Assassin's Creed Hidden Blades - you're doing it WRONG
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- čas přidán 14. 09. 2022
- The hidden blades from Assassin's Creed have always had flaws when recreated in real life. This is my attempt to fix this iconic element of Assassin's Creed, and it's right on time with the release of the new teasers for Assassin's Creed Mirage, Codename Red, Codename Jade, Codename Hexe!!
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A very genuine thank you to Protolabs for making this build possible! I've wanted to do this for a very long time and with their help It's now becoming reality!! It's definitely worth checking out their site, protolabs.com. They are leveling the playing field for makers!
i almost feels weird to see a project not fail on first attempt, I hope its the first of many. fingers are crossed !
I am serious about having a custom arm blade, but something a little less assasin more large
I want to make hidden blade for a long time i just didn't know when to start honestly
Would you have Protolabs make the Mantisblades back when you had so much trubble with it?
Thank you for sharing this project video with us. Comparing with others project this lookes promising to become an amazing assassins blade crafted by Leonardo da Vinci like in the assassins creed 2 but little bit modern when using a compressed air for its mechanism hoping to see more of this project in the future and more others too. To be Frank this is my first time see your channel it already hit the subscribe button. Thank you again.
BTW, the concept arts from ACII showed that hidden blade was using scissor spring to extend/retract. Which s still flimsy, but IMO better than double action knife.
The trick with the OTF system is it needs to be made without the safety. An OTF without that will stab into whatever its sharpness will allow.
The scissor spring system has far too many moving parts, especially given the bloody nature of its use, though let's be honest, that blood is going to fuck up a lot of systems...
Sans safety, I think the OTF system is far better for this purpose. The only thing I'd change is stronger springs for faster action(though I admit that's going to be tough to level, especially with my next bit) and some kind of return springs to automatically retract the blade when your hand relaxes.
@@thatcrazybstrd167 Scissor spring is the way to make the blade long enough, since it consists of two parts - blade and an extending insert. And, to be fair, hidden blade doesn't even need to be tough in the first place, since it's purpose is to stab unprotected victim or vulnerable spot. It also doesn't have to be strong to pierce through fles on way out. What you need is some stops to lock it in place upon extraction and which will bear the stress of thrusting motion instead of the spring.
@@shadyone6620 but the OTF system HAS that strength. The safety was only added in case of accidental deployment so you don't stab yourself if it deploys in your pocket.
The length IS a problem, one that I don't have a legitimate solution to. I've been brainstorming but don't have anything concrete. But how much blade is really needed? Sure, the 12-ish inch blade is flashy and badass, but 4-6 inches seems more than sufficient to pierce something vital.(lol penis joke)
But then there's also the biggest problem both systems face in that there's not a lot of distance in extending the hand from relaxed, even mostly extended, to where the blade should deploy. OTF seems better in this regard because it has a breakpoint that can be approached without partially extending the blade.
@@shadyone6620 yeah, and also iirc, AC1- 4 uses ISU steel so it is strong, but from Unity onwards the steel assassin uses is downgraded
@@shadyone6620 I just had a thought.
Why not both? OTF system on the first section with a mechanism to deploy the second using the scissor spring. That would allow for the limited breakpoint to deploy and allow for the proper length.
The scissor spring system being entirely contained within the first blade segment sounds like an engineering nightmare but I think it could be done, especially with modern techniques.
Can't wait to see this finished build! It's always fun to see a fresh new design on an old project that has been done hundreds of times!
Especially because eventually they'll make a lore accurate version. Like a real hidden blade
I like when they do it so good that it could ACTUALLY be used in combat… never thought someone would actually make a decent hidden blade
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@James Mayle no one cares. god isn't real
the funny thing about all the build people have made is that we know canonically how the hidden blade works, were shown a diagram in AC2.
It still uses the string and wheel with a pin. but uses a scissor arm attached to the wheel on one end and the blade on the other.
Now, this may not actually work in real world practice, but the fact that no one has ever tried it is really funny to me
Someone needs to make this work asap
There was a prototyping video on CZcams a few years ago
I don't remember who it was, but this was actually done and it did work, but the huge flaw with the design was that the scissor arm had to be too big to actually fit inside the housing and has fairly obvious that it was there because of this. When the arm was coiled it was extremely wide on the forearm. Imagine one of those extending boxing glove toys and you can see the problem. There may have been other iterations since then, but this is the only one that I remember ever seeing.
