Ricoh GR III - Why Do Some People HATE It 🤔
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00:00 I STILL LOVE IT & Sample Images
00:13 It's NOT for everyone because it FITS A CERTAIN STYLE
00:54 "AUTOFOCUS SUCKS?"
02:11 "BATTERY LIFE SUCKS?"
04:23 "DUST ISSUE"
05:11 "FILM SIMULATION IS POINTLESS?"
06:06 Support the Channel! Listen to this!
Seriously though, how tf did Ricoh ran out of stock?? They just released the Diary Edition in April!! 😭
Demand for these cameras is pretty strong
Ricoh / Pentax have always been big on the limited editions to keep sales moving without fundamental redesigns (expensive to engineer). If we're lucky though, it points to them focusing on production for a GR IV...
I do not hate that camera, I just do NOT like it ! Too flimpsy and too expensive.
I just purchased the street edition direct from Ricoh and it shipped within 3 days. I do know the B&H's / Adorama's of the world are backordered.
Hey man. Could you please suggest a camera for a beginner?
These are the real life experiences we need instead of soulless specs :)
I have the GR1 and the GRiiix. I just got back from a camping trip to the American Southwest. For 2 weeks I used them hiking in all kinds of weather and environments with no problems. I am not a street photographer, but used these cameras as my EDC.
For dust, put a small shop vac hose up to the lens assembly while the camera is off. Itll suck out all the dust the same way it went in. Just to be safe and protect the camera, keep a thumb over the a small portion of the lens assembly so the suction doesnt force the lens to extend out.
Hey Jason...YOU MADE ME BUY THIS CAMERA!!....and quite frankly, I like it :D I bought it for my trip to Seoul and tried some recipes. While I didn't had much time to test out the recipes, I just stuck with one that gave a smooth, silky picture. Like Jason said folks, this camera isn't for everyone. But so far..I'm really happy with it. Thanks for the video! Do your thang Jason, do your thang. :P
I have a Ricoh GRIII Diary Edition preordered and your videos have been so helpful in deciding to get it. I love the pocketable size and ability to use it casually, none of those concerns bother me like you brought up since if I need professional stuff I’ll just use my Sony’s 😉
oh snaps! I hope it's gonna get fulfilled. When did you order? It's even sold out in Japan
I'm just about to buy one of these and your shots really helped make up my mind, great video dude!
Excellent video, very honest. Re the dust issue, all of my mirrorless cameras have a little dust, even with dust removal systems. However, it doesn't really show up until F8 or F11, and is dependent on subject and scene. Crowd scenes? Hard to find the dust. Blue skies? Easy to find the dust. So, I plan on buying the Ricoh. If the dust ever shows up in a blue sky, I will clone it out. Not a perfect situation, but it would not keep me from purchasing, as the positives seem to outweigh the negatives. By the way, I rented a GR III for a week, and Jason is right---the images are wonderful.
My kit for street in Japan is the 28mm and 40mm versions - one in each pocket. I have an EDC sling bag that fits both cameras, 6 batteries, the 3x charger, and spare SD cards. The entire kit is TINY. LIGHT. The days lugging my Nikon DSLR and a few Nikkors around in a backpack are WAY over. Thanks for your thoughts. Snap focus is awesome and the IQ of the files are fabulous.
I debated hard about getting the GRIIIx... if only they have an 85mm equivalent. 28+85 would be the dream combo for me!
I got the same 28mm and 40mm, love these cameras, as u say light and not a burden. Only problem is i got another 5 ricohs different models at home, got a bit greedy. Some of my best shots have been on these cameras.
Nice video! Yes,I would like to see more Ricoh GR iii videos. I have it and it goes with me everywhere. To have an APSC sensor and IBIS in a camera smaller than my phone, that’s remarkable! The only thing I wish it had is weather sealing. That’s it! Thanks!
Great video!!! More GR III !!!
Idk how anyone could hate it. Ricoh is just doing it's own thing and having fun. It's like seeing that one kid in school reading outside and picking on them. 😂
We have enough enormous DSLR looking cameras, guys. Let us have at least one.
I've had multiple GRs. Had to return a few and two bit the dust. Really my only problem. I've had bad luck with durability of them. It's always the lens motor getting stuck and being really laggy. Other than that, it's a great camera for what it is.
