HOW MUCH to repair?? The cost of Honda Goldwing ownership.
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- čas přidán 24. 10. 2022
- We recently had a little problem with our Goldwing! The little problem presented us with a large repair bill....
I explain what went wrong, and what it cost to repair.
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I live in California and have ridden a Honda Goldwing for many years now. One thing I would like to say (and a lot of goldwing owners do not know this) is that you can reset your ECU control module, and when you had the new injector fitted the goldwing was looking for the old one so it had to be reset to "see" the new one. I reset my goldwing every so often and here is how you do it. In the morning when the bike is cold, put the key in and start the engine, BUT, do not touch the throttle, just start it and let it idle, now it takes about 5 mins so stay and listen to the engine and as soon as the cooling fan for the engine cuts in. turn of the ignition and that's it. you can now start and ride. I moved house when I retired about 4 years ago and where I did live was about 300 ft above sea level, where I moved to was at 2400 ft. I reset the ECU and all was great. I am Scottish by the way. moved to California in 1981. but used to be a trucker over there and drove many of the roads you show on your video, keep up the good work.
Thanks Pete, I shall heed your advice. Scotland's great isn't it? Even with loads of tourists (like us!) it's so peaceful and uncrowded. We're going again soon....
It is very sad to hear you have been through painful times, I wish you all the best for your future ride. And good luck
£1800 was indeed a reasonable price, it cost me that to have new clutch and flywheel fitted to my car last year. As with any secondhand vehicle you always have to consider why the previous owner decided to move it on. There is always a risk that you may be buying an ongoing fault. My tip for you is learn how the plastics come off and go back on again because any regular maintenance like checking the air cleaner or sparkplugs will involve whipping the plastics off. In an ideal world when you turn off the ignition switch then everything electrical switches off too, but any automotive electrician will remind you about the alarm system, parking lights, immobilizer and no doubt certain aspects of the ecu. It may be worth checking the electrical connections for corrosion or signs of water ingress. Your bike is only new to you, its been used and sadly also abused by its previous keepers. Just give it a good check over and make sure that you have recovery. But enjoy the ride as it sounds like improvements have already been made.
Good advice 👍
Thanks for sharing, will be getting my first Goldwing in March next year so appreciate you sharing with us. Hopefully the last of any woes, sounds like bike is much improved after the work. Also pleased to hear your dealership looked after you(Have had 5 Hondas from my dealers who also look after you well) Safe riding.
I think it just needed some TLC! Enjoy the new bike! Sarah
I had a GL 1800 Goldwing. After decades behind bars I felt that I deserve to have the best. I bought a used gl1800 with only 13,000 miles on it. It still has the original tires on it. No maintenance was ever done. I believe the machine was on the Side stand it’s whole life because the suspension felt limp..
being an exmotorcycle mechanic at several shops. I ordered tires, aftermarket fork springs, and matching spring rate shock spring. Fork seals bushings wipers, oil, air filter, oil filter, final drive oil.. I added heated grips, I bought a new OEM windshield with a vent. And I started working on the machine doing all the maintenance that it never had. The clutch fluid looked like a melted chocolate milkshake when it came out..I’m surprised the seal did not fail on the slave cylinder. I changed the brake fluid. I removed a lot of the trinkets the goldwing owners ofren adorn their motorcycles with pretty often and sold those things on eBay. I don’t go in for add on chrome or stickers or Christmas tree lights or loud exhaust. I learned decades ago that the factory knows best.. One of the accessories I removed were the aftermarket floorboards. They were in the way. And in the owners manual, Honda specifically says do not install floorboards..(leads to transmission problems?)
while working on the machine, the degree of difficulty in accessing different things like just changing the air cleaner, and, just changing the spring on the rear shock made me realize that, many of these components if not just about every maintenance item is pretty much buried under plastic.. I have always done my own maintenance, and over the decades, I’ve done my own engine rebuilding on my road race machines, on which I won six championships and was national champion two times in my class. I can do pretty much anything except rebuild triple crankshafts on two strokes, and I do not have a boring bar for boring cylinders.. but everything else is pretty much just take everything apart and keep track of all the little fasteners and nuts and bolts, and I can usually get things back together till now anyway..
