For Honor - EARLY ACCESS - Varangian Guard Framecheck - ANTI BIG HITBOX HERO
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- čas přidán 30. 01. 2024
- Thanks to Ubisoft for the Early Access.
Here's a quick analysis of the new hero and what she's capable of.
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they should give her a voiceline where she whispers in your ear that it's going to be okay
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Coward, i want her to hurt me more
No tf?
So cents one execution lol
I had thought this character's full block would be the first to counter zones.
Good thing, too. One Berzerker zone with that T1 and the whole enemy team would have been fully healed.
but wait, if it works on zones, then it will stop his zone after first hit, no ?
@@TheConCarlos yeah he's saying that it will stop beserkers first zone hit otherwise the varangian hero's feats would break team fights
@@mastergrief7793 oh, you're right, thanks. Now I get it
Just a quick note, you can 100% backstep crushing counter with this character, but the right side light is a little bit less reliable. Maybe because the sup block window is 300ms on openers instead of the usual 200ms, that lets you CC earlier, which might allow you more backwards movement? Either way, the backstep light will whiff and be unparriable if the opponent feints, will hit a feint to GB, and unlike some characters (eg. Kyoshin), if you successfully CC an incoming attack, the light will never whiff (in our testing at least). Because she has recovery cancels into full block and chain CC lights, these backstep lights are super safe as well, only reliably being punished with your own CC light, a deflect (top guard only), or punishing the recovery with a quick bash.
it didn't work in Montreal when we tested... interesting
Always appreciate the content, looking forward to more with the Varangian Guard.
Finally, I can play kyoshin without playing kyoshin. Jokes aside, her peel seems like fun, and finally there's a counter to externals
Any character with CC properties can fight off externals. Highlander, Warlord, BP even Afeera been doing it for a long time now.
@@acid1787 That is true, but Varangian's fullblock/counter stance is omnidirectional unlike CC lights and gives a guaranteed 360° counter on all enemies that hit you. A little less strong than BP's but it looks to me as if it'll be more generally applicable and easier to hit perhaps.
I would like to see fullblocks in general get stronger against off target/external shenanigans. Too many fullblocks are finnicky against all the dodge cancels and enhanced attacks, not to mention some character like medjay just hyper armor trade for higher damage.
3:05 This sentence is actually accurate, I wasn't aware you could even dodge the headbutt though I did suspect it since the guaranteed light after a chain heavy seemed a little dubious, prompting me to look up her moveset
So thanks for the explanation ^^
I don't feel like all of her block stance followups really provide as much value as they should, since you can't fast flow on defense. You have to have some form of advantage or guess from neutral to really pull it off. The light and heavy are fine, it's the zone and bash that don't really meet the standard.
I'd like if her zone from the all block stance had armor at least, and if her gut bash from the block did like 10 damage.
Either that or give her some window to fast flow during a blockstun gap. A lot of enders are unblockable anyways, but at least you'd be able to catch external heavy mixups from neutral or end berserker's combo if you blocked the zone and could fast flow block the light followup.
Thanks freeze!
What program do you use to frame check the attacks ?
How is she not screaming in your video? In game shes ridiculously loud
Just wish she had hyper armor on her full block zone at least. Worried she’s just gonna get knocked out of all of her counters in team fights.
Her entire kit is revolving around superior block, so the zones are, unfortunately, an afterthought. Everything is going to be CC-Light/Full Guard into UB Heavy, sprinkled with bashes.
You can CC with her allguard light, and you can feint the allguard heavy.
0:32 you said it lasts for 300ms after 100ms. That means it lasts till 400ms yet it seemed like you were implying it ends at 300ms by showing a freeze-frame at 300ms. I did confirm on for honor info hub and it says it ends at 400ms.
Out of the last 5 Hero's released, 4 of them have infinites...
Why?
BROOOOO she has so awesome lines, as a Greek im very happy, tfu as A Hellinas im very happy, too bad its gender locked which is nonsense
That's not so bad, right? Big hitboxes have been extremely desirable in Dominion since, well, pretty much the beginning, and at times have been meta-defining. Another hero like Black Prior with a tool to specifically counterplay them does do a little bit of counterbalancing.
Will it help small hitbox heroes enough to become viable? Perhaps not, but it seems like a healthy thing regardless.
And then jj throws an unblockable😅
That's why you always get someone to play BP.
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Marco how do you feel that this is the first heavy without bastion or vengeful barrior and the second viking without funny flask or rage?
@@Sephiroth69 perfectly fine w/ it. Not every viking needs the same feats (especially fury flask lmao), not every heavy needs the same perks. This hero is more of a support than a tank anyways.
@@MarcoYoloGreat take.
@@MarcoYoloDon't know why they didn't just keep with the trend of "every hero released since Y4S4 has been a hybrid" thing. I mean, she's practically a Hybrid as is. 😅
I don’t like the bash 300-500ms for bash startup because to me it always felt clunky. I thought maybe 200ms would be a good middle ground for being able to start the bash
It’s gonna feel clunky cause we are used to something else. Shinobi used to have 200 and it wasn’t awful at all
NEVER apaologize for a "late" posting! I would have waited 6 months and still watched the video 😁😁😁
Her fashion and executions are amazing but her kit is so limited..... it's good that her lights are enhanced at least.
Anyway, I would like to thank you for all your work in bringing us information. It's thanks to you that I figured out the revenge tag system, heh.
Obviously it's a new hero and will take time to get use to, but what are everyone's thoughts so far fighting the hero?
I think giving her double crushing counter lights and superior block dodge attacks was a bit too much when considering she also have a full guard.
