditional violin tailpiece ?
Yes the baroque are pritty different that the modern ones.
@@maestrokimon Can you put a Baroque tailpiece on a modern violin without modification?
No actually not. The baroque tailpiece misses the part to keep the strings.
Does the fine tuners affect the sound
Everything affects the sound! If you want a fine tuner only on the E string you could use a tailpiece without and ad a separate one, but if you want 4 fine tuners I would recommend a tailpiece with incorporated fine tuners. Of course the differences are more evident as the quality of the instrument increases.
how is ebony warmer than other wooden tailpieces?
Liam De Rosa, it has to do with wood density I believe.
That is correct Jean-Simon!
Which will be best in a 100 USD violin??
On a $100,- violin I would put a Wittner one. Not for the sound but the functionality.
Hello Maestro, where did you lost harp tailpiece?:)!
Sorry? I don't understand your question.
@@maestrokimon Why you didn't tell about the arch or harp tailpiece? Like this czcams.com/video/OzobpbYXpss/video.html
At the time I couldn't find enough information. I have clients that use them though and are very satisfied with the results. Definitely worth trying.
La quantità di palissandro delle montature non è problematica per il CITES,
Non ne sono sicuro Simone. Ho ordinato la cordiera in palissandro a Teller e mi é arrivata con la documentazione necessaria. Anche il mio fornitore principale qui in Olanda me ne parlava e sembra che devono avere un documento per ogni pirolo (neanche uno per un set da 4). Io non uso palissandro per strumenti che devono viaggiare per essere sicuro.
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Thank you!