Why I won't carry the CZ Shadow 2 Compact.

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    The CZ Shadow 2 Compact is a very nicely made handgun, but it has some design features that make me not want to carry it. I break down why I prefer the CZ P01 Compact to the new CZ Shadow 2 Compact.
    #CZ #Shadow2 #carrygun
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  • @danielhalloran459
    @danielhalloran459 Před 2 měsíci +192

    Tip for CZ dis-assemble: if you put the hammer in half-cock you can then simply push the slide back and it will stop at the mark correctly for the cross pin to be pushed out.

  • @dadadadada4974
    @dadadadada4974 Před 2 měsíci +293

    “I haven’t spoken to anyone at CZ, they don’t talk to me anymore” 😆 😂 🤣

    • @ChaohsiangChen
      @ChaohsiangChen Před 2 měsíci +14

      Since Colt took over CZ USA, they pretty much run the marketing and PR now.

    • @jbloun911
      @jbloun911 Před 2 měsíci +11

      ​@@ChaohsiangChenColt stands for Cancer

    • @enscroggs
      @enscroggs Před 2 měsíci +28

      @@ChaohsiangChen I think you have that relationship back to front. From the Colt CZ Group Wikipedia article: "On 11 February 2021 the European company announced the acquisition of the Colt Holding Company (the parent company to the Colt's Manufacturing Company from the US) for $220 million, enabling further expansion into the U.S. market."

    • @ChaohsiangChen
      @ChaohsiangChen Před 2 měsíci +23

      @enscroggs
      Words from the attendees of 2024 shot show are that the Colt team replaced much of the original CZ USA crew. Colt was very good at politics, better than they are making guns.

    • @Andrew_182
      @Andrew_182 Před 2 měsíci +11

      @ChaonsiangChen
      This aligns with what I’ve heard and seen too. Despite CZ buying Colt, Colt seems to be taking the lead on US operations. There are even S2C’s hitting peoples hands recently with CT (Colt HQ) roll marks as opposed to KS (CZ-USA HQ) roll marks.

  • @tomfouse3916
    @tomfouse3916 Před 2 měsíci +166

    I have carried the P07 for 3 years now. I really think it’s one of the best handguns out there

    • @elterga6224
      @elterga6224 Před 2 měsíci +5

      I love mine, I trust it with my life

    • @Lexman00
      @Lexman00 Před měsícem +3

      Did you get it Cajunized?

    • @markcam1965
      @markcam1965 Před měsícem +4

      Agreed! Certainly an overlooked handgun. It's also what I carry along with my pdp compact

    • @DTWCT
      @DTWCT Před měsícem +6

      ​@Lexman00 ​@JNOSNOW I just compared my p07 with stock internals to another one with a full Cajun trigger and my double action was way smoother just from shooting it a lot. The only noticeable difference was the shorter reset

    • @corbindallas1954
      @corbindallas1954 Před měsícem +8

      ​@@Lexman00 I cajunized my P01 and the trigger return spring gave out after about 1k rounds. I'd just leave it stock tbh.

  • @bruinranger13
    @bruinranger13 Před měsícem +36

    MAC the staccato doesn’t have a firing pin block either, and you carried that.

    • @chadwickhodulik2311
      @chadwickhodulik2311 Před 21 dnem +1

      Yeah I don't get it lost me AZ a fan goodnight

    • @shigityshigityshwa
      @shigityshigityshwa Před 18 dny +4

      That’s because he needed something sensationalist to make a video about

    • @generallobster
      @generallobster Před 16 dny +2

      Don’t bring up the 1911 with him, he will probably say that he loves the platform, but there are more modern guns that have replaced it’s purpose. That answer sort of addresses the inconsistency, but doesn’t address why he hasn’t brought up the same issue specifically with the 1911. He will probably answer by not answering the question.

    • @SolidBren
      @SolidBren Před 16 dny

      @@generallobster Maybe he would carry a series 80 gun, but not a series 70. Then again, are all of the Staccato pistols basically series 70 in terms of lacking a firing pin plunger? I think he has more confidence in an extended one sided manual safety as well over an ambidextrous one. And he is not a fan of a safety on a double action gun, especially when it doesn't even have a decocker.

    • @walterlangkowski4723
      @walterlangkowski4723 Před 10 dny +2

      You’re comparing apples to oranges
      Any 1911/2011 carried as designed (cocked and locked) have a pretty well thought out lock work that prevents the hammer from falling and actually reaching the firing pin without both that frame and grip safety being disengaged and trigger being pressed.

  • @shigityshigityshwa
    @shigityshigityshwa Před měsícem +70

    Mac is the only channel on CZcams that makes a video on a topic that is a half hour long with the first 25 minutes rambling about stuff not related to the video title.

    • @9unslin9er
      @9unslin9er Před měsícem +1

      1) A "half hour" is 30 minutes. Because I have eyeballs, I can see this video is 26 minutes 38 seconds long.
      2) Just to entertain your statement, I clocked the 25 minute mark to check if he does state why he won't carry this gun, in the last minute and 38 seconds. He doesn't. He goes into his outro.
      So I'm going to assume you are just impatient and rude.

    • @adamhearts9195
      @adamhearts9195 Před 6 dny

      but what about his gloves 🧤 that won't fit????!!!? we need ti hear about that dead horse 🐴 again
      ​@@9unslin9er

  • @FireBoxCampaign
    @FireBoxCampaign Před měsícem +7

    I started my CC journey about 6 years ago. Your original PO-1 video is what i loved. Ive since carried other stiker fired guns and have had a good experience but always reverted back to the po1. Its perfect.

  • @stevenibsen6615
    @stevenibsen6615 Před 2 měsíci +33

    Totally agree. P01 is a fantastic option.

  • @asathomas84
    @asathomas84 Před 2 měsíci +68

    I don't remember where I heard, but the Shadow 2 Compact is not replacing the P-01. Just like the Shadow 2 didn't replace the SP-01.

    • @cavalieroutdoors6036
      @cavalieroutdoors6036 Před 2 měsíci +9

      It's a shame they discontinued the P01 Omega though, that thing is nice.

    • @jbloun911
      @jbloun911 Před 2 měsíci +10

      P01 is a NATO pistol. Not going anywhere and its a CZ OG like the 75 now

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @cavalieroutdoors6036
      Yeah the omega were the best but the bad part was that their safety would fall out of the gun. I also got mad that the safety was so floppy and weak stock

    • @kennethbaker5223
      @kennethbaker5223 Před 2 měsíci

      @@cavalieroutdoors6036 Fantastic pistol.

