Most Realistic Airshow in DCS? | F/A-18 Demo
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In this video I fly my own F/A-18C demonstration at Creech AFB airshow in DCS World. Enjoy!
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0:00 - Cinematic Intro
1:48 - Start Up
8:15 - Taxi
13:13 - Takeoff
21:25 - Landing
25:08 - Shutdown
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Wow man, the amount of detail and care you put in any of your videos is incredible, and it keeps getting better. Also, Fantastic performance :)
Cheers! Very kind :)
Never really thought about how much must go into an airshow display, so to have a sim hobbyist be the one to highlight it by going so deep is kind of mental.
Super impressed, makes me want to try it rather than just shooting missiles at stuff - just have no idea where to start.
The wistle on the P51 is the air blowing into the gun holes in the wing.
That fly on your pfp is making me angry
Cool video.
With regards to the P-51D whistle? It IS caused by the inner most gun tubes of the three guns in each wing.
This tube is recessed into the leading edge of the wing by several inches back to the muzzle of the first gun, while the remaining outer guns have their muzzles just protruding from the leading edge.
At high AoA the passage of air over the inner gun tube causes a resonance tone in exactly the same way as blowing air over the neck of a bottle. It only occurs during climbs, dives and turns and not in straight and level flight.
Its easy to confirm this by watching a P-51D with guns perform and then watch a P-51D with the guns removed and with the ports faired over giving a clean leading edge, perform. ....The one with the guns will whistle while the one without the guns will not.
In 2012 I visited Stallion51 in Florida and flew TF-51D (originally a P-51D) "Crazy Horse", it had no guns hence a clean leading edge; It did not whistle. Its stablemate "Crazy Horse 2", which is often seen at airshows, has guns and does whistle.
Another thing to confirm this is that the Razorback P-51B/C's do not whistle in this way. The four guns in the Razorback wings are arranged in a different way to the D and have no inner blast tubes, thus there is nothing to cause the whistle.
If the whistle was caused by the ventral air intake or the supercharger, as many mistakenly believe, then the Razorbacks would whistle in the same manner as the bubbletop D.....but they don't.
Aaaaaaaahhh! Super interesting! Thank you! And your argument is very logical so I do believe it! Makes me wonder who on earth would remove the guns and fair over the holes in this case! This is like the second best thing about a Mustang (after it's looks)! Thanks for the detailed explanation. That is much appreciated!! :)
time on HUD only appears when the gear is retracted. it was changed awhile ago. it really gets in the way when doing the Case 1 pattern
Ah yes, thank you!
Beautifully done as always!
Thanks!!
Nice video! Your flight profiles and transitions into each maneuver are great and realistic.
Wonderful demo flight. Nice to see this both from the inside and outside the cockpit.
It would be cool to watch the whole display the from the audience section, in the sim.
Yeah i'll have another version of this air at some point :)
It’s crazy… we went from Mario Bros. To Virtual Air shows…. Love it.
Yeah world is moving on!
I agree with you. The B1 bomber is so frikkin loud. I also seen it once at an airshow on long Island in New York. They had only one year. And holy cow. I would never forget it. Amazing.
I'm also from LI but left years ago. I loved that the Blues would stay at Republic Airport during the show weekend. And yes, I have also seen the B-1 at a night airshow in full afterburners. Very impressive!
So well done, i used to go watch the Swiss Air Force FA-18 Display if they had a Airshow in Switzerland.
Thanks!!
Excellent! No other words can describe. Keep the vids coming.
Sure thing!! Thanks! :)
Hi ! Nice demo, for the high AOA pass you could take the radar on one of the MDF's, press DATA and unbox DECLT that way you'll have the VV with the horizon even at high Alpha which makes it a bit easier to fly level :D
Good idea!! :)
Fantastic! Loved watching this, thank you for sharing!
Thanks Chris, glad you enjoyed! :)
Fantastic! Thank you, Sir!
I am not an F-18 fan but i thoroughly enjoyed this video. Very well done from commentary to manuevers. Very cool. Lets see an F-14 video?😊
this is absolutely amazing man!
Thanks! :)
Need more. This was sweet.
Wonderful demo, subbed!
Thank you! :)
Just got back from nellis afb air show and this look so real, phenomenal job!
I was there too :) And thanks!!
You make the best DCS content!
Thanks for the kind words!
Superb well done Sir
very well done - that was quite incredible
Thanks! :)
Perfect! F/A-18 Hornet is, together with P-51D , the best module you can have in DCS. I dont fly anything else. F-18 can fly fast, fly slow, low, high, can make air refuelling, carrier landing, aerobatics...love that!