I was playing nuxia a lot yesterday, and while I'm use to my offense not being respected on that character lol, there is literally no reason a Varangian needs to respect anyone's offense. Literally just cc and dodge on red and you'll probably counter them.
What do you all think?
Just abit boring. Nothing too insane from what I've experienced so far
She supposed to be a support character but shes like the star of the show atm
Im so sick and tired of these copy paste legion kick openers, its the 19th one now in a cast of 34. Her kit looks cool otherwise
ye, she sadly has very little to offer from neutral
i thought the pirate type opener was pretty different and decent but if they're just gonna get rid of the soft feint gb and negate its whole purpose then I guess there is no point.
They can be so much more creative.
Her kit? You mean heavy finisher 6000 times?
I can already tell that a week following her release the all guard stunning for so long and it stoping zone attacks will be nerfed
for me, it's really hard to get use to her block, I know it's like aramushas but still.... why is it like this? XD (I am used to conq and BP so this is pretty hard to get use to XD)
anyone care to tell me what time she'll be available? After serves maintenance ?
Tomorrow
Feeling neutral about her, but that full block pose is a bit jarring to look at in my opinion.
Really sad that she cant flow into full block from a regular block. That always makes characters more fun to play
Why didn't they just make all her finisher heavies 900ms for 28 damage? Seems pretty pointless to have these current speed values when Pirate Skewers exist... 🤷♂️
What do you mean she
Old Conqueror but Gender-Lock. Looks interesting
Does her pin stop hyper armor?
I don't imagine so, no other pins (Cent, Glad, etc.) do
Overall seems like a pretty fair but strong hero imo
Character looks like a good time, now if you'll excuse me, I must go to the altar of JC and pray for single pick.
This lizards are babies
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I wish the devs would just come out with for honor 2 instead of constantly adding new characters
I’m so Fucking excited for her she looks so fun
BP main? ugh.
Was super excited for another viking hero but I can't say i am not a little disappointed, was hoping to see something a little more interesting than a hero with a ton of superior lights and an all guard, in ganks it feels like she is going to be super oppressive since you get to eat shit if you attack her all guard and in duels she is gonna be frustrating since it is yet another character with superior lights.
Perhaps it is just me but in a normal play session I get hit by superior lights accidentally atleast every other match, having a defensive ability on a fast attack is just fundamentally a bad idea. accidentally getting rewarded because you hit light in the same direction as your opponent 100ms after they did is ridiculous. We had this issue before with deflects where a person just spam dodging things may get rewarded with a deflect by accident, so it required an imput to function, yet they continue with this "rewarded for luck" system with superior lights.
Style and coolness she is up there, but im really not looking forward to her being added tomorrow.
#thankyoufreeze
What are her alternate feats?
Alternate Feats
Tier 1 - Body Count, Speed Revive
Tier 2 - Thick Skin, Thrilling Comeback
Tier 3 - Punch Through, Protected Revive
Tier 4 - Regenerate, Stalwart Banner
Perks (if you are interested) - Radiant Rebound, Remedy, Feline Agility, Supersonic, Clever Tactics, Rising Dawn, Rapid Refresh
@@SwatIntellect she’s a heavy without defensive perks? Interesting, thanks
I can imagine your pain when you noted that buffered dodge attacks can avoid gb after finisher heavies. 😔
Yeah but remove Highlander right?
What doesn't she have?
neutral offense
another Casino hero, nice For Gamble getting more gambling machines
Freeze can you tell the devs to give her fury, fireflask, and defensive perks. It feels like she was a hybrid that had the heavy title slapped on her so they wouldn't get backlash.
cooked
maybe its about time they removed the meaningless flavor text, classes literally dont matter outside orders at this point idk why people are so stuck up on them
She has a 2 hit chain with no midchain bash how is she a hybrid
Perks aside, the hero she resembles the most is easily Black Prior. The heavy identity seems sound and appropriate here.
dude they should be removing fury flask instead of adding it to more heroes
Looks like a knight to me
Tee hee funny pin
Annoying vocals for this hero
HELLO, NEW MAIN!! Anyone else feeling the Varangian Guard?! I sure as hell am!
Still need Ubi to explain to me, slowly, why they made Varangian female instead of male (as History (even fictional History) most often dictates).
Well For Honor isn't meant to be historically accurate
One of the things I don't like about heavy characters is that they have Dodge attacks
I mean you need to punish bashes somehow, since not all bashes can be gb’d?
once again tapping my "a hero will not get me to reinstall if they have unblockable pins & infinitely-chaining unreactable bash mixups" sign. i appreciate that the fullblock has a fixed timing & requires -- well, timing. but come on ubisoft have some restraint
We are living in an era crossplay with PC and new gen users. You need unreactable stuff if you don’t wanna get parried all the time online.
@@vapor_snake920 there were other words before & after that word
@@tabula_rosa yeah and? It still sounds like you dislike unreactable things
Just a worse BP
Hope its isnt sex lock
It is
@@SwatIntellect fuck
Stupid hero this game has turned into shit
This game sucks hard
Just like your sister
@@j.l.3685😂👏
@@j.l.3685 nice pfp, trying to show your redditor side on youtube as well?
For honor is dead since the end of year 3.
Bait used to be believable
I'm sorry but we've waited so friggin long for a new OG faction hero and that's what we get?
I'm disappointed. It's Warlord but female I mean. Come on.
This char so weak man 😂😂😂😂😂 she'll be a joke no post blocking superior guard 😂😂😂😂 antigang hero lacks anti ganging mechanisms 🤣🤣🤣 dead game 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱
Lmao
So why are you here then fool