Is The BMW M140i The ULTIMATE Hot Hatch?
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- čas přidán 18. 09. 2020
- I take my M140i out for a Sunday blast, and discuss if this really is the ultimate hot hatch?!
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Opinions on the audio in this video? I’ve recently upgraded my mic system, so hopefully it shows! 🙏🏻😅
It's great 👍🙂👍
Love it.
Video idea: POV!!!!
hampshirephoto I listened through headphones and it sounded great. Heard all the snaps n pops 👍
Cheers for the coffee today mate? 😉 😂
After 3 years I still love my 140
I do agree, I have a 14 plate 135i ( stock ) and it’s sound amazing and it’s just amazing, not a lot in my area can keep up, astra VXR, sti’s and it have noticed that it does seem to take a good driver.
Amazed by yours would love to meet you and see it in person.
You and botb are the reason I got mine.
The Cupra is the forgotten hot hatch which is a true wolf in sheep's clothing. Single stage 1 map on mine makes 370bhp, and with the front diff and sticky rubber, set of springs, it sticks like glue!
Cupra gang 💪🏾
@@triz1hunna151
What’s the best cupra to go for tho? 290 7 DSG speed or 300 6 speed DSG?
Scott C all depends I would say get the dsg fuck a manual but I have a 1.4tsi cav Ibiza cupra 7speed dsg it’s all personal preference I think
@@ScottPC I've got a MK2 Cupra R manual and absolutely love it!
Another great video Luke, it doesn’t really matter which hot hatch you drive they all have their pluses and minuses but we enjoy them and they give us immense pleasure everyday, and that’s the ultimate goal. I’m having a Stage 1 remap on my 140 in a few weeks time with the same company you have used in Southampton 👍😃😃😃
Personally got a mk7 golf r but love ur vids. Soooooooo entertaining , great work pal
Picked my M140i up on Thursday... absolutely loving it so far. 👌🏻
Awesome video! Mine makes me smile everytime I drive it 🤩
i hear what you saying i have m140i i've had the xhp stage 3 map and it does make a different. Always gives me smiles 😂 it's a great hot hatch
Great video. 👍I’m a hot hatch fan , always have been from when I had a Mk2 Golf Gti early 90’s , currently got a Mk7 Gti, . They are so versatile, get the kids and dog in , get a DIY project in with seats laid flat , then when you on your own on a country road you can have fun . My Dad has a stock M140i in that bronze colour and it will be mine one day, and I’ll be keeping it stock as I think these will be desirable collectible being a unique hot hatch. “And so quick”
I prefer hot wagons, because of the practicality they offer. The best hot hatch i'd say is the Megane RS Trophy with cup chassis or the Civic Type R or the Golf TCR. These 350 bhp plus cars are not hot hatches they are budget muscle cars
you calling 350hp hatchbacks 'budget muscle cars' has really changed my perspective lol
Lastname Firstname golf TCR 👍👍
+1 for the megane. Loved mine
Whether you would class it as a hot hatch, there is another 3 litre, 6 cylinder hatch in the form of a clio V6, which like the M140i is rear wheel drive. Not quite the same power output but still offers tail happy fun
I think he is talking within the last 5 years or so. The Clio was a cool car. V6 in the back.. and RWD. Probably the closet thing to an M140i in terms of spec, yes, but miles apart in terms of performance, like you say. The Gen 1 was a lil snappy! Just like the 140 without a diff I guess 🙈
I think the M140i is the best hot hatch, because it does everything to a high level, a jack-of-all-trades.
It's comfy in comfort mode because the suspension is sensible, (oh wait, you have lowered yours and ruined it).
It's quiet and sensible, not attracting attention, (oh wait, you have ruined yours with a loud exhaust and stickers, so it sounds & looks ridiculous).
The seats are great, (oh wait, you have ruined yours fitting buckets).
If you want a track-day car, then fine, make one and use it on track. The whole point of the M140i is that is can be a sensible & practical family car, yet can also be a fun & fast weapon too.
I think you have completely missed the point by turning yours into a track day car but only driving it on the road.
Just my opinion, (and at least you removed those fucking gash stripes, so credit to you for that, even though you have become a sheep by blacking everything - badges, wheels, etc making it look chavtastic).