@@chrisathanasiadisphoto Same here and the Ricoh-service is absolutely lousy
Got mine, and YES, would like to see more videos on this camera.
Thank you. I sold my gr3 earlier in the year because it was just annoying and I worried it would break if I dropped it when I go hiking or do outdoorsy stuff which is my primary use case for a camera.
Hi Jason, I am travelling solo and would like to kind of replace the iPhone selfies with self-portraits with some bokeh (that still kind of gives away say that I am in front of Eifell). I am already planning to buy the Sigma 18-50 f2.8 lense, and this will be my only prime. I will be using Sony A6100 APSC camera. Which prime lense will you recommend?
Thanks! Definitely enjoying these GR III reviews so please do more. Trying to get my hands on one but backordered everywhere right now. Have you tried this with a flash?
thank you for the super!! I haven't tried with flash yet sadly but I did pick up a 21mm adapter and loving it!
Could you do a tutorial with this camera on how to do those highlight weighted metering where the photos are really black/white in the shadows and light?
Jason (or anyone else!). Do you have any info on when the next model will come? I really love this camera and strongly consider of getting one at some point...
@4:00" - Have you tried any of the external viewfinders? I know keeping the display off with a cold-shoe finder is one approach to point-shoot composing with the GRs.
I haven't tried! I watched couple of Samuel Streetlife's videos and he said he got the EVFs but largely still shot without looking through them
I just got this camera and the autofocus was the first thing I noticed. Still trying to decide if I’ll keep it or not.
Great overview of the camera from personal use. A camera definitely on my wishlist. Trying to hold out for whatever replaces the current model. 😄
I'm excited to see what the GR IV will bring!
I am convinced! I am about to pick up a used one in mint condition. Hope there is no issues. I am long time hoping to get a X100V and even X100F but the price went really up for weird hype reason. Your Jpegs really look great and of course the composition as well. Thanks for the video!
People should take time to get used to the Ricoh GR series it took me 3 months to appreciate it and know how to use the GR3x. I missed the EVF in the beginning, now i use my gr as Ricoh intended it. Colours are fantastic and the film sims really are an asset. In body stab is functional as is the build in filter.
I use the Leica Q and Fuji XT30ii too, but the GR3x is the only one that really fits in my pocket :)
Yeah I can see how it can take some time to build up appreciation. I went in knowing some of the shortcomings so I had a great head start!
@@JasonVong one thing though about the battery life. If you use it as your edc it is excellent (quick shot a day) if you want to use it for a day of intensive shooting... It gets narly
Yes more Ricoh videos!
Where do you all find recipes for the GR series?
2:30 “C’mon what do you expect “..
😂😂😂
I'm still struggling whether to get a GR III or IIIx. i like to shoot well, street photos of course but i also carry my EDC items (like knuckle, pouch, patches, knife etc) out and shoot as well. I'm still thinking 28mm might fit me more. Or i should wait for GR IV releasing next year? 😅
I just ordered the 28mm, because with the sensor at 24MP you can easily crop in to 40mm and not notice a difference. So rather have the information, and crop, than feel you cannot get further back was my idea ;)
Are you going to drop the film simulation/recipe :)
Any decent camera store in Tokyo that you go to?
I bought it last year to replace my iPhone "camera" so I don't run out of space and I love to edit and my fuji is just too big sometimes for my daily use with my toddler and the reason I barely use it was because I could not get it to focus!! omg pretty much everything you said here was my reason for not using it as much as I intended to. I started using it again this year because it saved up for it and I feel bad not using it 🤣 then I actually love it when I got clear shots!
I bought GR3 street. I’m on the fence on the compact camera. Probably need to use it more and understand it better. I feel the screen doesn’t display the quality of the photos well. But once I load the file into my computer they look a lot better. I enjoyed changing color to blk/wht. This camera has pretty good latitude ti bring out the tones. BTW, are your sample photos processed or straight from the camera. They looked good to me. 👍
straight out of camera with custom recipes!
I recently sold all my camera gear and now only uses my iPhone 14 Pro for all my fotography needs. Surprisingly, I'm not missing my previous gear (mostly). Using a pro camera app + ProRes and ProRAW, I'm really feeling this might really be the ideal camera platform for most people going forward.