Here is the video you was seeking for:
czcams.com/video/mWgMZxQRuGw/video.html
@@pedrosabino8751 can't belive that was real, i thought it was gonna be that spam videos
I was skeptical hearing it would be via compressed air but now I am convinced this is THE best retractable blade thus far. Now to see how she functions and if anything needs upgrading or not.
Until you accidentally chop your ring finger off
czcams.com/video/mWgMZxQRuGw/video.html
Conner’s hidden blade-handheld knife was my favorite out of the entire series
AC3 was so slept on especially because of the tomahawk and rope darts I miss them 😩
@@chrismusiclover9893 two amazing tools to play around with
Same that hidden blade was the best one because you can use it defensively and offensively and a lot of nice experts say that it would be better to just hold it and Connors design give you the best of both worlds
@@BonzerMrT indeed
I reckon' I'm inclined to agree with that for two reasons, 1. I'm mostly Native American and Irish, and I'm biased towards AC3 for that reason regardless, but you are certainly correct that Connor's hidden blade is definitely the best out of all of them... but even though I'm a few months late with this comment, for anyone who has the remastered version of AC3 - Y'all do realize that version has extra content beyond just the DLC's, right? For PS4 it's the square button on the menu screen to access the extra content photo gallery and in those photos, I reckon' there's literally a blueprint esc picture of Connor's hidden blade design
That is amazing, can't believe how smooth it works. I also really liked how kind of care free and punchy this particular video was.
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If anyone's interested the most accurate hidden blades were designed by a guy here on yt named indeepainreborn
He has more than 15 different designs and the most accurate ones operate exactly like the games and are fully mechanical
But this video is a very unique take on the blade
Looks very effective and is quite welcome
Look up hidden blade heks
1:58 the reason they do that « muscle spasm » is because in the game the blade is activated by the contraction of a certain muscle which is done by doing the movement, but the older models did use a string to make the blade come out which once again was activated by that flick of the wrist (but you knew that already)
Just thought i’d give some insight on the matter
Old models like Bayek’s to Aliär’s used muscles to open that you could open at any hand position but everyone was trained to open it and use with the hand out to avoid a severed finger, then it became traditional and practical so everyone still uses it like that, mostly all assassins used non-beaked hoods. The only games where the robes were useful for truly blending in are, ac1, rouge, syndicate, unity, and origins, I don’t count The newest games already out as ac. The only game you play as a Templar is rouge and the first chapter or 2 of 3.
Just wanted to add some trivia
@@timothylarue9550 the robes we're meant more for hiding their identity in public places
@@timothylarue9550 Well for Bayek's they did add a string after he accidentally severed his finger
In the books Davinci made a model later on that didn’t require severing the finger.
@@Studio_234 which is false. It was all Altaïr.
Next up is the double extension for the blade. It's not covered much in DYI projects, but most of the hidden blades you see in the franchise (or at least Ezio's trilogy) actually have double extension
Just Ezio has the double extension
@@David-nq8cv also hollow to administer poison.
imdeepainreborn made some pretty realistic extending hidden blades. Look him up on CZcams.
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@@jamesmayle3787 bro stop preaching, i can get that from the church service
man, i've got to say as an all time Assassins creed fan since a child, I've wanted a assassin blade that was as close to the real thing as possible and it's been fascinating watching people make mediocre or kinda rip off blades. But You're making the real thing, its really beautiful. i need one.
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Nice man! Good to see a new take on the hidden blade, and looking forward to you testing it to show how effective it can be. Hope your doing well too, you getting close to 500k subs too!
This brought back fond memories of trying to make a hidden blade in my youth, I made mine from my dad's aluminium beer cans. It took me a very long time until I made a version that wasn't so flimsy the extension would cause it to disassemble. The final version used the scissor spring that would retract and extend with somewhat decent force, but I had to build in a little handle you'd have to wind up every 5 full extension and retractions because I couldn't think of another way to add energy to the secondary spring without using gravity to retract the blade each time.
