JURASSIC PARK: Apocryphal Canon and Lore (2 Hours)
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- čas přidán 17. 09. 2023
- The Jurassic Park scenes we never got to see include a lot of older movie scripts and concepts that were almost made official canon and lore but have now been given alternate status as unmade apocryphal material. These include unused dinosaur attacks, fights, longer scenes and different endings.
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According to Laura Dern, they had nearly a dozen models of severed limbs from Ray Arnold. She said during one take, she heard laughing around the set, and looked around and saw that she was dragging all of the limbs from her foot, and the crew was laughing at her. They were only ended up using one arm, but I guess they had a bunch of variations for some reason.
More dramatic death or fake out death impact.
Richard Attenborough blowing away a velociraptor would’ve been such an iconic scene
I prefer him getting eaten by compys 😊
Of all the "missing" scenes. I feel they really should have shown how the T-rex broke free aboard the ship to San Diego. Missed opportunity there. Also the alternate San Diego plot does sound better on paper than what we got.
Yeah, it's so bizarre the Rex just wanders into the suburbs and then wanders back to town; having him go there looking for his kid makes a lot more sense and also doesn't just drop Kelly from the script entirely. Tembo stalking him through San Diego would also have been a good use of the character, given what his arc ends up being (let him feel responsible for what's happened because he allowed InGen to capture him in the first place); I am glad they cut Nick attacking the police, though; I already hate that character and having him intervene in police trying to stop a maneater in a major metropolitan area would just make him worse.
I dunno, it would absolutely be an amazing scene, but I feel like the way it happened kept the horror feel. We don't know anything more than the characters, the boat just won't respond, crashes into the dock, and then we have the creeping dread as they explore the boat trying to find anyone. I dont know how they could fit in the scene without taking away the mystery and suspense of the ship arriving.
I always thought the rex was simply faking being asleep then once onboard it very easily tore out of its restraints and killed the crew
the script said there were supposed to be raptors on the boat that killed the crew, but they ended up just not mentioning it
@@dmign a left over from the first book where Tim sees raptors on the boat leaving isla nublar during the tour, with binoculars found in the car
One of my favorite scenes in the lost world is when the police cars turn around to get away from the t-rex and you see an animal control truck behind the police cars. Gets me everytime. 😂
Michael bay style humor for sure
We’re going to need a bigger truck!
I mean, what is animal control going to do with a rex? Lol.
Haha. Love that movie.
How timely. I’m on a 10 hr drive and just finished listening to the hour long lore video uploaded a couple weeks ago. Looking forward to this one!!
A Jurassic Park analysis that is as long as a movie is what I need to get me through the work day. Glad the first video is doing well. Hope to see other JP CZcamsrs join you in future discussions like back in the day!
Excellent video klayton going over the concept art of things that were non-canon within the production of the Jurassic franchise.
I recently dug out my old Sega Genesis to play that platform's Jurassic Park game. It includes levels cut from the movie but were in the novel like the river, while also building on Mt Sibo being not entirely dormant (in the game, it's quite active). A good friend of mine still plays the Jurassic Park game released on Sega CD, where you go to Isla Nublar after the movie to retrieve the dinosaur eggs.
There's a couple of Jurassic Park games on the Genesis.
Jurassic Park and the expanded version (side scrollers) plus The Lost World Jurassic Park (top down shooter)
You know those games are being re released 11/22 this year 👍
@@crono_8398 Just wishlisted them. Thanks. I can't wait to revisit the Genesis game. I could never get past the pump station as a kid.
2 hours?! We have been blessed. Thank you for these videos, I'm so glad I found your channel.
I like the idea of Eric Kirby being a closer representation of Tim Murphy from the book; I've always liked that character more and I feel like this is a more interesting character than what we ended up with. Cooper being more than just a random mook, but a surrogate father/big brother figure is also a better relationship dynamic than Eric just vacationing with his mom's boyfriend like we got in the final film. Giving the characters more nuance is something I'm always on board with.
Interesting to hear about the river raft scene. I had wondered why the jurrasic Park ride in LA had the t rex rather than the spinosaurus leaping out at you. Now it makes more sense.
I’ve been enjoying reading the lost world novel so far. Me and my older brother had watched the lost world that was on the television last week. As I’ve been reading the novel, I noticed a lot of differences that was in the novel In comparison to the movie adaptation. I did the same thing with the first Jurassic park movie and it’s novel. Klayton, you’re the reason I was wanting to read the novels.