  • @Questtt3
    @Questtt3 Před měsícem +4

    As always, great video Tim - Thanks! In terms of your carry preference, always wondered what happened to your P-01 and P-01 Omega. Despite all the newer offerings you visited/carried subsequently (both hammer and striker fired), it's nice to see your earlier P-01 carry criteria and decision still holds up.

  • @BigBear--
    @BigBear-- Před 2 měsíci +99

    Yeah...this is BS. I've talked to the gunsmiths at Cajun Gun Works, and they cracked up when I mentioned this as an "issue" for not carrying the Shadow 2 (compact or full size). Bottom line is it takes a tremendous amount of force to break the hammer, safety, or sear on these. A ton more force than any drop can do. They said you can take a hammer and beat on a fully cocked hammer and that thing still won't break (easily anyway). So if drops are your concern for carry safety, you're fine with this. Even with the safety off, and you drop it, you have to break the sear for the hammer to make contact with the pin...which is also super strong. If you're worried about breaking that many things before the gun fires, you're sorta worrying about the wrong safety aspects of carry.

    • @theodorehunter4765
      @theodorehunter4765 Před 2 měsíci +12

      The only thing I will agree with him about the Shadow 2 is that the safety is REALLY mushy. I don't know if that can be fixed, but I'd be interested in having someone make it more tactile, like a 1911.
      But yeah, if you carry a Glock and you complain about the ineffectiveness of safeties on other guns, I don't know what to tell you.

    • @shawnelobet9820
      @shawnelobet9820 Před měsícem +1

      Yup you right

    • @Sirgromulus
      @Sirgromulus Před měsícem +6

      @@theodorehunter4765 Cajun offers a stiffer detent plunger and spring that provide a more positive detent.

    • @TheGV50
      @TheGV50 Před měsícem +2

      CZ should Thank Cajun Gun Works for making their "Rough Around The Edges Pistols" really Top Notch Firearms! It's amazing how many Quality Control Issues CZ Pistols have when they leave the factory. And I'm quoting Cajun Gun Works David Millan!

    • @Weakeyedominant
      @Weakeyedominant Před měsícem +3

      ​@@TheGV50hes obviously going to say that to encourage customers to buy his after market parts for more than just lighter springs and refined hammer.
      Less than 10 years ago most CZs were considered cheap eastern European guns.

  • @Amir_Nassir
    @Amir_Nassir Před 2 měsíci +101

    This is why i carry unchambered, no mag, slide tucked in my boot

    • @davidbunney3497
      @davidbunney3497 Před měsícem +5

      Is that a true/honest comment or r u just a fool?

    • @chriss8193
      @chriss8193 Před měsícem +30

      @@davidbunney3497tf do you think

    • @Trip1443
      @Trip1443 Před měsícem +6

      Such a wise carry option but the even more safer carry option is to carry a Cannon safe with a biometric/combination/keyed lock with a chamber flag lock in the safe. I've never had an ND for the many years I've been carying. Don't forget that Cannon offers an NRA member discount, God bless

    • @Billard9mm
      @Billard9mm Před měsícem +5

      Just turn your gun in to the atf. That's the safest carry method.

    • @harleymitchell2940
      @harleymitchell2940 Před měsícem +8

      I hope you have the spring tucked in your other boot. Can't be too safe.

  • @tberkoff
    @tberkoff Před 2 měsíci +108

    Your argument against the Shadow is the same argument that all 1911s should be Series 80 models. No thanks. Series 70 1911s are just fine and perfectly safe.

    • @user-vk7jz1tc1l
      @user-vk7jz1tc1l Před měsícem +8

      And his "laziness" counterargument is simply false. There is no "engineering" that will make a Series 80 trigger as good as a Series 70. Pretravel or creep is inherent / required for Series 80 function. In terms of equalizing pull weight, the alternatives (lighten the sear spring and/or change sear geometry, increasing likelihood of ND; or lighten the trigger spring further, increasing likelihood of failure to reset) are much worse than the risks with a Series 70.

    • @otterconnor942
      @otterconnor942 Před měsícem +10

      Series 70 is for the range, series 80 is for carry. You would have heard him say that if you watched the video

    • @JohnOgren
      @JohnOgren Před měsícem +31

      ​@otterconnor942 yet, he admitted he carried a Staccato all winter, which is series 70 😅

    • @o.w.i.m
      @o.w.i.m Před měsícem +1

      @@JohnOgren Doubt he did that appendix though.

    • @diamondaranda336
      @diamondaranda336 Před měsícem +2

      It's my "job"... that's a hobby.

  • @jonkraner
    @jonkraner Před 2 měsíci +16

    P01 has been my EDC since you first recommended it years ago. Still my favorite. Back up is a Cajunized CZ P07.

  • @brianscustomcanvas1911
    @brianscustomcanvas1911 Před měsícem +2

    I just picked up a cz75d compact PCR and absolutely love it and to echo your thoughts those are the same reasons I didn't buy the shadow 2 compact. Great video well explained.

  • @dennistonbrown254
    @dennistonbrown254 Před měsícem +1

    I'm so glad I came across your video. I was literally heading to my gun store website to buy the Shadow 2 when I just happened to glance at my feed and saw the title of your video. I'll definitely be sticking with my p01.

    • @celphalonred1999
      @celphalonred1999 Před měsícem

      Don't listen.
      The points he made has already been completed debunked as false.
      Especially about not being dropsafe.

    • @rkpagano
      @rkpagano Před 27 dny

      Please make up your own mind. CZcamsrs are not infallible just because they make good videos.

  • @70bonnevilleguy53
    @70bonnevilleguy53 Před měsícem +10

    I bought a PO1 Omega used for $470, which turns out was sent to CZ for custom shop work, appears the sights and some sorta trigger work. Probably been the best sub $500 gun purchase ever.

  • @meddlesome9252
    @meddlesome9252 Před měsícem +10

    I carry a CZ 75 Compact daily. I was in the LGS and saw it sitting there and just was instantly drawn to check it out. The moment I held it, I knew I had to buy it. It's at just over 1000 rounds without a single hiccup. It's a nail driver too, I just put rounds where I aim.

  • @guymcdudeman9030
    @guymcdudeman9030 Před měsícem +1

    Great info and well presented.
    You might want to consider putting the table-top disassemble segment into a CZcams "short" style video, as that was the true heart of the explanation.
    I also applaud you for mentioning the all to common problem with gloves and pistols.
    I think every gun manufacturer other than HK thinks everybody lives in California.

  • @eddavis5938
    @eddavis5938 Před 25 dny

    You do an excellent job, at reviewing guns and sharing your knowledgable options.