i’ve done all the maintenance on mine and my families dirt bikes and quads and trials bikes, and all my street bikes and sport bikes and touring bikes and quads and commuters and dual sport machines, 108 in all so far.. it’s an obsession. I am a motorcycle junkie.. although I have never had a Harley, don’t want one either, and I’ve never had a British bike, yet.. Moto Guzzi’s, beta, gas gas, FANTIC, one bmw ( k1200lt ) my first and last BMW, never again will I go out on that limb.. all the rest have been Japanese.. Honda Yamaha Kawasaki Suzuki Bridgestone.
of all of those motorcycles that I have always done intense maintenance on it. My Goldwing was absolutely the most time-consuming difficult motorcycle to work on. Motorcycles and cars and trucks and just about any mechanical thing, they don’t wear out, they are neglected to death..
The troubles you were having with this machine I experienced with my Yamaha FJ 1200. Intermittent no start and intermittent wild cycling of my dashboard gauges.. that turned out to be a dirty side stand switch not making good contact when closed.. it was a bit grimy and gritty from road grime sticking to the lube I would spray on my side stand.. that has also been an issue on the clutch safety switch for starting your motorcycle when you stall it in gear. You simply pull the clutch in and it will engage the starter. I have found those to be troublesome especially on motorcycles that people use pressure washers on. All that water being forced into the switches under pressure carrying the dirt with them into the wire harness into the cables into the switch..
I am a retired electrician/HVAC technician. Most problems with air conditioners, furnaces, electric heaters, ice machines, refrigerators, most problems are electrical, more than 90% of the time..
Number two fuel injector on your Goldwing went bad? I am actually not surprised by that ..Here in the United States, the fuel that is blended for the general public is 10% ethanol mixed with gasoline. i’m not convinced that is a good or a bad thing yet although I do know you lose some gas mileage and ethanol absorbs water right out of the air because it is alcohol based.. but when I changed everything I could think of on my Goldwing when I first got it maintenance wise filters, oils, tires, I could not find a fuel filter available anywhere. I went through my 2 inch thick Honda service department manual, there was no mention of a fuel filter anywhere. It turns out to my surprise, and I mean a big surprise, that my Goldwing did not have a fuel filter.. I used to think fuel injectors were pretty simple, and carburetors were complex. Nothing could be further from the truth, it is fuel injectors that are complex internally, and carburetors are as simple as your toilet basically.. One other little thing about fuel injected motorcycles.I mention this on my website/videos on CZcams. If you have a dead battery on a fuel injected motorcycle. You ain’t gonna be able to bump start that bike. You’re gonna have to carry jumper cables because your ECU and fuel pump need 12 V to operate..
The only problem I ever had with my Goldwing was the four-way flashers turned on and I could not get them to turn off.. it turns out to be a very very common problem with the GL 1800. So common that there were people selling used four-way flasher modules for hundreds of dollars on eBay..
so when I got my Goldwing maintenance schedule completely done from steering head bearings to fork oil to final drive oil to air cleaner change to rear shock spring change(which was more difficult to do than changing the air cleaner, which means you have to remove the dashboard bezel parts of the interfering the engine cover the side covers the seat the battery voltage regulator the fuel tank just to get at the top bolt on the rear shock)
after seeing how long it takes to do basic maintenance chores on the Goldwing, when I got it completed on my maintenance schedule. I sold it..
I sold it because the thought of maybe having to do something serious like replace the clutch made me grit my teeth just thinking about it..
I sold the gold wing and I bought myself a 2008 Yamaha royal star venture. My third venture since 1986. You can access the starter, the alternator, the slave cylinder, the water pump, and the clutch without removing a single piece of plastic on the ventures. To change the air cleaners is a 20 minute job because there’s two of them one on each side in front of your knees. ventures have what turns out to be simple carburetors it will always get you home and you can bump start a bike with carburetors when the battery goes flat..
