15" Apple MacBook Pro Review (2017, Kaby Lake)
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Lisa Gade reviews the 2017 15” MacBook Pro, Apple’s mid-2017 refresh with Intel 7th generation quad core i7 Kaby Lake CPUs and AMD Radeon Pro 5xx series graphics. The casing and core features are the same as the 2016 15” MacBook Pro we reviewed, and Apple has simply refreshed the CPU/GPU and tweaked the Butterfly keyboard. This is Apple’s largest and highest end laptop, with a price tag starting at $2,399 US.
The Mac has a 2880 x 1800 IPS wide gamut Retina display that’s still among the best on the market, and it has 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports, a super-sized trackpad and a classy aluminum unibody design. It ships with Mac OS Sierra and Apple’s iWork and iLife suite of programs. As ever, it weighs 4 lb. / 1.83 kg, making it one of the lightest 15” notebook computers on the market and it’s remarkably thin at 15.5mm. We benchmark the Mac in macOS Sierra and Windows 10 to see how much performance has improved from the 2016 Skylake model.
your reviews are so clear and detailled thank you
Yes, Lisa Gade is a worthy CZcams tech legend!
even with the new upgrades.. it doesn't pull me in to upgrade from my mid 2014 model... which has more ports and a bigger battery.
999CATZ same here. Still using the 2015 one.
I'm not upgrading since 2009 :)
its the same reason for me to subscribe to their channel.
Love your videos Lisa! Always informative and helpful! Thank you!
You're welcome :)
MobileTechReview when 13 mbp ?
13 inch macbook pro review please
Gosh love this lady… always knows what I am thinking about Macbook
Thank you Lisa, it was driving me absolutely crazy about breaking the bank and getting the 13 inch, but you made me realize this will be a huge waste of money. I'll wait another year to see if Apple comes to their senses and just get a cheap PC laptop. I'll take the rest of the money and save for a used car!!
great review i have the 2016 MacBook Pro with touch bar . still have no regrets despite kabylake being a little faster
why would anyone insult me?
Michael Howard because people are jealous pathetic losers on the internet 😜
i did an unboxing of it on my channel admittedly not the best unboxing
this is why we have people over the age of 30 still living at home . we live in a consumer age where owning a 3,000$ laptop is more important than puting that cash towards a down payment on a home. it's not even the consumers fault. the world is so tech driven that we all depend on it and need it. Lisa's videos are amazing, I've watched all of them, but I cringe at all the price tags.
Hugely agree, the greed of this country and especially apple has gone to the shits.
wrong, is more that normal people with average incomes try to live in a world where they don't belong, apple is a luxury brand, just like you don't rush to get the new rolex model, or the new maserati, but people haven't realized.
Who says owning a house is a good investment? The market for owning a house is terrible.
I took your advice and brought back my 13 inch and picked up the 15 inch MacBook Pro 2017. I wanted that 16 GB and the bigger screen is very nice. Thankfully, I bought it at Best Buy and had 45 days to make up my mind. Thank you again. Thumbs up on your wonderful videos.👍👍
The reason why I actually appreciate channels like DetroitBorg and this one is becuase they give honest reciew explaining the pros and cons of these device but still support why it is usable
Talk about brand consistency and clarity of message, tone and voice - literally. Lisa gives invaluable insights from detailed tests and most importantly - her emotional experience. Just what you need to make a buying decision. Thank you Mobile TechReview.
I got the exact same one for $1000 a month ago and then I sent it to Apple to replace the keyboard under keyboard recall program, so Apple replaced the whole top along with batteries! I love this Macbook Pro and its working perfectly!
My kidney only sells for 1200.
I'm watching this on my 2016 15" MacBook Pro and I love it!!. I do not regret buying it.
I currently have a 2015 rMBP and have been trying to find reviews about this. I just watched your review on the 2016 version last night to kind of get an idea but now you've posted this! Many thanks for getting this up so quickly!
The best of your channel is this: The presentation of the product, straight info, honest opinion and a great level of detail (without being a Statistic videos. Great job!
Lisa has the best reviews ever, and she actually responds to questions by email asap
That T-shirt is amazing!
I watch a lot of reviews and your offer with out doubt the best, clearest and most detailed around. Thank you again for your unbiased perspective.
