Brand New Carry Option: Avidity Arms PD10
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The new PD10 from Avidity Arms is here. Rob Pincus has had a hand in designing the PD10 and it's available in 9mm and 30 Super Carry.
#PD10 #9mm #30SC - Zábava
Every time a new firearm comes out with a 10 in the name and isn't 10mm. I die a little inside.
😂👍
🤣 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
This was me. I was super excited thinking it might be 10mm.
The Walther PPS was 17 years ahead of this.
I Was Thinking the Exact Same Thing Pork-Chop! The PPS Has Been My EDC For the Last Six Years. It's Incredibly Reliable and Accurate!
Single stack G19 sized gun by a new company with no aftermarket support and priced higher than proven micro compacts with higher capacity. Mac is trying real hard to sell this one.
Real HARD!!! 😂 Trying to help Rob recoup some of the money he invested for a pistol the market didn’t ask for.
When glock launched the G17 they were also a new company with no aftermarket support, the market didn't ask for a plastic "tupperware gun", fast forward to 2024 everybody is trying to out-glock Glock.
New companies need support, maybe they will be the next big thing, maybe not, but better having more options than having only a handful.
@@grtorrest I agree! But you know just as well as I do that there is no innovation in this gun, let alone it being the “next big thing”! This gun is nothing more than a single stack Glock. Especially for the inflated price. Rob made a niche gun that 90% of the market doesn’t want now. But 10 percent of the gun market is still decent margin for him to recoup his efforts.
@@grtorrestYeab except the Glock was a double stack polymer striker fired gun in a time of all metal single stack pistols and revolvers, it was distinctly different. This would be like releasing a 5 shot 9mm Model 10 sized revolver in 1960, yeah its a little different, but why.
@@bower31 the HK VP70 was a double stack, polymer, striket fired even before
It must suck to work on something for a decade and then realize that it is obsolete when you release it. 😂
Why did it take him a decade to figure out how to make a glock knockoff?
Thought the same thing. I was really excited about this gun in 2016... waited a year ... another year... another year... then the G48 came out and I completely forgot it existed until just now.
@@Lordofthepoorswhat if its a sw m and p ripoff or a walther ripoff
Nearly 10 years in development only for it to be obsolete day one of release.
MSRP $625.... Seen available at $592. Sorry, way to many other options for that price range.
Exactly 💯
Thanks Tim. Great job. Good info. God bless.
LETS GO BRANDON
Yep, ... To many excellent choices for that kind of money, Or Even Less !! The Shield Plus, ... the Beretta APX compact, ... the amazing Walther PDP and PDP-F, ... And SEVERAL Caniks !
I like the S&W Shield plus for 30 super carry. It comes with a 13rd mag, and a 16rd mag
This is revolutionary!
For 2010
Man, I really can’t think of a good reason to sacrifice capacity with all the micro and/or compact options available.
MAC is pulling his punches on this obsolete product
Super weird this got uploaded today. I randomly thought this morning "whatever happened to avidity arms?" and looked up why the PD10 never came out. Now I see this. The simulation is real folks
I'm glad you are a big fan of 30 SC; so am I!
Eh Tim did you get paid for this one? I've seen you tear apart guns that were designed poorly, this gun is clearly outdated in its design. It's a 4in XDS without the grip safety...
O you know he's getting paid somewhere down this line, there is no way any rational gun owner thinks this is anything acceptable for 2024
Kinda looks like the bersa bp9...
I like 30 super carry. My M&P shield plus 16 plus 1. Great video
We're still waiting for your full review of the PSA Rock 5.7.
I remember hearing about this gun a long time ago, I had completely forgot about it. Unfortunately, it's too late now... There are plenty of great small guns out there, starting with the p365. Oh, well...
It's a Gen 3 Glock clone. Only more expensive than literally every other Gen 3 Glock clone. There, saved everyone a lot of time.