Who wants to see jurassic park the game being canonized
Me, definitely. It’s a rather interesting incorporation of certain novel elements into the films, and gosh darn it, I have a lot of nostalgia for it.
Honestly despite its dialogue it’s the best sequel.
Meh, I'm indifferent.
Men because of the tylosaurs
I would but Camp Cretaceous decanonized it with their Barbasol can scene
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Honestly if they just had a scene of the Navy being told about the T-Rex by multiple sources and denying it, calling it a prank, and moving on, it would be very realistic! And would serve as a huge plot point later of "There are no Dinosaurs on the mainland" later bc the Government would have to admit to a T-Rex rampage in San Deigo that they tried to cover up after not helping with it.
Honestly, fair. Or even if they just had a scene where they called the base and showed them scrambling for helicopters to deploy forward infantry but then Sarah tranq’s the buck in the ship right as the blackhawks are coming on-scene to make them irrelevant by that point. Then it could still be the government covering it up because they were embarrassed that a national laughingstock and his gf beat the US military to saving San Diego from a monster after they laughed at him for years.
7:04 I suddenly have a hankering for breakfast food...
Just a reminder. I would pay full price for an action/horror game set in the book canon world of JP.
If you want a piece of Dino media from the horror genre, I recommend things like the movie, 65 and the game franchise, Dino Crisis, the latter of which is mostly inspired by Jurassic Park with dinos on the loose and are very dangerous, even the herbivore are dangerous if either A; you piss them off or worse than that, B; you try to get their babies without their permission and see you as a threat to their offspring.
7:04. Why is there an ad for Wawa in this Jurassic park video? BTW, I have CZcams Premium and this scared me lol.
Me to, i was listening to this and then I hear about wawas which made me turn and think wth.
Same, haha
I'm also Canadian and don't know what Wawa is, which made me even more curious.
My bad lol it was recorded on accident when I screen recorded the original video 😂 I just edited it out
Imagine paying for no ads. One born every minute I suppose.
You should read for audible Klayton.
Your narration is engaging, this video is a delight.
A 2-hour video from Klayton!?
Hell yeah brother, let's go!!!
Would you ever consider a video about the aesthetic and design of the 1993 park? I remember seeing images of the safari lodge and other similar concept art - pure nostalgia!
What the hell is going on at 7:03? Klayton did you edit a Wawa commercial into the actual video lol
My bad lol it was recorded on accident when I screen recorded the original video
@@KlaytonFioritiLeave it in, it's hilarious.
Great video and analysis of the Apocryphal of the Jurassic Franchise and great points of the videos and it seems very impressive in my opinion.
Great work Klayton and as always, Take It Easy and Life Finds A Way.
They really should invite you to be one of the producers of the franchise. You love the Jurassic Movies, know the lore, play the games... C'mon Universal!!!!
I would LOVE to see you play more Jurassic games, or finish the Dino Crisis game.
Love The 2 Hours Minute Video 👍🏿👍🏿
Ah, excellent. Another wonderful lore video for me to listen to while I work, thanks Klayton!
Great 2 hours spent. Thanks, Klayton.
Thank you for this. Sick at home and this was just the video distraction I needed. Great video. Watched the whole thing.
Dino crisis play through part 2 🗣️🗣️🗣️!!! Awesome video as always Klayton, always up for longer form content 👍
This is probably my favorite out of all of your videos. Loved listening to this while at work, and I do agree, if something out of all of these needs to come back, it has to be that Buck Rex scene from The Lost World right at the very beginning of the video
Man I love your videos. Love listening to this stuff and you always capture it really well!
Love the lore videos!
Keep up the good work!👍
damn Klayton came on-point with the sound editing in that reading of Ludlow's death scene
Good video klayton! Just wanted to say that You & the chaos therum team are like low key successeors to Michael crichton, Steven speilberg & Collin Trovorrow in terms of people that care about this franchise. Over the past couple of days I've binged watched your guys vids & it's good stuff! Hope you guys get picked up by Universal for your insight knowledge some day 👍🏽
If trevorrow cares for the jurassic franchise, he would have made Jurassic World Dominion, NOT LOCUST WORLD DOMINION.
@@wolfpredator155 tbf it's not like he killed off any of the legacy characters. Human or dinosaur for that matter, in fact he left the movie pretty much in the same place is was in when it started in terms of species mixing species. Ideally the next filmaker can pick up on the thread of dinosaurs & humanity co existing.