The Goldwing was a much smoother bike, it was too powerful and I mean that I mentioned that in one of my videos comparing ownership of both machines on CZcams. Gold wings are perfect, but that 1800 CC motor is thirsty. It’s unnecessarily overpowered. I get around 45 to 48 mpg on my venture, my goldwing got 33 mpg..
The Goldwing is the standard for smooth. Once I got rid of the floorboards and put on the standard foot pegs and shifter, it shifted like butter, I did rebuild the suspension on the Goldwing and the suspension was tight, the brakes were better than on my venture, the cruise control was perfect on my Goldwing. My Venture Cruise control drifts A few mph.. The Goldwing handles better than my Venture, but I’m not out here backing it around corners. I want Plush roomy simple. That’s why I went back to the Venture. The Goldwing scared me away with its complexity. You have to marry the dealer with many of today’s cars trucks and motorcycles now. That’s why I went backwards slightly to the Venture. Much roomier, and they last just as long. I’ve had three ventures since 1986. But if I had not tried the BMW and the gold wing, I would not have appreciated the Venture as much as I do now for its simplicity and roominess and ride..
Don’t get me wrong, gold wings are perfect, if you fit them..but a little too complex for me
Christ, that must be the longest reply on utube😊
Hmmm. Interesting,when I bought my 05 wing,I gave it a good service,including the air filter, and boy what a palaver that was.
@@marksimpson5218 I've been on CZcams since 2007, and this is indeed the longest response I have ever seen.
I must be a gluten for punishment. I also do all my own work. I've done everything but the rear spring. I even did a water pump. I'm on my third 1800.
Glad it's repaired. I've just got the same bike and colour and love it. They are heavy though. Thoroughly enjoying your journeys with her, keep them coming.
Thanks for your comment. Yeah, they really are heavy aren't they?! I'm getting to used to it though and I'm enjoying it more and more.
Sad that you had to go through that, but listening to you describe the problem made me think that this was going to be a huge expense. Although what you paid out is high, I expected much worse. Relatively speaking, you got off fairly well. And it sounds like you got an entirely different machine out of it and now you know where you stand maintenance-wise. Kudos to the dealership for taking care of you honestly and professionally. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Rob. It would have been a lot worse if the dealership hadn't stopped charging for labour half way through! But yes, we got off fairly well and we're both calm about it :)
The improvement really took me aback and had me hesitating for a minute, wondering what the heck was 'wrong' with the bike. It was money we would have preferred to keep in our account but we got very good service and a working bike in exchange. Oh, and the dealership gave me a Honda polo shirt to make me feel a little better!
I’m on my third goldwing , all three have been really reliable. My current one is an 2008 and I’ve put on 85000 miles on it with no problems ! But I’ve heard of a few that had ECU issues! Sounds like they have you fixed up ! 👍
I was talking yesterday to the tech who fixed our bike last year and he said he'll never forget us or our bike because of the rarity of the injector problem. He has been a bike mechanic for a total of 50 years and a Honda dealership mechanic for the last 30 and he reiterated that he'd never before seen an injector fail on a Honda. Not that there would have been injectors on Honda 50 years ago....
Hello from across the pond. Hopefully you won't have anymore problems as Gold Wings are pretty reliable bikes. I currently have a 1994 GL1500 and 2000 F6C Valkyrie Interstate. I had a 2008 GL1800, but sold it last summer because I wasn't satisficed with the suspension and didn't want to spend the money for the TRAXXION upgrade. My GL1500 and Valkyrie are both great bikes and I hope to get many more miles out of them. Ride safe!
Happy riding Larry, we are envious of the distance you guys get to go out there! We run out of land after a bit! :D
Brilliant video thanks
Had a GL1200 for 10 years, which had the habit of cutting out when hot when I first owned it. Turned out tobe the pulse igniters which L changed when I replaced the belts. At first I suspected the fuel, but resurched internet which pointed me to the pu;se igniters. This was a 86 year, so the whole thing was simpler than yours. Still own a Honda, downsized to CTX700N, which I find easier to move around. Good Luck with yours, Mine was great after the inial problems.