Nik Gnashers so, you’re on the fence then Nick? 😂
@@samcourt6228 Yes I'm undecided Sam lol !
Perfectly said
I think if you want the best all rounder - you’d buy a Golf R. Can drive it all year round and have no issues, and it’s so hopelessly boring it doesn’t stand out.
Shame the Golf is the worst hot hatch going ( in my opinion)
@@CJax749 I have been driving RWD BMW's 'all year round' for over 20 years my friend, with no issues :-)
If the weather is so bad that a GolfR might 'just about' get to places where a BMW won't, then in my opinion, you shouldn't be driving any sort of car, just stay in !
Awesome car! Do you have a list of what mods you've done? Thinking about getting some done to mine
Wicked vid Luke, ur car is the shit 🔥 dream car in my opinion well done mate and u have done amazing to come this far and get a car as amazing as this 👍🏻
I love to drive M140i xdrive too. Especially in the swiss alps with its winding streets. The Engine does a good job also in high altitude.
I've had my m140 3 years now its running a remap and a milltek non res exhaust and I cannot get anything else because there's nothing else that even comes close for what I pay!
The 4 cylinders all sound crap in comparison and the rs3 is so much more money thats its not worth it.
M140 is the king in terms of value for money
Smc and they don’t cost silly amounts to run either. I quite fancy an M2, but it’s quite a jump from my M140i to get into one.
I have a stage 1 Cupra and I sort of agree. IMO I'd likely drop you in some back roads, front strut makes it SO responsive and it'll beat a stock 140 in a straight line. But a stage 1 140 would just blow it out the water in a straight line, been up against a mate with a stage 1 m240 and I just couldn't keep up. If it didn't sound so much like a 4 cylinder it'd be the perfect car.
@@AJR-gg I agree with all the points you made.
The m140 just doesn't inspire confidence through the corners and I would struggle to stay with not just the cupra but any of its rivals down a B road. I was struggling to keep up with my mates stock golf r and ive got 130bhp more than him!
With an lsd and suspension upgrades i think it'd be a different story however.
As long as you're happy to mod cars then the m140 is the way to go
Love this car Luke, the journey its taken to bring us what we now know has be awesome, my only regret is not getting an honest review on your brake upgrade,as a result its pushed me to buying bigger 6 pots for my project,simply based on not knowing if that ebc set up can really hack 450bhp, I refuse to take advice from box sellers, hands on driver experience is key,and to date nobody has come through via CZcams channel 😒
How do I get those upshift farts, and pops and crackles on downshifts? PPF delete, double RES delete, stage 3 gearbox map with sports or decat?? Do I need anything else?
I was thinking and I noticed there's one or two things missing from the channel. And that is a head to head comparison with your BMW and the new 2020 M140I .I want to know what's your opinion on the new M140i
And also maybe a review or test drive on the new A45 AMG 🔥🔥🙌 but that's two type of things I wanna see on your channel in the near future
I am seriously considering a m140i! I have a seat leon cupra k1 which I love, but I have had it 9 years & want a new car. I did like the i30n performance but I keep on going back to the m140i. Your car is amazing 👏
The other cars you mention will handle better than the m140i. In standard form, the m140i does not handle as well as it could. I guess bmw didn't want to produce something that embarrassed an m car.
The ultimate handling hot hatch out the showroom would be renaultsport megane with a cup chassis.
I love my mk2 cupra R
Nice video good to see but the golf r was good
Very cool BMW M!!!!
Can someone list all his mods please ? I have this car with MPE ore PPF and am looking for ideas to modify it
I wouldn’t even say this can be classed as a hot hatch anymore, that would be the affordable / FWD fiesta st, clio rs, 208gti etc. I believe the M140 , a45, rs3, should be classed as a ‘super hatches’ otherwise what class do the ones I mentioned before fall under?
They fall under shit cars 😂
Shahid Hussain 🤣 come on man I love my mk8 st but there’s no chance this car is in the same category, needs its own division
Sam Fullick 😂 tbh fiesta st is a fun car but you’re right not in the same level
Think youll find there called hyper hatches.. its been a thing for a while lol
mike walling ah really, didn’t know that to be fair. The video says hot hatch so..