YEP !! Some people need to wake the hell up.
@@user-rn9sb8wu4h If we want to be specific you can get a PSA Dagger OR w/ threaded barrel, raised sights and lightened slide for $300 on sale. Drop a Timney or CMC trigger in for another $150 and have something that's as good as or better than the Avidity. Even less if you go with an Apex AEK trigger.
And it's fuglier than a Glock, while probably not having a chance in hell of being anywhere near as reliable also !! 😮😅😂. I admit though, to actually liking the very Austrian, spartan aesthetic lines of Glocks. This Avidity looks a clumsy mishmash of a Glock clone crossed with a Bersa BP9.
As much as SDI and MGS sponsor videos, there had better be a huge influx of gunsmiths soon
The same Rob Pincus that is against 2A? 😂 No, thanks!
Looking at the specs its nearly identical to the 365 macro in size which is 17+1 rds of 9
Awkward 😂
They are too late to the party - there are smaller guns that hold more rounds, literally no reason to buy this gun unless you just love Rob Pincus that much...
Holsters compatibility reliability...future of company all negatives...not even getting to the mediocre nature of the gun.
States with capacity limits still exist. As do people that want a more compact profile. At less than an inch it's grip is thinner than most stack and a half 9mms that hold 11 to 15 rounds.
@@cavalieroutdoors6036Great Point
@@cavalieroutdoors6036😂ha hahaha just when you thought 30 super carry was dead on arrival.. now if only Glock made a model 28 in 30 sc.
No PocketPincus for you?
Glad you put those old clips back on. I missed some of them
So will NOT see another Video of Rob throwing these pistols down range because they Didn't work? He got all the bugs worked out? He finally brought a Glock 48 to market. Great, good for him.
This may be the most "meh" pistol ever brought to market.
It reminds of a Steyr pistol in its basic design style.But, the angles have been "massaged" a little bit.
it reminded me of a S&W Shield 9mm. looks really like nothing new except the 30 Super Carry ............
Hmm. Looks like a Springfield XD grip with an Arex Delta slide.
Or maybe even design cues from Bersa !?!
Wow I was shocked to see such a glowing review of this, if it had Glock, Sig or any other name on it you would have shredded it, I get trying to help a friend but wow
"So ... I made a Glock 43x." - Rob
I really like Rob, but this is too little too late. He’s been working on this thing for almost a decade. He was outrun on the market. No need for a single stack anymore since all the small carry guns have been introduced. There will be a very very tiny market for this, but the vast majority of people will stick with small double stacks.
no one should give a single cent to rob pincus for his stance on gun control
Single stack buyer, I can’t carry more than ten rounds when I enter Washington State.
This is dead already
@melissasmess2773 p365 holds 10, fits in pocket. 10 round single stack simply isn't as easy to conceal or even carry.
Some single stacks are thinner and easier to carry, not everyone wants or needs optics and 13rnds
Wait a year and you'll be able to see this on Forgotten Weapons. Maybe Ian will shoot a bug match with it.
you seem to be making a lot of excuses for the negative parts of this gun ?
Lord fudd Pincus
You won't be seeing this on very many CZcams gun channels. This gun hasn't a chance in hell of competing with PSA, Glock, SIG, Springfield, Canik, Tisas, Grand Power, and many more.
2010 called and wants its’ gun back Rob! 😂
Unfortunately I have to agree with this gun being late to the party. I was following this for a while then ultimately forgot about it until recently. It looks very well thought out and I’m still intrigued. I like that it’s in 9mm but for its size and capacity…I would like to see it chambered in .40 caliber. I think that cartridge would also be a good fit and would probably sell better than .30 SC. Just an opinion. 😊
Definitely 30 sc. Been thinking about one because of capacity. Not very many on the market. Didn't know 40 still exist.
@@lancedooley7558it definitely does for the ill informed.
Yeah i feel like this was annouced almost a decade ago now.