My '86 1200 had pulse Generator failure at 34 Years old....the original Exhaust system is ailing now at 36 Years old.
Honda do get their Engineering right.
Saw your video. Was pondering getting to my local mechanic who I trust to do the next service. I checked my Honda Extended Warranty out - must be serviced at Honda Dealer. Saw your video and booked next service at a main dealership. No shortcuts allowed!
Good decision Nigel! Vertu Honda were super good👍 Sarah
@FBG life Everyday is a school day. I hope the issue is now resolved and you'll both have many problem free miles on the wing. Looking forward to your future videos.
All the best
Thank you Thomas, so far so good!
Oh wow! I’m on my third Wing, and they’ve never let me down. However… if they do need some kind of extensive repair, the bill can quickly add up. Everything other than brakes and oil changes can be time consuming and costly if you’re paying someone to do it. Glad you’re back on the road. Here’s to many, many miles of happy cycling!
Before we bought the bike we did lots of research and one thing we came away with is that Goldwings are tremendously reliable. It was a kick in the guts to buy the one Goldwing that has troubles :)
I hear ya. But sounds like all is well now and hopefully many miles of worry free travels.
Welcome to the BMW-club, these are the same bills they are presented with, never bikes (or cars) with computers can quickly get expensive,thats why I ride old bikes,simpler and not to complicated- hope you solved the problems and can enjoy the bike in the future!!!
That is such a rare occurrence on a goldwing... I'm now on my third ( same generation as yours) and they have all been flawless... although the wings do run off of low octane fuel I never run less than 91 here in canada... sorry your first experience with the wing is less than completely positive but hopefully your future ownership is nothing but a pleasure to help you forget about this hiccup....
I wonder if it's possible mice where reeking havoc on the electrical??... strange..
Was also going to mention that your right... unless the bike has power to exit out of reverse it is mechanically locked in reverse...
Thanks for sharing!... wishing you and yours many safe miles and plenty smiles😊
Cheers
Adam
Thanks Adam! We've had some more trips since this and all seems to be well so fingers crossed!
Sorry for your troubles. Glad you are both back up and rolling happily though. How are the slow speed maneuvers coming?
Thanks for your comment, we're certainly happy to be back in the saddle again! I am getting better at slow speed riding thanks! Bit by bit I'm learning to be less scared of the bike's bulk. Poor riding is caused by poor state of mind I think.
Thats the Honda dealer near me - good to know they gave you good service
Thanks for your comment. Aimee, Lee and John at Vertu could not have been better and I truly got the feeling that they cared about both the bike and me. Their excellent standard of attention and service ensures we will trust the bike to them for any further servicing and repairs. Yes it will cost a bit but I feel it's worth it.
Oh no....never expected this from Honda.....feel sad for you. 1800k is not a small thing. Hope the bike keeps happy going forward and you enjoy the time riding it.
You're right, it's no small thing but we had no choice. Otherwise we'd have a very expensive ornament sitting in the garage. And yes, still hugely enjoying riding it thanks!
I had what I thought was a dead (recently purchased) battery on my 2003 Goldwing once, took the old one out, traded it on on a new one, the new one acted the same as the old one. Turns out it was a faulty kill switch, but I ended up losing my brand new Yuasa battery because of it. Now I always check the kill switch first if she doesn't want to start.
Kill switch. Right that's another one for me to make a mental note of! Thanks.
My 2022 DCT tour Goldwing will be sold when it's 8 year warrentey expires. Taking off the plastic is a massive job alone. I expect it to cost a lot of money but boy is it worth it! You paid less than I thought you were going to given all the troubles you had. Let's hope she gives you trouble free motoring from now on... P.S having a bike shop you trust and will do good work is half the battle.
Wow, that was just bad luck. I had similar problems with the ECU ok n my Yamaha MT01 years ago, cost me a fair bit too, and yes new keys were needed etc too. Least you know you won't have that prob lol em again. At first I thought you were gonna say rectifier / regulator problems as that would have been my first guess. Anyhow, good video and keep up the vlogging guys...
