Age of Empires 4 - The Lamest Strategy EVER!
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- čas přidán 21. 11. 2021
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would like to see more lower level matches but love the content
I'm glad to see starcraft 2 pros trying out this game. The skill level of matches and competition will level up significantly with RTS players from other games coming in. I don't think it will be like AoE2 where The Viper just dominated everyone. Western sc2 pros had to go up against Koreans which the AoE pros never had to face lol.
Definitely! I am very curious how AoE4 will turn out as well with the amount of left over apm most starcraft players will have
AoE is a joke. boring as fuck and shitty unbalanced gamae
For the "lamest" strategy you were really excited about this match xD
Kinda his job to be excited 😂
Love all your content, but would like to get some more commentary on the immediate openings for each player opposed to discussing the map layout. Also some periodic comparisons of the villager count would be nice.
Keep up the good work, thanks for the vids.
You can't target that many springals onto a single unit, you're wasting around 8 shots when they could be used to bring down another 2-3 units with the same volley.
This springald dance reminds me of watching swarm host ZvZs in SC2 lol
I feel like the overlay is a bit big but i like having it there.
Love the overlay, especially showing map & rank but my old man eyes could do with a little larger font... I am really trying to get familiar with the maps. Speaking of maps... I absolutely love the way you always talk about the map and the general strategy for it as well as the meta, I find this a lot more helpful than how to advance in the first 5 minutes... as that is pretty easy to do with a simple build order video.
I understand most of what Drongo says, but now if I can just figure out what he means when he talks about "piss ahmah". I also love the way Aussies sneeze... we say "achoo" and he keeps saying "ahcha" all the time, hopefully his allergies clear up.
PS: much love from America!, you are a beast of a player and a beast of a caster!
It’s pierce armor, or in another word ranged armor
You have amazing constant energy, great for commentating keep it up!, updated civ teirlist would be pog btw
I'm surprised red didnt try to take the top and bottom sites to split blue up
But i guess there're other considerations like blue had mass knights which can assist on both points very quickly while his units are certainly gonna die taking those 2 top and bottom
Would've split up the springalds half and half to top and bottom tho
Rus could have also just pushed through the middle into the Chinese economy if they split up their army
I'd love to see a build order for both/either of these players this match, really enjoyed what both sides were doing!
Beyond the springald spam that ensues, of course. x3 The medieval tanks!
Nice counter to the mass springs but they WILL definitely get nerfed in the upcoming patch. What a misplay from Demuslim for not going to imperial to get bombards to counter the springs and army of serral, built 3 trebs to counter one keep for whatever reason, and even screwed himself for building a choke point gate on his own side.
Good pressure on Serral for pushing the 3 sites considering how passive defensive his opponent was with giving away map control and countering the mass springs with a nice balance of army and springs in the mix.
Yeah we watched it aswell
ay, I like your casting, it would help me if the player names were in the titles tho, I'm from sc2 and I would've clicked 10000x faster if I knew that this was a serral match
Don't listen to the haters bro.. you go ahead and say cognizant as much as you damn well want!
Chinese springvalds, their speed and dust behind their tracks mechanic reminds me of scorpions or quad cannons from C&C Generals
Trebuchets are just stupidly bad because:
1/ 500 woods and 250 gold is a steep cost for a unit that can only hit buildings (and not even doing a good job at that)
2/ Villagers repair building so fast that 1-2 trebuchets can barely do any damage.
To see such an iconic building-destroyer like that is heartbreaking. I think Trebuchets should also inflict a unique debuff that reduce targeted building's repair speed by 50% (adjustable figure) at least.
Love the debuff idea :)
Drongo, Amazing video as usual. I request though could you talk more on the openings of the players a bit more? I find these commentary videos better for learning than watching individual players some times.