DUDE!!! I love your texture packs for Zelda!! Never thought I'd see your name on my video!!
No
Are you still thinking the same? I personally sold my gr3 to fund the iPhone purchase which I don’t regret as a phone, but as a camera… I think the very fine details and optical rendering of the iPhones are trash compared to the gr. I mean… it’s a smartphone with a tiny lens filled with plastic lens elements after all. Colours are washed out, micro contrast is a joke, edges are blurry so they bake in the sharpness filters to the raw files, and it takes at least 2 minutes to remove the excess sharpening from each photo in LR mobile, whereas the gr you could save the sharpness settings. I don’t believe you can even tweak the sharpness in any 3rd party iOS camera app either - correct me if I’m wrong - Please!
it is doable for scenery and such but when it comes to shooting people that are more than few meters in distance phone becomes a problem people look like specs and quality is not so great but it can be used as it is convenient
Can you share the recipe you use?
haha @ 2:37 "I don't have to think about oh how havy the camera is weighing me down" 😁
The Macro mode on this camera is handy. And 28 mm is wonderful for everyday photos. The only thing that I miss from other cameras is the weather seal. Hopefully one day there will be a waterproof GR.
Macro mode is something I haven't used very often! Kinda forgot about it! However, I did pick up an 21mm ultrawide converter! Have a Love/Hate relationship with that right now 😅
@@JasonVong I rarely pick up my bigger cameras after having my GR3. It's not the fastest lens, and I often wish it could zoom like rx100 vii. However, the quick startup time and snap focus are just unbeatable. Before GR, my everyday camera was an old Olympus XA. With the film price going up, GR makes sense. I haven't tried the converters yet as they make the whole setup much bigger. I am looking forward to seeing your next video!
Damn, didn't know this camera had hate! I'm still on my GRii and I love it to bits!
Sir please tell me pros and cons if I use full frame lens on aps-c camera ?
It's also $1k vs lugging around $2k body and multiple $1k lens. Much better for situations where breakage or theft could be a real possibility.
3:51 - Yes, that is an accurate depiction of how it feels when you master the GR 😂Nice video man! It's cool seeing you have fun with the GR :)
the man the myth the legend!! I learned everything about the GR III from you and Lukasz!!
Brother please kindly review Xperia 1 m5 camera I can't wait to see it🙏❤
This is by far the greatest travel camera ever made.
you won't be allowed in when Vivienne and I go for a X100V walk. 👀 loljk the SOOCs look great!!
*packs A7IV, Sony 70-200 2.8, tripod, and flash*
GF: Where are you going?
Me: To get some ice cream.
🤣🤣🤣
I would like Ricoh to bring the built in flash back, it’s handy for urban exploring to capture graffiti in shaded areas or the textures in a pedestrian tunnel. I keep the old Ricoh GXR A12 for that very reason. The lenses on the Ricoh/Pentax compacts are super too they just don’t get the credit for their optics that they deserve. I’m not a total fanboy though the macro AF in particular sucks but I rarely use that
Sorry if I bother you, but since you are a professional, I wanted to ask you which is the best camera between: sony 6400, sony 6300, sony zv-e10, canon r50 and canon RP? Thank you.
The one you have with you. It doesn’t matter as long as the body does what you want it to do and you like the output. In part, that is why there are so many different cameras. Clients don’t care what camera body you use if the results you deliver are pleasing. Photographers can be such snobs.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Out of the topic here, which light-stand are you using behind you?
Manfrotto Carbon Fiber Nanopole!
"Be one with the 28 mm!" hahaha I agree. This is a great and fair review. Great job!
This camera reminds me of my Minolta AE, which I use for street film photography because of the same reason you listed. Its not as bulky as my x700, so its nice to carry around JUST in case a moment arises. I believe that your comment about the display being off is what sparked this comment in the first place. That's because in film photography, what digital display???
So that's why this camera is some-what of a "film photographer's" digital wishlist. The creature comforts that are just enough help with capturing the photo quicker, but not taking away from the joy of "wanting to get the shot right the first time" vs taking a billion photos to delete later in the sort through Lightroom.
For me I still prefer the smaller form of my RX100, its more reliable AF and of course that pop up eVF.