I have a 140 but going to be changing to a 20 plate golf R. Feel like they are much better all round cars and i just keep getting smoked by Rs at traffic lights. 140 is a sick car but too much skidding as rwd. Feel a bit scared esp in the rain lol.
Undeniably quick, and a car we probably we wont see this kind of layout again, but 90% of people who have had one and upgraded have said they’re a bit souless (that i have spoken to), but for ‘Ultimate Hot Hatch’ i reckon a Megane RS could give this a run for its money.
Soulless? The 140 is the opposite of that. Its completely unlike all the other hot hatches. It doesnt handle the best (megane / type r there) but has a mega engine and RWD. It will never be "the fastest" around a track, or had the AWD advantage a RS3 has, but it has put a smile like no other car on my face. It does need modding from stock to truely make people appreciate it (noise especially), but it would require a very, very special car to make me sell mine. I absolutely love it. I've driven all the other hot hatches, and they are all very good. But IMO they are all mostly from the same cookie cutter (AWD hatches, or FWD hatches) and drive pretty similar to each other. People say the steering doesnt have the best feel, but M3 UCA/LCA and a strut brace make a massive difference, and you end up with a car that steers beautifully without power interfering with the steering like every single other hatch. Being able to adjust the rotation of the car with your right foot. Being able to have fun like no other hatch (drifting it out of tight corners). Its a proper hooligan car once its had a few tasty mods. It's in it's own class. "Muscle Hatch"
I have never heard anyone say the M140i is soulless. It's the polar opposite! Even completely standard it's unlike any other hot hatch out there. I know, I've had most of them haha. It's by far my favourite.
They aint soulless just not as raw as some hot hatches and thats a good thing for a daily driver, a few mods and they can be mental.
Personally, The BMW M140i is ace but If I went for any hot hatch I could choose, Regardless of anything, It would be a Ford Escort RS Cosworth (It is a hot hatch, Look it up 🙂)
For the prices of a good cozzy you could have an rs6🤣
@@jamboSAFC It's worth it though 🙂. It's my dream car.
Escort cosworth was a homologation special built for rallying, never really intended as a production car, I wouldn't call it a hot hatch.....far more special than that
@@richiebtime489 It's denfinely a special car but it's been classed as a Hot Hatch too many times to not be one. But it is so much more then that.
You should try the old e81/87 130i and compare it to your M140i
Well Luke, I am an old fart, Peugeot 205 GTI in 1989 in Red, was the ultimate machine. I owned one for 3 years from new, worth around 30k now...So just purchased a M Lite Shadow and intend to keep her for many years because without doubt she will only appreciate over time. Love you vid.
Which diffuser is on this mate?
Wait for winter to kick in
Owned three rear drive BMWs over the last 10 years or so, im still waiting for the the winter of doom that everyone talks about with regard the BMW
@@markrhoden68 same. I'm on my 4th BMW and never had an issue in winter. traction off, careful with the throttle and no issues.
Usually said by most people who can't drive a FWD in snow themselves.
Mark Rhoden same here. My E90 330 didn’t kill me in the snow either...went up to see family at Christmas in 2014 and it snowed it’s arse off. The M1 and A61 were covered and we made it in one piece as did my brother in law in his Z4. My M140i didn’t kill me much last winter either....the throttle isn’t an on/off switch.
@@samcourt6228 im guessing the myth that BMWs will kill you in the winter is a rather over used joke made by people who without driver aids would have crashed long ago.
When i passed my test back in the 1980s ABS traction control etc etc didn't exist and im still here
Think the points been missed here.. I own a BMW and yes driven it in the snow, I’m still alive also..
I am mealy stating that a car to be the ultimate hot hatch to me would have to have all year “Uk” around abilities.. an M140 does not have that.. brilliant on bone dry roads but terrible trying to make quick progress in the wet / damp roads..
a 4wd car would disappear on a twisty B road in these conditions.