The 5-GPUs are essentially rebadged 4-series cards (with slightly higher memory clocks about 2% better performance), but the GPU selections have been shifted down.
Base configuration goes from the 550 to old midrange 555 and the high-end config gets the old build-to-order 560.
I had to replace my 2009 17" MacBook Pro this year (thanks in part to being able to upgrade it over the years), and I just couldn't justify the cost for the latest iteration of the MacBook Pro. I tried one out, wasn't a big fan of the keyboard, and really didn't see much use with the touch bar. I ended up getting a Thinkpad P50, which thus far has been working out great. Kind of bummed that I had to leave Apple, but the Windows transition wasn't as bad as I had expected.
Wonderful review as always Lisa!
Andrew Palmer transition to windows is so bad for me! Um… so i ended up selling my mbp 15 2013 and mb 12" and buy this…
Well I hope you're enjoying your new mbp! I'm not the sort of person who'd condemn someone if they like their purchase. I guess I should also mention that my purchase was also because I was looking for a mobile workstation replacement, and things like portability aren't as high a priority for me as it is for rendering lots of things, and running virtual machines.
I'm thinking of replacing my 2010 17" MacBook Pro as well. Love the screen size, though. Definitely not looking at the MacBook Pros anymore as the cheapest one you can get is CAD $1900 and is a clamshell.
2015 model is much nicer imo, bought one and its not really much different in terms of performance with the new one
I made the switch too. It was all good for a couple of months. Now, I'm regretting it. I'm going back though
I had the Macbook pro 15 for a while and i loved the track pad!! almost never used a mouse. Returned it for an Alienware 17 with GTX1070. needed more power and windows for specific apps i needed to use
I remember how people were saying they should wait for this and turns out all you got was a new processor you didn't get the 32gb of ram option people kept saying you should wait for. glad I didn't wait.
YOU are such a tech nerd, love it, your reviews are the only ones i watch and half the stuff you review i dont even care about and end up buying! Keep up the good work LG!
Can you review the 13' without the touch bar please?
For no particular reason at this moment I just have to say thank you again for your brilliant reviews. If there were a Pulitzer or a Peabody for these things I don't think there's any question that you'd be collecting them with both hands. Clear, engaging, focused, and you enthrall me with reviews of things I'll never have or want. That's the true test. Thanks!
In Australia the 15-Inch came down around $100AUD but still expensive at $3499 and $4099.
Please review the 13 in MacBook Pro.
its pretty much the same
LoliLord theyve got diff specs and battery life
I recently upgraded from the 13" 2017 MacBook pro with TouchBar to the high end quad core 15" 2017, and for some reason i think the 13" display was way brighter than the 15". Maybe i'm wrong but it seems that way to me.
Hello from Brazil. =)
Yes, if you're outside the US the prices get crazy high. That's why I'm sticking with my Early 2015, full-spec Macbook Pro. And thank God I was able to buy it when I lived up there.
Awesome reviews, Lisa! Been a subscriber for over a year now and you've yet to make a single bad video!
I only do heavy duty tasks at home and want portability the rest of time so Dongles stay on my desk, just how I like it. Thumbs up, again!!
If it had better battery life (and for the price point I want DDR4 RAM) I'd love a MacBook Pro 15. I'll stick to my Asus for now and leave the laptop upgrade for next year.
Apparently they're coming up with a huge revamp in the next year or so.
You and Marcus are my go to reviewers on any Tech...you are well spoken and very knowledgeable!!! Thank you for your reviews and hardwork!!!
Please review the Acer Predator Helios 300 with the GTX1060 - A detailed comparison between it and the VX15 and the Acer Predator 15 would be very welcomed as Acer seems determined to own the lower cost 'gamer'/productivity niche...
13 inch model video, please!
JollyJeepers i
the top stock build has gone down in Australia by about $300 which is nice, still $4099 though which is a lot of cash for something that crashes everytime you unplug an external monitor, close lid and then try to open the lid again (13" w/TB and 15")
I don't understand why there's no channel that compared the 13" touch bar vs no touch bar. There's a $500 difference. But aside from the touch bar, it also have a better cpu and a larger ssd.
