Sony A7c vs A7III: CRAZY Difference

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  • čas přidán 10. 10. 2020
  • Sony has been trying to perfect their colour science for years. Since they are Reptilians, and have green skin, our faces confuse their mind, but they are getting close. Today we'll compare the Sony A7c vs the A7 III. Does the A7c have the new colour science? Is autofocus much improved? Is stabilization that much worse? Should you buy the A7c or the A7 III, and should you sell the A7 III to get the A7c?
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  • @cameraconspiracies
    @cameraconspiracies  Před 3 lety +33

    Thanks Camera Canada for the loaner! Canadian affiliate link to the A7c in the description. Today's gear can be found in my amazon affiliate shop. If you buy anything from there, Sony will release an A7c mark ii with anti gravity hover stabe. Only works with iso 409,000. www.amazon.com/shop/vegetablepolice
    User error hit us hard today lol. A7III in flexible spot autofocus, that's why it went haywire inside. For some reason it worked great outside :)
    Sony A7C amzn.to/2Suonr8
    Sony A7 III
    Sony 20mm f1.8
    Tamron 17-28mm f2.8
    Tamron 28-75mm f2.8
    Nebula tripod
    Tascam DR10-L
    Uurig selfie mirror

    • @Aman_Mondal
      @Aman_Mondal Před 3 lety +1

      Okay that Catalyst Browse destroyed your complaints about the stabilization of Sony cameras also for some reason even though the Sony A7III is larger which should mean better IBIS still the A7c is better in terms of IBIS also colours looked terrible on the A7III compared to A7c

    • @NikolajFHalberg
      @NikolajFHalberg Před 3 lety

      Have you considered trying to add the missing lens metadata to one of the movies shot with the a7c & the Laowa lens to see if it then works with Catalyst Browse?

    • @milo_van
      @milo_van Před 3 lety

      a7c got my money

    • @Aman_Mondal
      @Aman_Mondal Před 3 lety

      @@NikolajFHalberg how the hell will metadata of pictures be transferred to video files that stuff doesn't work like that

    • @Aman_Mondal
      @Aman_Mondal Před 3 lety

      @Edgar G. Don't know how much it is in American price range comparison but for us Indians it is perfectly matching that of the A7III we over here have it around Rs.137000 only body and not that kit lens

  • @cameralabs
    @cameralabs Před 3 lety +53

    Good comparisons, thanks!

  • @DruMUSIC06
    @DruMUSIC06 Před 3 lety +26

    I tell you guys. His intros are the best in CZcams. Got me laughing at the first 10 seconds. Golden!

  • @birdjacobs
    @birdjacobs Před 3 lety +167

    Skin tones look way better on the A7c

    • @vlcheish
      @vlcheish Před 3 lety +14

      100% Agree. Not even close and the AF destroys it.

    • @metphmet
      @metphmet Před 3 lety +6

      But it is not the same lens . My Tamron 28/75 is warmish. I have not watched the entire video . Does he switch the lenses to clarify this point ?

    • @SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
      @SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat Před 3 lety +1

      yeah if you into carrots

    • @AdventuresinBackpacking
      @AdventuresinBackpacking Před 3 lety +4

      I agree. The colors on the A7c really are a lot better in this comparison.

  • @ekremgj
    @ekremgj Před 3 lety +2

    Best reviews! I love it that you dont just talk but you go out and try the camera out and you let the others make an opinion of it! Keep it on man!😀

  • @RauriBarron
    @RauriBarron Před 3 lety +32

    Man, the falling leaf “scariest thing that ever happened to me” made me laugh so hard I don’t know why. Great comparison mate 👌🏽

  • @timmytakemefishin6336
    @timmytakemefishin6336 Před 3 lety +5

    Awesome review mate! I literally just got home with the A7C as a complete noob and I don't think I'm unhappy about my purchase after watching this! Cheers!

  • @CASMANWHAT
    @CASMANWHAT Před 3 lety +32

    The Ibis when you adjusted the camera sitting down was so amazing that it inspired me to buy the camera and never use it.