Yeah it's pretty good! Just needs a few flight model tweaks to make go from very good, to superb :)
This was awesome! Thank you sir!
Thanks!! Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing Video Mate, love it
Great!! :)
This is pretty incredible!
Thanks!! Very kind!
Great video. Many thanks!
Thank you! :)
The whistle on the 51 is made due to the 50cal machine guns being recessed in the wing. Creating a small "cup" at the barrel tip. Similar to one blowing into a bottle creating a whistling sound
Hornet is soo nice during airshows
Yep!!
DCS is just super cool. I can't get enough of it. It's like everything I wished for in the early years of flight simming.
Wonderful!!
Cheers!
Outstanding performance! Really cool that you put this together! Thank you for that. BTW, I used to work at Creech AFB doing security work. The Thunderbirds train up there, so we got to see them daily in the off season. In my humble but biased-Marine opinion, they approach but don't come quite close to the Angels. Both sets of pilots are outstanding, but they literally do not come close enough to each other for the WOW factor the Angels generate.
Oh cool! That's cool you actually worked there!! And I do agree, the Blues are the best on the planet IMO!
This is wicked! As a current CF-188 technician I love watching these videos! As for the dirty inverted pass, you forgot the probe haha
Ah yes, the probe!! Will be sure to do in the next one!! Thanks :)
Nice job! I was stationed at Ellsworth AFB when the B1 was inaugurated. By far, the loudest engines ever! We used to describe it as “truly ripping the air apart”. It’s been known to damage windows in nearby base housing. I digress. Great video! Thank you!!
Ellsworth, huh? I was at Malmstrom -- Back in the SAC days.
@@Tamburello_1994 , ah the good ol’ MAC TAC SAC days!! LOL.
That's really cool!! :)
Very impressive 👏
Thanks :)
This is brilliant, outstanding content.. loved everything about the detail and your comments about the real thing. I take it you are flying the real plane? I bought the module on the last sale and now my motivation is back up again to go through all the manuals. Very precise flight manouvers as well... awesome video. Thanks
Thanks! I fly a 737, not an F/A-18 unfortunately :(
AWESOME STUFF!
🤙🤙
this was sick man
Thanks!!
Back in 2004 a group of virtual pilots did something similar with I think at the time was Lockon. The only aircraft in Lockon was an F-15's and the Virtual Thunderbird as what they were calling them self's needed F-16's so they Masked the F-15's to look look like F-16's. I think you can still find there videos on CZcams. Go look and I think you'll enjoy them. Oh they also rented out a movie theater in Las Vegas and invited the Thunderbirds to come and join them and all of the pilots did.
Ha, nice!!
Wow! so cool! 👍😎
Thanks!!
Super, super cool!! Loved the commentary throughout.
Only thing I’d change is the transition out of the High Alpha; instead of burner and levelling off, I’d go burner and just climb with the same AoA. I’ve seen that at air shows and it’s awesome!
Have you done a demo that included the high performance climb? Always a highlight for me.
Thanks. I do respectfully disagree about the transition out of the high alpha pass. I don’t like it when the upper out of it keeping that AoA. Just a personal thing.
No I don’t think I’ve done a performance climb in a demo yet. Will keep it in mind 🙂
You've done that before.........
Very impressive.
Thanks! :)
nice video, perfect execution.... watched 100`s of the hornet shows all over the world, 15+ in the hornet squadrons , flight test and follow on and sales for the E/F
The whistle on the Mustang comes from air passing over the gun ports
Yeah so I heard :)
How did you set the camera for external shots? That's amazing 🤩
As for the whistling sound - the other possible explanation is the air ramming into itself around the outside and the gap of the air scoop. Considering that on airshow altitudes the supercharger is usually turned off. The gun ports are covered when not firing on Spits so that would mean the sound could not come from there, meaning that it has to be something else.
czcams.com/video/9LV12aeJBFE/video.html
I actually do think it's the gun ports. Spitfire is not an explanation as the aerodynamics of all gun ports are specific. Lots seem to show as proof that those without gun ports don't whistle and those that have gun ports do. Mustangs I mean. And the B versions don't whistle as they don't have gun ports at all.
Interesting what you say about the roll damping. I don’t have the F-18 but in the Mirage module you can notice that it’s the FBW actuating a little opposite elevon to stop the roll on a dime. Maybe the FBW logic for the F-18 could be tightened up a bit if it’s a bit mushy in arresting the roll.
