Developing The Dreamliner: Five 787 Improvements Since Entering Service
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- First introduced in late October 2011 with Japanese carrier ANA, Boeing’s 787 Dreamliner is famous for many of its initial technologies. Extensively using composite materials, packing various fuel-saving features such as hybrid laminar flow control, and utilizing several advanced electronic controls, the widebody jet is an incredible piece of engineering. And for passengers, those electronic windows continue to be a feature unique to the aircraft type and is not yet found on any other aircraft!
For today’s video, let’s take a look at a few things that have changed over the last 13 years regarding the widebody jet’s production and development.
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Wouldn't say just rushed but definitely a new model with new things to learn.
I remember when the 787 came out seeing it on TV was amazing
I couldn’t get to see it because I was still in school and had no interest in aviation at the time. I only got interested 5 years ago with 1 year if school left to go and I still keep it as my afterwork interest
It still is!
Such a gorgeous aircraft either way it goes the 787s 💙💙💙💙
this is amazing
Fixes/enhancements, doesn't matter. It's not like any car manufacturer that puts out a completely new model doesn't have issues either. Some car manufacturers even have issues long into production *cough*VW*cough*
And Airbus' A350s have issues as well. It's just generally less talked about, because it's the almighty Airbus.
A350 has dimmable windows too, just had the flight😜 But, on the plus side of B787 you didn't even mentioned the great pressurisation inside. Feels like on 1000m , the others (older models) do not have that comodity , but feels like 3000m . Long flights are so much afected with this issue. Higher hull preassure reduces fatigue and most important the jetlag. After a 10h flight in the Dreamliner is almost no jetlag , the fatigue is much less than on other planes .
Just my own experience as a frequent flyer. Shortly = The Dremaliner 🙂
You mean that the A350 stole 😂
@@jamiebrowne6913hm let’s see, Boeing stole the idea of a twin engine body and stole the idea of a carbon fiber fuselage
@@maxsaviation9512 correct me if I'm wrong but the A300 was in response to the 767 and the 737 was out long before both of them so who did Boeing steal that from? Also the A350 got the composite use only after the 787 came out Airbus was going to re wing and re engine the A330 till the realized what a beast the 787 was gonna be.
@@jamiebrowne6913the A300 was built and designed before the 767. the 767 first flight was 1981, the Airbus A300 first flew in 1972. Airbus was first.
And the fly-by-wire in passenger jets comes from Airbus mostly :D
@@jamiebrowne6913 Yet A330NEO is just ~2% behind 787 in fuel burn, despite having the same aluminium fuselage and wings with the good old A330CEO.
Love the Dreamliner ❤
Interesting video. I would like see the same theme applied to other aircraft like those from Airbus.
Not sure if I'd use the verb 'appease' unless I wanted to create the wrong impression. Perhaps 'satisfy' would be a better choice?
787 is doing just dandy.
It's the 777X that Boeing needs to get out the factory.
Seats are not made for 300 pound yanks lose the FaT youll fit better.
yes next year is certification Q4
The a350 also does have dimable windows
But they've only just been added, and don't think any planes in operation actually have them yet
@@_shreyash_anandAir France has a concept version of them
Starlux has, and newly built ones that have specked them will have them@@_shreyash_anand
I hate the window tint system. Especially the central control allowing the cabin crew to override and lock the settings for the entire cabin.
one of the reasons why I avoid dreamliners if possible. The 9 across arrangement feels a bit tight as well, but not as bad as the 10 across 777
The reason for that is the behaviour of some passengers that think they own the windows and have the right to keep them open during the sleep time or keep them closed during takeoffs and landings.
@@oadkaYou think the 9 abreast 787 is bad, wait until you step in Cebu A330’s
tell that to the airlines not the manufacture@@oadka
@@oadka It's on the airlines for the seating config. Can't blame Boeing when the airlines put 9 across on an aircraft designed for 8.
JAL does have 8 across on their 787s. ANA used to, then changed to 9 once their Star Alliance partners started putting 9 across.
Like new iteration with new release
I think it’s kind of like Auto Manufacturing the first MY of a new design usually has alot of bugs but as the years go on improvements are made.
But I also do think Boeing hasn’t been overly great in recent years, they seem to have issues across their entire airliner division.
I wouldn’t call it rushed; instead, 787 signifies a pinnacle of Boeing only second to 747 era.
737 MAX was truly rushed with catastrophic consequences.
Original 787 development schedule was simply unrealistic.
And compare to either A350 or original 777, 787 has more teething problems and production issues, despite its EIS delay was also the most severe.
Things should have been done better, really.
@@steinwaldmadchen totally agree with the technical issues in 787 dev! This is also because 787 involved so many aviation-first innovations nobody had done before. I credit Boeing for resolving these issues without having any fatal incidents.
@@bikingmomentsare they resolved? What about the recent whistle blowers?
