Cellist and inventor of carbon fiber Tonal Tailpiece Kenneth Kuo show you how to safely and easily install or change a cello tailpiece using simple household items.
I have followed your very good instructions! After having setting the bridge in right position ( and soundpost )and convector angle and adjusted the tailpiece ( C- string ring F sharp between bridge and tailpiece and the rest in tune ) the settlement and positions is fixed and very easy to control and maintain just by tuning ( check the F sharp ) and now and then adjust the bridge angle. My cello sounds better and more equaly day by day. Really recommend this to other cellists.
Thanks, Ken. I want to replace the tailpiece on my cello and there are no luthiers here in the UAE to do it. This is very helpful! UPDATE. I just installed a new tailpiece following your instructions. It was really simple. I even managed to get an F# on the C string after length :-). Thanks.
Is the F# placement of the tail piece a substitute for the measurements? It was my understanding that that the distance from the nut to the bridge must be six times the distance between the bridgee and where the strings terminate on the tail piece tuners. No?
Thanks for the video and talking about the afterlegnth on the C string I want to ask your opinion about the harp shaped tail pieces ? I have one on my cello because of its looks but I've noticed that it doesn't sound as it used to do and I feel like I'm always forcing my bow in order to get sound out of the cello, should I put back the old tail piece ? It was a WITTNER tail piece, Wich one you recommend ? Thanks
Hi Personally I prefer the straight tailpieces for many reasons. I would definitely recommend you to try going back to the wittner, and see if you can get the C string afterlength to an F Sharp, let me know how it turns out.
@@hotcello thanks !!! Just checked the after length note in the C string and is a C sharp !!! omg ! I'll put back the old one, thank you so much ! It's good to find someone who's not only a Luthier But also a good cellist, be well !!
@@SamsonCheung thanks, I've been thinking about the Acustikus tail piece but the tail gut is just a wire and I've heard that sometimes it cuts through the saddle
You can actually adjust the pitch by bending the top of your bridge, sometime when tuning, your bridge will move. The more intune to F# the better. Good luck!!
Usually 115 get you a G and 120 get you F#, try doing 122 and let the tailgut stretch and make sure you adjust your bridge as well, some times moving a tiny little bit makes a big difference. Hope this help
Try D on the G string first, violins are harder to do since it’s much smaller. Some of my client benefits from C# and some feels right at home on D. Good luck and keep me posted
Tell me something - a luthier told me today that nylon tailguts are terrible because they stretch, and overtime this stretched the whole setup mechanism forward until SNAP! Is this true? I’d of course prefer that my tailguts be made of only the most durable and safe materials..
Hi Kevin You should try to put the tailgut as wide as you can, it will adjust it self depending on what tailpiece you got and what material your tailgut it is. Let me know if I can be of further help
@@kanatsizkanatli Perhaps a little smaller and up to the top in a darker color ? It was hard to see the tail gut placement . I did get it in place . Enjoy his vids . Thank you .
I have followed your very good instructions! After having setting the bridge in right position ( and soundpost )and convector angle and adjusted the tailpiece ( C- string ring F sharp between bridge and tailpiece and the rest in tune ) the settlement and positions is fixed and very easy to control and maintain just by tuning ( check the F sharp ) and now and then adjust the bridge angle. My cello sounds better and more equaly day by day. Really recommend this to other cellists.
Thank you so much, very happy it worked out for you.
Very informative. Thanks.
Extremely helpful, bravissimo. A fascinating explanation as I never heard before. Thanks a million
Got it on the first try thanks to you!
Awsome! Glad to help.
Thank you,most greatful!
Thanks, Ken. I want to replace the tailpiece on my cello and there are no luthiers here in the UAE to do it. This is very helpful!
UPDATE. I just installed a new tailpiece following your instructions. It was really simple. I even managed to get an F# on the C string after length :-). Thanks.
Congratulations! It’s not easy but glad you got it!
thank you! I thought the F# would be to confront the wolftone on the exact same note
Do you suggest a F# after length for viola?
Is the F# placement of the tail piece a substitute for the measurements? It was my understanding that that the distance from the nut to the bridge must be six times the distance between the bridgee and where the strings terminate on the tail piece tuners. No?
Thanks for the video and talking about the afterlegnth on the C string I want to ask your opinion about the harp shaped tail pieces ? I have one on my cello because of its looks but I've noticed that it doesn't sound as it used to do and I feel like I'm always forcing my bow in order to get sound out of the cello, should I put back the old tail piece ? It was a WITTNER tail piece, Wich one you recommend ? Thanks
Hi
Personally I prefer the straight tailpieces for many reasons. I would definitely recommend you to try going back to the wittner, and see if you can get the C string afterlength to an F Sharp, let me know how it turns out.
@@hotcello thanks !!! Just checked the after length note in the C string and is a C sharp !!! omg ! I'll put back the old one, thank you so much ! It's good to find someone who's not only a Luthier But also a good cellist, be well !!
Witter tailpiece serves as student aid to compensate poorly made pegs. The weight dulls the tonal projection.
@@SamsonCheung thanks, I've been thinking about the Acustikus tail piece but the tail gut is just a wire and I've heard that sometimes it cuts through the saddle
Thanks for sharing. What if my F3# is a bit flat? is that Okay ? does it have to be F# 440? thanks
You can actually adjust the pitch by bending the top of your bridge, sometime when tuning, your bridge will move. The more intune to F# the better. Good luck!!
How long should the tailpiece be from the bridge to achieve F# note on the C string? 115mm? At 120mm I get a G note.
Usually 115 get you a G and 120 get you F#, try doing 122 and let the tailgut stretch and make sure you adjust your bridge as well, some times moving a tiny little bit makes a big difference. Hope this help
What pattern to prefer in tuning violin string after length?
Try D on the G string first, violins are harder to do since it’s much smaller. Some of my client benefits from
C# and some feels right at home on D.
Good luck and keep me posted
@@hotcello Thank you! We will give it a try, and after some time will pass I will share the result in this thread.
Tell me something - a luthier told me today that nylon tailguts are terrible because they stretch, and overtime this stretched the whole setup mechanism forward until SNAP! Is this true? I’d of course prefer that my tailguts be made of only the most durable and safe materials..
Yes, and the connecting area sometimes will loosens and I have seen some that just break off completely
Hi, does a expensive tailpiece on a cello worth it?
It worths,but the sound quality still mostly relies on the bridge and the instrument itself, tailpiece works also,but relatively less
I was trying to see the placement of the tail gut . Peace .Thank you .
Hi Kevin
You should try to put the tailgut as wide as you can, it will adjust it self depending on what tailpiece you got and what material your tailgut it is. Let me know if I can be of further help
@@hotcello Thank you .I got it in place . Thank you for your great work .
Can I buy one of these from you?
Yes, please visit www.tonaltailpiece.com
Thank you
Of all the vids no one shows the placement of the tail gut .
Your www address is right in the way . put it up top .
He can put it where he likes
@@kanatsizkanatli Perhaps a little smaller and up to the top in a darker color ? It was hard to see the tail gut placement . I did get it in place . Enjoy his vids . Thank you .
@@stilllife4u I agree, that text is directly in front of the one thing I wanted to see
@@kanatsizkanatli OK SMUCK .THEN WILL WATCH WHAT EVER THE EF I WANT TO WATCH . SORRY I WATCHED IT .
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