Great vid as always.
Yeah I wish they "tightened it" as the real thing is definitely sharper! And thanks! :)
Honestly enjoyed it almost as much as a real F/A-18 demo. 😎
Ha!! Awesome!!
Great video. Where you get the air force ground crew? I can only find navy deck crew.
It's a mod. Massun92 asset pack I think :)
Cool Video! But you didn't do a "photo pass" and you should've done a pitch up carrier break for landing! Nice job though!!!
Thanks! Photo passes are boring haha
We need to team up with ya and get the Virtual Blue Angels flying right after your Legacy Hornet Demo =)
Ha that would be cool!! :)
You should use Echo19 new sound mods!! It will be an absolute better blast fr!!
Awesome!!!! How did you get the air show mod? I’m new to DCS
very very good!👍😎👍
Are you flying with TrackIR 5 at 60 FPS?
Yeah sure am, except if you're over Beirut haha. Thanks! :)
Awesome video! Do you have this scene as a mission file at all so I could try it out? If not how do you make an Airshow scene in DCS! Thankyou
There's quite a few mods you'd need and I can't remember which ones I used. To make a scene and place objects just use the mission editor. There's lots of basic tutorials. It's very simple to place objects on a map anyway :)
you need to get ECHO 19 Core audio. It would make the flybys sound way more realistic.
Does anyone know what sim was used for the virtual air tattoo during covid times that looked so realistic
Its coming from the gun ports clearly. I've seen dozens of different mustangs, and only one didnt whistle. That was Trusty Rusty, which does not have gun ports/Holes.
Yeah I agree with consensus :)
I’ve never heard all those warnings when starting the F/A-18 lol only ever “Roll left roll left. flight controls, flight controls”
Please do an F-14 demo
Noob here.. how did you program the displays of the other aircraft? Did you fly it previously and map it to the mission editor?
No you can use mission editor functions to command AI aircraft to do aerobatic manoeuvres. It's a bit of trial and error to make it work. AI planes do all sorts of random things sometimes.
How do you get the camera like that? Awesome performance!
Camera like what?
@@CommandT so incredibly perfect!
Missing a few key things from a hornet demo. Rolling the nose is something they usually do multiple times and it’s actually impressive. They also never miss a square loop. Overall tho, it was well done. I enjoyed it. 👍
What's "rolling the nose"?? And a square loop is pants. No idea why they do it! And thanks! :)
@@CommandT The best way I can explain it is they pivot the jet on the nose. So high alpha pass type of AOA, but rolling the jet all the way around at the same time. I’m Canadian, so I see a lot of Hornet demos. They do this every time. 😂
@@Triple87 I think you're just talking about a loaded roll or a high alpha roll. Yeah, I did half of it a couple of times in my transition to take an offset after passing abeam the field. Either way I did it the way I think looks good :)
T-37 was the loudest for me.
I read the squadron name on that hornet which is VMFAT-101 as VM "Fat Lol" for some reason in my brain. Sometimes I wonder about myself... lol.
Haha!
VMFAT-101 is a Marine Fighter Attack Training squadron. They likely don't fly many of the single seat C's.
Are you using a sound mod for the F18C?
Nope
Very impressive. Well done. 👏👏👏
I agree with your comments about the roll rates and crisp feel. I do feel that some (many?) aircraft suffer from a lack of deceleration when the throttles are fully closed in MSFS and DCS. The Mirage 2000 still has my favourite Ailerons, I just hope the F1 when (if 🤣) it ever arrives will be similar.
@Command T DUDE YOU ARE FU:::::::ING CRAZY! what did you just do man? WWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW. Sorry to be such emotional, but i never saw better F-18 Airshow in DCS as this on. Respect! The F-18 looks so fcking awesome how you fly it and how you manage the whole speed, movements on point. Else, when you look how average DCS F-18 pilots fly, this looks professional. I wish i could fly like you. Are you / was you a real F-18 pilot? Respect dude, you got me....
Holy shit that was cool 😭
Thanks!! :)
Do you have a link to this file so we can fly ypur amazing setup?
Hey, I do but it’s only available for Patreon supporters. It’s one of those perks. It’s $4.50/ month and you get access to all my mission files pretty much. If you ever consider it, the miz file is available there 👍
Hi how did you add people on editor? I try to find my self but nothing.
It’s probably a mod for airshow objects. I can’t remember off the top of my head but maybe just search google and the ED forms… there will be an airshow objects mod.