@@dantheman3546 one of the original characters should have died. Alongside another characters.
@@wolfpredator155 oh for sure Owen grady definitely should be gone with a sacrifice play from one of the legacy characters. Now I'm hoping for a team up film with a grown up Tim taking over from hammond , Eric working with byosin & Tembos son as a wildlife dino hunter/protector helping humanity co exsist with dinosaurs.
Showing LOVE for my absolute FAVORITE channel period thank you for another great video once again I'll always be a huge fan of this channel point Blank. Thank you again and have a blessed day everyone
I think the power plant in Fallen Kingdom, where claire and company turned on the power to find Blue, is the original geothermal plan. The base of volcanoes is the proper location. In the book, the distance between the visitor center, Hammond's bunker and the power plant was never established. The movie made everything seem side by side, which in reality wouldn't happen because the bunker and power plant would be considered eyesores and kept away from public eyes. No different than the way amusement parks operate today. The behind the scenes are hidden.
I personal would love more longer content but completely understand if it's not feasible love your stuff keep up the good work
Man, what could have been with these ideas. There are so many. Really cool, too. Another great compilation.
Great video. Keep up the good work.
Klayton could you at some point touch on the Deinosuchus skeleton that got removed from the filming of Fallen Kingdom, when Owen and Claire were walking through the island? What the creators’ intentions were including it and any past lore in the Jurassic franchise that featured prehistoric crocodilian species.
It’s actually included in the Indoraptor’s genome. Be a cool idea for sure!
@@KlaytonFioriti that’s right, I completely forgot!
@@KlaytonFioriti hay Klayton how are you doing and was wandering if you would be interested in my idea about the idea about the t-rexes in the movies like Rexy Buck and doe and Jr hunted and team up together in packs like the raptors did in these movies and how would a Spinosaurus and Giganotosaurus face off against a pack of tyrannosaurus rex would they stand a chains against theam.
@@nicholashenlisia3098why do you got to write this in my comment thread? Create your own, separate post. And add some periods man. Did you not graduate from second grade?
I'm about to listen to this while mowing my 2 acre lawn
The alternative Ludlow deaths are much more accurate to Dodgsons death in the book but also the finished script isn’t too far off. It’s confusing.
Also I hate that Nedrys character is only remembered for his movie adaptation, the book character is way more sympathetic.
@@tubapower94please share how he is more symphatic
@@martindanrasmussen7237 He isn’t just asking for more money in the book, he’s being blackmailed by INGEN to any potential employer of his basically ruining his life for no reason other than “We don’t want to pay him”
Wow Klayton, amazing vid and comprehensive history - many thanks! God bless to you as well.
Hi klayton! Bought one of your hoodies last week, loving it so far! Very comfy!
Another long one? Upvote and comment for algorithm, will check the vid out later tonight sir!
Ooooh, I'm saving this to my watch list and am looking forward to bingeing this tomorrow during my job ☺️😍
This was so awesome!! Please make more of these :)
This is such a cool concept! Can’t wait to dive into this
Great video. I listened to the entire thing with my headphones while i worked. So many of these moments i would have liked to have seen. Especially a version of the raft scene. That would be really tense.
You always amaze me klayton you made the first one and now you made the second one thank you for making another Jurassic Park/world lore and conon your amazing klayton 😊❤❤👍👍👍 also great video by the way love it ❤❤❤❤
Those movies and books were an important part of my childhood. Thanks for this amazing work
What was that wawa commercial 🤣
Star Wars Explained’s Canon Timeline videos:
“Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be LEGENDARY!!”
Great video klayton! Really enjoy the hour or more long videos!
Thank you! I really appreciate that!
7:04 BRUH WHAT THE F**K 💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣🤣
The sure respect for how much work was put into this video! 🙌🏻🏆
Great idea throwing all of these together. All the expanded JP/JW ideas that we may never get to see on a screen are such a shame. Hopefully down the line we get to see some of these unused concepts used in Jurassic content much like The Mandalorian has done with unused STAR WARS scenes/concept art.
The 1977 photo is a basking shark. I saw a fairly comprehensive video about it some years back. With an outline and having seen several photos and video of decaying basking sharks that have been found at see over the years, its fairly obviously a basking shark......as much as I still want it to be a plesiosaur.
Great job parroting the mainstream debunk 😂
this is a fantastic piece of media. thanks dude.