Cognizant and Aware do not mean the same and I prefer your use of "cognizant" in most situations. A sniper focusing on his target or a predator, such as a tiger stalking its prey, might be in a heightened state of awareness, but it is more a lucid type of awareness than a cognitive type of awareness. Playing a strategic game such as chess or age of empires requires a more mental or cognitive type of awareness involving strategic knowledge, in other words: Cognizance.
So next time someone tells you to use the word awareness instead, please just tell them to go back to their First Person Shooters and leave you to casting Real Time Strategy, because you are doing it perfectly :)
No need to over think it. They are synonyms. They can be used interchangeably for most situations.
Nah. I'd say they're synonyms. There really isn't this distinction in normal usage. I don't mind if he uses cognizant, I don't notice any problems. But, there's no need to confuse him more with nitpicky distinctions that don't really matter haha :p
You find way too much pride in your vocabulary friend. GGs only.
The push out with the walls was so sick to watch, I fort he was going to turtle across the map
Yeah that was awesome. All the tentative rushing then pulling back to test lines as the walls crept up. Really fun to watch these games.
He could keep putting wall on the south of his fortification and he could put springalds right next to site behind the wall. just needed a gate and 1 more wall horizontal next to stone.
Enjoyed the cast. Looking forward to more.
As for the overlay, the map and player information is definitely a nice addition. May I suggest using a wider Field-of-View ? That's more of a personal preference though I suppose.
@ClutchTillDawn I may be mistaken, but a simple scrolling out would be the fix , wouldn't it? I believe I have noted other casters using wider FOVs.
Hey drongo would love to see a tier list for pop cap efficient units
I'll be honest, when I heard you talking about someone saying you could say cognizant less, I assumed you were about to say "So, you guys can probably expect me to say cognizant a lot more now."
Same!
23:17 when the vil joins the charge lol
it would be cool to be able to also see resources per min (just maybe record that small section and edit it in below the totals you already show) makes it easier to understand who is ahead in econ
“That’s what she said” killed me 😂
Man that was exciting! Damn good micro.
I need profesional advice. I play rus and normally I go steltsy and knight. Is that a good rus strat or is it lacking
Sweet overlay and thank you
Na im gonna remember town centres moving faster than cavalry and camping the enemy town centre =D
Demuslim is running it down mid! I'd theorised using walls like that awesome to see it happen
He actually didn't "run it down mid", that was the problem xD
@@Smoke-un4jq he has the dream
I wasn't aware Demuslim is playing AoE now. This makes me so happy!
Springalds, springalds, springalds, it like to have some Pringles!
Surprised, with the chinese build speed that DeMusliM didnt try to drop a fort in the middle in the end.
Wow, Serral doing a transition. Interesting.
He should have went for the Sacred Site in the north while he's attempting to take the one closest to his base. That way the Rus player has to defend both of them sites and split up his armies.
That's also what I thought. Create scouts and villagers, sent them to both north and south sacred sites. Villagers then create Palisades / stone wall just to delay Rus. If Chinese villagers can also create stone towers / keep on that spot. That will distracts Rus.
But Chinese player already done mistake at the beginning. He know he against Rus, at least he can deny / steal hunts. And walled / take out the relics
That way he would also be splitting up his own forces.
@@theFirstAidKit He had no other choice on that scenario, he waited too long to go out and get map controll, the Rus player took everything out there relics and all the sacred sites.
He had only one try and at least send a few villagers to the North and secure it with building stone walls around it to buy some time and thus remove the wonder victory for the moment.
DeMuslim had the slower army. That wouldn't have worked with the army comp he chose.
Wow that was genius! Placing the keep next to the site to help hold it, slow red down, and waste MUCH more resources than blue. Great move
That was the best game ive seen so far :o
Great to see these sc2 guys again
watching the last 5 minutes was pure stress LOL didnt know who I am rooting for
What's up with the midle gate jumping up and down?
Zhong Xena did some PR for them. (In response to the sudden Chinese meta)
Need more springald towers.
Imagine if Koreans tried to main this game professionally... Oh boy...