I had a rectifier fail on my Versys and at the time I was pretty upset by the cost of buying a replacement but it pales into insignificance next to this expense.
Honda weren't able to replicate the fault on this bike and it's really only a best guess that the battery 'dumping' problem was caused was by the fuel injector - possibly by the solenoid sometimes sticking open or half open and causing a massive and instant draw on the battery. We've had no problems since the repair so fingers crossed that, like you say, we won't have the problem again.
My first guess was sidestand cutout switch 😆
I'd not recommend charging the battery while it's still connected to the bike's electrical system, as I feel it "can" cause issues with the bike's most sensitive electrical parts should the charger ever up the voltage too high on the battery for some unforeseen reason while its connected to the bike. I always disconnect the battery's negative cable before connecting a battery tender to it and even then I only charge it for 12 hours or so at the longest, and then just leave things disconnected from the battery and then reconnect the negative battery cable to the bike whenever I want to go on a ride. This has worked out well for me for battery longevity and I also have avoided electrical issues over the decades I've ridden on various brands of bikes and atvs. I also do this for tractors and vehicles that sit alot. I currently have had my '06 Goldwing navigation airbag model for over 8 years now with no electrical issues other than changing the battery out the one time just to be on the safe side since that trip was going to be over 5000 miles in cold high altitude areas up in parts of Oregon and Washington state (I rode in some wet snow!) and then in lower altitude 99 deg. F hot climates in the desert southwestern USA.
Yeah guys sound like a rare electrical failure not common to this brand but anything can fail. Thanks for sharing your story. Hope for safe and trouble free travels from hear on in. As I am now watching formula 1 racing now dominated by Honda powered engine to the generator and pressure washer all Honda motors I own. I also own the 2019 Goldwing I believe they are still the best engineered engines in the world. Be safe
Thanks Rich! Bike is good again and we are enjoying our adventures. More videos in the editing room! Sarah 👍
Hi great channel very nice motorcycle ;)
Thank you so much - and now I'm enjoying your channel's videos.
Really glad you got it sorted out in the end 🤣 I got myself brand new VFR800 two years ago and had no end of problems with it and the South wales dealership was useless and got rid of it after jut 4k miles and 11 months 🙄 will never buy another Honda
That sucks! I must say I am very happy with our Honda dealership - they almost make spending money pleasurable :)
Not many bike people can say injector no 2, of 6! Glad all went well!
Glad the other 5 didn't go too! 😁Sarah
i do not leave the bike on trickle charge any more, too many problems the last battery only lasted 6 months it showed 12.5v static but it did not hold the amps for cranking, i have not charged the bike for 3 months so i just went to the garage, after your video and it started first time, i just charge it now and again over the year, standard yuasa battery , if you google goldwing owners club great britain there will be lots of info on their web page to look up,etc
I think I heard you say that you got a new ECU as part of the repair. It could be that along with that you received a software update flash and that may reflect as to why the bike runs better.
Yes, the tech suggested that when the fuel injector failed (probably a sticking solenoid) it took out the ECU with it. It's a lot of money to pay, but the improvement to the riding was wholly unexpected.
Since no machine is 100% reliable and trouble free, that means some number of bikes have to have problems(otherwise,they would be 100% reliable). Gobs of wiring and connections, switches and buttons only add to the possibilities. ,Unfortunately, your bike is one of them. Glad it was able to be diagnosed,and put back on the road. These bikes,and modern bikes in general are almost unbelievably dependable and are stone axe reliable, even as their complexity only continues to increase...Now it's time to wear out some tires...and get good at removing/replacing the plastic....
Just put a fuel pump in. Same day had to ECM in just to. Find out rt side front one & the midler injector and on left side midler injector is bad. On a 09 1800. It still not up run.
Well it is 🌞 day.
have bless year folks.
That all sounds very pricey. Yikes!
I had start no start issues in the past and it turned out to be loose battery terminals.