  • @JRxxx
    @JRxxx Před 2 měsíci +77

    There is a video called "Shadow 2 Compact - Drop Safe?" the guy hammers on the hammer (seemingly with the hammer all the way down) and it doesn't even touch the primer. Then he put in an extended firing pin and repeated the test, it made contacted with the primer. So as long as you don't put an extended firing pin in, it's drop safe.

    • @theredexpresss6629
      @theredexpresss6629 Před 2 měsíci +28

      its actually hilarious people will go and spend 1300-2000 on a pistol and have no fucking clue what makes it safe/unsafe. listening to internet rumors instead of watching a guy smack it with a hammer and nothing happening.

    • @Sirgromulus
      @Sirgromulus Před 2 měsíci +16

      ​@theredexpresss6629 Exactly, as evidenced by sp many of the clueless posters here who actually think this is some sort of "cost cutting" by CZ.

    • @alfiocaldelari9930
      @alfiocaldelari9930 Před 2 měsíci +13

      Came here to say the same thing. I saw that very same video and the dude really whacked that hammer hard and the firing pin did not touch the primer (w/ the factory firing pin. With the extended aftermarket ones, a whole different ballgame).

    • @ericwilliams9191
      @ericwilliams9191 Před měsícem +1

      I watched the same one a bit ago. I was just to lazy to say something

  • @JamNJoeyJ
    @JamNJoeyJ Před 2 měsíci +3

    Great video, Tim, as always!! I too like my P-01. Maybe your next video down the road should be your optic choice, post slide cut on P-01.

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  Před 2 měsíci +2

      I'm going to use a EPS or EPS Carry on the gun I believe. I'm into the close emitter RDS's.

  • @mozzberg590
    @mozzberg590 Před 2 měsíci +137

    MAC: I don't like changing parts
    1 minute later MAC: I changed the trigger on my CZ

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  Před 2 měsíci +69

      You left out the other half, I don’t like changing parts on $3500 handguns.

    • @ChaohsiangChen
      @ChaohsiangChen Před 2 měsíci +7

      And CGW trigger kit is like 70 plus change in 2024.

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  Před 2 měsíci +22

      @@ChaohsiangChen They're not expensive, and I had Cajun in stall it. With a high end 1911, the internal parts are properly hand fit by the factory. To get another trigger in it, I would want Staccato to do it so it's properly fit... but that could take forever, assuming they would even do it.

    • @jbloun911
      @jbloun911 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@Militaryarmschannelstop fighting 🥺 please

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Modifying an expensive gun for competition use is my favorite part of gun owning

  • @codebebop
    @codebebop Před 28 dny

    Thanks Tim for another in-depth review. I saw a few other videos from other CZcamsrs and some failed to mention the firing pin block safety and a couple actually said it had a firing pin block safety, which clearly tells me they never broke the gun down and inspected it. Anyway thanks again from a long time subscriber 👍.

  • @KartiacKID
    @KartiacKID Před měsícem

    Definitely have to agree with you on the passive pin safety after just learning about the passive it from you and thank you for that knowledge.

  • @daltonv5206
    @daltonv5206 Před 2 měsíci +103

    The firing pin block/drop safe issue has been debunked already. There are videos on here where czarmorer hammers the hammer (literally) trying to get a primer strike and he couldn't even get it to dent. Shadow 2's are drop safe as long as you don't run an extended firing pin. Per the user manual you should carry half cocked no safety

    • @officerdailey
      @officerdailey Před 2 měsíci +9

      Incorrect. All marketing and damage control. Sir Isaac Newton confirmed many years ago that, absent a physical barrier, that gun will absolutely fire if stuck from the correct angle. In the published tests the hammers and sears didn't break. I'm the real world, hammers and sears can break, and it could be yours that does.

    • @theredexpresss6629
      @theredexpresss6629 Před 2 měsíci +32

      @@officerdailey but it hasnt happened, youre telling this guy hes incorrect based on youre opinion of what COULD happen. people have LITERALLY smacked the ass end of shadow 2s and nothing has happened.......youd have a higher likelihood of loading a factory double charged round, are you going to go weight each and ever round based on what COULD happen?

    • @geronimo5537
      @geronimo5537 Před 2 měsíci +7

      If you cannot get it to fire after hammering on it directly. Then mechanically it is perfectly safe. Though I do agree with Mac that the engineering looks lazy aka streamlined.

    • @rcwarrior868
      @rcwarrior868 Před měsícem +25

      ​@@officerdaileystaccatos dont have a firing pin block either...and many LEOs carry those as well after vigorous testing.

    • @packetloss7984
      @packetloss7984 Před měsícem

      No thanks!

  • @marksd5650
    @marksd5650 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Interesting and thank you. My wife was just handling one today and neither one of us can rack the slide easily because of the rails and the low profile of the slide. Osteoarthritis in the hands, can’t grip the real estate well enough. We did not disassemble the gun in the store, so it was good to see what you explained. She will continue to carry her Wilson Combat 1911 Professional. Best Regards

    • @westcoastwarriorsarchive7929
      @westcoastwarriorsarchive7929 Před měsícem +1

      my dad has arthritis in his hands and cant rack the slide on a lot of guns either. We got it optics cut and put a red dot on it and now its got plenty of grip space to rack the slide.

  • @CyberTankMan
    @CyberTankMan Před měsícem +2

    Thanks for the info. Learnt something new. 👍

  • @Rompet0t0
    @Rompet0t0 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you for this insightful and important video.

  • @jonjonckheer5063
    @jonjonckheer5063 Před 2 měsíci +4

    Oof thank you for this! I was eyeing the Shadow 2 compact hard! You just saved me 600$! I’m going to the P01! 😁

  • @allenneva5213
    @allenneva5213 Před 2 měsíci +12

    Great video, I prefer metal frame guns as well. My current CCW is the Sig p229 Legion SAO.

    • @Sig_P229
      @Sig_P229 Před 2 měsíci +2

      P229 is hard to beat. Mine has tens of thousands of rounds. No hiccups except needing a new extractor spring and recoil springs.

    • @lancedooley7558
      @lancedooley7558 Před 2 měsíci

      A great metal gun. I have the p220 equinox. 320's are junk. They also don't even have a full size 45. It's pathetic.

    • @eindride1268
      @eindride1268 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@lancedooley7558 320's aren't junk, people just have no fucking clue what it's good at. It's a big bulky wannabe P226 that fails at mimicking it in most ways. That being said, it's phenomenal as a custom/target pistol. Virtually any build a handgun could have, you could replicate it and optimize it to the max. That being said, as a practical duty handgun, dogshit

    • @Wachtier
      @Wachtier Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@Sig_P229the only complaint I’ve ever had with mine is how easy some of the springs are to accidentally bend when removing the one piece grips, but it’s literally a two dollar spring and five minutes of work to fix. 229s (especially now that optic slides are available) are just about perfect carry guns.

