Pascal's Wager & Fear of Hell | Mike - Wadena, MN | Atheist Experience 21.20
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- The Atheist Experience 21.20 for May 21, 2017 with Matt Dillahunty, Tracie Harris, and Chris Johnson.
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Thanks to the atheist community and the responses. Thanks to you guys, I’m starting to feel liberated from my lifelong fears of God and hell.
Given the choice between heaven and hell? I choose Oblivion.
Christianity: fear God until you love Jesus
Good one
There was a mountain climber that climbed K2. Someone asked him what he would do if there was an avalanche. He said "If it happens, it happens." That's kinda how I feel about hell. If there's a douchebag God that sends me there, there's nothing I can do about it so if it happens, it happens.
I think fear of hell is really unresolved childhood fear of being punished. My dad was cruel to me, physically abused me even. He was a man of his word though. If he promised a beating/punishment then he’d deliver. Now, when I think of Hell, the scary bit about it is the fear that it’s inevitable. Like with my dad, he would deliver on his punishment. So when I fear hell, it’s really tapping into those emotions.
I was actually going to make Tracie’s comment when I started watching the video. Christians (and others) are so traumatized by fear of hell that it’s hard for them to reason their way out. They’re victims of massive, systematic spiritual abuse.
Pascal's Wager is actually an insult to God (if there is one) as it implies God is an unjust, unfair, cruel, unkind, irrational, thoughtless, and savage dictator that punishes those who didn't believe based on bad evidence (faith).
The "which Hell worries you" made me curious. Many non-Christian religions DO have hells. Islam, Norse, Egyptian, Roman, Greek. But I didn't know about one of the current Biggies. Hinduism. So I googled it....
Naraka (Sanskrit: नरक) is the Hindu equivalent of Hell, where sinners are tormented after death. It is also the abode of Yama, the god of Death. It is described as located in the south of the universe and beneath the earth.
-- wikipedia (Wye-kee Peh-DYE-a)
Beneath the earth? Lol. Like literally?
"south of the universe"
@@ilonachan 2 layers of odd. Southern region within the universe.
Or exit the universe...in a southerly direction.
Why are all these gods always NO-SHOWS? A one-true-god would certainly gain millions or even billions of followers if he revealed itself for all to see and hear. Why do these gods hide?
Because they are made up
Pascal’s wager conversions are bogus anyway. A all knowing all powerful god would see right through that
Christians believe that Jesus is better than God because he wants to save us from God's wrath.
Plus, he's half human, so like Spock, he understands our needs.
tedgrant2 Well the thing is spock is apart of a fascist space regime, so I guess they are similar XD
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Good point.
Suppose I am a preacher and you think I am making a lot of money by lying to small children.
If I am not lying, I will be rewarded in Heaven and you will be punished in Hell.
If I am lying, I will not be punished in Hell, but I will still live a comfortable life.
So my best strategy is to continue lying to small children.
Answer this one question.. Please.. "If god exists yet he cannot protect children from being sexually abused in his own place of worship then what good is he?"
THE HELL DON'T WORRIES THEM???????????????
Jokes on god
ILL BRING MY ALOE VERA!
I’d rather have an eternity of torment where I keep my dignity.
“a good person who lives a good life can get into any heaven worth getting into” - some lady
Q-if someone says (acknowledging what is above) you cannot get in if you don’t believe, A- then it’s not worth getting into
~ You go to heaven for the climate, and go to hell for the company- Mark Twain
Me: Your god is all loving?
Them: Yes
Me: And you're worried about the place it'll send you to if you don't believe in it?
Them: Yes
Me: Wouldn't an evil God's "hell" be worse than your all loving god's hell?
Them: That makes sense.
Me: So this means you have to start worshiping the worst god out there, right?
Them: ....uh oh
As I stated in my forthcoming book "The Conscience of An Agnostic", if there is a God He has a very unusual sense of humor. By the way, are there any literary agents out there? I certainly could use one.
Tracy's answer was pure gold she's so good at dealing with people and that actually cutting through the b******* I love Matt but he can sound a little smug sometimes in the intellectually Superior for godline I don't think really has that much of an effect on people when they're scared of hell
This pascals wager shit is what I went through before I finally thought about it some more and realized there's a lot of other religions. I gave it all up in one second and decided I am an atheist.
Anyone else get an ad for PureFlix before this?
Amy D
Me -_-
~ Yes, and I initially expressed revulsion. Now I have no problem with TAE getting ad revenue from these purefliux nutjobs. So many white folks making money from religious I mean gullible people. They are not going away any time soon, so TAE at least is getting some of that sucker money! ~
if you are born in india, you are hindu, in saudi arabia, a muslim. your religion is like your culture, it depends on where you are born?
its a gambit.
As a life-long, never indoctrinated in any religious theology, My first question would always be: who told you that stuff and why did you buy into it?
The hosts never do, most are former theists, and once the damage is done, all are forever scared and tainted.
I know how it was done in the overwhelming cases, of course. Great effort are expended to get 'em as young as possible, long before kids have any real experience in the outside world, nor developed the natural, very nessessary skepticism to protect themselves from such scams.
"Behold, I will corrupt your seed and spread dung upon your faces" (Malachi 2:3)
That explains why my wife doesn't like me.
Thank God there probably is no hell I mean people die horrible deaths how can there be a hell this life is hell
What do you think of anti Christianity I think it's just like Islam afobia
God doesn't know what you believe and he is not a peeping Tom.
He is very polite and wouldn't dream of invading your privacy.
Those who think he spies on you, underestimate God. He's better than that.
They like to think he will punish you. They are lying. He's really nice. He wouldnt hurt a fly.
Youre kidding right???
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We are all cremated equal.
How do you know this?
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Revelation.
tedgrant2 revelation is just ramblings of a bronze age religious zealot...nothing more.
Second comment! OOOOH BEAT YOU ALL. DaBs
Matt says "... not accepting it because there wasn't sufficient evidence...". Matt lives his life as he chooses, making up his own purpose and own morality and anyone who argues for God is a threat to that freedom. As long as he controls the judgment, there will never be sufficient evidence.
Arguing for a god doesn't threaten that freedom at all. Even if someone could demonstrate the existence of some god and Matt accepted it, Matt still has the freedom to evaluate that god's ideas and morals and agree or disagree with any of it. He isn't bound by whatever that god declares to be. But first the god claim must be sufficient to justify the claim that the god exists, and so far they don't get even remotely close.