I’m with the Cupra 290, I came from a 7.5 Golf R but the Cupra has blown me away over the past 3 months of ownership
In what aspects is it better? I’m trying to figure out what to get myself super hatchback wise
You hav created a monster Luke🚙👌👌😂AWESOME CAR AWESOME VID👌👌👌SUPERB👌👌👌
It is, what makes it the ultimate is:
Inline 6 turbo very tuneable
Possibility of RWD
Possibility of manual transmission
Possibility of 3 door body
If I had to pic a base 116d automatic from that generation or the M135i Xdrive full of options from the actual generation I’d pick the 116d automatic. That long nose makes the car stand out and beautiful in my opinion
Gtfo. I’m sure we’re all in agreement over the new M135i and how bmw have lost their usp but you’re either lying or are absolutely bonkers if you’d rather have the prev gen 116d.
I-PREFER-THE-116d I’m not lying
Just as i thought, it is a personal preference which we think is the best hot hatch. Typically, some of these replies are just personal choices, not personal experience. One needs to experience all of the front runners, then decide which they think is their favourite. Again personal choice. As i haven't driven all of the vehicles mentioned in this topic, i can't give you my answer. Sorry. But some great cars amongst them. Another great video Luke. 👍
Make a video Drifting it 😜 and How differ's to an M2?
In the past few years like yourself I've owned many hot/hyper hatches including a 380bhp M135i ZF auto. Imho the best overall hatch atm is my current car the FK2 Civc Type R. Although fast I found the M135i to be a bit boring and steering lacked driver feed back. That's just my opinion which is subjective. Yes there are quicker cars on the road and smoother but for me a hot hatch is about fun factor and driver feedback. I just didn't trust the M135 in the twistys and it felt light on the front end aswell as the steering. I know your going to say the 140 has a B58 engine and the 135 has a N55 but it's still the same chassi. P. S. I really like your videos mate and keep them coming 👍.
I want one of these but i want one with a sun roof pro nav and adaptive suspension. That will be like trying to find a needle in a hay stack. 95% if these dont even have the pro nav!
Adaptive dampers is an absolute must if you do many miles. I binned my 140 off after 8 months as the standard dampers were shocking. If you do 3 miles a year just for Instagram, who cares, but I do 2500 a month. Standard nav is garbage also.
Mine has pro nav, but no sun roof.
Does this mean the M240i is the ultimate sports coupé then? ;) ;) awesome video as always
For me being 21 years old. What would you recommend for me as student considering you’ve had both, a Golf R or an M135i/M140?
He would recommend anything German but realistically they don't make the best handling or most fun cars.
@@tracktimevideos5164 And you need to be a rich kid to afford them, and to run them, at that age.
On a standard m140i I keep up with one in my fiesta St on the way back from picking the car up
Of course you did 🤦♂️
Had my m135i for nearly 2 years now, completely stock great performance and economy.amg or an m car would be nice next maybe
Yes me too, an M140i stock (apart from an 'invisible' remap ; WITHOUT a stupid pops & bangs map).
I think the next step is an M2.
@@DjNikGnashers was going to go for an m140i but never bothered in the end.was behind an m2 with an after market exhaust recently sounded angry!
I’ve had mine for about a month now, I love it, but it’s too quiet, especially for that engine. I’ve got the 2019 model and wondering if anyone has had issues when it comes to servicing and MOT with the PPF removed?
Go get the PCW MOD done ASAP! I’ve got a ppf m240i and it sounds way better now. PCW mod is £300 fully worth it and won’t affect mot/servicing at all! Check my channel out for a video of it
Shahid Hussain I’ve heard so many good things about that place. My uncle keeps telling me to go there. He’s had a few cars done there too. Very competitive price! Will deffo get it done very soon.
Getting rid of the PPF would affect an MOT, just don’t touch that or the CAT and you’ll be fine.
yep. I prefer the m135i lci but i'm biased as I own one.
Picking mine up Monday! Stuck between 7.5r and this hope I made a good choice
I’ve got an m135i LCI - I smile every time I drive it. That 6 cylinder never gets boring
Don't think you could go wrong with either- they're both monsters.
my 240 is being deliveried on wednesday.trust me mate,we've made the best decision.b58 gang all day
Should have gone for golf
imran javed I had the mk7 r already preferred a change tbh
Will my m240i do a “dsg up shift” with a stage 1 or stage 2 XHP map?