When I want better Bokeh and low light I just bring out my RX1R.
Curious for portability doesn’t the thousand dollar phone in your pocket take better photos? Not hating, just curious.
I love using my XPERIA but I still feel like I have to process the photos in some ways to get the look I want. With the Ricoh, it’s instantaneous. Also some of the phones have lenses that’s too reflective and gives off some halos in night photos 😢
Great video. Just bought this bad boy and was looking to start experimenting with some of the recipes. But it seems there is an unwritten rule not to share them. If I'm just looking in all the wrong places please let me know; would love to use the ones you're using in both those city shots as well as at Disney. Thank you!
If you're on Facebook, join the Ricoh GR group! Chrizz Ocampo is a member on there and he shares fantastic recipes!
The disney one you can find my previous video: czcams.com/video/urgt073NZNs/video.html at 0:39!
@@JasonVong Will do, thank you man!
Ricoh recipes app?
For the way I shoot it’s the best camera I’ve used … so much I have the original GRD, gr3, gr3x and gr1v
The problem with those cameras is not that they are bad, but is the price around 1k for a point and shoot. With that money you can invest in a used pro body. If you can afford the price than is a good camera.
very few want to carry a brick with them plus another brick (lens) to attach to the brick thus the idea of Ricoh it takes beautiful (with limitations such as no zoom bla bra but some prefer no zoom) pics and fits in pocket
Learn to shop! I have GR iii and X. Both for ~$650 each. Who pays retail for a used camera? Shopping is part of the fun buying gear. From a price perspective, the GRiii is not a Fuji X100V.
I am struggling with no EVF. I of course knew that prior to buying the camera. I usually frame my image using the EVF. Using a GR truly is a point and shoot affair. I can’t blame the camera for this.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
The X100 series is undoubtedly a more well rounded camera… BUT it is still too big carry around on street! The pocket size of the GR hits a sweet spot with image quality imo, which makes it pretty unique, IF the most you would like to use this camera is for street photography
Which is better?
Sony fe 600mm f4 gm oss
Sony fe 200-600mm f5, 6-6.3 g oss
Or that the only difference is the lens aperture
The right tool for the right job. Cost is important. Image quality is important. Flexibility and weight may or may not be for you. The choice is yours.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Couldn't agree more Jason *from Canon, Fuji, Olympus and Ricoh user
I thought it was grest too until i saw the iphone vs richoh comparison. In bright light its almost impossible to tell the difference especially if you just posting oj insta which most are doing.
The coimments I have read concerning the dust problem puts me off
I feel like the gr have a lot of potential . The small and compact body can be the perfect replacement for a phone . I hope for the gr mk4 they up the video specs , and also have mic inputs . This would make the gr a perfect everyday video/ short form content device . And I hope they bring the manual focus wheel from the og gr1 .
The battery required would be too big to support video features. They should just keep it as a stills camera. It was and always should be, for this form factor. There's enough "content creation" cameras everywhere and it's going to be hard to beat the Fuji XS-20 no matter what they come up with. I rather they try their best to shove a full frame sensor into the body.
Zero chance they will put serious video features in it… completely defeats the purpose and the battery form factor is too small anyway.
Which film recipe is your favorite for sunny days??
If you're in the RICOH GR ultimate group on Facebook, a user on there posted their recipe which I used heavily in this video! Chrizz Ocampo, look him up!!
I need a small camera like that in case I get robbed
This might fit your style!
have owned a GR IIIx for a while, other than battery life, all are not consider as compaint, BUT, battle life is the reason that I let it go.
GR cameras will get dust on the sensor. It is inevitable. Costs about $200 to have sensor cleaned. That said, it's the best camera I have ever used, just wish it was weather sealed.
i struggle with the snap focus ;(
Snap focus takes some adjustment. The autofocus works. It is slower and less confident than brands like Sony. Good enough though. For me anyway. Besides the snap focus I also use the touchscreen for focus and then automatically take the picture. Two focus systems are better than one?
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
I did it, I bought it. I’m so excited 😄😄😄
Congratulations on your purchase. I hope this body makes you want to go out and use it. Of course this doesn’t apply to women. The difference between a man and a boy is the price of their toys.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
very honest
Finally!! Someone that doesn't cry about the battery size/capacity. Thanks for your review.