Great review Lisa, but it looks like you are comparing the 2016 MBP w/ AMD 455 with the 2017 w/ AMD 560. The proper comparison would be the 2016 MBP w/ AMD 460, which had a Firestrike score that was almost exactly the same as the 560. I think the difference between the 460 and 560 was literally 1.86 Teraflops vs 1.90 Teraflops for the 560. Both are 14nm, and they are literally within about 2% of each other.
yep, it would be nice to have a look at the 13" as well :)
this is the best no nonsense review I've seen. this is mkbhd level.
She keeps saying Kaby lake was available when they shipped the 2016 version but it wasn't. Kaby lake for windows was available but wasn't released for MacBooks until march 2017. So really apple was quite in the ball with upgrading straight away
You are wonderful, all the info I wanted delivered in a way that balances clear facts and personal opinion, thank you so much!
Need the 13"--lots of my work is done on trains, buses, taxis. So would appreciate a review.
I was never worried that Kaby Lake will provide a big difference when ordering the 2016 model last fall. Typical Intel lackluster CPU upgrade.
Dongle life is actually not a big deal. TB3 displays, USB-C cables to external disks make life easy. The only dongles I use is a USB-C to USB-A for an older USB hub (I could also just change the cable here) and rarely a USB-C to HDMI 2.0 adapter.
I LOVE the giant trackpad on my 2016 tMBP and likewise I love love love the keyboard. It is so responsive to me and nothing like the regular MacBook (not MBP) keyboard.
I'll hold out for an LPDDR4 version with a 32GB option and better GPU. All of which might make next year's version the biggest spec bump in a long time for the MacBook Pro!
Beat videos in the bizz. You are awesome Lisa can't wait for your iMac Pro review. 👍
i've been using my 2016 MBP for several months now and, other than the noise maybe, i don't get the hate on the keyboard. it's the fastest laptop keyboard i've ever used. I also really like the trackpad. The touchbar is fairly worthless though.
I got a 2016 with 2.9ghz and the 460 graphics and 1tb HD on sale. Could’ve gotten the 2017 with the 2.9ghz, 560 graphics, and a 512gb HD for $200 more but I figured it's not much faster and I'd rather have more storage for $200 less. Not worried about it in the least
In my country(uruguay) cost 3090 US dollars the 13" MacBook Pro 2016 with touchbar base model.
Juan Matias Imbellone why don't you come to U.S buy it. All the traveling expense is still cheaper than buying in Uruguay. You can buy 3 or 4 and sell it in your country to make a profit
Apple hates its "pro" users now. This laptop is an insult to the people who it's (in theory) marketed towards.
Recently bought the 2016 model, so thanks for your opinion on that front, Lisa.
$300 for that extension is crazy. Especially when last gen had many of the extra ports.
Great build quality as usual however!
Your videos are the best! I'm finally taking the dive and getting the 2016 version and this video makes me sure it's the right decision money wise. Thank you so much!
go for maxed out 2015 15" MBP ... and upgrade when TB3.0 accessories are everywhere ....
Review the 13 inch base and touch bar models, and see the disparity between the two different i7's!!!
You really know your stuff, its hard to find great reviews like this these days!
I think your reviewing style has improved.
Really great video.
Lisa is the Champions League of reviews.
Great Review. Could you review the updated MacBook and MacBook air, please? I think i'm leaning towards a less expensive model.
What I want in the 2018 refresh: 1 legacy USB 3 port, an SD card slot, an Nvidia graphics card, lower price.
I'm a fan of this shorter duration reviews :)
They did change the keyboard!!!..some other evidence rather than the feel of the actual keys are the symbol above the option key has changed from (alt) to something else idk, and they have added a symbol above the control key as well.
keep up the good work Lisa. love watching your videos
Lisa you're so inspirational! Thank you for the quality and time you spend on your videos!
I always watch your reviews, they are really good. Keed it up! Also, a revieew of the 13" MacBook Pro isn't a bad idea...
The base line 15 inch starts at 2.799€ in my country and that's around 3133 dollars, might as well buy a second hand car for that kind of money.
Honestly that's like double the price I'm willing to spend on a laptop
I never thought i liked trackpads because i only used them with laptops, and the placement below the keyboard is not comfortable...having one hand on the keyboard and the other on the trackpad just doesn't work in that configuration. After i got the 2015 imac i did so with the magic trackpad 2, and using the trackpad on the side of the keyboard rather than below it makes all the difference....i don't think i could ever go back to a mouse at this point....