Yes mate I've just had mine done do it yourself buy your license and then your maps it really easy to do and you can choose your maps and switch from 1 2 or 3 i personally went for map 3 and its awesome.
If you're talking about the dsg "fart", no it won't.
You need a decat or sports cat to make the 140 fart.
Stock, the upshift fart is hardly noticeable and only happens at 3/4k rpm so nothing when redlining unfortunately. Go to 5:48 and you'll see what it's like. Very very subtle at low rpm only.
Only thing I didnt like about mine.
D Jibby ahh ok fair enough, i think ill leave remapping the gearbox on the m240i then and losing my warranty on it. Might get an rs3 saloon next so I’ll have all the dsg farts then 😂
@@SH7SH7SH7 I went s3 for the same reason 😂 (and awd)
Bang for buck golf r is night and day the best hot hatch. M140 is so unique and an awesome car. At the end of the day it all comes down to personal preference. Dsg's can get a bit boring after long term use so I can see why you changed it up.
Depends what you want. Focus rs will out handle all of them out the box
Maybe third in the top hot hatch list. More fun because rear wheel drive but Audi RS3 and A45S dominate on power. A45s also has drift mode which adds that fun factor back into it
All autos, all driver interaction removed, all boring.
Track Time Videos I suppose you’re right but that’s the modern car
U said find me another rwd 6cylinder u forgot about the m135i f20. Not the new 1
I agree mega bang per buck performance cars. But seriously the original idea of a hot hatch, cheap fast fun, would be something like an UP GTi or a Suzuki Swift!
🤣🤣🤣
Anyone got a Megane 280 t’as?
Love the channel, but the ultimate hot hatch should be a car that doesn't need tweaking, so rear wheel drive is m140i, front wheel is Honda civic type r and 4 wheel drive is between megane rs trophy or golf r/Audi s3
But please don't forget the i30 n, the tops end dear car are Audi rs3 and amg merc.
Meganes are fwd 4ws, not 4wd.
Are you Elvis Costello's Grandson?
It's one of a kind, very different to anything else that was available at the time. As a used car it represents serious value, its certainly a proper drivers car
Not a drivers car at all as standard, needs lots of mods for that. As standard they are fqr too uncomposed and blobby feeling.
@@tracktimevideos5164 whilst they do suffer from poor handling, there set up makes for a very interesting and unpredictable ride, which is a refreshing change to the other HH out there with all there trick AWD systems. Bilstein Kit, downpipe, stage 2 map and for under 2k in mods you are driving a 480bhp weapon
@@relentlesspursuit6894 i don't disagree thatt they can be vastly improved but as standard they would be lucky to get in the top 10 of hot hatches. 👍
@@tracktimevideos5164 depends how you measure what makes a good HH - its top 10 for sure! Ignoring the 55k RS3 & A45 it's the quickest straight line, along with being the only 3.0 6cyl the B58 being one of the best engines around), and the only RWD - in my books that alone puts in top 5!
@@relentlesspursuit6894 perhaps you are only including cars made in the last few years? There are many, many more focussed /driver orientated hot hatches from recent times and 10-15-20 years ago.
The answer is: YES!
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yes it is
These are defo the best! Also biased coz I have one. The b58 is a new platform so give it 5 years and they’ll be able to be running stupid power! M140i all the way 😀
There are already loads running stupid power , the 6 cylinder closed deck ,forged engine is a masterpiece
Take your car to evolve automotive in Luton they are a bmw shop search them on the internet
I’ve had most of the best hot hatches and I still think the M140i is the best - not the most powerful but then it doesn’t need to be
I'm a A45 fan but rs3 for the sound
The A45s have some noise to them too trust me
Autos are for the elderley
I opted for the i30n over the M135i. Bang for Buck. The M140i a Great Hot Hatch but in the Wet? Oops :)
Yes.
There are so many hot hatches out there to choose. It’s so annoying when your in the market to buy one. Got to make sure your 💯 that you buy the right car
Why do bmw still use the i in their model's ? I think most cars these days are fuel injected
From the mid 60's to the early 70's BMW used "ti" to indicate twin Solex carbs, "tii" indicated Kugelfischer fuel injection, which was a mechanical system....