  • @renerey34
    @renerey34 Před měsícem

    Really great information, Thanks

  • @scruffww3495
    @scruffww3495 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Excellent food for thought on both platforms. Makes me appreciate my P-01 that much more.

  • @RyanSmith-qf6tn
    @RyanSmith-qf6tn Před 2 měsíci +10

    Carried a lot of different options and have settled on the M&P 2.0 Compact, just the right fit for me

    • @cmkeelDIM
      @cmkeelDIM Před 2 měsíci +5

      Best grip stippling on any pistol. I carry the 45Shield and that grip is SOLID even after shooting for an hour in Florida during the atmospheric soup they call "Summer".

    • @RyanSmith-qf6tn
      @RyanSmith-qf6tn Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@cmkeelDIM heck yeah man, I fully agree

    • @rl2862
      @rl2862 Před měsícem

      @@cmkeelDIMI walked outside in Miami and my skin felt like it was coated in a constant film of liquid, idk how yall do it

    • @rl2862
      @rl2862 Před měsícem

      But yes, M&P is the best I’ve found

    • @cmkeelDIM
      @cmkeelDIM Před měsícem +2

      @@rl2862 Miami is different than the panhandle. It's not nearly as bad down there as up here. Up here the humidity hits 93% in late April or Early May and stays there until late September early October. It only excursion is to 99%. Miami gets less humidity than we do here.

  • @pro2a693
    @pro2a693 Před měsícem +5

    this is why p01 omega still my best carry gun for me 😊😊

  • @juggernautgrant
    @juggernautgrant Před měsícem

    This was helpful thank you!

  • @shawnpappy1538
    @shawnpappy1538 Před měsícem

    Great observations and another great video.

  • @schneir5
    @schneir5 Před měsícem +26

    I've been carrying a full size Shadow 2 for years. To each their own.

    • @fishinfool3795
      @fishinfool3795 Před měsícem

      You have got to be rail thin to hide that. I have an S2 and would not dream of carrying it with any real confidence in it being "concealed". Hell, a P01 will print if I don't wear a hoodie.

  • @robertcainjr.7627
    @robertcainjr.7627 Před 2 měsíci +25

    Love my 75 and P09. Accurate, reliable and just sexy!

  • @petermccuskey1832
    @petermccuskey1832 Před měsícem

    Great info. Thank you!

  • @joeyphillips1181
    @joeyphillips1181 Před měsícem +1

    Your the dude that sold me on the CZ P01 and P10C and they are 2 of my favorite handguns now.. I also really like the S&W M&P 2.0 compact & shield plus

    • @joeyphillips1181
      @joeyphillips1181 Před měsícem

      Besides the previous mentioned the G19X, G20 gen 5, Tanfoglio defiant stock 10mm, S&W 686+, and a few others are all some of my favorites

  • @82lowe36id
    @82lowe36id Před 2 měsíci +19

    A few years ago you put out a video stating the CZ P01 was your new choice for carry. Then you did a video on the LTT 92 compact. Two great options for sure!

    • @nautic_knight
      @nautic_knight Před 2 měsíci

      No one has just one carry gun

    • @OscarDad
      @OscarDad Před měsícem

      Have a P01. Love it. I'd love to try a LTT 92. and a HK P30sk

  • @hunteranderson93
    @hunteranderson93 Před 2 měsíci +23

    I totally agree. I would love to see a micro compact or even sub compact CZ 75 type, optic cut, DA/SA with decocker only and a light rail. That would be about the perfect carry gun for me.

    • @TortillaChip521
      @TortillaChip521 Před 2 měsíci +2

      You are describing the P-01 after an optic cut at a gunsmith.

    • @ala5294
      @ala5294 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@TortillaChip521 More like a P-01 RAMI

    • @detroitvseverybody3813
      @detroitvseverybody3813 Před 2 měsíci

      Micro compact is too small for a traditional DA/SA mechanism

    • @brambo7383
      @brambo7383 Před 2 měsíci +9

      Did you say improved return of the 2075 RAMI?

    • @RewardedRocki
      @RewardedRocki Před měsícem +3

      @@detroitvseverybody3813 The S&W 380 Bodyguard with it's double action hammer or the single action CSX would beg to differ.

  • @antonioadinolfi4052
    @antonioadinolfi4052 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video, very well explained 😊

  • @markp6062
    @markp6062 Před měsícem

    Great info. I was thinking I wanted one, but I'm with you on the decocker VS safety and DA/SA. Looks like I'll get the cheaper one!

  • @92naz32
    @92naz32 Před 2 měsíci +30

    These are some of the same reasons I went back to carrying my made in Germany, two-tone Sig P228. By far the safest gun I own for daily carry, has great ergonomics, reliable, accurate & shoots amazingly well for a 30-year-old gun, and it looks great. RDS on a pistol is not necessary for me, so I'm good with my "old school" double action/single action Sig.

    • @Sig_P229
      @Sig_P229 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Too true

    • @MrBigtom06
      @MrBigtom06 Před 2 měsíci +4

      I agree with everything you said. I have a sp2022 in 40cal. It is a great gun but a little heavy for carrying. That's why I got a p250sc.

    • @michaelstjohn6086
      @michaelstjohn6086 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@MrBigtom06 2022 and 250 NEVER got enough praise!

    • @bilbobaggins8876
      @bilbobaggins8876 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Love my 228.

    • @MrBigtom06
      @MrBigtom06 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@michaelstjohn6086 I agree 100%.

  • @coopersand911
    @coopersand911 Před 2 měsíci +13

    I carry a Jericho 941r.
    It isnt the most comfortable to carry but i shoot it well as it is my favorite pistol. I say carry what you shoot best, but thats just my opinion

    • @phantom4060
      @phantom4060 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Same. I recently just went from a kimber k6s to a beretta 92x for carry. Harder and more uncomfy to carry but it’s like shooting a laser.

    • @tormentorxl2732
      @tormentorxl2732 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@phantom4060something about the berettas that is exquisite perfection.

    • @cavalieroutdoors6036
      @cavalieroutdoors6036 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I don't necessarily carry what I shoot the best, bit I do have a minimum accuracy requirement for my carry pistols. Once a gun meets that threshold, then I can consider other things. Currently my go-to is a fist generation M&P 40. Barely squeaks by in the accuracy department, meets everything else I want in terms of capacity, reliability, and presence of an accessory rail.