Exactly the same happened to me not long after I bought my wing. Had 2 extra earth terminals on battery negative pole so the extra thickness of the extra ring connectors was causing the standard battery bolt to thread in, but not far enough in and so it became loose, didn't fall out, just loose.
Had just returned home from a ride, all good throughout journey. turned bike off, 2 mins later turned back on, heard loud click as I hit starter, all power gone. It's not an uncommon issue from what I hear. Longer bolt was solution
That was about the first thing I checked. Everything appeared sound (and stock) but nevertheless I took the terminals off, cleaned them and re-assembled. Unfortunately this time the problem lay elsewhere.
@@fbglife sorry to hear that, but glad it's all fixed.
Yeah these bikes can be expensive. I road my 2018 in the rain for about 7 hours, and had gotten moisture in the headlight assembly.
Honda wants $ 2300.00 just for the assembly.
Not to mention labor , at $149.00/hr.
Lucky the bike is still under warranty , an Honda is paying the whole bill .
Happy trails to you in the U.K.
Yes we learnt very quickly what the parts cost too Michael! I'm glad this is being fixed for you though. Maybe some fair weather riding? :) Sarah
My wife just quipped "Probably the lightness of your wallet made it feel sportier". Ouch, lets hope that's the last non-routine bill.
You gotta laugh or you'll cry. Please thank your wife for making both Sarah & I laugh at her comment - I think she may be on to something there :)
An expensive fix, but if the bike is now fixed, it's worth every penny.
Couldn't agree more!
The modern Japanese motorcycles are so ridiculously expensive to fix because of all of the crap that they have on them now. With my 1965 Triumph TR6 I just have a headlight and a tail light. It has a Magneto ignition so I can lose all the electrics and the bike still runs. All the bikes was complicated systems on them are ridiculously expensive to fix to fix a BMW's ABS braking system cost $2,400. Most people just bypass it to save the cost and go back to regular breaks.
Yes, however they are awesome tuoring bikes.
I always knew that Goldwings are battery hungry. I put my on my battery optimiser 1 day before riding to get the battery back to full charge. This way, the alternator won't have to work so hard to crank that big amount of current to start the bike.
Battery hungry, fuel injector hungry and ecu hungry! They are worth it though, don't you think?
@@fbglife oh yes! With full power, starts up like a charm
Shame this did not happen in the first 3 months of ownership, then the dealership would have had to pay for. I took out a Honda Warranty for one year, until the bike was three years old. The alternator packed in after eight years.
I know, I know. We had to take this one on the chin.
Hi, I've enjoyed following you on the goldwing adventure so far. Did you get any warranty with the bike when you purchased it?
I was thinking the same 👍🏻
Hi Trevor, yes there was a short warranty with the bike but it expired just before this trouble showed itself. As you'd expect it would!
@@fbglife shame, glad it's fixed now. Look foward to seeing some more videos 👍
When you bought The bike ,didn’t you have warranty. ? Greetz from The netherlands. I bought my first wing when i was 20 years young a gl 1200 interstate now Iam 50 and still riding Goldwing a gl 1800 from 2002.
Hi Patrick, good to hear from you! The bike did have a short warranty with it but it expired just before this problem appeared.
@@fbglife oh no :(
@@fbglife wonder why it had a short warranty. Have you asked yourself that question yet.
Same warranty as every bike from the place we bought it
@@fbglife That's answered my question thanks. Hope it's now performing like wings are supposed to perform. Enjoying watching what you have been up to so far. 👍
I don't know what year your motorcycle is but gold wings have a belt driving the camshaft in the front of the engine if the belt is dry from age it can snap and the Pistons will kiss the valves and destroy the engine. Depending on the age of your bike I would recommend changing the belt Just For Peace of Mind.
Hi Frank, thanks for that but my bike is a 2014 and has timing chains, not belts.
@@fbglife the six-cylinder goings have timing change and not belts did not know that. There was a guy he had a video with a 1500 I think Goldwing six that he bought and he went on the Goldwing website and learns how to change the cam belt on it. They must have changed it. I am not so up on the newer bikes.