    • @CASMANWHAT
      @CASMANWHAT Před 3 lety +4

      PS. Thx Camera Canada. ⛄🤱

    • @Isume90
      @Isume90 Před 3 lety

      Gonna print that and put it on wall

  • @andrewbabbans
    @andrewbabbans Před 3 lety +4

    I came unprepared for the amount of LOLs. Loved it!

  • @tanmoyroy2898
    @tanmoyroy2898 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank. you for listening and making this vid, you're the best.

  • @gnarlyblasterboys4123
    @gnarlyblasterboys4123 Před 3 lety +2

    I seen a video a awhile(years ago) back of you and I swear man.. your character is sticky bro. I love the way you articulate bro. Your a funny guy.

  • @MaxMattie
    @MaxMattie Před 2 lety +2

    How did I not know about your channel omg I loved this video haha thanks for the comparison I’ve been debating between these two

  • @patrickfahey2941
    @patrickfahey2941 Před 2 lety +2

    You make me laugh so hard, like where most people will pause and say “um” you randomly do the funniest shit, thanks for making this stuff

  • @mohamedkhodary7831
    @mohamedkhodary7831 Před 3 lety

    That intro got me on the floor 😂😂😂😂, keep up the golden work 👏👏👏

  • @theportuguesewineexperienc5235

    Kasey! Greetings, greetings! Thanks for all the laughs, really! I’ve been binge watching both your channels. A lot of work and time has gone into all of this plus your epic journey. Thanks, man! Btw, I will tolerate up to 7 minutes of adds throughout any vlog, but would you believe that CZcams just tried to sneak a 30 minute video documentary?! Sure, I like you, but not that much! LOL Cheers, buddy and greetings all the way from Portugal.

  • @titosurf1
    @titosurf1 Před 3 lety +1

    best comparaison out there, thanks a lot for the amazing work

  • @NancyTiltonHand
    @NancyTiltonHand Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you so much for this review. For so many reasons.

  • @dianascarletthenry
    @dianascarletthenry Před 3 lety +2

    this is exactly the content i was looking for

  • @BudayaUrangSunda
    @BudayaUrangSunda Před 2 lety

    sorry my english is not fluent. does it look overexposed when you test the a7c outdoors, does the sunlight change? i'm really confused a7c or a7iii, i've never tried both, i'm currently using a canon 80d. please advise, thank you. are the colors on the a7c the same as those on the a7s iii?

  • @maddenfan6683
    @maddenfan6683 Před 3 lety +2

    Bro this was the test we all wanted! Thank you so so much! Do you know if you keep eye tracking in 120fps on the a7c?

  • @RussianPinoy
    @RussianPinoy Před 3 lety +1

    You re awesome dude, a hole new level of camera's reviews

  • @mikewinburn
    @mikewinburn Před 3 lety +16

    WOW that catalyst software was mad effective!

  • @alexiom1256
    @alexiom1256 Před 3 lety +1

    First objectiv Video about this camera. Thank you and Greetings from Germany!😉

  • @AANasseh
    @AANasseh Před 3 lety +77

    Let's take a moment to appreciate that epic rap bit in the parking lot. "I just want to feel a tit, to hold on to it just for a little bit." pure poetry in motion!

    • @BobAsbury
      @BobAsbury Před 3 lety +3

      Sounds like a new CC t-shirt in the making.

    • @NARC4K
      @NARC4K Před 3 lety +1

      Sounded pretty good IMO 😄 I want to hear more !

    • @_rhapsodist
      @_rhapsodist Před 3 lety +1

      yeah that was an epic line

  • @WigglyW
    @WigglyW Před 3 lety +4

    My favourite video about the a7c yet. You're hilarious man.

  • @News_Today
    @News_Today Před 3 lety +7

    Your lyrics are the best thing I heard LOL!!!

  • @TravisVarga
    @TravisVarga Před 3 lety

    What ya reckon a better B Cam for A7siii? A73 or A7c? Thanks. Also love my alien camera conspiracies tank top I have two they all I wear even winter time.

  • @markshirley01
    @markshirley01 Před 3 lety

    How easy is it to switch back and forth from video to photo on the A7C. Ive heard its difficult because your last settings aren't saved.