Only supposed to go .96 in an airshow when doing high speed passes but beautiful show overall
Ha, nice! never knew! And thanks!!
Towards the end you said something about the f-18c not being realistic, We should try and talk to Ed to modify it as they did with the f-16 thanks to Grolwing sidewinder i think
I wish they took my opinion on board but I'm fairly certain they are aware of this anyway as it's extremely obvious and I imagine their FM team has watched millions of Hornet vids so yeah, I dunno :/
Do you have a link for the download of airshow scenery?
I don't I'm afraid! Sorry! I'm sure if you search the forums for airshow mods you'll find it though!
Thanks bro, you just cost me $100 bucks on the module.....dam you ;)
Ha! Whoops!
Is it possible to do a knife edge pass in the Hornet? I thought you'd be the best person to ask :) I've tried but failed miserably - I get zero rudder authority even with differential thrust. It is quite easy in the Soviet jets, but the F/A-18 is a puzzle...
At least in DCS - no. And I've never seen them do it in real life. Just the way the flight control system is I guess.
@@CommandT You're awesome, thanks for the reply! The "in real life" part of your answer is particularly useful too. Thanks again, merry xmas and a happy new year!
@@tomskst-pierre6981 No worries, thanks. You too :)
The Bone is loud... But the loudest I have ever heard is a toss up between the Harrier and the F-35...
Harrier is loud, but very irritating loud! Never heard the F-35 and really didn't imagine it would be all that loud for a single engine jet.
@@CommandT it has the most powerful engine does it not? The damn thing shakes whatever town it’s flying over.
Next time can you make a video from a spectator pov watching the ai do there airshows I’d like to hear the jets from a spectator perspective I bet it would sound and feel so real like you were actually stood there in the crowd watching an airshow
Yep, this will be a separate vid in the next demo that I'm working on :)
Wow.. So THAT'S how you set up the high alpha pass!! So far I've only been able to get down to about 125 knots. I'll try it this way :)
You could technically get it a bit slower but becomes more tricky to keep level :)
Great routine but you missed a huge part. Coming back to flight line with the canopy up so you can wave to the kids and inspire future Aviators. 🧀
Ha! I'll ask ED to implement the pilot waving mechanics :)
Where do i find the mods for the crowds?
I can’t remember which mod that was exactly but I think if you search for airshow objects mod you’ll find it
Hi, Command T. You happen to be correct. The roll rate in a real Hornet is a bit faster and crisper than in DCS. However... There is some information sensitivity in portions of the Hornet's flight envelope, which, for security reasons, are not yet depicted with full fidelity in DCS.
As for 'smashing her down', you are indeed supposed to thump a Hornet down on the runway hard enough to trip the WOW (weight on wheels) sensor.
I hope this has been somewhat informative.😎
Yeah it's annoying that they can't make it roll as sharp as the real thing! Grrr
@@CommandT Soon, my friend. A few more years at most.
Can I download the mission file?
It’s available for patreon supporters 👍
"except for the low speed pass we're going to drop down between 150 200 feet which is allowed in the US, no where else would it be allowed" The Royal Australian Air Force: hold my beer - czcams.com/video/wMbiTqcAOdE/video.html
That's cool!
@@CommandT From inside the cockpit czcams.com/video/-sLCi5b312A/video.html
Fantastic airshow wish I could see a proper air show in the States unlike the health and safety overload of the UK ones
My favourite in the uk was always the American air show base Mildenhall the yanks can sure put on a show sadly no more since 9/11
why no 14?
14??
wish they made the flight control BIT more realistic. Way too quick and the movements of the control surfaces doesnt resemble the actual test. I suppose its nit picking but its supposed to be a detailed sim after all.
Yeah there’s always little bits that could be improved on for sure
?????
After MSFS poor attempt blasts it out of water
“Nowhere else would it be allowed….”
*COUGH* “Russia”
it wouldn't be allowed in Russia. Not in an official airshow display anyway. Pilots goofing around their own base, maybe!
@@CommandT the Russians don’t disallow anything. Look at the bafoonery they pull any time they have a run in with NATO aircraft.
Never really thought about how much must go into an Airshow display, so to have a sim hobbyist be the one to highlight it by going so deep is kind of mental.
Super impressed, makes me want to try it rather than just shooting missiles at stuff - just have no idea where to start.
Ha, thanks! You can start by making up manoeuvres and various speed and height gates to hit for each one and putting them together :)