Hope they make it with more leg room. 😮
Talk to the airlines that make the decision on that.
Dimmable windows are fine ...... Until the cabin crew decide they're in control of them. Which they do all the time.
didn't the a350 have dimmable windows but most carriers opted against ordering them because they simply get too hot which is an issue also plaguing the 78 because...physics?
Umm.. the Airbus A350 has dimmable windows. 🤔
That is much more recent
@@filledwithvariousknowledge2747 still doesn't excuse the blunder
It takes about 5 minutes for the 787 to completely dim the window but it only takes the A350 less than a minute to completely dim.
Does not count as they copied Boeings 🤔👌🏻
@@Southernswag8283Have you actually used the window in 2023? The windows are darker, and operate faster than the older ones. And, Airbus is using the same tech in Boeing windows, so how do you explain the non-existent claims you're making?
All this Info is great but the interior basics need to be addressed - only yesterday I flew Qatar 787-8 from Doha & my god it was the most painful flight ever!! My back was almost broke from sitting in a most uncomfortable seat 💺 in this day & age seats 💺 should be uncomfy for average size person even in economy
787 ❤
It would appear to be a "love it or loathe it" aeroplane. The loathe it factors seem to be 1) most of the operators making the economy class layouts as uncomfortable as possible 2) poor quality control. I have flown on both the 787 and the 350 and would take the 350 every time if there was a choice, but always remember that they are not direct competitors.
This vid had 787 likes, it's hard for me to press the like button no.788
Chicago-based manufacturer.
In technology, process and industry plus savings.. $$$$$$$$
The 787 may be loved by airlines but passengers from flying on it may be less enthralled ?
some of airbus a350 have the electict dimmebal windows
Why would an airline pick a 787 over 777x having seen what Boeing offers on the latest 777's
Boeing is headquartered in Washington DC not the state
Arlington VA to be exact. Right next to DC though.
I’m sorry I only counted 1 is “over the years” (the titanium one), if I being generous, 2 (the battery. The rest happened before the first plane officially delivered…
The battery issue had arised while the first planes had already been delivered and were in service. It was in the very early stages, but ANA grounded their 787s due to the battery issue. And I'm sure other airlines had too.
The 787 needs a new modern cockpit with side sticks like all other manufacturers like Airbus, Gulfstream, Bombardier, Dassault and even Embraer offer in their lastest planes. Boeing has to accept, that yokes are gone and 20 century technology. Even modern fighters like the F22 and F35 use side sticks to control the plane.
The 787 is no longer built in Everett with respect to final assembly.
❤🇱🇨!!!
While there have been some changes and improvements, I would categorise the majority as rectifications.
Not that I dont consider the 787 a brilliant piece of engineering. It is just a shame that it has been tarnished by quality control failings.
So 3d printing is a generic term used for a whole bunch of technologies and processes. It's almost as to say chissling wood by a carpenter and machining a metal part are the same. Norsk and GE's 3D printing are at the opposite ends of the spectrum think Amy Winehouse Vs Taylor Swift
First
Boeing is based in…and it pains me to say this…Chicago.
Now Arlington VA, right next to DC. They just moved (again) last year.
Aren’t they move to a new place?
I'd call them fixes rather than improvements. However they didn't fix the main issue: the passenger comfort (or survivalbility) in economy class.
What exactly there? Because the seating layout is not specified by the manufacturers, but by the airlines. The ANA 787 is really comfortable even in economy. So, what comfort are you lacking?
Boeing rushing the production of its aircraft is old news. The remarkable thing about the 787 is that no plane has yet crashed and no lives lost, unlike the rushed 737 max 8...
There is no such thing as there 787 max 8
787 Max 8 is not a plane that exists
we all know the max 8 was rushed move on
You can clearly see if your his comment he’s not said he’s not saying the 787 max eight he say saying 737 max eight that’s a totally different airplane
@@nickolliver3021 tell that to the families of the 346 DEAD PEOPLE of those two crashes.
Knowing what we know about Boeing nowadays, it is certain that they rushed the 787 development.
Wdym? Its flawless since entering service. Stay mad.
@@brakinglate8828those batteries are flawless isn't it
@@yellownautilus792 fixed after a couple of weeks also that was 9 years ago. Unlike Airbus who can't paint the A350s properly.
@@brakinglate8828But I don't recall a mass grounding of a350s
@@Tpr_1808 airbus still took years to fix the issue with Qatar btw. Also that 787 grounding was barely a month.
Development of the 787 was overly outsourced. It ended up costing more money and is a financial disaster. Note that the 777x wings are made by Boeing and note a contractor. I think they learned their foolish lesson about outsources too much without proper oversight. LOL.
Good technology, but not an attractive airplane, just like the 737.
tell that to boeing. its got over 1000 orders
@@nickolliver3021 give me their number