Yes, we know in advance of purchasing this body that the battery life leaves much to be desired. Easy solution. Buy a couple of extra generic batteries or three. They are cheap. They are lite. I do this for bigger batteries that last longer than the GR. Without a battery with stored energy you are carrying around a brick. Just like running out of memory on a card. Same solution.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
The GR3 is such an amazing camera. Amazing image quality out of a tiny body. It has a lot of drawbacks, but the only one that really bothered me enough to lead to me selling it, is the handling and ergonomics 😇 It’s really not bad for a pocketable camera, but I personally need a more tactile, manual shooting experience to inspire me and keep me motivated… for that I think the best compact camera on the market is still the LX100II/D-Lux7, but those aren’t really GR-level pocketable either 🤔
Completely agree with you. I love the images and portability but miss the tactile feel. I have three other cameras and always have this split feeling about Ricoh. I keep wanting to sell it but then I take it with me and love all the positives. Never a perfect world. Great comment, you summed up well.
yes
It really comes down to the TYPE OF PHOTOGRAPHY YOU WANT TO DO AND HOW YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL WANT TO EXPRESS YOUR PERSPECTIVE TO THE WORLD. sOOOOOOOooo many photographers want to criticize what you should photograph with. I own many cameras for SPECIFIC NEEDS. I learned that I like using my Sony cameras when it comes to Surreal, portraits, or marketing value. Griii/ x or Fujifilm is like my daily dairy camera, where I want to share my life. I also use film cameras, mainly when I want to detach from the world and just focus on my surroundings. Photographers who have to convince another photographer what they should shoot with, isn’t really a photographer. They are just tech heads rather of the principle of why a Photographer, is a Photographer . JEEEEZZZZZUUUUZZZZ!!!!
Other than that, I just want the next GR model to be weather and dust sealed. For that price, I need it fully protected .
It's pricey and not for everyone for sure. No zoom, takes it out of the hands, along with price, from all but a dedicated market.
Criticisms acknowledged and true. The Ricoh GRiii is a KISS camera. Can’t live with the choices the engineers made for you? Don’t buy this light collection machine.
You are right about the dedicated market. Street and EDC. Who else would put up with the shortcomings of this camera? Not in the dedicated market? Don’t buy it. There are lots of other cameras that you can choose.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
If you set the focus to 3.5 meters at f8, not everything from 3.5 meters to infinity is in focus, but everything from 2.14 meters to infinity.
I'm super into a light setup with a fast 28mm and the magic it works for spontaneous snaps - but I'd prefer to have a bit more flexibility in the body's features and use something like my A7C. One of my favorite combos when I was shooting M43 was the Panasonic 14mm f2.5 on a body with crazy in-body stabilization like the EPL7 or OMD EM5ii. Unfortunately the FE 28/2 is uninspiring; I might pick up the Sigma 28/2 C, but I hope we eventually get a FE 28/1.8 G for great weather-sealing and autofocus or a 28/2 II pancake revision, but it might be that Sony already considers that niche filled by the 24-40-50 primes.
The 28mm F/2 is def due for an update!!
A Sony version of this camera would be great.
I'm bothering them for an RX1R III...
I was hoping, given the fact that the Fujifilm Cameras (especially the X100V but also the X-T) are very popular at the moment, that other camera manufacturers will try to make something similar. Nikon kind of did but they did not go all in. OM System is also a contender but I don't know whether we will see a new Pen Camera of any kind. Sony had something similar with the RX1 but it is in a different price range and long discontinued.
@@thomasa.243 A full frame Z-F would be a huge hit for Nikon. They seem to be waiting till gen3 of the Z6/7 are out but I wonder if the hype would have died down by then. They could simply chuck a full frame sensor into the ZFc and sell it next quarter if they wanted to. Not sure if OM system still has any life in them. As a Olympus SLR owner, I kinda wish they would revive some old vintage designs.
@@professionalpotato4764 well, maybe not the next quarter 😅. There is a bit more than just changing the sensor but yeah... The Zfc feels like they dipped their toes to see how it goes and when successful, they will move to the next step. So, I hope for the next step 🙈. OM System, I mean, a Pen E-P 8 or whatever it might be called, paired with a 14mm might be a hit, especially in Europe and Japan. They were never as popular in the US as in Europe and Japan unfortunately. Plus, you have the option to change lenses as you progress.