    • @coopersand911
      @coopersand911 Před 2 měsíci

      @@cavalieroutdoors6036 Yeah, I think it's always good to know what you are looking for in your carry gun

  • @JR15A2
    @JR15A2 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The CZ P-01 is also my first choice for a compact DA/SA carry gun. If you spend the money you save over the Shadow 2 compact at Cajun Gun Works, you won't miss out on much. I did the same thing with an SP-01 Tactical after I already owned a Shadow 2 and was surprised at the results. It turned out to be an amazing shooter. I was able to install all of the parts myself too. My Dad loved it so much I had to give it to him, though, so I don't have it anymore.

  • @sebastiancassatt4044
    @sebastiancassatt4044 Před měsícem

    Thank you for pointing that out especially to us newbies in the 2A community. Still learning all the different style safeties in firearms. I have however learned that im not a big striker fired fan, i tend to lean towards steel framed hammer fired weapons🤷‍♂️

  • @toddk1377
    @toddk1377 Před 2 měsíci +5

    I think it's a solid way of viewing what and why one would or would not carry a specific gun. From a safety standpoint, I think it's a solid argument, especially when we are talking about EDC and we all know, we have all gotten complacent at some time or another on something we shouldn't. Me personally, I carry striker fired pistols, but I do always make note to look at my holster when I intend to holster my gun, which imo, is the best thing you can do to make sure that trigger is clear until it's fully seated in the holster.

  • @Quality_Guru
    @Quality_Guru Před měsícem +4

    The P01 is not half the price if you prefer to mount an optic. You have to send it out to get milled, then cerakote it, and then finally get an optimized trigger job.

  • @j.a.shepard1312
    @j.a.shepard1312 Před měsícem +1

    I went from a Sig P365 to a S&W CSX..love the feel of the CSX and very easy to conceal...love the all aluminum blend frame..people have complained about the trigger but I have had no problems with mine..sweet little pistol

  • @MHendrix
    @MHendrix Před 18 dny +1

    Excellent information! Although this could have been a 5 minute video and provided the same intel. But I love this channel.

  • @MattDG91
    @MattDG91 Před 2 měsíci +5

    DA/SA forever! Great info!

  • @Goldeader
    @Goldeader Před 2 měsíci +16

    Just bought a shadow 2 and compact this month. The compact has already replaced my staccato C2 for my concealed carry.

    • @jimmysmith3255
      @jimmysmith3255 Před měsícem +1

      Staccato? Cz shadow compact? Carry? Hahaha somebody has to keep up with the Johnsons do we?

    • @RM-ub1xd
      @RM-ub1xd Před měsícem +1

      The hi point shoots the same round. I’m sure whatever it hits wouldn’t know what brand it came from 😂

    • @4liter
      @4liter Před 6 dny +1

      @@jimmysmith3255 cries in poor

    • @DriesOG
      @DriesOG Před 2 dny +1

      I have a C2 currently, also have a P-01 that's optic milled. Love them both, but really considering a shadow 2 compact for EDC, I just don't know that I honestly need it lol...

    • @Goldeader
      @Goldeader Před 2 dny

      @@DriesOG the shadow 2 are worth the penny over a p01

  • @justhavingfun0736
    @justhavingfun0736 Před 20 dny

    Great review Mac

  • @randalljeffs7272
    @randalljeffs7272 Před 2 měsíci +2

    What you want is the CZ Custom PCR. Checks all the boxes you mentioned plus lighter, thinner, better trigger, decocker, upgraded sights. It has it all

  • @FromPlsNerf
    @FromPlsNerf Před 2 měsíci +41

    I carry a CZ PCR...love it.

    • @shuma_dinac0329
      @shuma_dinac0329 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Its so hard to find those 😢

    • @ChaohsiangChen
      @ChaohsiangChen Před 2 měsíci +6

      The only thing that stopped me from buying a PCR is the P01 in my gun safe.

    • @Joe-hz1nw
      @Joe-hz1nw Před 2 měsíci +1

      I love DA/SA, I’m just objectively faster out of the holster to first shot, or even out of the holster all the way up to 3 shots with a striker fired pistol.
      It’s not a skill issue, I shot competition for years with a Beretta 92, even winning occasionally. A shorter, lighter trigger is always faster, and the first to put shots on target almost always wins the fight.

    • @bobwampler3387
      @bobwampler3387 Před 2 měsíci

      You and me both.

    • @inlikeflynt56
      @inlikeflynt56 Před měsícem

      Same

  • @jesseterrell2109
    @jesseterrell2109 Před 2 měsíci +179

    There is no perfect handgun only opinion.

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  Před 2 měsíci +60

      I made it quite clear in my video that this is my person preference. No one can tell you want you will like.

    • @K-bob_45
      @K-bob_45 Před 2 měsíci +12

      Hk P2000 in LEM is the perfect carry pistol.

    • @kevinmichael979
      @kevinmichael979 Před 2 měsíci +3

      ​@@K-bob_45I vote USP, I specifically got them because of the glove issue, but it depends if I carry them or the folding Glock due to absolute concealment.

    • @EgoFiveFiveSix
      @EgoFiveFiveSix Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@K-bob_45😂

    • @Sig_P229
      @Sig_P229 Před 2 měsíci +8

      @@kevinmichael979see I live in the desert like Death Valley. Gloves are irrelevant. Personal preference also includes geographic location too.

  • @michaelthrelkeld212
    @michaelthrelkeld212 Před 2 měsíci

    You make some very well thought out points.

  • @hangnwithdosei3266
    @hangnwithdosei3266 Před 2 měsíci +19

    You highlighted one of my pet peeves of many holster manufacturers. A properly designed / manufactured holster for a 1911 should, imho, FORCE the safety up into the safe position when holstering the handgun...thus it is also impossible for the safety to ever be inadvertently disengaged while it is in the holster. It's something I always looked for when buying holsters for handguns with external manual safeties.

    • @user-ul1so3yy5l
      @user-ul1so3yy5l Před 2 měsíci +2

      Well it’s DA too not SA only, so a holster that did this wouldn’t work for anyone running DA/SA

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  Před 2 měsíci +10

      The holster I have did at one time, but as it's worn it no longer forces it into the locked position.

    • @nateo6806
      @nateo6806 Před 2 měsíci

      Interesting. What brands do you like? I'm carrying a 1911 when hiking in a Kenai chest holster and you can flip the safety off if you're not paying attention. It's a little different than urban/EDC but I'm curious what holsters are out there that do manipulate the safety.