"dongle hell" I'm stealing that!!
Yet another outstanding review!
Great video Lisa. Mine will be here Tuesday. Love the shirt BTW.
They should make the trackpad a touch screen display it's so big
Your reviews are ABSOLUTELY the best.
13INCH MODEL REVIEW PLEASE!
teitake Here is your 13" review. Same as 15" only smaller, the end.
I want Lisa to do it. Thanks but no thanks.
The 13 inch model is almost the same, but you only have 2 ports, not 4. Of course, there are differnces in available configurations, especially with graphics. I personnally prefer the 13" form factor for portability, but if you are going to be using this at a desk most of the time, go witht the 15".
Let's hear about the 13" too, please. And maybe the Lenovo Thinkpad Yoga gen 2 OLED?
Please do review the 13 inch base model with no touch bar. That's what I'm inclined to buy very soon
Luv your reviews and info so informative, and explained in a easy to understand way x
Love your shirt, Lisa! I never made that connection until now...
I really dig your review videos. Always really thorough and seemingly honest opinions on every detail. I work in video for live AV events so I have to know both Windows and Mac well enough. I'm glad you mentioned bootcamp since I plan on buying my first Mac and still have to use a few Windows software programs.
Still own a rMBP 15" from Mid 2014 (Core i7 16GB RAM) and probably wont be upgrading any time soon. But I've been thinking on buying an Ultrabook with Windows from LG, Dell or Microsoft when the time comes cause I'm not liking the huge trackpad and that crappy keyboard. Still prefer my current rMBP over the newest models.
Nice videos Lisa I really like your reviews. Greetings from Puerto Rico!
Please compare the 13 inch 2017 non-tb with tb. According to geekbench the NON-TB model outperforms the TB model for some reason.
Turbo on high-end 15 inch is up to 4.1ghz.more than an i7 7700.Well done,apple,well done.
Prices actually dropped by $100 here in Australia, not much, but still better than nothing
macOs is old in its operation. They really need to update the window management and features to get closer to the competition. It really feels 10 years old
It's 3299€ in the Netherlands (3 693$) and with some options like the fastest cpu and a 2Tb drive, it will cost you a whopping 5k€
Lisa is THE best reviewer EVER
Still on the fence about ditching my 2013 rMBP for one of these babies...I'd really miss MagSafe and I'm unsure about that keyboard and not looking forward to purchase yet more dongles. Still, it's undeniably some impressive piece but of kit. Nice review!
Could you do a 27 iMac vs MacBook Pro comparison? Specifically how well the two stack up against each other editing 4K footage.
Haha! This review came faster than I expected. A very honest critique as always. Thanks Lisa.
Best reviewer ever! Logical yet not boring 😁
It's funny that the updated MacBook Pros and iMacs are available before the iPad Pros
Awesome video, and yes!! A 13 inch review please!! Cheers🙌🥇
Not a very fair comparison, as the 2016 in your tests mounts a 455, not a 460 radeon, and you are comparing it with the 560, not the 555. Nice video though.
Great video Lisa, just bought the 2,399 dollar model!
You might have gotten a poorly quality-controlled keyboard on the 2016. I bought and returned a few due to minor defects and it was a crapshoot how clicky and consistent the 2016's keyboard was.
I love your reviews and unbiased information and opinion. I like to know where do you get your shirts they are awesome.
could you maybe do an in-depth video about using it for gaming >w>?
Thanks for warning us about the dongles that would have to go along with a MacBook Pro. I am presently a Windows user and am consider switching over to Mac given the extent of satisfaction I have seen my friends' have while using their own MacBooks, whether they are Pros or not. But the jump for this 15-inch (which is a size I have gotten used to) MacBook Pro is enormous. I cannot fathom paying 4x the price of other comparable Windows laptops presently existing in the market.
Another brilliant review, thanks Lisa. Will you be doing the Lenovo X1 Yoga G2 2017 anytime soon?
I can't say no to anything this lady says. It just seems so honest and true and like a mom wanting only good for her son
it would be so helpful if u do a product review for the new Dell Inspiron 7560...