  • @mogmaximus
    @mogmaximus Před 3 lety +17

    There's no way A7iii has this bad autofocus, he must have had it on the wrong settings

    • @DreySantesson
      @DreySantesson Před 3 lety +4

      Dude that’s the first thing I thought as soon as I saw the focus hunting. No way !

    • @EricLouisYoung
      @EricLouisYoung Před 2 lety

      S-log2

    • @Silvestian
      @Silvestian Před 2 lety +1

      I can confirm. I have 2 a73 and the focus is dope!

    • @mogmaximus
      @mogmaximus Před 2 lety

      @@EricLouisYoung oh I see, but if he was using that silly thing he should have mentioned it, then switched back to a better PP

    • @mogmaximus
      @mogmaximus Před 2 lety +1

      @@Silvestian why 2?

  • @JacobPrater
    @JacobPrater Před 3 lety +2

    But what is better stabilizing for foreground or background

  • @Sun_XY
    @Sun_XY Před 3 lety

    is a7c overall control smooth than a73?
    A73 seem having some delay while after pressing

  • @kevinsmithfilms
    @kevinsmithfilms Před 3 lety +1

    Your silly bro,,,i love it made your comedy made us all watch the whole video. Great work!

  • @cinqo7
    @cinqo7 Před 3 lety

    Great video. Which lenses did you use for the street video on the A7C?

  • @roccofalzone9369
    @roccofalzone9369 Před 3 lety +1

    I felt like my brain was in your head. Thanks for this great comparison and helping me make a decision.

  • @StatusQuo209
    @StatusQuo209 Před 3 lety

    You look less flushed on the A7C. Considering getting one to upgrade from my RP. Only concern is if the lens metadata will show up in Lightroom if I adapt my EF lenses. Anyone know what smart adapter that keeps the metadata and autofocus intact?

  • @QuicksilverSG
    @QuicksilverSG Před 3 lety +14

    The reason HLG is so consistent is because it's an actual cross-platform standard that all manufacturers implement the same way (except Sony, but just stick with HLG3). In practice, "Standard" is store salesman demo mode and LOG is different on every camera brand (and with Sony, every model). That, along with the huge mess that LUT's have become, is the post-production downfall of LOG profiles.

    • @noname-cj6jp
      @noname-cj6jp Před 2 lety

      Agreed. As a beginner it's already confusing with all LOG, LUT, picture profiles, etc etc to get the color grading process right in the first place and it get even worse by all those "LUTs" that youtubers wanna sell that merely are glorified instagram filters..Where are the official LUTs one would ask? It's like shooting RAW without RAW-converter abilities....Fortunately color management in Davinci Resolve makes the need for LUTs pretty much obsolete, but no LUT selling youtuber wanna talk about this do they?

  • @maddenfan6683
    @maddenfan6683 Před 3 lety +1

    Such a good comparison video I think I've watched this video 10 times lol

  • @SpectreSoundStudios
    @SpectreSoundStudios Před 3 lety +115

    Still want to collab with this guy!

    • @HugoVarvoglis
      @HugoVarvoglis Před 3 lety +2

      SpectreSoundStudios record some real drums and heavy guitars in his songs 🤘😁

    • @EmoEmu
      @EmoEmu Před 3 lety +4

      MAKE IT HAPPEN!
      ... your base player is a worthless vlogger.

    • @rodmehta5356
      @rodmehta5356 Před 3 lety +2

      Great idea!
      Just don't expect to be in focus ;-)

    • @EmoEmu
      @EmoEmu Před 3 lety

      I think we found the worthless BASS player. lol

    • @jwlademann
      @jwlademann Před 3 lety +6

      "All I want is a useful bassist", the new impossible search begins

  • @AndyKingCo
    @AndyKingCo Před 3 lety +1

    Great video. Subscribed

  • @ElBoyoElectronico
    @ElBoyoElectronico Před 3 lety +4

    My A7III also had the exact same problems as in your video. I returned it after three days. A7C is the better buy for video. Will wait for more info on the A7IV before buying the A7C.