Its very similar to a Walther PPS M1. Without the saftey backstrap and slightly longer.
I've followed the PD-10 since it was announced and was excited for it, but I feel like it came to market a little late. For the price they are asking I can get a Glock 48 which seem to be the same class this pistol falls in. I wish this pistol came out a few years earlier.
I'd rather get the G48 as well, especially since x products has the 15 round magazine for it making it outclass this gun just in capacity alone.
Glocks are subpar out of the box
Yeah, but then you have a Glock... 🤮
@@edstringer1138 Subpar......OH!!! You mean 100% reliable, readily available magazines-that are also 100% and not in need of garbage to be able to "rip" the mag from the frame.....gee must be a reason they made the base pad THAT big.....readily available holsters and a whole host of aftermarket support. "Subpar"
@@Locutus494 I know right? 100% reliability, readily available holsters and magazines is such a drawback!!
I'm glad it's out because I started getting interest in his pistol about 7 years ago and now we have it ...
I carry a Glock 48 with a 15 round Palmetto arms magazine. It is very reliable . End of statement
I thought 30 super carry was mostly dead already. Been seeing some sales on the Smith guns which I took as an indication that it was a poor seller. Seems like a neat cartridge though
I saw it come out and I thought why bother, I already have a 9, 40 and 357 Sig if I want expensive ammunition.
The ain't selling next to any Super Carry pistols at any of the half dozen gun shops in my area, and none of them seem to have ammunition on hand either. Going the way of the G.A.P. 45 cartridge.
It can be revived if g9 and Lehigh make a 30sc bullet for loaders to use. And then the next question is why not make the bullet even smaller and lighter for even more capacity and even lighter recoil
@@jason200912.... A nice sentiment I guess, .. but this one is on life support ... 📉 barely.
Sweet looks like a bigger Bersa BP9.
If only this would have came out 15 years ago, it would have been cool. Too many better options to choose from, not to mention there will be zero support from the aftermarket. It’s gonna be hard to find even a holster. Even if this pistol came out 10 years ago, I still wouldn’t have bought it. It looks just like a Bersa BP9CC, just double the price 😂
Yeah ! I immediately thought that Pincus had outsourced the frame design to Bersa, the second that I first saw a photo of one ! 😮😅😂
Night hawk customs , Smith and Wesson and now this one. Are the ones I know of that manufacturer firearms in 30 super . Great video guys. Thank you.
Hi Point, too, in their carbine.
Looks nice!
"A couple of years?" More like a decade.
KAHR is bringing out a double stack very soon. The prototype was shown yesterday on a different gun channel. Looks vastly more desirable than this overly large single stack.
Just picked up a single stack 9mm Ruger used for $150 😂
I really like seeing it in 30 Super Carry. I adopted 30SC a couple of years ago and carry it daily now. I have been unable to find the 30SC model available on the market yet but I am finding the 9mm for $559 already. I'm going to hit my LGS up to see if they can get the 30SC model
...Just be aware that Super Carry isn't selling well at all, and it's almost for sure going to be harder to find ammunition, and at very high prices. Just like my beloved 45 G.A.P. pistols.
It is still a relatively new caliber which I can hope will gain in popularity BUT I have my bases covered by reloading my own and having a stockpile of ammo I purchased at the end of last year when the prices dropped suddenly. Fingers crossed I have enough preparations to last my lifetime with new or reloaded ammunition. Plus I have found that with a little playing around the 30SC can become a really spicy little round with much the same performance as the upper-end 9mm's and still retain accuracy@@user-rn9sb8wu4h
Just remember, your choices of ammunition weights and types will be extremely limited, and cost 20 to 25 percent more than 9mm. Also, if finding a holster matters, that might be a problem, if you get anything except a Shield or Shield EZ in Super Carry. I personally think that Federal "screwed the pooch", at failing to properly market Super Carry. To be fair, it would have taken a pretty massive marketing effort to educate the most important demographics of seniors, women, and new shooters. Most people with any knowledge of guns whatsoever, are at least familiar with hearing about 9mm and 380. But this new caliber would have been an unknown quantity to them, unless they followed gun news.