It wasn't a practical hidden blade but if I did use it for some assassinations I'm guessing Carling wouldn't have been too happy since their logo was plastered all over it, I didn't even have a real blade it was just folded aluminium beer can sheets that I cold hammered into a blade like shape
I have always felt like that in the games the Assassins tend to fully extend the blade, then stab, then retract it as they pull it from the target’s body.
True but it did slice bayek finger clean off
@@zacharyjames6588 because he couldn't get his hand open since the guy was trying to fucking drown him lol (I'd have done the same thing if it was my life or another guys)
@@chrismusiclover9893 yes lol. I was just saying that the force of the blade was strong enough that you woudnt even need to add additional force.
Pretty sure Ezio slowly extends it in one scene to kill some guy (Ages ago that I played it)
not always
wow it came out so good, i think having a custom gas tank to fit stealthily with the assassin's glove would be nice, eventhough it's gonna have lesser amount of gas but you won't have to hook up longer tube
To be fair, doing the job right, it only has to work once.
I always figured people didn't do it this way because in the assassin's creed times there wouldn't have been compressed air. But then, pretty sure with their technology it would be impossible either way, so may as well make it look cool and work well
You solve hidden blade problems by creating more problems. so now The Assassin move around with limited air tube in their back. interesting
I can already see Altair using his soldering iron on one of his hidden blades.
10 psi of CO² and a new seal, hardware done. Just the electronics to control it all. Looking forward to the next one! Great work so far
Amazing project taken to the next level! Can't wait to see it finished
I'm so happy for you that it worked 1st go. As much as I love watching you problem solve, your smile at 8:52 was a joy to see. Looking forward to more :D
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Now make one that could be made with the simple technology that existed pulleys cogs string
Very impressive, the guys at CNC are great operators and you're a good designer👍🏻
I think I'd go with a hybrid approach, where the OTF mech is driven by gas pressure, but still has conventional locks just in case it has pressure failure in one state or the other.
He was talking about magnet locks.
They'd have to be neodymium magnets so they can withstand the pressure of stabbing someone.
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Love it. However the disadvantage with gas pressured driven blades is that 1000 years ago, a pressure tank was pretty hard to come by.
But things like the manual spring and pully mechanisms Dont require any kind of reloading or mechanism that you couldn't make back then.
i like the justice you are giving for the hidden blade function
...on thing though..the one you mentioned about the muscle flex for the blade to come out...it is also a safety... so that your hand wont get in the way when the blade comes out..
Is there anything this guy can’t make , he is amazing, can’t wait to see what is next
Great job on the design and results, looking forward to the next video!
the single blade is easy to make, especially when its manual sheathing.
the complex or impossible one is the extended hidden blade, because you would somehow need to include a double action to the sheath on your arm and one to the blade extension!
now that, that is what no ones been able to crack.
"Manual sheathing" like pushing the blade back in?
I just came across ur channel but I'm glade I did, I like the first four assassin's Creed games, maybe try making the hok blade
are you going to use air actuated locks to hold the blade in place? might be worth exploring if you're using air as your method for extending and contracting the blade
if you want to limit the speed without having to do it with pressure (if you keep the pressure up you can keep the force it extends with high) you can buy flow controls, companies like SMC make airline fittings with flow controls in them. They've got a knob that pulls out and then you twist it either way depending on whether you want more or less flow. I assume it's something akin to a needle valve inside them, then once you've got it set you push the knob back in and it holds the "setting".
Best one I’ve ever seen! Really simple as well!
I have concerns. If its extended outwards what is holding it there? because if you have to stab through something with a little more resistance wont the blade just be pushed back in?
This is just insane! Amazing work!
Other than the clanking sound it make when it fully extended, this is definitely the ideal hidden blade.
This is gonna be sooo good I can feel it already Jairus!
Dude …. That was rad!! ✌️❤️ nice work, as always.
thats really cool, instead of tubes id make an extra plate with channels cut into it to transfer air, id want the two inlets at the back going up the sleeve so you could control it with a co2 cartridge up the sleeve, to control it you could throw in some electronics to open and close the valve, perhaps have wireless buttons hidden in your shoe
Only issue I can think of is that a shiny piece of metal reflecting light into the eyes of the guy behind you kinda gives away that you have a piece of metal on your arm
looks cool, though
Awesome video ive always wanted a set of these
Dude makes a cool hidden blade and doesn’t show him using it?!