  • @brucejones1123
    @brucejones1123 Před 3 lety

    For Sonys' focus, do you use Face Recognition feature? (It's always going be your face.)
    @ 12.05 It has a green-screen look about it, how did you do that?

  • @safouanekhamassi
    @safouanekhamassi Před 3 lety

    Great comparison, Browsing takes time but it's smooth af!

  • @aaronshortmusic
    @aaronshortmusic Před 2 lety

    The A7C looks great! Which lens are you using with it here? Thanks.

  • @jstfd
    @jstfd Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for this review 😂 Love it!

  • @MoElf
    @MoElf Před 3 lety

    I have sony a6600 for video low light 80 % at night am I need upgrade to a7c for video ?
    Thx

  • @TaskForceMediaGroup
    @TaskForceMediaGroup Před 3 lety +4

    That rap was the best! Also you're convincing me to buy an a7c even though i already own an a7iii that i use mostly for loser photography. I've been making my recent vlogs with the ZV1( I know, its a loser camera), but the a7c looks like its the perfect camera for regular youtubers who don't need all the crazy features of the a7siii.

  • @TeeNorbu
    @TeeNorbu Před 2 lety

    I love watching your video. You are seriously funny 😁. I only subscribed to your channel to watch your reaction. Thanks

  • @carlomerazaudiovisuales

    Does the digital stabilization catalyst work whit vintage or full manual lens?

  • @BazabamPictures
    @BazabamPictures Před 3 lety

    Hallo my friend . Your vlog with sony FF mirrorless at outdoor location looks like your background as a green screen. I thinking twice for switching from my canon 6d & canon 7d mark ii to Sony mirrorless full frame. Thank you so much for this video. You saved my life 🙏

  • @bbdop
    @bbdop Před 3 lety

    Hi. Can you share some footages to download in S-Log or HLG with a face in the frame?

  • @Karbyassad
    @Karbyassad Před 2 lety

    I liked your intro it’s nice and hilarious, I going watch the video

  • @EDHBlvd
    @EDHBlvd Před 3 lety +2

    Catalyst seems to analyze and stabilize the background at the expense of subject. It makes subject (you) look super wobbly, but makes background smooth, which is overall superior.

    • @bozmundarts2614
      @bozmundarts2614 Před 3 lety

      Because he was already being "wobbly" though 👀

  • @TomScryleus
    @TomScryleus Před 3 lety

    *I would love to see low light comparisons between these two (and your other cameras)*
    *at different iso.*

  • @chryseass.5143
    @chryseass.5143 Před 3 lety

    Is the Tamron 17-28 sharper than the Tamron 28-75 at the 28 fl? Looks that way to me.

  • @craftycub
    @craftycub Před 3 lety +2

    Great comparison! Made up my mind. That a7iii was not keeping up on focus.

  • @ivanprovideo3338
    @ivanprovideo3338 Před 3 lety

    So x-t4 or 7c? Same budget, what do you think?

  • @jayaseto
    @jayaseto Před 2 lety +2

    i like this guys sense of humor hahaha

  • @vincentpruebasvideo5795

    I totally forget what i was looking for, thanks for makes me laught so much!

  • @mattpna
    @mattpna Před 3 lety +2

    Just found your channel, i never laugh that much on a review

  • @Athiril
    @Athiril Před 3 lety +4

    If they could update the firmware to apply the IBIS adjustments to the gyro data recorded, the catalyst browse stabilisation would work on top of IBIS

  • @williamwilkinson2959
    @williamwilkinson2959 Před 3 lety +1

    whats toneh saying at the end ? 'dont cry for me argentina?' anyone hear it?

  • @LukeBrownFigmentoFilms
    @LukeBrownFigmentoFilms Před 3 lety +3

    Around the 1:40 spot I'd day the A7c looks a little sickly due to a slight yellow hue and the A7III seems to lean a bit more magenta. A7c seems to have better AF but A7III seems to be better at exposing and has detail through the dynamic range.

  • @FilmUsMediaGroup
    @FilmUsMediaGroup Před 3 lety

    You're a funny guy, very entertaining as always.