Facelift pre OPF RS3 is the ultimate hot hatch, fact!!!
nah, pretty numb steering, too much understeer. One of the fastest, yes, but far from the ultimate hatch.
Biased, maybe. I own this exact model on an 18 plate. It’s properly epic, performance, sound and if you want, it’s tuning potential is limitless....
No why would you even suggest that?😄
Just dont like the shape of the 1 series. Sorry but looks like a van with windows to me. When you gonna sell it and get something like a 2 door M4 ?
I've owned mine for a year and absolutely love it. No plans on changing. However, I think it's DNA leans more towards muscle car than hot hatch.
Ultimate hot hatch for the money, forget your golf rs an audi s3s. no where can you find a 6 pot turbo 340bhp hot hatch for under 20k. its a winning combo!
Yes I think so, it’s the fastest 😎 the Clio V6 was 3 litre rear wheel drive? RS3 is up there to.
Apart from the RS3 is slower and not as fun to drive 🤣
S3 is the same as the Golf R far to common for me
Pheasant Pluckers son you probably are a Audi driver and ‚fanboy‘ ?!
Pheasant Pluckers son RS3 367hp is exactly same speed as stock M140
Pheasant Pluckers son ? I didn’t get it, sorry
The m140 stock is fast, and it has the B58 engine, which is capable of getting close to500 Bhp with minimal tuning, then its an incredibly fast car. I can’t remember when I last saw an m140
Audi S3 and Golf R on the other hand 🥱
I’m an M2 driver BTW, but saying the M140 is leagues behind an RS3 is delusional tbh
I won’t say any more 🤐
Gotta say Luke, you’ve done an absolutely top job on your M140i. I was one of the ‘remove the stripes’ brigade. Since then, you’ve turned it into a beast...which sounds awesome. But, I still would have an RS3 (which I do). I’ve had the Cupra’s, Golf GTI’s and S3’s etc but the RS3 is simply on a different planet. Great video by the way...
All I see is a pop corn maker
All I can see is a four pot child
Sounds better than any 4 pot golf crap have you heard how utter shite the golf r sounds its an absolute fart can
@@Magezzz ... I own a Golf R ... it’s ok if your still driving your brothers camry... my comment still stands
Do me a favour.. go like my comment... go!!!
@@user-xl4pb5wo1g lad you're watching a UK channel no one drives "camrys" over here and you don't even get the m140i, which blows the golf r out the water. 6 cylinder sounds better than any 4 pot I've owned both and 6 cylinder always sounds miles better
#9:21-#9:48=❤️
B58 is the best engine in the hatch, none of the 4 pots can compare. 👌
RS3, 5 pot is next best engine
I do like a 140i 👍
Just got 1 absolutely ace, like a really quick gokart
£20,000 for a car which when tuned can embarrass 10year old supercars and still be daily driven like it’s a 120d. It’s a great car, it’s why it’s so popular.
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Its the perfect hot hatch. Nothing beats this period
Chris those are not hot hatches. Rs3 maybe but its not a 3 litre is it ? And doesnt look as good
Chris i disagree the rs3 is is just boring and ugly
Chris the vlog is about hot ‚HATCHES‘ !!!
Chris i don’t know what your personal problem is - I’m sorry for you
All the best
Its a long way from being perfect. As standard they handle poorly, this one is auto (yuk) and the steering and manual gearbox are far from best in class. Good engine amd a good base if you want to modify but nowhere near being the best hot hatch as standard.
Question sport.....Did your “lovely girlfriend” break your car when she drove it last “Mate.
A true hot hatch has to be manual thats the whole point. Small practible, fast and fun.
To have the title of best hot hatch it needs to be manual otherwise its disqualified
Also helps if it handles well, which these don't
@@tracktimevideos5164 No, a hot hatch should be able to do it all, ie be a sensible family car, comfortable and practical when needed, then a weapon if required.
The M140i is much more comfortable than it's rivals, and when required can be a very entertaining and fun car. THAT is what a hot hatch should be.