Yesterday I had my "6,000 mile service" on my 2022 BMW 1250 R/T... basically an oil change...$308.00...next time I do it myself was pissed off!
That stings! I'm sure the bike's worth it though. Is it?
@@fbglife It's pretty big for me but I can ride it good I just have to be really careful how I park...I'm used to doing my own mechanic work but keeping up on the warranty requires the "6,000 mile service" and not just an oil change...
Yeah, they get you like that!
Why didn't you get a warranty on that bike when you bought it? Sometimes it's a waste of money but in your case it wouldn't have been.
Hi Mo, yes there was a warranty with the bike but it expired just before this trouble showed itself. Yes, I would have guessed that an extended warranty would have been a waste of money. I gambled and I lost.
@@fbglife sorry to hear that. And sorry you had a problem with that wing. They are good bikes so I would imagine that will be the only problem you have. I have rode these 1800s for years with minor to no issues. Ride safe. 👍 and thanks for the reply
What speed are you riding at here ?
Around 50-60mph by the looks of it.
Best thing I ever did to my 06 GL1800 was to SELL IT a month ago. It was fun for a couple of years then I rode (and bought) a 2017 BMW R1200RT and the light switched on for me. THIS is what a touring motorcycle should be. Fast, agile, GREAT wind protection (Goldwing is horrible, honestly...helmet buffeting), brakes are superb, power to weight ratio far superior on just two cylinders...simply another level of motorcycling. Sorry to be debbie downer on the 'wing, but it's just too heavy and all that power is lost getting that weight moving and into a terribly designed transmission. First gear is worthless and only five gears? C'mon, Honda...get with it. The best things for the early GL1800's to improve them somewhat is the Traxxion dynamics front end and a Henry's final drive gear. It makes first gear usable and drops rpm's on the highway. The wing just wore me out in commuting use, whereas the BMW is inspiring and FUN....could ride all day and enjoy every second of it. Just my views on it. Best of luck to all Wing riders and stay safe out there.
Hi Brian, you're not being Debbie Downer - all opinions are welcome here!
Can I ask what the pillion experience is on the RT? How does it compare to the Goldwing?
reply is on your last video regards japan.
Thanks for the info on Japan 👍. We've wanted to go for a while but it never occurred to us we could do it by bike! Will look up the link for sure Sarah 👍
Buy a M/C is the easy part.
Riding and maintaining the beast is what costs $$$ or Pound Sterling.
Doesnt matter what brand they will always need some tlc, just like your wife or significant other.
You are so right. Even though they cost a packet and are a headache at times bikes are worth every penny, aren't they?
sea foam added to your gas maybe 3 times a year keeps engine clean
Thank you for that advice Mike. I've heard of Sea Foam but I've never used it - don't even know if I can get it in the UK. Anyone know??
hi john here what year is the goldwing
Hi John, it's a 2014.
@@fbglife saving for one also
Hopefully you won't have to wait too long. And hopefully you'll enjoy yours as much as we're enjoying ours!
Did the shop not give a warranty for the first 3months thought that was standard practice ,,watch eBay for views of people working on their machines,, get tips for removal of bodywork,, join the owners club,, valuable information for free ,more facts about the bike ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️ from northern Ireland 😁 service history seems important,,
They did give a warranty yes but of course it ran out before we needed it!
I can't help my Goldwing is a 1981
I suggest you to sell this one and go find a very good condition 1-3 yrs old one. The new models are better, and doing so your money is safer, you wont go any mechanics again. I am serious!
If we could afford a one year old Goldwing we would have bought one. I am serious.
The Honda mechanic said it was just bad luck (that one injector went). It was nothing to do with the age of the bike...
@@fbglife ok as you wish!
All that happened because of an expired battery.
you bought a Monday morning Goldwing??
Or maybe a Friday afternoon one? :)
Your lucky you had a good Honda dealership to take your bike to.
Yes, it's good to know we've got somewhere to rely on if we need to.