    • @beltfedTODDRULZ
      @beltfedTODDRULZ Před 2 měsíci +1

      Good points and let's reflect that 20 years ago G19 orG26 was a compact carry unless you wanted a 32acp.
      I almost bought a DWX Compact it was more sleek and seemed lighter than the Shadow2 Compact and after a lot of thought I realized that I don't want to spend that much money on a pistol that will invariably get a lot of holster wear and summer humidity and I'm proficient with my other carry guns and I bought a full size DWX with an SRO for range use and couldn't be happier

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 Před 2 měsíci

      I'd rather have a holster that flips the safety off upon drawing outward

  • @ZakFR
    @ZakFR Před měsícem +3

    It's weird to me that they still haven't done a 75/P-07 compact that is optics ready and has a decocker. That would be my ideal handgun. Of course you can always send a 75 or P-07 slide off to get milled which is fine but it's an extra cost.

  • @cycledogg4
    @cycledogg4 Před měsícem

    Thanks for bringing back the P-01 as your favorite EDC. You sold me on that firearm years ago and I have been carrying ever since. I thought you had stopped and changed to a different make and model.

  • @loboloco866
    @loboloco866 Před měsícem

    Your review es very valuable 👍 thanks a lot, and yes we all have to go through different trials for ccw, and we all have different opinions I personally agree 👍 with you.

  • @cvranger555
    @cvranger555 Před měsícem +13

    A few things to consider. I currently EDC the shadow 2 compact.
    1). Even though the P01 is a "fraction" of the cost of the s2c, once you Cajunize it and add the optics cut the price will be around the same.
    2) You only engage the safety in SA mode , not in half cock mode (as per CZ instructions).
    3) To decock to half cock I put the edge of my thumb in front of the firing pin. Seems safer than the pinch method. It's not a big deal once you practice it some.
    4) The reason CZ said they didn't add the firing pin block was to keep the trigger smooth. Same as the Shadow 2. Same as 1911s.
    Good video. I agree s2c isn't for everyone. Regardless CZ guns are great.

    • @nathanbrand1
      @nathanbrand1 Před měsícem

      This is the safest way unless you're a competition guy that has to be hammer down

  • @notsure1783
    @notsure1783 Před měsícem +3

    I love my CZ Shadow 2 compact and it is my go to and daily carry. It's a bit thick but so am I. As far as the worry warts go, anything can happen and whatever you use it can malfunction. Stop the CZ hate! If you hold and shoot one you will love it! But if you are a nervous nelly, Carry a gun in a box, keep the mag in your glove compartment and the bullets in the box under the seat. Do you feel safe now???

  • @bt12386
    @bt12386 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I also own a CZ P-01, but with all the factors you laid out, I landed on the HK P2000 LEM. With the double action LEM trigger, you get the safety benefits of DA/SA with the same consistent trigger pull that you’d get on a striker fired gun. The P2000 is pretty lightweight, ergonomic and there’s no safety/decocker to get in the way. It’s an extremely reliable platform, and you can find quality used ones for $600. Very underrated, I think more people would like it if they knew about it.

  • @-focusglobalinvestmentgrou5676
    @-focusglobalinvestmentgrou5676 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Awesome review. Greatly appreciated. Keep up posting awesome posts like this!

  • @jasonseiverling5354
    @jasonseiverling5354 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I understand this video is intended to highlight IF you would carry a Shadow 2 compact. I completely agree with your decision to stick with the P01 for a carry as do a lot of people.
    You absolutely had to know you were going to get called out for not even mentioning the P07.
    No hate, MAC. I watch your videos for a reason.

  • @pppoopoo7122
    @pppoopoo7122 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Says it’s cheaper yet sends it to Cajun gun works. Carried a po1 for years switched to the sc2, won’t look back. Practice basic gun safety you’ll be fine.

  • @HighCappa45
    @HighCappa45 Před měsícem

    CZ P-07 has been my main carry but with it at JagerWerks getting cut for an RMR I’m back to carrying the Glock 19. Another awesome video. Thanks!

  • @toyotek2
    @toyotek2 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video Mac

  • @user-rb9kr2tn9m
    @user-rb9kr2tn9m Před 2 měsíci +7

    Getting a P01 this week!

    • @outdoorinwithzach
      @outdoorinwithzach Před 2 měsíci +1

      You'll love it. My daily carry.

    • @user-rb9kr2tn9m
      @user-rb9kr2tn9m Před 2 měsíci

      @@outdoorinwithzach Thanks i carry the Sig P229 SAS now but its a little on the heavy side its in a 40 sw

    • @OscarDad
      @OscarDad Před měsícem

      You will LOVE LoVE LOVE the P01. ( mic drop...)

  • @iyn1911
    @iyn1911 Před 2 měsíci +3

    You’ve convinced me that Cz P01 compact is a great pistol!

    • @OscarDad
      @OscarDad Před měsícem

      It is a Fantastic gun. Accurate, reliable, ergonomic.. Range, bedside, EDC. (Mic drop ....)

  • @roblowe9283
    @roblowe9283 Před 2 měsíci

    Keep up the good work !

  • @user-gp6zq9qs8m
    @user-gp6zq9qs8m Před 2 měsíci

    Excelente explicación. Enhorabuena por el vídeo. Saludos desde España

  • @-RM-
    @-RM- Před 2 měsíci +26

    As much as I love CZs, I still believe that the Beretta PX4 Storm is the superior pistol. I carry a unmodified PX4 Storm Compact Type G in 9mm every day and it just works great for me.

    • @TheRancor53
      @TheRancor53 Před 2 měsíci

      For DA/SA an LTT CC px4 is magic, also the p229 with SRT

    • @michaelstjohn6086
      @michaelstjohn6086 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@TheRancor53 I have both 229 226 with srt, is the Px4 really that good? I have wanted a reason to get one for a long time! help a guy out lol

    • @seanmcdonald5124
      @seanmcdonald5124 Před měsícem

      Great pistol since you love the rotating barrel design. You should try a Grand Power K100 or Q100. You don't need to modify anything on their triggers.

    • @tonys.6992
      @tonys.6992 Před měsícem

      I bounce back and forth between a px4 sub-c and a g43 depending on clothing. Great little gun that gives bulldog vibes

    • @TheRancor53
      @TheRancor53 Před měsícem +2

      @@michaelstjohn6086 SRT is amazing, but the px4 ltt trigger bar reset is insanely short, doesn’t even need a match hammer like the 92 to get that nice click. SIGs are definitely better when it comes to holster and aftermarket accessories, PX4s are still orphans 😜

  • @icarusflight2396
    @icarusflight2396 Před 2 měsíci +16

    I have a CZ P-01 OMEGA, I had it optics cut for a Holosun 507k, and it is by far my favorite pistol to shoot and to carry. I have a Staccato C2 (no optics/ early model) I am far more accurate with that CZ, I'm sure mine was built on a weds. I wish they had not discontinued them! Now a base model P-01 is almost 800 bucks!