@@JasonVong Good luck with that. A cheaper Leica Q or more expensive Fuji X100.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
I hate no viewfinder.
People just want to pay xx amount of money and expect xxxx amount of performance.
I know I do. It is called a bargain.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Love it, but seems it's so fragile
I don't want more GR videos. I'm not trying to buy one!!!😅
I don't expect Jason Vong audience to understand the GR. They're the same people who would say "My Sony can do more than a Leica". They won't get it until they do.
For battery, just bring a USB-C mobile battery charger and you'll be fine.
Nobody hates the GR. They hate that people love it so much.
Is that really true? Sounds like hyperbola.
I know that I don’t care what brand other shooters are using. I select my gear based upon what I want it to do and the cost. For example, I don’t hate the people using bodies with a red dot. I don’t hate the red dot bodies or glass. It just isn’t right for me.
If you purchase gear you should love it. Just don’t make me buy what you love.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
I have had this camera a month so let add a few things
-Dust on the lens every second time
-Didn't work on a mountain despite being a travel cam
-No weather sealed
-Hugely expensive and fragile
-No a point and shoot, the basic settings are fucking horrible and you always need to go through an intense process to take one shot but by the time you go through that process the shot is gone
-Firmware updates like Windows 98
-No good auto mode, P mode is trash
-Can't shoot clouds unless you underexpose then edit to right exposure
HATE this camera, willfully leaving it without a case and chucked in my bag atm as I have 0 respect for the camera. If ti did break it'd just be another special Ricoh thing. I wish I got the RXMK7
Time and labor intensive as well.
We need an update with the HDF now haha
I use my iPhone 14 Pro with the Dazz Cam app. It's a solid app with many camera emulations (photo and video) I easily achieve a low-fi film quality with the Dazz Cam camera and lens emulators. Tho I've been itching to snatch something like this GRIII or a Fuji
Returning my GR III... I had a 1" 20mp point and shoot and it's enough for me!
Sorry you didn’t enjoy your GR. No camera is perfect. No camera is for everyone. For some people a 1” sensor will break the deal. As Jason said, this camera isn’t for everyone. Enjoy your camera.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
For casual days you have your cell.
Love the images I get from this camera but don't call it a pocket camera. Put it in your pocket and you'll end up with dust on your sensor in no time.
I can say the only reason i hate this is because i can't buy one.
im sorry
Did they really ran out of stock? I was just referring to my lack of budget. 😂
@@alwayne01 Amazon looks like they have some stock. But Adorama and B&H are out!
coz this camera overheat ,,thats why i hate this
My GR never overheats. I turn the camera when not in use. As a result, the battery lasts longer. This camera has a quick turn on.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
@@martingreenberg870 coz your country is cold 🥶 , if you used on hot place same like mine
only reason to hate it as the sensor sucking dusts
Yeah it sucks.. everything bad about your life and throws it away far into the abyss where it can't hurt you anymore.
yes it sucks, ridiculously overprized
I agree. The little sucker is almost the price of some full frame cameras plus kit lens.
@@riverwalker2173At a 1000$?😅
" Why Do Some People HATE It " Because they bought a Fuji x100 and are now jealous because it's way too big and doesn't fit in their pocket.😉
First to comment.😅
Congratulations! Anything else you’d like to share?
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Im just never a fan of digi-cams like this..its looks fine but its a pass for me.. i'd rather save my money guys. ohh and its auto focus not good.. goodbye Ricoh..
Different strokes for different folks.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Ricoh will broke after a half of a year of using. It's normal for this camera. Don't listen bloggers about "cool small street camera"
Going strong 1 year in. Many others have used it since release, no issues. If you throw cameras around, you deserve to have them broken. I don't even throw "rugged" cameras around.
2 mins and i'm tired as fuck to watch this jim carrey, i mean omar gonzalez... i mean...
Thank you for your comment.
Don’t like the video? Fine. Go on to the next one. It isn’t as if there is a shortage of videos that will thrill & delight you. They are out there. Good hunting.
Mask On Nurse Marty (Ret)
Yes it sucks.......