Waiting for your take on it
Reminds me a little of the bersa bp9cc
Had my FFL reach out to them to get me one in 30 super carry. Suppose to start shipping in February.
there's a 3rd option too .... use the slide release that is placed right by your right thumb.... lol.
PD10 looks decent, but I was happy to replace my skinny single stack XDS with my Hellcat for EDC. With the 10 round mag the Hellcat doesn’t print at all. I carry an extra 15 rd mag with it. That gives me a good cushion to get back to my rifle. To tame the Hellcat's snappiness with +P ammo, I shoot Underwood's 68gr Xtreme Defender. It’s the perfect rig for me out of everything I’ve seen and tried so far.
Nope. Single stack guns are so 2010 and any gun left on shelves that is a single stack they can't hardly give them away! Still good guns but for the price of this one you can go out and buy two of the other brands they are giving away for 200 bucks or less and make good vehicle stash guns!
Today on Forgotten Weapons
Holy daily carry! Is this finally the real thing after YEARS of waiting for Pincus?
*Lol, a company 'discovers' single stack 1911s.*
No shooting footage? Liked to see how it shoots/operates. Smooth? Jumpy?
Been concealed carrying the Steyr M9-A1 for a decade now and I have yet to find a firearm that would make me replace it.
As usual another great video! Curious to know your thoughts on how this compares to the SW EZ in 30 SC as you have a video out on that. I went with the EZ as it was the only single stack 30 SC option out there. True, no optic cut but I went with a CT pressure activated laser and it’s accurate as all get out. I know some get worked up over the grip safety but it’s been a non-issue for me. I have shot many rounds with a half-assed grip and it still fired every time. I like what I am seeing with the Avidity but wondering if is any better in your opinion. FYI, I like the 30SC so much that I also have the Shield Plus, also a great option. Good to see another maker adopt the 30 SC round.
Looks like Glock and keltec had a baby.
Very keltecish in the grip to me. Not saying that's a bad thing
Looks a lot like the Masada Slim to me. Still waiting on your review of that one. In that I get 13 + 1 of 9mm. And those are CZ 75 pattern mags giving even larger capacity if desired. The only thing missing on the Slim is the rail. That could be fixed if IWI or someone else released a new grip module to add one. Most of the rest of the features are pretty close. Still waiting to see what CZ has in the pipeline for concealed carry.
cz has the p-10 M, but it is single stack with only 7 rounds. I carry the P-10 C myself, and sometimes the S as well. If you're looking for small, but don't want to sacrifice capacity go with the P-10 S. I've owned the P-10 C for 4 years now and the only malfunction i've ever had was due to bad ammo (re-man)
@@EK-yh1oi CZ has something new aimed at the carry market in the works. TFB had an interview with the CEO in which he stated it was coming soon.
Basically an infomercial, money over politics
As far as slingshot or slide release. I prefer the slingshot. I have found living in Northern MN that the slide release is not always reachable or quick to get to when using gloves or mittens. I find that my fingers can slip off the release because of the hand covering. I usually wear mittens that have a slot cut in the palm. The top, mitten part, folds back and my fingers are exposed but not my thumb. At least in the pair I use. I have seen some that the top of the thumb folds back as well, but I don't use those particular type. The flap allows me to use my fingers or just slide my index finger out to activate the trigger, on those really cold days.Rather then trying to get to the slide release, or doing both methods, I find it easier to just use the slingshot method all the time, because it always works, weather I'm wearing mittens or not.
Have you ever felt really stupid going wait a minute my CR920 is super thin. Where the heck is it?
Eventually realizing… oh, yeah. I’m wearing it.