Here's an interesting observation on the multiple Raptor Packs. Remember when Sarah Harding is able to escape because the Raptors Chasing Her start Fighting?? Well if You look close You'll notice They're not the same Color. One is Greenish, and the other has Tiger Stripes...
Yup!
How is it you can make Giachinno’s Lost World score, and it matches your narration perfectly! I’d happily listen to you narrate an entire novel! Audible need to hire you man!
I don't personally like jeeps but I've always wanted one of those 1992 Jeep Wrangler YJ Sahara models. 😍 It would have been great to see Hammond get eaten by a pack of compsognathus. 😂 Your love for Jurassic Park is off the charts dude! Love your channel. 👍🏻👍🏻
your narration is brilliant :)
For the paragliders from Lost World, I remember there were actually toys. I wanted one for Christmas from the Sears Wishbook for a few years, but didn't get it, and honestly forgot about it until this video.
First things first. I saw your 1 hour vid yesterday and I love your channel. The JP lore is so much greater than I knew, love it.
I do think that any action the military would take however would either be played down to make them seem ineffective, or too quick to be worthwhile. A Trex shows up in thr harbor and I imaginr the response would be to get a few birds in the air and put the monster down. Helicopters are cool, but not fun to watch. If Seals or any military force just showed up in apcs with small arms, I thibk it'd just ha e looked idiotic. Even the scene at the end of JP 3 seemed a little silly if the military was aware of the existence of larger carnivores, which they were by that time. It would have been sick to see a tank roll up though and be shocked by the speed of the rex as it rounded a corner and charged the armored vehicle. But a lot of the scenes would have likely looked silly. I'm personally a little tired of modern media making the military seem inept. Zombie movies and series do it all the time.
I do wish Roland Timbo returned to hunt the rex in the big city. Such a cool and interesting character, I like that they did end his story the way they did but it o ly made me want to see more of him.
I would have loved to see the trex escape on the ss venture. I especially love the John Hammond funeral ending of The Lost World, gives me chills
Amazing video!!
Again love your videos 🦕
This is amazing 👏
Awesome thank you so much
2 hours of Klayton talking about lost Jurassic Park media for over 2 hours!?!? Grab your popcorn bags, this ones gonna be good.
"Children's coloring books"
Shows a man dead on the front of a car.
It legit made me laugh 😂
What a treasure trove! Thank you!
This is the type of video I live for
mannnnnnnnn here we goooooo
That Tembo scene would’ve been so badass. He’s such a great character
Oh man! I'm so excited to watch this!!! 🦖 🦕❤
I love the long videos!
I’m here for this!!!
Definitely needed that scene. Holy cow.
Roland's line < I didn't go there to die, I did it to be alive > became one of the best quote I ever heard in my life. I watched the movie as a kid when it came out, it took me several years to understand its meaning and its context, but I find it very beautiful and meaningful.
This is interesting man
Having Ricardo Delgado sharing such info on JP3 is so cool!! Always admired his work ever since Age of Reptiles. Funnily enough he would eventually make his own Spinosaurus-centric story, taking cues for Yojimbo, though the dead spinosaurus offspring wasn't included. Still, there is enough of a blank in the movie to include all reasons behind Spinosaurus' persistence besides the Peter Pan crocodile homage.
Boy oh boy.
Here we go.
I always have wanted to see the T-rex river scene, man that would have been amazing. How horrifying would it be to be floating down a river... and bein' like, oh that rex can't swim.. turns out it can. Oh shit that would be horrifying.
46:21 yup, loudest indeed.
Had the volume up and that sound made me jump. Well played.
What's funny about the idea of the tex vs the military on base, it would still cause a lot of damage and probably kill multiple people before a sufficient response could be mustered up. Typically, the only people on base are MPs, Master at Arms for the navy, and they usually carry only small arms, nothing big enough to take down the rex. By the time something big enough to get the rex was pulled out, especially after a comms delay and treading in info, the rex may have done his/her thing and left the base already. However, it wouldn't get very far as the military would obviously pursue and eliminate it.
Very Great
If they did a Jurassic park remake that was more loyal to the books and given a more horror aspect to it I think it would be amazing! Like you could easily give the raptor scenes the same feeling from the Alien franchise.
Would you do a video looking at the alternate story’s from the games? I’ve always wondered about the story in the most world PlayStation game. It’s almost like it’s it’s own story.