Still subscribed. I love this side of CZcams. The garage inventors. It’s just so fun. They don’t even have to be good like this one was; the process is always thrilling.
Dude I'm wrapped for you they came out beautifully.cant wait to see what's next
This is by far the best takes on Hidden Blade I've ever seen. Most videos that I've watched, all Hidden Blade were using the usual finger string mechanism but this... This is the most accurate one.💯👌🏼
Technically speaking, finger string ones are more accurate as thats how the design from the game is Actually laid out, AC2, look it up/google it "Hidden blade design AC2"
When I was in elementary school I fell in love with the Brotherhood and Revalations games, I didn't have tools or anything to make a hidden blade so I used a Pez dispencer, chipwoods, and tape to make one. I had to push the chipwood blade back in but the blade would extend out if I put the force of a punch behind my arm
You Nailed it, ive been thinking of this for so long a real blade that works and here we have it.
Damn I came across this in my recommended feed and I was hoping that it was going to be the whole build just quick I hope to see this finished soon
did you consider the very first conceptial design for the hiddenblade using a levering XXXXXX that will expand and contract using only 1 spring at the bottom? it wouldnt stop as you activate it with your hand. would also be silent
That last "Ok" just killed me
this is so cool, I've seen most of all the other assassin's creed blade videos on youtube and this is one that is truly unique and high quality. Super sick
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Please read Genesis Mathew and one book you chose yourself to understand. It’s in the inner work Jesus Christ taught that reveal the Bible as truth. Start by forgiving your parents. It’s an important step in adulthood. They’re people too, they’ve loved you. Genuinely clean out that inner gunk there. Acts like this are how we show our faith. It isn’t belief alone, it’s actions based on belief. Genuinely taking Jesus Christ’s lessons to heart are the key. Please break down before him and ask for forgiveness
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@@jamesmayle3787 maybe all the gospels too not just Mathew. I like Romans and Psalms personally but it's all the truth so anything you read won't do any harm.
@@simony5807 I had a dream that told me genesis Mathew and one book of personal choice is a secret effort mark God uses. That’s why I tell people. But yes, all are excellent. Mine favorite is James. Packed full of great information.
I’m assuming there is/will be a mechanism to lock it in the extended position, very cool
I think he's using the stored compressed air locked between the seals to hold the blade in place once it's out. Compressed air should actually be able hold the blade in place MUCH better than a spring mechanism and it's very hard to push back on even 5 psi of compressed air if it's isolated within the seals nicely.
I saw someone that made a hidden blade using a gear system and it was pretty damn powerful. He also was working on a pressure plate system to to extend and retract the blade, but idk if he ever managed to get that concept to work or not
Very cool. I think the hidden blade is one of the coolest weapons and to see a modern version of it is awesome. Good job, defenetly earned my sub and a like.
i don't work with compressed air much, but if you hook up a solenoid valve to each pipe, won't there be a problem with back pressure? (i.e after the blade is extended, trying to push the blade back in won't work because of the air in the rear chamber can't escape through the valve) meaning you need some way to vent the side that not active, also, obviously this is a beautiful show peice that functions, but if you intend to stab anything, is there enough back pressure to keep the blade out instead of just being pushed back in?
It needs a clockwork mechanism not pressured air. Two wound coil springs are what’s needed.
Wooow ita super i need to see more advance version soon as soon possible ❤️❤️❤️condrag bro
In Assassins Creed 2, you can actually see the hidden blades mechanism in one of the codex pages, ive never seen anyone made it with the same design, so you should check it out and try it! if you have the time of course hehe
Sounds like an awesome idea
Reminds me of a portable cattle gun.. like from 'no country for old men'. Gotta point this out.. if the unit was cylinder shaped it could be much smaller and use air pressure more efficiently. It would work much like a tiny piston in an engine but with a blade on the end. Your build is awesome though with a huge hidden blade!!
Aww ye another project! This looks promising, and the one I'm most excited for since the Broadsider!
This looks absolutely amazing! I'm wondering if there's a way to include a safety mechanism so that you can't stab yourself in the palm
dude you literally uploaded this as soon as i started designing my OTF one 😭
To be 💯 honest out of all of thw blades I've seen built yours looks the best, sturdy, well balanced, good withdraw, and good push, thw blade looks to hold well when out, so in my opinion, all together a great build, would love to test further hidden blade builds
Incredible, I might go work for protolabs, seems fun.