  • @armando.visuals
    @armando.visuals Před 3 lety

    How is the low light in this camera?

  • @FPoelje
    @FPoelje Před 3 lety

    Maybe you could try Center Weighted metering when vlogging with such strong difference between light from the background and your face. Or even tighter, but then it would blow out the highlights in the background.

  • @little_square
    @little_square Před 3 lety

    Have you ever used Samyang AF 18mm f2.8 ?
    I would love to see you use that lens with the a7c.

  • @kyletaggart
    @kyletaggart Před 3 lety

    One thing to note, is that in your sit down vids like this with the side by side, one camera looks closer, the A7III?. You go in close for focus tests, so the minimum focusing distance may be different depending on which lens you're using, which may cause some issues.

  • @orlandop4sun
    @orlandop4sun Před 2 lety +1

    Wow. This video is fantastic

  • @BassPlayerAvailable
    @BassPlayerAvailable Před 3 lety

    Could you zoom in Loser mode to the same as catalyst browse so we can see THAT comparison?

  • @divyamkanojia3033
    @divyamkanojia3033 Před 3 lety +2

    What do you expect from a7iv I am diagnosed with no new camera syndrome just tell me Kasey

  • @dazxmedia
    @dazxmedia Před 3 lety +17

    SOLD, I'm grabbing an A7c, poor focus tracking has been the bane of my existance...I'll order through your affiliate link, anything to help this channel my brotha..

  • @georgebirddrums
    @georgebirddrums Před 3 lety +8

    10 secs in and I'm dying already 🤣

  • @JapanLovers
    @JapanLovers Před 3 lety

    You're less red on the a7c. Does your 28-75 have the latest firmware? Looks like it's on the old one...

  • @ButterscotchLife
    @ButterscotchLife Před 2 lety +1

    awesome test buddy :)

  • @Almarillion
    @Almarillion Před 3 lety

    Are both lenses latest firmware?

  • @pedrogoncalves1372
    @pedrogoncalves1372 Před 3 lety +3

    Did you had a monitor connected to the A7III to see yourself? Because that disables the face autofocus on that camera. On the A7C you have a flip out monitor so you would not need to use another, but even if you do, I think that they resolved that, and you can use an external monitor and still use face autofocus. That could explain the difference in autofocus performance.

  • @iTube2772
    @iTube2772 Před 15 dny

    when are you recording your stand up special ?

  • @martydibergi5228
    @martydibergi5228 Před 3 lety +1

    A big thank you for mentioning Spinal Tap in your rap. Best non real band and Film ever. I heard it was filmed on a Cannon camera.😍🎸🐕

  • @VancityTrials
    @VancityTrials Před 3 lety

    any way to remove the crop in 4k30

  • @samirz7
    @samirz7 Před 3 lety +1

    LMAO ! this was hilarious...dude runs like Mario ! Epic channel.

  • @StarshipGhost
    @StarshipGhost Před 3 lety +1

    LMAO... that Catalyst is amazing. You looked too choppy because no 180 degree shutter but the background was smooth as butter.

  • @VernalFilm
    @VernalFilm Před 3 lety

    Can somebody with leverage PLEASE ask Sony to make level and histogram visible at the same monitor display? My Disp button is almost worn out.

  • @cutitoutmedia4995
    @cutitoutmedia4995 Před 3 lety

    Is catalyst mode better in 60p?

  • @SanVicenteDeChucuri
    @SanVicenteDeChucuri Před 2 lety

    I tell you my case. Big problem with my a7c camera. It does not focus on the eye in 4k quality if you have activated the "Remote PC" option in the menu.
    That means if you connect the camera to a gimbal via a cable,
    eye focus is not activated in 4k quality.
    Testing in lower grades the problem is solved.
    I used other stabilizers that don't use cable and the problem continues.
    video: czcams.com/video/AFr408IZf8c/video.html
    The problem is activating the "remote pc" or "ctrl with smartphone" option.
    Any solution? Greetings from Colombia

  • @Collin2377
    @Collin2377 Před 3 lety

    How do we know that the one on the left is really the A7C ?