    • @cavalieroutdoors6036
      @cavalieroutdoors6036 Před 2 měsíci +5

      I bought a P01 Omega on a whim because I wanted a DA/SA pistol and Palmetto State had them on clearance for like $500. I just wanted a range toy, and ended up carrying it for over a year. That gun was seriously overlooked, it was so much better than I expected.

    • @Andrew_182
      @Andrew_182 Před 2 měsíci +2

      You can find a regular p-01 for 500-600 new online pretty easy. I believe family firearms currently has them in stock and are asking $550.

    • @Sirgromulus
      @Sirgromulus Před 2 měsíci

      Last year CZ lowered the price on most of their handguns. The MSRP of the P01 is now $649 but can sometimes be found lower. The issue is availability since CZ imports these in "batches". Buyers need to jump on them when available.

  • @ripper888888
    @ripper888888 Před měsícem

    Really appreciate the review Have been debating getting one of these for while, and the firing pin safety issue is a turn off for me as well

  • @rickberrey1642
    @rickberrey1642 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thanks! I’ve been looking to see if it was worth the added cost for a carry pistol!

  • @rcwarrior868
    @rcwarrior868 Před měsícem +6

    There's a few CZcams videos out there of guys banging the cz shadow 2 compact hammer with a mallet. They could not make the gun fire. The only time they could do that was when there was an extended firing pin. But with the stock firing pin they could not cause the round to go off. In addition, staccatos dont have a firing pin block either... so...with that being said I plan on carrying my shadow 2 compact, and probably buying a P01 as well and sending it to impact machine for red dot milling. Why not have both?

  • @InkwellFoto
    @InkwellFoto Před 2 měsíci +4

    Oh I can't wait to watch this. Because I want this as my carry gun

    • @InkwellFoto
      @InkwellFoto Před 2 měsíci +5

      Yeah, I'm still getting it as my carry gun. All his reasons not to carry it don't dissuade me.

    • @thomasfox8027
      @thomasfox8027 Před 2 měsíci +2

      I bought one and carry it every single day and am completely in love with it. To each their own.

    • @tortol4847
      @tortol4847 Před 2 měsíci +5

      His criticisms of the safety lever are valid but the others are overblown. Manual decocking isn't an issue if your IQ is above room temperature. The lack of a firing pin block is semi valid but others have tested this exact model and have shown it won't go off even if you dropped it straight onto the muzzle.

    • @JRxxx
      @JRxxx Před 2 měsíci +1

      Look up the video "Shadow 2 Compact - Drop Safe?" so long as you don't swap the firing pin with an extended one you should be good.

    • @kennethbaker5223
      @kennethbaker5223 Před 2 měsíci

      @@InkwellFoto He wasn't trying to dissuade you. He was talking about his decision.

  • @kameronbeveridge4029
    @kameronbeveridge4029 Před měsícem

    Great video 👍🏼 would love to see someone come out with a good DA/SA micro-compact!

  • @matthewdeancole
    @matthewdeancole Před měsícem +1

    The firing pin block was left out of the Shadow 2 and SPO1 models to enhance the trigger pull because they are competition models. It just carried over to the compact/carry model.

  • @davidgoodin2227
    @davidgoodin2227 Před měsícem +3

    I haven’t watched the video yet but I guarantee he whines about the lack of FPB . Why is everyone so hung up on this . As long as you don’t add a extended firing pin your good. There are a ton of videos that prove it. I hope I’m wrong and he actually has a legitimate reason to knock the shadow 2 compact.

  • @InAllSeriousness88
    @InAllSeriousness88 Před 2 měsíci +14

    Thank God someone said it. I thought about all these points when CZ brought it out. Bring it a P05. Da/SA micro compact red Dot capable. Sit back. Collect cash. If CZ won't do it someone else please make a clone

  • @itv8892
    @itv8892 Před měsícem

    Same on me, thx for the info. Critical point for me for carrying. Always depends on the use/aim.

  • @humpycove
    @humpycove Před měsícem

    Thanks for a no-nonsense assessment. FWIW, I agree across the board. While lacking immediate dot sight capability, I am in love with the HK P2000. I did a conversation to the mags at a svelte cost of under $16 each to get to 15+1 reliably. I am dead set against appendix carry for myself and can live without a dot sight for EDC. I have found my EDC that I consider perfection. Again, thanks for your no BS reviews. Shoot Strait!

  • @Atombender
    @Atombender Před 2 měsíci +80

    These videos are important because they are sending a message to the manufacturer what can/should be improved upon. CZcamsrs like MAC are basically doing modern journalist's work.

    • @whiskeyactual.
      @whiskeyactual. Před 2 měsíci +10

      Except there's nothing for cz to improve upon because this gun is not a P01, it's a Shadow 2 and it's design as intended.

    • @rossdonaghy1748
      @rossdonaghy1748 Před 2 měsíci +8

      This is the correct answer. Mac is wrong, i hope he has the humility to admit it. I have issued a challenge by way of experiment which as an American youtuber should be very easy: Make a Shadow2/base75 fire a primed case by dropping it.
      Spoiler alert: you'll never get it right.

    • @Atombender
      @Atombender Před měsícem +1

      @@whiskeyactual. So it's a shitty design?

    • @rkpagano
      @rkpagano Před 27 dny +2

      This video puts in question MAC. I think he was super premature on his analysis of it as a carry gun because this gun is absolutely phenomenal, but generally, I love his videos.

  • @321aharris
    @321aharris Před 2 měsíci +7

    On thing - yeah the P01 is $600 for the gun
    $180 for an optics cut from primary arms
    CGW trigger kit $300
    Now it’s the same price as the Shadow 2 compact. I shoot the full size in competition but will skip the compact. The complaints re: it having a safety is silly and yeah the lack of FP safety is due trigger feel. They weren’t trying to recreate the P01.

  • @anthonyhegg8348
    @anthonyhegg8348 Před 2 měsíci

    Great video and explanation as to why this is not a good carry option for you. I just purchased last week a CZ P01. Immediately took it out to the range and it has quickly become my favorite handgun. I love the DA/SA and it is lighter than I thought it would be. I am waiting for my IWB holster so that I can make this my regular EDC. The gun is fantastic and it shoots amazing. I had also purchased the CZ P07 and enjoyed the way it shot, but I had several issues with the slide locking back with a round still in the magazine. Happened four times to me in two range visits and I just did not feel comfortable keeping it. With that said, the P01 to me is a better firing gun anyway. LOVE IT!!