Did you ever finish those mantis blades? 🤣
the most memorable moment of the character putting their hand against the target, and then pushing the blade out, is probably haytham kenway’s first assassination in ac3. his hidden blade went through a chair, and his victim’s back, so the point about the blade being blocked is totally valid
Love the modern outlook on this, I’ve done my own full metal rack and pinion(r.p) hidden blade and it never had the ‘pop’. I had this idea but you’ve beaten me to the punch haha! There was an older youtuber I remember in 2013 who used a completely different method other than the r.p it was like a scissor lift design(dont know any other way to describe) it had the flick though thats forsure could puncture on impacts. Apples and watermelon in the video just wasnt dual action. Based off the in game schematics he had diagrams but the prntscrns have probably long expired 😢
a very underrated channel
How will the blade stay extracted? Will the air presure hold it in place? But for how long, it must be losing pressure at some point right?
Only the older blade designs (at least the AC1 HB did ) used the ring and string method. Altair modified the design later in his life to not only remove the need to cut off the ring finger, but also used a pressure switch for extending and retracting the blade.
Not sure on the most of the newer designs, but the Auditore's blades have an extension to the normal blade, which increases it's length even further while making it more compact than older models.
How does the blade lock in place when extended? Just the air pressure? Will that be enough for stabby stabby?
Ezio be like: ''Oh merda! Ho finito l'aria pressurizzata!''
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This will make an awesome addition to my vulture armor
That joke at the very end is legendary
This is amazing!
thats amazing bro, i really want to try that
The compressed oxygen is an interesting idea for a more modern style, but how do you think a high power spring would work instead?
Wow so impressive... You really showed some major skill and geniiuuuussss craftsmanship, with modern technology. Really, quite the big brain you are.
in all fairness, the original concept is: stealthly extend the blade, stab with the blade locked, stealthly retract the blade. Using the spring force to stab is an artistic liberty used in specific "cool" action sequences after the second game, which eventually got more common over time. But the original idea is still the main, mandatory rule. So, it's basically a spring loaded wrist dagger.
Look into the electric airsoft pistols (the ones that use a small motor to generate the air pressure to shoot). I don't know the pressure they shoot at but might be enough to push/pull the blade.
The fact that they had 3D printers thousands of years ago amazes me
I want to see someone make the wrist crossbow next. Is it even possible to have it fold out and be under tension ready to fire?
I am for this. This is legitimately exciting to see 👀 🗡
Nice work dude
This could not have come at a better time I just got back into my hidden blade phase XD
I redesigned mine to be thinner and without the use of the wheel I hate so much and its still dual action
Are you going to try and add a lock or just rely on the cushion of air to resist stabby stabby forces?
Hey what program did you use to make the digital copy of the knife
What materials on protolabs did you use for this?
What a sick build!!!
Is there anyway to make this hidden blade without the bag
I was literally searching everywhere for a real one of these
Love your content
that's a very noice work, but what if it runs out of co2? i know it can be reffiled assassination needs a weapon that doesnt run out of something that powers the device
Where did you find this codex page?
Was wondering if you could make some of your friends us this as a practice course where they have to implement the hidden blade, with the heads being watermelons
Does anyone have, or know of a full explanation on how the spring coil system works. I'm trying to replicate it for a project, but I can't find a super clear explanation to view
But now the blade needs 2 different compressed capsules one for puling it out and one to pul it back and to be able to besicaly replace the caosules like gun magazines i mean it's amazing but u also need the trigger for that compressed aer to activate but i like the idea and all it's cool
"Brothers, has everyone their compressed air tanks filled and ready? We don't want to repeat last night blunder. I'm looking at you, Brother Ferguson?"
Is it posibble to use these airsoft co2 cartriges to power it or is it a no go?
Did, what you used, exist in the time frames of the books and games? If not are there some kind of idea of how could it be possible?
only part i'd ad is an indent at the end of the blade with a spring to soften the inpact and thus lessen wear/tear's abilety to make it more noysy
ok but how will you get the air pressure can't exactly walk around with a compressed air tank on you that's not exactly stealthy or subtle