SoonTM
These two names give me totalbiscuit casted sc2 vibes from the 2010’s
Oooohhh a ZvZ, nice! Wait, that's not SC2!
somehow I think AOE has managed to hit that balance where every strategy has its time. this is less meta and more 'play and counter play'
It wouldn't surprise me if we saw a development to mass springald counters
with my competitive RTS experience i can ensure you that hitting that "balance" won't come with that short time + not much pro players/games/tournaments, the data need to turn for at least a year to secure an "approximative" race balance, it's a very long way.
@@GhostStyle007 To be fair even in the days of SC2's early days, there were builds and strategies that everyone turned to. I believe Marine Maurauder Medivac came in decently early. that said I get that it's still in the wildlands right now but I don't recall things shifting around this fast in SC2's early days
I'll defer to your experience however. I am a spectator rather then a partaker.
springalds shouldnt be able to shoot through walls like that tbh. That would be a decent start to tone them down
Fantastic match and casting. Serral is the GOAT
Cheecky indeed. But do you know what is the topclass of this style of cheekiness? As English get longbowmen and trebs and magonels if needed. Build stone walls and stone wall towers, keeps and outposts. You can turtle and slowpush like no other.
"Its too quick ...“That’s what she said”"
Its like Terran mirror matchup
i don't understand... why don't siegers target ground on repairing villagers?
Serral Goat. You are alright my Aussie brother as well.
Wow, sick game'!!
Cognicent is the superior word!!!! Never give in!
"Lamest strategy ever" Drongo just attacked demuslim. i would like to see drongo vs demuslim in the future.
Even tho I don't like the art style of aoe4 it brind sc2, aoe2, aoe3 pros together and It's honestly amazing because I was watching all those names separately.
DemusliM is playing Stronghold
I like adding the overlay, but I think it's a bit too chunky. You could make all that space in the background empty so that you can still see more of the match, if that makes sense? Have the text fine, but get rid of the border and background etc so we see more action and less distraction to the corner of our eyes. Great otherwise man, great vids
Seems like every match involving sc2 players has them hailed as "the greatest sc2 player ever".
Well, Serrall really is by far the greatest western player and the only one from the west to win the world championship.
spring is not "ineffective vs units". They solidly counter archers just like scorps did in aoe2
Yaeh if you can micro 20 springalds to hit 40 archers in 2 swings - I think thats Drongo's point, there's so much overkill unless you micro them well and usually they cant run, but don't need to if backed up by frontliners
Scorpions also tend to do splash damage springalds are 1 target per attack
@@xat0304 overkill or not springalds will keep the archers away from the meat of your army and archers are only effective if they can get within distance. If they can't get within distance then they are countered whether they die on the field or not
@@chrisnewtownnsw springs cost much more than archers and yeah have the ranged armor but knights or horsemen are better bang for buck vsing archers early game imo, but i do recognise ur point
I feel like you need to do a podcast.
i know nest of bees isn't great but if he masses the same number of nob as his springles i think he could have wiped the cavalry coming to him
Gosh, yeah this is gonna be meta now
How are there rankings if ranked isnt out yet?
There is a hidden elo system for Quick game match making.
Its hidden ingame, but you can check your ranking online. AoE4 leaderboards, give it a search
game hasn't even been figured out yet and people are asking for nerfs?
I love the rus, but I have been having way better luck with the Dehli lately.. I just feel like when I play this meta with the rus, I get way behind on poking my enemy. I have been walled into my base a few times..
They shouldve made just WW2 game if they wanted "tanks" fighting around. It doesnt feel medieval once siege get into battle.
Hello, can any of you explain why make another town center? Thanks
It is related with economy in-game. Two town centers allow you to create more villagers efficiently, thus boosting your economy better. Plus, town center can shelter your villager in case of raid or attack by enemy. Many things could benefit from that.