  • @everillangel5037
    @everillangel5037 Před 3 lety +1

    I heard that turning on the log gamma assist settings in camera can help with focus in log

  • @SB-mr2nk
    @SB-mr2nk Před 3 lety +4

    A trio of sisters that argue over who gets the last spoonful of Kraft dinner. I'm dead HAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • @dennisolof9994
    @dennisolof9994 Před 3 lety +1

    If Sony only had that SteadXP module or similar build it into the camera. That would be epic to have stable video like you get with the GoPro. That Catalyst software is great. Real time gyro stabilization data built into the camera would make this post process stabilize process so much faster. A7c with that software stabilization is the best buy for most people compared to the A7III.

  • @GeekyStuff
    @GeekyStuff Před 3 lety +10

    Sorry for all the comments, but your tshirt is now darker red in HLG-3

    • @ThanhThanh-it1pm
      @ThanhThanh-it1pm Před 3 lety

      because ....it's darker, not same exporse the previous sense.

  • @LE672AJ
    @LE672AJ Před 3 lety +2

    10:54 I had a George Takei style “oh myyy” moment there...

  • @EASYROLLIN
    @EASYROLLIN Před 3 lety

    Does the Catalyst Browse work only for A7c? If not, can you try it on both cameras and see which one does better?

    • @cameraconspiracies
      @cameraconspiracies  Před 3 lety

      It works with any Sony with a gyro sensor, A7III doesn't have it.

    • @EASYROLLIN
      @EASYROLLIN Před 3 lety

      Aaaaaaaah 😲
      Thx for the response!
      I love you
      Still dont know what to pick a7c or xt4 🤣 for my car vlog but also potential commercial work for clients...
      I'll keep watching

  • @Collin2377
    @Collin2377 Před 3 lety +1

    For some reason the A7C video is shaky when outside, for some reason. Like it has no stabilization.

  • @CuttingEdgeLogging_Thomas

    New here....good shit dude 😂

  • @williamweatherall8333
    @williamweatherall8333 Před 3 lety

    What was your shutter-speed when you did the speed walk? The footage was jarring.

  • @danielakerman8241
    @danielakerman8241 Před 3 lety +2

    OMFG this was one of the funniest videos ever. I was watching in bed with my fiancee asleep next to me and I was shaking with laughter, tears rolling down my face, trying not to make a sound. "IBIS is off" is going to be my new catchphrase.

    • @joas162
      @joas162 Před 2 lety

      What you need IBIS in your own body ;)

  • @jskaimol
    @jskaimol Před 3 lety

    Why not showing a73 catylist mode?

  • @sebsyoutubechannel4252
    @sebsyoutubechannel4252 Před 3 lety +19

    Did the 28-75mm lens have its updated firmware? That lens famously struggles with AF before you update it. I'm not sure but I would guess that's the case because I've never seen my A7III struggle to focus like that. Just a thought. :)

    • @MatthewHyatt
      @MatthewHyatt Před 3 lety

      Been using it for a year in tons of video applications and never had any issues. Weird.

    • @basslover352
      @basslover352 Před 3 lety

      s log has really bad af in the a7iii

  • @basslover352
    @basslover352 Před 3 lety +3

    The a7iii and third gen in general I believe have very poor autofocus in s log. hlg and standard you can see here are closer in af performance but the a7c has a slight advantage still. If you have an a7iii though no need to get an a7c. I still appreciate the extra controls and grip on the a7iii more.

  • @DenisBarbas
    @DenisBarbas Před 3 lety +3

    who is dis guy ??? lmao, one of the best reviews out there haha

  • @scottcwood
    @scottcwood Před 3 lety

    Where did you find your Sony LUTS to use? Been looking forever especially for an HLG lut but can’t find one without purchasing. Fuji offers an Flog too Eterna and that makes it so simple.

    • @cameraconspiracies
      @cameraconspiracies  Před 3 lety +1

      Look on their site.

    • @scottcwood
      @scottcwood Před 3 lety

      Camera Conspiracies Just found em. I’m guessing there isn’t a lut for HLG since it’s a hybrid “log” Like your HLG colors a lot. Great job.