Why are some people so obsessed with having the Rex kill the Spino? It's been 20 years and people are literally making petitions to try and get this to happen. Like I get it, nobody wanted to see the Rex get beaten and in a scientifically accurate scenario the Rex would win 99 times out of 100. But there's enough room in the franchise for more than one big bad dinosaur. Rexy already fought and won against two other big bad dinos, you wanna watch it again for a third time?
My problem is that people seem to think the Spino absolutely destroyed the Rex. It didn't. Spino got lucky because the Rex left itself open after that headbutt, that's the only reason it was able to go for the neck snap. Otherwise, Rex was kicking ass. But I always see these people who get obsessed over fights between movie monsters/characters as religious as football fans, which is kinda crazy. I feel like any normal person would be like, "Oh shit...well then." And then proceed to just watch the rest of the movie. Anybody punching air over this fight, especially today, is just a child.
@@monstersandmachines There's just a lot of cope around that fight. Like how people are saying it was a small juvenile Rex even though the animatronic was literally the Buck Rex just with a new coat of paint.
@@HapnoteWell actually that little tidbit comes from something the people behind the movie tried putting out there a while back. I think Klayton here did a video on the subject, I'd suggest watching that for the better details since my memory on it is fuzzy, but I guess sometime after JP3 left theaters and started hitting homes via DVD and VHS, there was something said officially that it was a younger rex, maybe like in some bonus features or something. Everyone saw through that, though, especially once it was found out that the animatronic is just Buck repainted. It was a poor attempt to quell the fan outrage, but some fans still hold onto it as gospel...even though it's been disproven. Kinda like flat Earth theory.
@@monstersandmachines Yes I know. My point was that people still choose to believe it, even though it was literally just Universal spoon-feeding copium to angry Rex fans.
You must have not seen the original JP when it came out if you don’t understand the love for the Rex
W like usual
Was there ever any lore about the rest of "The 5 Deaths"? We know Nublar and Sorna, but what are the others called? Were they going to be used for anything?
I’ve done a few videos on them. They’re called Las Cinco Muertes : Sorna, Peña, Muerta, Tacaño and Matanceros. Nublar isn’t actually apart of the chain. The 5 Deaths are named after ways the natives died years before InGen showed up.
i like these long videos
The best way they could make a movie that pits dinos vs military is to make a movie set between jp2 and 3, make some kind of plot point that requires retrieval of something from the original parks security complex in the visitor center. Use a small team and give it the feel of a metal gear solid/resident evil/dino crisis and most importantly, make it a true horror film.
Imo the military vs dinosaurs idea getting axed was a good idea for the reasons you listed. Like there's always a point where fiction and truth balance and it's a fine line
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BOOK SPOILERS BELOW BTW
I don't know if you mentioned it before this clip played but the scene with the rex taking ludlow back to the nest is a slight variation of a scene from the end of the second book.
Sarah kicks Dodgson out from underneath a Jeep where Daddy rex picks him up and takes him to the nest where the following in the clip takes place, the stuff with the gun, the hunt, etc is not from the book however.
I feel like the military vs dinosaurs would only really work with either a large pack of something smart or one of the hybrids from the world movies. While the Dino’s can be scary, they aren’t monsters, and bullets will work on them, especially explosives such as grenades or rockets
I love this i have the books my mom bought me then when I was 22/23 and it’s been 4 years later and I’m still on page 70ish right when they got to the island I need to read them this winter cause I wish the movies were exactly like the book R rated I would love that ( i haven’t read a box since I was 18 in high school) but I bought another book from micheal called the timeline and it seems like it’ll be very good people said it was more intense or something then Jurassic park
Having a pack of raptors take down the spinosaurus in JP 3 would have been a nice symmetry to the t-rex taking down the raptors in Jurassic Park. The idea that they were stalking the humans the entire time for their eggs is a frightening call back to Grant saying: that's when the attack comes, not from the front, but from the side, from the other two raptors you didn't even know were there.
So in my mind Grant would have left the eggs behind as the raptors attacked the spinosaurus but as he's doing so one of the raptors, the mother, turns, sees him, goes to pursue him, maybe gets too close, but notices her eggs and takes them instead of attacking Grant and the others. The rest of the scene would transition similar to the original ending. In the morning Grant and the Kirbys would hear someone with a megaphone shouting their names and they run yelling: That's a very bad idea! The rest of the story plays out as the original ending completely. That would have been better in my opinion and it would have only added a few more minutes to the final film which is actually short by comparison.