2x villager production=more ressources and so on
I wonder if it's possible to have multiple people playing the same one civ? Ideally separated inputs and camera controls. Is this a thing that exists?
Not something that's in the game ATM.
@@edwardfontaine7108 yeah I'm wondering if there is a program and if it's ok to use
@@user-tj5yg5pk8v In Standard I think something like that would be heavily fround upon because it would be a super unfair advantage. Maybe a custom game option perhaps?
@@edwardfontaine7108 Imagine 3 people were all on voice comms and playing 1 civ. Vs the one person. Yes it would be incredibly powerful. You would win every tournament hypothetically.
They need to allow zooming out further.
never really noticed but sounds weird that aussies pronounce monk as monk and not as "munk" like us in blighty
dota the well known tower defense
I think this strategy was actually used by Julius ceaser
In a siege against Vercingetorix (Gaul) if I'm not mistaken
it looks like Arena Map version of AOE4
Serral on aoe 4 Oooo it's not in the title :D
what map is this
Wasnt demuslim a wc3 pro right?
love the thats what she said joke
A Finnisher game, nice!
Instead of the trebs he should have just clicked up and get bombards.
Can bombards shoot over palisades?
bombards are very easy to lose against those long range springalds though even though clocktower bombards got a ton of health. hed need to get to imp get the range upgrade and build like 3-5 bombards + some meat shield to make this work. dont think he had the time/money for that. he should have tried to force serral into defendng the other 2 sacred sites i think. or some risky genius move: build 30-40 flame lancers and try rush his base. they are enough to kill all 3/4 landmarks and serral would need a big army to defend that. but not sure if that would have worked
Seriously, where is Demuslim frontline? It's almost like he is doing a no frontline challenge while he has resources to build the army of those expensive seige units
Hey Drongo, whenever you say aware or want to say aware, just say the word cognizant because it's much more intelligent.
I liked this one tbh
that's actually not a bad strategy if better used. He began building walls out way too late.
this sringmeta is ridiculous
G'day, I just want to give a formal complain. WHY do you have to make AoE4 so goddamn fun to watch? I had no interest in the series up until I discovered your channel and I must say I've spent over 30 hours watching your content and it is destructive to my productivity. I would like to see less addictive commentating and gameplay in the future.
your new subscriber,
Me
I feel a nerf to all artillery mobility would make things a lot more interesting again
not trebs, they're so slow
Hmm. I was really hoping for an Attack on Titan reference in the comment section
CHINA NUMBA ONE :)
why go to yuan dynasty and not make mass firelancers?, would be easy gg takes 10 seconds to snipe landmarks
whats the purpose of carrying animals into his base?
To eat them and have his opponent not eat them
boar that close would be aoe 2 boar experience
why don't rus player just kill the enemy scouts sheep. they seem to put alot of effort into micro and it seems like such a obvious thing to do get he could've got 3 sheep bounties at 6mins and denied 3 sheep from his opponent to later carry back to his own mill/tc
Hi aus, instead of saying aware, just say informed. Haha, because its easier to think about it this way. His scout for example is informing him when he explores in the map so he becomes informed.
Hi aus, instead of saying informed, just say cognizant. Haha, because its easier to think about it this way. His scout for example is cognizanting him when he explores in the map so he becomes cognizant.
Hi aus, instead of saying cognizant, just say alert to. Haha, because its easier to think about it this way. His scout for example is alert to him when he explores in the map so he becomes alert.
Hi aus, instead of saying cognizant, just say aware. Haha, because its easier to think about it this way. His scout for exemple is awaring him when he explores in the map so he becomes aware.
It doesn't really matter what the hell he says, y'all know exactly what he means and is saying. You're just being pedantic for no reason
this game is fckin awsome
Give me this over football anyday...
Don't say aware/not aware - new word will be "tracking/not tracking" :)
Not lame. Talk about clickbait. But DeMuslim should have tried more to pressure multiple sacred sites simultaneously.