If you want the ultimate performing and handling car, buy a fucking real sports car.
@@DjNikGnashers you are right to an extent but the M140i is far too flawed to be considered much of a hot hatch at all. More a mini GT car and that is not what hot hatches are about. No need for the peasant-like swearing too please, it's just a discussion
@@tracktimevideos5164 I'm 'over' 50, I work in the motor trade at a main dealership, so I think I'm quite qualified to have an opinion.
What you said about the M140i is too flawed is just your 'opinion', and I think it's wrong, so I am disagreeing.
This is how I discuss things.
A hatch, is (or should be), a sensible family car, comfortable for families, kids, shopping, and suitable for daily duties.
A hot hatch, should be all of the above, but with a bit of fun thrown in, and a quicker turn of pace.
It is not supposed to be an ultimate track day car from the factory. It needs to be comfortable for long trips, which is why it doesn't come with deep bucket seats as stock, it needs to handle the bumpy, pot-hole riddled roads in every town & city, not be a rock hard, lowered, spine breaker.
You don't seem to be able to understand this simple concept.
If somebody want's a mega-handling, superfast car, buy a Caterham, or a 911 etc.
I remember the original hot hatchbacks, the Talbot sunbeam lotus and similar, but millenials haven't got a clue and think a hot hatch has to be a sub 4 second AWD, rock hard riding, weapon, lol, it's actually quite amusing.
When they gain knowledge, experience, and maybe actually work in the motor trade for many years, they will learn why they are wrong in thinking the way they do at this present time.
@@DjNikGnashers you are entitled to your opinion. You didn't come across as someone of 50 years when throwing swear words into tbe mix. I have worked in the motortrade for Mercedes, VW and independants but wouldn't go back now. Most people that work in that field are actually very disinterested in the subject and very few sales people know anything about what they are selling despite "being in the motortrade for 30 years" etc. Personally I value the opinion of enthusiasts and journalists far more.
You seem obsessed with comfort but that has never been what a hot hatch has been about. It has always been about a fun and practical car with a decent turn of pace that can be used daily as any or the current breed of hot hatches can.
We will have to agree to disagree. There is loads of choice in this category of car and you would be hard pressed to find a truly bad car but it depends on what your priorities are in regards to speed/practicality/looks etc are.
Honda Type R EP3 or Clio 182 Trophy. Light, nimble and old school.
I can never work out which I like the best, my Golf 7 or my bicycle.
A45 no argument needed. The A45 looks nicer, sounds nicer and it’s all wheel drive. Fuck yer RS3 n M140i
Value for money surely it’s the M135i? Better noise than M140i and way cheaper (not the 4 cylinder🤮)
Uglier, slower, less reliable engine, ugly steering wheel, you pay more for the m140i for a reason.
Golf R is best hot hatch and has been since 2013! And you know it, you regretted getting rid of yours.......
The reason why I started following this channel is because of the golf R I was kinda shocked when he said he was selling it regarding the money spent on it but hey it's each to their own
Must be amazing to be given everything as a kid.
4wd will always handle better....
Hence the new M135i xdrive!!!
Also boring after a while🤷♂️ something a bit fun about getting behind the wheel of a car that wants to kill you every time.
Since when exactly? It puts the power down from a standstill better thats it. Rwd is more balanced. King of super cars is rwd, the 720s and has been for a long time. More cars going awd cause people feel more secure with it so it sells better. M140i is better than the new m135i which is complete garbage and sounds crap
Golf R clearly is, if you actually tuned yours you would know.
😂🤣😂🤣
Yes, because everyone loves a car which doesn't get out of shape, and has a low rent interior don't they ?
People who value FUN above outright pace, get FUN cars because they are FUN people.
Boring twats buy boring cars like a GolfR or RS3.
@@DjNikGnashers you seem very angry, typical BMW driver I guess.
@@tracktimevideos5164 You seem like a stupid, typical, idiot who thinks all BMW drivers are like the silly, stereotype, that stupid people (like you) believe they are.
What's exactly in my comment, came across as 'angry' ?
I'm a long way from angry, in fact, I'm laughing here, at your stupidity.