  • @ercvalois8656
    @ercvalois8656 Před 29 dny

    For the added safety, I install the LTT striker control device (it allows you to put your thumb on the back of the slide while holstering and prevents the striker from moving even if the trigger gets depressed) on all my EDC Glocks. It's easy to install and use. And it doesn't interfere with the operation of your pistol.

  • @inspectorman2018
    @inspectorman2018 Před 2 měsíci +3

    I wish you'd have put this video out two days ago because I literally just bought the Shadow 2 Compact lol
    No biggie because I love the platform and will still enjoy it I am sure!

    • @Militaryarmschannel
      @Militaryarmschannel  Před 2 měsíci +6

      You'll love the pistol, they're extremely nice.

    • @theredexpresss6629
      @theredexpresss6629 Před 2 měsíci +4

      its dropsafe, unless you throw it at the ground hard enough to break a sear and you had it on half cock which ive never heard happening before.

  • @yippeethreeeight
    @yippeethreeeight Před měsícem +3

    I'm with you. Give me a decocker. I don't understand why CZ, of all the gun manufacturers, is not putting optics cuts on their firearms yet. It's a PITA to have to send them out for cutting, and it adds a significant amount to the price of the gun.

  • @rodneyalaking8241
    @rodneyalaking8241 Před měsícem

    Solid logic, as always. Have you looked at the HK P30SK ? They come with various DA/SA trigger and safety options including decock only, decock with safety, ambi or not ambi, etc. But, I like the Lite Strike LEM trigger option. Gives you the same trigger pull every time with the ability to thumb the hammer when holstering the handgun.

  • @jerrydallmann7382
    @jerrydallmann7382 Před 2 měsíci +2

    As I came across this video, my Shadow 2 compact was nestled safely on my hip. It is my favorite carry gun. I also have a P-01. By the time I paid for the optic cut, Cajun trigger parts, front sight to co-witness and a porting job, I had more money in it than I paid for my Shadow 2 compact. I use a Shadow 2 in competition, so holding the hammer between my thumb and index finger to lower it is something I was already very practiced at. Being so used to the grip of the Shadow 2, I found the slightly different size and shape of the P-01 grip much less to my liking. I have the same slide-stop thumb rest on both Shadows. I carry the compact with the hammer half-cocked and no worries, as I have watched several people hammer on their hammer without breaking the the sear or getting it to drop as well as drop testing from shoulder height to a concrete floor. I have never found the skinny safety levers engaged when carrying, though I did install an extra power safety spring in both Shadows. I can respect your choices, but am happy with mine as well.

  • @tortol4847
    @tortol4847 Před 2 měsíci +25

    As someone who owns one of these here is my opinion.
    The lack of a firing pin block is a non issue for me. Carry it with the hammer down at half cock. The hammer isnt touching the firing pin and its already been tested and proven that the firing pin doesnt have the mass/inertia to ignite a primer if its dropped even in perfect drop conditions (straight down onto the muzzle).If you do manage to drop it directly on the hammer and the sear "breaks," that breakage alone would absorb a significant amount of energy leaving very little to be transferred to the firing pin.
    The safety lever concerns are valid but fixable. There is a detent but the spring is weak. You can get a stiffer spring and fix that issue. A regular cz75 safety detent spring will do. I think they made it weaker because of how low profile the lever is. You can also get a regular size safety lever. Yeah its not optimal to be "fixing" things that shouldnt need fixing but it is what it is.
    The decocking thing is overblown. Yes there is a chance for an ND but I'm not making a sandwich when i do it. The same way i have the gun pointed in a safe direction as I'm chambering it, I can safely lower the hammer with full awareness that the gun is loaded. Firmly hold the hammer and lower it. Its not brain surgery. Unless you have the finger strength of a toddler you have little to worry about.

    • @eindride1268
      @eindride1268 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Don't forget to buy some trigger return springs (the only reason I haven't bought a hammer fire Cz)

    • @DinoNucci
      @DinoNucci Před 2 měsíci +3

      Wrong

    • @southtownsjoe32
      @southtownsjoe32 Před 2 měsíci +4

      you can convince yourself of anything, that's fine.....
      way to much fumbling, I'll pass, there are much better choices, good luck!

    • @DinoNucci
      @DinoNucci Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@southtownsjoe32 correct

    • @fastcalendar
      @fastcalendar Před 2 měsíci +4

      Still, having to carefully go from full to half cock EVERY time you first chamber a round to carry is such a massive invitation for complacency and an eventual mistake. I agree the other concerns are negligible or likely even impossible, but having a mechanical decocker eliminates hundreds if not thousands of improbable dice rolls

  • @bigshoe84
    @bigshoe84 Před 2 měsíci +18

    I was having trouble seeing why a compact competition gun made any sense. If competing just go full size, if concealed carrying just get the P01 for half the price. Glad this video addressed this as I kind of thought I was the only one.

    • @weezem
      @weezem Před měsícem

      Nothing wrong with concealing this gun. It's geared towards carrying.

    • @bigshoe84
      @bigshoe84 Před měsícem

      @@weezem That’s fine if you want to do it, I just wouldn’t.

    • @rkpagano
      @rkpagano Před 27 dny

      I love the P0 one and the shadow two compact. However, performance wise there is just no comparison only and almost as good realization.

  • @wisco_guy
    @wisco_guy Před 2 měsíci +1

    Thank you MAC for sharing your concealed-carry journey with us! Being that I also wear gloves living in the Midwest and ride motorcycles has me reconsidering my options as well.

  • @jayphillips368
    @jayphillips368 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Currently carrying a Staccato C2. Looking at maybe moving to a DA/SA gun. Narrowed it down to a Shadow 2 Compact or a Langdon PX4 Compact Carry. Went with the latter for the exact reasons you mentioned, primarily that there is no decock lever...That is insane in a carry gun.

  • @rickoshea8138
    @rickoshea8138 Před 2 měsíci +10

    MAC; The 1911 has an inertial firing pin; meaning the pin is shorter than its channel. So, hammer down all the way does not make the firing pin protrude past the breechface. If the Shadow compact V2 has an inertial firing pin, then the concern about having the hammer down resting on the firing pin goes away, completely.
    Check the CZ to see if it has an inertial firing pin. If it does not, then your concerns are valid.

    • @theredexpresss6629
      @theredexpresss6629 Před 2 měsíci +3

      it does, there are videos of people smacking them with hammers and nothing happens, internet rumor strikes again.

    • @rickoshea8138
      @rickoshea8138 Před měsícem +1

      @@theredexpresss6629 Then MAC is tilting at windmills.

    • @rkpagano
      @rkpagano Před 27 dny

      Hey CZcams gun tubers. Please for God sake base your opinions off your own testing and not Internet lore. It’s amazing how many of the tubers are saying the same thing about this pistol