I'm always rooting for the "little guy" entrepreneur versus the big manufacturers, plus more choices for the consumers is great. BUT, this thing has had an excruciating, long drawn out troubled development. Now that it POSSIBLY is reliable, it's at least 5 years to late.
Yep carried the G19 for years, now I carry the G45 the last few years. So I went to an even bigger gun lol. I’m moving the opposite way of what the trend is lol. My life story.
This whole video seems like it should have come out 5 years ago
I actually like this gun so I need to hurry up and buy it before they’re out of business
Good one!
You had best hasten to the closest dealer, REALLY SOON !!
So another single stack 9mm striker fire with a full size handle? A sacrifice on both concealability and capacity for a higher cost? 😂 Hard pass.
Winter glove pistol shooting was a serious obstacle with my 19 at an evening low light class this month. I edc the 19 and wear gloves daily for my job and it presented a serious problem with shooting the gun that one night especially with one handed edc light manipulations and safely getting on the trigger and oddly getting out of the trigger my finger would get bound up and had me wondering what what other comparable pistols in your experience are better for winter gloves. I appreciate any guidance you have with all the platforms you have come across
CZs have generously sized trigger guards.
Rob Pincus? Eh…
Is he one of those "tactical trainers" who are more likely to get you killed a horrible, stupid death than anything?
30SC is DOA in case you haven't heard. Get your hands on a PSA Micro Dagger. 15+1 9mm Glock 43x clone and runs 360 for the comped slide version.
Also I can confirm that CZcams unsubscribed me from your channel.
Good video yes sir 💯💯💯💯💯
As a guy with giant hands, the toe on the magazines is a no go. My hand overhangs everything not a full size.
I was very excited for this pistol to carry 8-10 years ago when it was first announced as being "right around the corner." Now I just don't see a market for it compared to at least 10 other/better options. They need to make a second version asap that has a staggered mag and at least 15 rounds on that length of a grip, or shorter grip and 10-12 rounds, with cost at or below $499 to make it worth it today.
Can you do a video on the springfied m1a? I know you did the fulton m14, but it would be nice to see how you feel on the m1a.
Mag release is currently not ambidextrous. Frame is molded for it in case they decide to add the feature later.
Outside of the it being extremely thin, what is this doing better than all the other current firearms on the market in this class? I’m not giving up my 365xl, or the Glock 43x for this.
For states with 10 shot limitation the 9mm is still interesting. But I still like the dimensions of a very slim compact size pistol. The Grip is still slimmer than a G43x even G43. The capacity of 10 shot is also ok.
Might as well get a 365xl and have a few x macro mags for backup.
That’s what it reminds me of, especially how thin it is.
Have no idea why I would want to buy this. That trigger is super off putting.
Yay he finally reviewed something I can afford 😂
I was wondering about 30 super carry. From your side of things how is it holding up. I a 380 1911 style gun and I love it. I shoot it well and it's easy to carry. However I'm not a big fan of 380 caliber. It shares the same problem as 45acp. It came out in a time where guns were being transitioned from black powder to smokeless powder and fmj or lead ball ammo was standard for the day. Also the automatic loader from revolvers were still pretty new. That being said 380 and 45 acp are hard to find and get good defense hollow point bullets that actually work. 9mm was designed for a little higher chamber pressures and more bullet speed so defense hollow point bullets are easy to find. I have high hopes for 30 super carry but I was worried that it would be a flash in the pan or short lived fad. My next defense hand gun will probably be 30 super carry. It has the ballistics I like, good overall performance. I really like the gun you featured today. If they get the 30 super carry magazine worked out and in production I would like to get one. I'm odd. I know most defense gunfights only use the capacity of the gun and rarely use reload or spare mags, but I'm a firm believer of being prepared and having 2 extra spare mags. That's the main reason I carry my 380 1911 over my 45acp or 9mm. I have 2 spare mags with one in the gun for it. My others I have 1 spare mag and one in the gun. It's not about capacity, it's about reliability and it's easier to grab a spare magazine when you have a couple in your pocket.