Ultimate if you can’t afford the A45s
Still a 4 cylinder. The m140i can be tuned to simular power than the A45s. It’s a cool hyper hatch but way too expensive.
BemaRoxtv and a stage one a45s has achieved 500hp and 0-100km in 3.3sec on joe Achilles channel. Something m140i will never be able to match. Add in the better looks and tech it doesn’t compare
Nick Ng Nick Ng Wow the M140i can’t launch as quick as an A45s. If you’re into driving fast, launching a car from a standstill isn’t really a priority unless you want to drag race. The M140i can easily be tuned to 500bhp and way more tourqe than the A45s. Oh, and let’s not mention how the car sounds being a 6 cylinder. Smoother, more tourqe and a sound the A45 will never be able to match. I’ll take a slower 0.60 time for more fun car overall. Oh, and 20,000 less. No brainer.
BemaRoxtv lol how else you gonna compare to other pp on the road apart from traffic light Grand Prix? Enjoy the a45s beating you each time every time. A45s better tech better brakes better handling. Yea if your short on money go for the m140i which isn’t even in the same league as the a45s. M2 I can admit is more of a pure drivers car than the a45s and it is priced similarly to the a45s anyway
BemaRoxtv that i6 in the bmw doesn’t even sound that good imo, with a resonator delete the a45s will sound just as good with pops and bangs. Nothing compares to the v8 in the 63s
Civic Type R FK8 is hands down best driver's car
But the way it looks... oh gosh!
@@f00lxpl I think it looks brilliant, but am in the minority!
DSG farts are the worst thing in cars I think - just plain awful
You are simply wright for ever, ever, ever.
Golf R is a bad Joke against the m140i.😄
Mk2 Focus RS is miles better then these new breed
Boring and ugly looking. Sound average. Plus it’s not a euro so ehh.
Correction YOUR m140i is the perfect hothatch
It's up there in modern terms, but it's no where near the ultimate hot Hatch. Older cars are a better experience, more steering feel, less weight, and they make better noises. Don't get me started on pop and bang maps 🤮🤮🤮🤮. Sound horrible and make you look an absolute tit everywhere you go.
The steering feel of a E46 BMW is awesome comparing it to modern BMW and many other cars, and the Audi/VW steering was always boring and still is. Of course the E46 has less comfort, one with a performance suspension is pure pain, but I miss the funny times with that car. All new cars feel numb and sterile.
How can it be the ultimate hot hatch when the Focus RS's, Meganes and Civic Type Rs exist. As standard all of these cars are far better than the M140i wh8xh as standard is a poor car to drive. The M140i does have the best engine though but that's the only place it excels.
Because a car isn't all about performance. The BMW has a far better infotainment and build quality than any of the cars you just mentioned, it's also RWD which comes with its own merits.
The B58 engine is superb, again trumping the alternatives.
Theyre all good cars, it comes down to preference.
I dont own any of them, but I prefer the BMW
@@Chris-nj1mr build quality is not all about soft touch dashboards and clunky feeling doors, that is perceived build quality. Build quality is actually defined by how long mechanical components and trim holds together etc Japanese cars have anything German licked in the actual build quality department.
In regards to the infotainment, personally I prefer Fords sync 3 system over BMWs but I haven't used all of them from every manufacturer so can't say which is actually best...can you?
@@tracktimevideos5164 You're confusing build quality with reliability. Japanese cars will always be more reliable, but the interiors are not designed as well. That's not really even up for debate, surely?
I've owned a tuned megane 275 cup which was a fantastic car, and the partnership with Nissan certainly helped with reliability. In terms of driving pleasure, it beats the rest of the pack.
Again, you can't seriously compare Fords infotainment with BMW, the M140i uses the same tech as you'd find in a top of the line 5 series. You may prefer it as you're familiar with it, but bmw is renowned for having a superb Idrive. Ask Matt Watson who tests them all for a living!
Luke is removing the OPF filter not illegal when the car is used on public roads ? Every company who offers removal states “track use only” yet you openly admit having it done while driving !
I’ve got an OPF equipped model and live a couple of miles from who removed yours, am I wrong??
@@Chris-nj1mr Far better build quality than a Civic Type R. I think not!