30 Super Carry is Top Shelf ! More capacity is a huge W
My new carry round
@@MR.IceCreamMan93 One of the best handgun cartridges on the planet 🌎
I would have to ask, how many rounds do you put through it to train every six months? Genuine curiosity. From the dealers that I know, the feedback from their customers is they hardly ever go shooting because of cost and availability. Which is a big big issue. The average 9mm ccw owner shoots a few hundred every six months at a min.
@@craines588where did you get your data from?
@@thepracticalrifleman distributers, other dealers, I am an sot, federal and their productions vs orders of it. If it has a less procurement than 380, then….. am I saying dump the round? No. But in a time where people are correctly saying train, it’s a perishable skill. And you have a round that people are not putting the money into 🤷♂️. Stick with 9mm, buy bulk and shoot more is my opinion
Maximum capacity within compatible compact frames with a cartridge that excells in terminal performance is what the 30SC is. In today's society, I'm carrying those extra payloads everytime. I'm all in, dies, ammo, ect. Im so hoping Sig will come onboard with a P365 in 30SC. I really wish this new offering was double stack...
BTW, IM LOVING MY SHIELD PLUS IN 30SC! It's proved dependable and easy to conceal for me...
I only full size carry (fnx45) but this looks like a neat carry for mowing the grass or going in gym shorts. GA allows open carry. The red dot looks nice. Great video. 😎
Better, proven, higher quality guns out there though.
AA pistol slide serrations are "different" from any other pistol. Most pistols with slanted cocking serrations are angled to prevent your fingers from slipping up and off. This AA pistol is not just different, it is backwards from vertical serrations of the 1911, for example.
Plastic rear slide rails on the frame are not a selling point. If plastic is good for frame's slide rails, the the front rails should also be plastic. Plastic is asking for the rails to break; and to get chewed in dusty conditions. So, the rear frame slide rail should also be metal.
If dust does not wear the plastic rails, it will imbed in the plastic and wear the steel slide rails.
Do not fall into the "change" trap. Improvement has value. Change for the sake of being different is not an improvement.
Should have swapped the mags for 365 mags. I can get 15-17 rounds in a similar package.
I just bought a Glock 43X MOS and I honestly never really cared for Glocks too much but I think I’m starting to get the allure. I love this thing for carrying. I think I’ll stick with that.
good looking pistol seems pretty well thought out. hopefully it works well and gets adopted by the people. also, I do love a good single stack.
So is this any better than the G43's or the P365's that are popular today? That tiny Ruger 9c or S&W Shield? Such a flooded market with established support. I just don't see this one though it is cool.
Tim I use my finger to unlock the slide because my second hand sometimes isn't strong enough. Fact of life. ALSO if you slam the mag really hard inertia charges the action.
They will sell tens of these
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At first glance I was hoping this would be like a SA Echelon for EDC, like a Macro or Hellcat Pro. After watching it seems like a modernized or tactical Khar pistol. At least with the width, magazine, and trigger.
The new KAHR double stack prototype was just revealed on a CZcams gun channel yesterday. I'm very excited to see that this long rumored pistol is going to finally be available soon.
I've been waiting for a pistol of proper "compact" size in .30 Super Carry for a while now, as I think the cartridge has been squandered in micros (and that expensive Nighthawk). Maybe this will be the right sized platform for it?
My Grandfather taught me that loading methodology he learned from somewhere on his 1911 that had almost no bluing left on it, I love that gun, just waiting on my cousin to die to get it into my collection 😂. Seriously 😅
Looks like a Bersa!
If an actually reliable Avidity P10 could have come to market even 3 years ago, they'd likely be selling well today. Sig started the rush to develop high capacity pistols, forcing other companies to do it to. The P10 might seem obsolete to many buyers.
the PD10 seems promising